Bottom-Tier Character Tomozaki (light novel)
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| Ngl I really like the setup for this anime. The makeover of Tomozaki from zero to hero, so to speak, seems very interesting. Initial impressions, the anime seems a bit similar to Yahari (with the riajuu and the social hierarchies), with a bit of Welcome to the NHK (with MC's initial bleak outlook on Life) and High Score Girl (with the girl/boy gaming dynamic). Tomozaki, for being so apprehensive about the 'shitty game' called Life, is surprisingly fast on the uptake in attempting to give Life a try. As far as the FMC, I'm a bit indifferent at this point. She seems okay, but her personality isn't my favourite, at least her 'public/at school persona', especially when she was looking down on MC during their meetup. However, she does seem to have two different personas which I do find promising... one which she uses when in school and another when she's a gamer— we see this, when she first meets Tomozaki. FMC also seems awfully gungho about helping MC despite not getting much in return. But I'm guessing her reasoning is that she doesn't want Nanashi, whom she respects, to be a zero-effort loser.   Overall, looking forward to how this all plays out. For sure, the blue-haired girl seems like she'll be an important character, as well as the grey-haired girl who sits by the window. Unsure if this will turn into a harem type situation, but I can definitely see those girls being candidates for Tomozaki's 'girlfriend goal' along with Aoi Hinami. Looking forward to next episode! |
herricklukJan 8, 2021 6:25 PM
Starhammer said: And yet life itself has a nasty habit of throwing coincidences like these out a lot of the time It really doesn't. The magnitude is outrageous. We're talking about seeking out a single person in a game as popular as Smash Brothers and they just happen to be the same age, go to the same school and it's someone you already know. It would be a stretch if it were a game where you joined a clan with 100 people in it and out of all of them, you found out 1 went to the same school and it was someone you didn't know but this is just an impossibility. |
| How to train your incel to be a normie ep 1 with Oregairu ended i guess i'll take whatever can take that mantle now lol,was mainly watching because the char designs are based of FLY but they don't like like their work that much unlike The World in Colors from 2018 writing being super gamer talk was kinda awful and their views on life could be considered laughable but whatevas i'll see where this one goes kinda says a lot when you see most of the community feel personally attacked by this or it's so relatable lol OP? was fun though |
katsu044Jan 8, 2021 6:40 PM
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SilentCaay said: Sorry to disagree,but in my experience it's not impossible,just improbable.Starhammer said: And yet life itself has a nasty habit of throwing coincidences like these out a lot of the time It really doesn't. The magnitude is outrageous. We're talking about seeking out a single person in a game as popular as Smash Brothers and they just happen to be the same age, go to the same school and it's someone you already know. It would be a stretch if it were a game where you joined a clan with 100 people in it and out of all of them, you found out 1 went to the same school and it was someone you didn't know but this is just an impossibility. For example,quite a few yrs ago,I pulled into a petrol station in my home town to fuel.Just standing there,putting petrol in,when the man across from me said my name,to which I replied "yes,thats me". Turned out he was an ex squaddie,like me,that had been stationed with me in Germany about 10 yrs before that,last time I'd seen him was when I got posted out.He was just putting petrol in as he passed through on his way to his parents.He lived over 200 miles away,his parents over 100 miles beyond me,so in that 300 miles,he stopped to put petrol in his car,and who's standing opposite him but an old squaddie mate he hadn't seen in nearly a decade. What are the odds on that? - A hundred to one - A million to one? - A trillion to one? Theres a Terry Pratchett book,Equal Rites,that has a quote in it that I'm fond of "Million-to-one chances...crop up nine times out of ten" I wouldn't say I believe it,but I don't think its wrong either. Btw,I'm not railing on you or anything,this is just my opinion,honestly I was thinking of checking out your youtube channel :),but I don't know whether you'd want an old,grumpy git like me watching your vids :) |
StarhammerJan 8, 2021 7:33 PM
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LieutenantLame said: Halfway through the first episode, and to be honest, I cannot take it seriously when they say "normie" unironically. I wonder what the actual Japanese script is (is there a word for normie in japanese?), hoping its just a translator thing. Honestly seems a little hard to watch right now bc of incel vibes, hanging on to see if MC has a good redemption arc. Yes. I haven't seen the first episode yet (although I have read the novel), and if I'm not mistaken, when they use the word "normie" they do it to translate the term "riajuu", which is the Japanese equivalent of normie. Usually used by otakus, to refer to people with successful lives. |
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| I liked it a lot, and loved the OP at the end of the episode. Based on this first episode, I’m certain I’ll like this more as it progresses! |
| The problem I had is the dialogues. I sorta playing with my phone when these characters were talking and I'm still grab the context in the whole episode. |
| I'm too weird to live but much too rare to die. |
SilentCaay said: Do these authors not understand how many thousands of people play a game? It's dumb. Not only is she popular girl, she's 2nd best in Japan on a fighting game. She's a freak of nature that could easily be a top professional gamer where 99% of the professionals are male. About as realistic as your typical show where the 5 top girls at school have no boy friends and throw themselves at some loser whose nose bleeds and feints at the thought of a kiss. |
| The male protagonist is just immature, holding a pessimistic attitude towards life, and resolving the things that can't be done by venting. He was stimulated by the female protagonist's previous words. Still, it should always be basic for people to tidy up their appearance and leave a good impression on those who are not familiar with them. Later, he was dismissed and pointed out his shortcomings tactfully. Then he became angry and immediately began to speak loudly on the crowded streets: "It is not me that is wrong, but the world! It was born this way and the world is unfair! I hate you all, Riajuu!" This kind of otaku who has not made a decent effort has no right to complain. If you don’t learn well, you should study hard. If you have poor physical fitness, unless you have heart disease or other congenital physical defects, you can solve it by doing more exercise. If you don't have a girlfriend and want a girlfriend, then take the initiative to expand your social circle, cultivate your own strengths, and let others think that you are a fairly interesting person when they know you. Doing nothing like this, just blindly looking at others' excellence, complaining about others, is simply like the howling of a shit. Listening to it makes people sick! |
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| Some people said that is similar to oregairu, but thb this is a LOT better that oregairu. But still mediocre |
LieutenantLame said: Halfway through the first episode, and to be honest, I cannot take it seriously when they say "normie" unironically. I wonder what the actual Japanese script is (is there a word for normie in japanese?), hoping its just a translator thing. Honestly seems a little hard to watch right now bc of incel vibes, hanging on to see if MC has a good redemption arc. The original word is riajuu. I don't know why people saying he's an incel. I mean, if he's an incel, he'd be pretty mysogynistic, but in the LN, when he's going to meet No Name for the first time and read the message "I'm wearing a white and blue shirt and a black skirt" he immediately thought: "A girl. Well, I guess that's possible. I assumed it was a guy, but there is no reason for it not to be a girl"  ButtSlapper said: very cringey. I guess they are living in a world where they can claim themselves pro gamers while something as E sport tournaments are not existed. It's not explained in the beginning, but Tomozaki isn't a pro-gamer, he's only the best on online rank. E sport tournaments and local tournaments exist. Pro-Atafami players exist. |
| Only one word, "meh" The concept is kinda promising. If it's executed properly, I think the show can be very compelling. But from my impressions of the first episode, that doesn't seem to be the case. Tomozaki's personality is honestly very dislikeable and feels like a really horrible Hachiman rip-off. In Hachiman's case, it was made understandable from the start why he's so pessimistic and antisocial. However, in case of Tomozaki, it seems as if he has been like this from his childhood and hasn't even tried once to make his life better, which makes it extremely hard to find him relatable. This issue can be amended later, though, just by exploring his past and showing why he has turned out this way. Also, Shuuji, who seems like a way worse version of Hayama, is very, very annoying. Well, it's only the first episode, so I'm probably being a bit too harsh. But the flaws in it were very glaring and inescapable. I hope they will be fixed later on. |
IrrelevantGuyJan 9, 2021 12:25 AM
Glordit said: This felt like GAMERS x 3D Kanojo: Real Girl with Harem elements. Which is a good thing. Yep totally feels the same. Though there's no comedy in this. |
When someone asks me why I like anime, I'd say Just Because. |
| The MC is so dull, it is almost impossible to watch |
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IrrelevantGuy said: Only one word, "meh" The concept is kinda promising. If it's executed properly, I think the show can be very compelling. But from my impressions of the first episode, that doesn't seem to be the case. Tomozaki's personality is honestly very dislikeable and feels like a really horrible Hachiman rip-off. In Hachiman's case, it was made understandable from the start why he's so pessimistic and antisocial. However, in case of Tomozaki, it seems as if he has been like this from his childhood and hasn't even tried once to make his life better, which makes it extremely hard to find him relatable. This issue can be amended later, though, just by exploring his past and showing why he has turned out this way. Also, Shuuji, who seems like a way worse version of Hayama, is very, very annoying. Well, it's only the first episode, so I'm probably being a bit too harsh. But the flaws in it were very glaring and inescapable. I hope they will be fixed later on. I have a low opinion of the male protagonist. He considers himself a weak role as if God has treated him badly. This is also too negative. So how can this have anything to do with "life is a shit game"? Annoying. From the introduction, We can know it is about the growth of an autistic teenager. I also understand his low starting point, but I still feel very angry and indisputable. I hope he can grow up later. The words of the heroine don't seem to be a big deal. Although it is estimated that people would be beaten if they interfered so much in reality, no one would want to interfere with those who have such thoughts, behaviors, and attitudes. |
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| Why this show looks so bad has absolutely nothing to do with the likelihood of classmates being the top two players of a game, the MCs being completely different people, or the fact that the male MC is a social outcast who has given up on leading a normal life; in fact, details like strange coincidences, clashing personalities and/or down-and-out characters tend to make a story MORE interesting, not less. No, there are two reasons why this show is probably going to suck ass: 1) The MCs are unlikeable. 2) The writing is atrocious. Within seconds of the MCs "meeting" one another, I had grown to despise both of them: He is a pathetic incel; and she is an egotistical bitch. Unsavory characters make it difficult enough to invest in a story, but to already no reason to root for either of thee jackasses... Having shitty people as MCs would not be so much of a problem is the writing was good... but it's not. For example, there is just no way this dollar-store Hachiman knows as little about social interactions as Sheldon Cooper, yet he is somehow shocked by a demonstration that would barely engage a toddler. Also, as Super Bitch is written, she would not have been so naive as to believe the only person in the entire world better than her in a video game would be a "well-adjusted" overachiever as well. Oh, and let us not forget their reactions to one another during their fateful meeting: While he was genuinely intrigued by the shocking development, she already thought his life was so worthless that her respect for him as a gamer was immediately discarded upon learning his identity, giving her no believable motivation to continue interacting with him. You can save bad characters with a good story, and you can even save a bad story with good characters, but nothing can save a bad story with bad characters... unless they all die in an entertaining fashion. Shit, perhaps they should have made this a slasher flick from the start! |
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| Nice episode. I'm looking forward to the second one. I like slice of life's with gamer/otaku content, and this anime fits very well. |
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AgehaYoru said: Revvie-chan said: As somebody who practically lives and thinks like the protag, I... can't even relate. What is this bullshit? A girl who looks cute with makeups bs me about me giving up my shitty life of grief and disappointment? Then leave her! why bother talking to her? She has put a lot of efforts to win at both her favorite game and her "real life" game? Okay respectable. Don't really care about the latter part, tho. Let's talk about this favorite game thingy... or not talk at all! (Tho in the first place, if Tomozaki is actually somebody who despise this game called "real life", he would have left Hinami then and there. Anyone who has truly abandoned all hopes regarding real life wouldn't even care about getting insulted irl.) I'm fine if you wanna copy char and copy plot. I'm not fine if you can't explain to me why such char develop that way, why such plot happens that way. Such a pity, since the straightforward lining of the monologue is actually good. Time to drop. That's what you get it wrong. His original character is just he hates to lose as much as Hinami does. Also, I'm not agree at this part "Anyone who has truly abandoned all hopes regarding real life wouldn't even care about getting insulted irl." If a teenage guy has truly abandoned all hopes, he wouldn't have come to school and become a Hikikomori. But Tomozaki still attend school despite having zero friends, he's not that desperate yet, meaning that he's not beyond saving. What he needed is just the right push and Hinami's insult is a perfect trigger, because that comes from someone he acknowledges. Not just a random girl. He saw in Hinami's room that she has put a lot of practice to beat him in the game, and her opinion is worth to listen to. To me, you sound so bitter because Tomozaki changes his mind and think "hey, maybe this game of life is worth to give a shot". I don't know why such a person like you develops and thinks like that. I'm glad Tomozaki actually has a good personality and not just some bitter loser who will just run away from problem. That'd make the story very boring. Probably I am bitter, yeah. Bcs this thing seems to try to attract viewers by trying to make the MC "relatable" to a specific target viewers (such as myself), but I can't relate myself to the choices he makes. Maybe it is true that Tomozaki should be seen as the kind of char you mentioned, yeah. Still gets dropped, anyway. |
| That was a good episode, it has potential. Also relatable for me at some points. Both characters has points in their views, but I don't think either of them are fully correct in their views. If your really not satisfied with yourself, then work to improve yourself instead of blaming others or society, even though society really do be shitty most of the time. So far, the main characters hasn't really appealed to me yet but, I think it's going to be a good show. |
sKyBlazer08Jan 9, 2021 8:03 AM
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| This could either be another anime that i would enjoy for guilty pleasure or one that i would loathe big time for its cringiness but for now i think it's the latter one. The MC's speech was so damn cringy and is exaggerated a lot, and for the main girl which i hope would be at least bearable, but turned out to be absolutely shit. The art is great and the concept is fine, but the writing is terrible. I saw more girls on the ED i hope their character make the show bearable to watch. I have many flawed characters that i like, but this show's MCs make worst out of it. |
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| I'm sorry but i legit cringed the entirety of the episode. It was a bit too dramatic imo. Hope it tones down a bit. |
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| This definitely has the potential to be a really good anime with pretty good story writing and character development, Alot of potential for this one indeed though maybe found annoying for people i only see this as a great start to an anime much like oregairu |
| A pretty shaky first half in my opinion; Tomozaki was presented as the cliche jaded teen and Aoi didn't seem very likable. BUT the second half was much more promising! I like the idea of them viewing life as a game and Aoi putting Tomozaki through the 'game tutorial'. Looking forward to seeing how Tomozaki develops each week! As a side note; don't Tomo & Aoi have the same username, just in different languages? I guess it's to symbolize that they're two sides of the same coin. |
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| So, Tomozaki's game console was basically a parody of a Nintendo Switch and Tackfam , looks more like a parody of either Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat or Tekken ... So, NONAME is actually the school's prefect student who has brains, brawn, spunk, character, privilege and a tech know how name Aoi......and the whom she had an eyeball Nanashi is the loser/otaku/game god Tomozaki...looks like another Kanojo except this looks more like a prefect girl teaching a game otaku/loser how to change his manner of thinking, that life is garbage and start to think that life should be enjoyed.....looks intresting... |
| I can relate to Tomozaki so much with the lack of social skills. Good episode 1, let's see how the story develops! |
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| There are some good aspects of this series (art, humor) and some annoying, but overall it looks like a worthwhile time sink. |
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