| Not exactly potholes but a lot of events that mattered to me in ReZero are contrived. But SAO has probably the worst of them especially in the last episodes of the latest season where a bunch of stuff are just thrown in out of nowhere. |
LordTuchankaNov 7, 2020 4:23 PM
| the whole thing with the poisoned candy in monster bugged me a lot when i first watched the show. |
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| goku at 12 has no problem killing red ribbon soldiers or king piccolo, but in dbz he lets vegeta, frieza and others off because he got bored or wants to fight him again etc. great way to destroy a character. |
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SupaScoopa said: the whole thing with the poisoned candy in monster bugged me a lot when i first watched the show. Exactly, did we ever find out how or when he poisoned the candy? its sad that we still don't know... |
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ryunogawa said: Personally I don't take notice of them unless they slap me right in the face, but I'm sure some have popped up in the anime I've seen, and I'm sure I'm forgetting some I actually have noticed. I don't think any could ruin an anime for me though, I'm able to deal with plot holes in the live action shows I watch. None have really ruined an anime for me, but I score them lower if something is out of character, I just ask why is x doing y if it doesn't make sense or I think that no sane person would do that, but most of the time I can just gloss over.... Talking about live action, GoT got completely ruined for me after last season, I think it's the only show that really stand up like for a major "plot" hole that made everything else invalid and took the enjoyment of the show away, like up to season 8 I could easily rewatch the whole series, now I rather watch all shows that have a score 5 or lower here in MAL. |
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Lord_Tachanka21 said: Not exactly potholes but a lot of events that mattered to me in ReZero are contrived. But SAO has probably the worst of them especially in the last episodes of the latest season where a bunch of stuff are just thrown in out of nowhere. Eh???? Tell me what makes Re:Zero contrived? I see nothing contrived about Re:Zero. I don’t really understand your taste at all. Or maybe, I should say, “May I help you, sir?” |
HanashiD4Nov 8, 2020 12:21 AM
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| Luffy vs Katakuri fight. After that insufferable garbage I've dropped One Piece for good, although I've already watched 908 episodes. |
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| Well, i don't really have any problem with re zero anime as i have read the webnovel version. The biggest plot hole for me is probably how character in Kimi no Nawa (Your Name) movie never see the dates they are in even when opening their phone n making diary. And yes it totally ruins my immersion n make me give the anime score 1. (I don't buy the dream explanation bs) |
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Npandth said: Kenzolo-folk said: Exactly, did we ever find out how or when he poisoned the candy? its sad that we still don't know... If its any consolation, he was in a hospital full of chemicals and medicine that can be lethal in certain amounts. Its not that far fetched that a small child, especially one as crafty as Johan, could get his hands on some. This is purely speculation though and I could easily be wrong. Thats also can be true. What still riddles me the most is how he could predict that those two specific gentleman would eat the candy. But i guess, coming from Johan it wouldnt be hard to believe he could predict and perfectly execute something like that. |
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Nemo_Niemand said: Luffy vs Katakuri fight. After that insufferable garbage I've dropped One Piece for good, although I've already watched 908 episodes. The level of protagonism of that fight was unbelievable, even for shounen patterns. |
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| It's more about plot-convenience, but Death Parade was the worst at this. No idea how can people possibly take this stupid anime seriously. |
HanashiD4 said: Lord_Tachanka21 said: Not exactly potholes but a lot of events that mattered to me in ReZero are contrived. But SAO has probably the worst of them especially in the last episodes of the latest season where a bunch of stuff are just thrown in out of nowhere. Eh???? Tell me what makes Re:Zero contrived? I see nothing contrived about Re:Zero. I don’t really understand your taste at all. Or maybe, I should say, “May I help you, sir?” One thing is Subaru's obsession to Emilia, and his lack of common sense and awareness when it comes to decision making to at least avoid death when he's supposed to be traumatized appeared very inconsistent to me. I may be wrong but if he was written in a way that he has PTSD, then it doesn't look like PTSD at all, clinically. |
Lord_Tachanka21 said: HanashiD4 said: Eh???? Tell me what makes Re:Zero contrived? I see nothing contrived about Re:Zero. I don’t really understand your taste at all. Or maybe, I should say, “May I help you, sir?” One thing is Subaru's obsession to Emilia, and his lack of common sense and awareness when it comes to decision making to at least avoid death when he's supposed to be traumatized appeared very inconsistent to me. I may be wrong but if he was written in a way that he has PTSD, then it doesn't look like PTSD at all, clinically. I don't see that as inconsistent, you may not buy it, but Emilia was the first person who helped him, she was also the first person to comfort him, the first one he opened himself to. About not avoid his own death, have you watched this second season? All of that might not be enough for you, but they're not inconsistent. |
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| @Nefelupitou I admit I worded it poorly, but I was responding to his question on what was contrived; and yes, I don't buy the reason for him to be obsessed and undergo very painful experiences is just because of his first impressions with Emilia and company. Anyway, my issue regarding Subaru's psychology still stands though. But if what you're trying to say that the PTSD isn't caused by his own deaths then I can agree with you. People with this mental illness will always be disturbed by the source of trauma regardless if it isn't there (through random flashbacks, or just by mentioning will bother them really hard). Their subconscious makes them scared, stunned, and prevents them from facing anything resembling the cause. Those are very important information to diagnose someone with PTSD. But in the anime, Subaru appears mostly to be unaware that he got traumatised previously so he now faces the problem with confidence and sometimes still do things in reckless ways, which gets him killed again. With that said, I'd like to clarify that clinically, his actions and mental state are conflicting to a diagnosis of PTSD caused by his deaths if the anime really wanted to imply he has that in the first place. @WNchad Those are some points I did fail to mention and thanks for clearing them up. However, I did try to read the light novels (LN 1 and 13-14) but I just couldn't get through the prose at all. I might read them again in the future when the series is finished or the translation has improved. |
LordTuchankaNov 8, 2020 5:48 PM
Nemo_Niemand said: Luffy vs Katakuri fight. After that insufferable garbage I've dropped One Piece for good, although I've already watched 908 episodes. Wait there were plot holes in that fight? |
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Lord_Tachanka21 said: HanashiD4 said: Eh???? Tell me what makes Re:Zero contrived? I see nothing contrived about Re:Zero. I don’t really understand your taste at all. Or maybe, I should say, “May I help you, sir?” One thing is Subaru's obsession to Emilia, and his lack of common sense and awareness when it comes to decision making to at least avoid death when he's supposed to be traumatized appeared very inconsistent to me. I may be wrong but if he was written in a way that he has PTSD, then it doesn't look like PTSD at all, clinically. If Subaru's obsession to Emilia seems wrong to you, then I think the definition of "character flaws" hasn't been familiarized in your perspective. Toxicity is what clouded Subaru for taking his stupid ideals and acting with it to its very extent. Specifically, this "simping" mentality is truly the indication of how Subaru had obsessed Emilia due to his inexperienced affection. In the prologue scene (where he was in the convenience store), you can see that he's reading the romance manga to the point that he also has the knowledge of how most romance stories are written in a way for the clarification of romantic relationship. Not just that, he also saw two couples passing by the outside of convenience store, giving himself a sigh of frustration. Those details, to me, are the clear indication that he indeed has the hunger for romantic validation and insecurity within himself. Additionally, in the Episode 4 of Season 2, he clearly was a successful student during his elementary school with his enthusiastic-looking aura to flex his achievement for his self-acknowledgment. He had thought of himself that he had received so much respect and pride at the same time, but in reality, most kids around him seem to feel disgusted by his self-conceit. In reference, that's also the same scenario when he greeted many classmates/schoolmates alike in an improper way to validate his reputation as a "successful" student. When things go way far from his expectation, he realizes that how he had done was wrong. That was the reason for his constant absence in his school (AKA NEET-Phase). Hence, he obsessed towards Emilia because of his hunger of validation and actual experiential relationship. Also, to your "PTSD" stance, that to me is what I will give your point a huge disagreement. If you really pay attention to how he acts in the very first episode, . In relation to its suicidal condition, the first behavioral process that most suicidal person had is the staggering reaction, which is still inaccurate, but the majority of people who had those experience shares the similar extent. Suicidal thoughts and feelings are complicated with no given accuracy, which is how most suicidal people asserted themselves to be complicated. Thus, my point here in regards to his PTSD... you may be right in your perspective, but to me, it sounds wrong at all. Every human being is inconsistent creatures with limited thought process, and we, as a human being, don't understand each other in the first place until sharing our thoughts to each other is its self-explanatory to how the purpose of sharing it can also benefit each other to build up the understanding of different sides of perspective. That's also why some suicidal people failed to comprehend their self-reconsideration. If they continuously kept their thoughts within themselves without venting out towards a certain empathetic one, that will also cause self-isolation which is also one of the risk factor for suicide. Regarding Subaru's perspective, I think he has experienced the first stage of PTSD when he receives those kind of insufferable deeds in a greater extent. It shares also the same methods of how you conquered your fear. You get scared at first, but in many attempts, you will also build up more experiences if you keep practicing it. Hence, that's how and why you get used to it. From amateur to professional level, the system of Subaru's development is based on his own accustomation. Also, if you think PTSD is inconsistent towards Subaru, then what's the point of being "getting used to it" mean to you? If you try cutting your own throat, will you feel hesitated or not? If you try jumping off the cliff with the safety rope around your waist as many times as you can, will you feel accustomed to it? I think the matter of consistency is just your subjective matter, but Subaru's actions, can also reflect towards me because I also experienced the same as he did in terms of obsession towards my romantic partner who still ended up being just my own crush. |
HanashiD4Nov 8, 2020 8:03 PM
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| At Subaru's obsession: I think the matter of consistency is just your subjective matter, but Subaru's actions, can also reflect towards me because I also experienced the same as he did in terms of obsession towards my romantic partner who still ended up being just my own crush. All what you said definitely feels contrived for something a person should be doing given his past. It may be an acceptable reason to you, but given the gravity of the situation especially one that deals with trauma and death, it isn't for me. At Subaru's mental health: When he tries to jump off the cliff, but he can't do it, that... to me is very consistent Being scared of dying is a normal human reaction. If he jumps off because he's tired in everything then I'm convinced he's suffering a bad case of depression which can be attributed to the trauma. But if he can fight Elsa, fight the whale, fight Betelguese and feel like he's not conflicted to the experience prior and not disturbed by it even after the fight, then that is not the source of PTSD at all if he has one. He can be scared in some instances, then brave in the next. People with PTSD are always consistent, Subaru appears to be not. In relation to its suicidal condition, the first behavioural process that most suicidal person had is the staggering reaction, which is still inaccurate, but the majority of people who had those experience shares the similar extent. Suicidal thoughts and feelings are complicated with no given accuracy, which is how most suicidal people asserted themselves to be complicated. You say in the first sentence that the majority of people show a staggering reaction but then in the next you claim there is no given accuracy and suicide is complicated. So which of these are what you believe in then? Why do you say suicide is hard to understand but then make a claim as if you know more? What is your basis? Also, even though suicidal thoughts are complicated, your arguments in the next sentences are no-way related to the issue at hand. But to give it more context: Subaru is always happy when everyone's happy, clinically depressed people aren't necessarily so. If what you mean as "staggered" is to cower in fear and reluctantly face at the source of trauma, then that is very accurate for PTSD. Every human being is inconsistent creatures with limited thought process, and we, as a human being, don't understand each other in the first place until sharing our thoughts to each other is its self-explanatory to how the purpose of sharing it can also benefit each other to build up the understanding of different sides of perspective. Characters are not accurate representations of human beings, they are constructs. If you want to characterise a trait, then show it in a convincing manner. There is a criteria to be followed if you want to prove someone has PTSD. Subaru's actions and mental state are contradictory in the most important things as I mentioned in my previous comment. Compare him to someone like Ellie in TLOU, Kyle from American Sniper, or even Captain Miller from Saving Private Ryan, all of which are well-researched and unarguably accurate representations of the disease. To experience trauma doesn't mean you have PTSD right away. To show PTSD-like symptoms at one point in your life doesn't necessarily mean you have one. There's just a wide range of diseases from depressive and manic disorders to schizophrenia that can be caused by trauma and has overlapping signs and symptoms to PTSD. There's something I can agree with you though: Regarding Subaru's perspective, I think he has experienced the first stage of PTSD when he receives those kind of insufferable deeds in a greater extent. He is the perfect candidate for PTSD if what you mean as the first stage is to experience trauma. Yet again, his mental state and actions just appeared conflicting like what I said above. He has other mental illnesses that the show hasn't taken advantage of yet. Also, if you think PTSD is inconsistent towards Subaru, then what's the point of being "getting used to it" mean to you? If you try cutting your own throat, will you feel hesitated or not? If you try jumping off the cliff with the safety rope around your waist as many times as you can, will you feel accustomed to it? It is very unlikely you will get over it but the sure thing is you should be bothered by the trauma so much it interferes with everyday life. So based on your example; (A) someone cuts my own throat and I live miraculously. If I have PTSD, then based on the criteria (DSM-5) possible signs would be: (B) Getting scared to anything that resembles something sharp, (C) being reminded by the experience from time to time even in joyful moments, (G) I can also be very depressed to the point I'd just want to hide and avoid people, or if I want to fight, just want to kill everyone in the way causing the trauma because (D) it has been bothering me so much. These are just the basics but traits that must be shown consistently for a long time. Otherwise, I may have a different disease. Counselling isn't just limited to talking to someone who may be empathic but comprises of psycho-social treatment strategies which take a lot of effort and time to bring in results. Subaru is exactly the opposite, and is inconsistent because like you said he got used to it and fast. By the way, willingly facing your fears through experience isn't the same as attributing it to PTSD, so bungee jumping isn't really a good example. |
LordTuchankaNov 9, 2020 12:16 AM
| I dunno, I can't really even think of many plot holes in anime (at least big ones), most of the complaints about this sort of thing is actually plot convenience, which can definitely eye rolling... Virgin Ichigo drawing with Chad Zaraki was a big plot convenience I disliked. |
Lord_Tachanka21 said: At Subaru's obsession: I think the matter of consistency is just your subjective matter, but Subaru's actions, can also reflect towards me because I also experienced the same as he did in terms of obsession towards my romantic partner who still ended up being just my own crush. All what you said definitely feels contrived for something a person should be doing given his past. It may be an acceptable reason to you, but given the gravity of the situation especially one that deals with trauma and death, it isn't for me. At Subaru's mental health: When he tries to jump off the cliff, but he can't do it, that... to me is very consistent Being scared of dying is a normal human reaction. If he jumps off because he's tired in everything then I'm convinced he's suffering a bad case of depression which can be attributed to the trauma. But if he can fight Elsa, fight the whale, fight Betelguese and feel like he's not conflicted to the experience prior and not disturbed by it even after the fight, then that is not the source of PTSD at all if he has one. He can be scared in some instances, then brave in the next. People with PTSD are always consistent, Subaru appears to be not. In relation to its suicidal condition, the first behavioural process that most suicidal person had is the staggering reaction, which is still inaccurate, but the majority of people who had those experience shares the similar extent. Suicidal thoughts and feelings are complicated with no given accuracy, which is how most suicidal people asserted themselves to be complicated. You say in the first sentence that the majority of people show a staggering reaction but then in the next you claim there is no given accuracy and suicide is complicated. So which of these are what you believe in then? Why do you say suicide is hard to understand but then make a claim as if you know more? What is your basis? Also, even though suicidal thoughts are complicated, your arguments in the next sentences are no-way related to the issue at hand. But to give it more context: Subaru is always happy when everyone's happy, clinically depressed people aren't necessarily so. If what you mean as "staggered" is to cower in fear and reluctantly face at the source of trauma, then that is very accurate for PTSD. Every human being is inconsistent creatures with limited thought process, and we, as a human being, don't understand each other in the first place until sharing our thoughts to each other is its self-explanatory to how the purpose of sharing it can also benefit each other to build up the understanding of different sides of perspective. Characters are not accurate representations of human beings, they are constructs. If you want to characterise a trait, then show it in a convincing manner. There is a criteria to be followed if you want to prove someone has PTSD. Subaru's actions and mental state are contradictory in the most important things as I mentioned in my previous comment. Compare him to someone like Ellie in TLOU, Kyle from American Sniper, or even Captain Miller from Saving Private Ryan, all of which are well-researched and unarguably accurate representations of the disease. To experience trauma doesn't mean you have PTSD right away. To show PTSD-like symptoms at one point in your life doesn't necessarily mean you have one. There's just a wide range of diseases from depressive and manic disorders to schizophrenia that can be caused by trauma and has overlapping signs and symptoms to PTSD. There's something I can agree with you though: Regarding Subaru's perspective, I think he has experienced the first stage of PTSD when he receives those kind of insufferable deeds in a greater extent. He is the perfect candidate for PTSD if what you mean as the first stage is to experience trauma. Yet again, his mental state and actions just appeared conflicting like what I said above. He has other mental illnesses that the show hasn't taken advantage of yet. Also, if you think PTSD is inconsistent towards Subaru, then what's the point of being "getting used to it" mean to you? If you try cutting your own throat, will you feel hesitated or not? If you try jumping off the cliff with the safety rope around your waist as many times as you can, will you feel accustomed to it? It is very unlikely you will get over it but the sure thing is you should be bothered by the trauma so much it interferes with everyday life. So based on your example; (A) someone cuts my own throat and I live miraculously. If I have PTSD, then based on the criteria (DSM-5) possible signs would be: (B) Getting scared to anything that resembles something sharp, (C) being reminded by the experience from time to time even in joyful moments, (G) I can also be very depressed to the point I'd just want to hide and avoid people, or if I want to fight, just want to kill everyone in the way causing the trauma because (D) it has been bothering me so much. These are just the basics but traits that must be shown consistently for a long time. Otherwise, I may have a different disease. Counselling isn't just limited to talking to someone who may be empathic but comprises of psycho-social treatment strategies which take a lot of effort and time to bring in results. Subaru is exactly the opposite, and is inconsistent because like you said he got used to it and fast. By the way, willingly facing your fears through experience isn't the same as attributing it to PTSD, so bungee jumping isn't really a good example. At people with PTSD are ALWAYS being "consistent": This is untrue at all. Consistency is the exact OPPOSITE towards someone who has conditioned with PTSD. Instead, being consistent is a way of treatment AGAINST PTSD according to HelpGuide. If your thoughts have become convoluted, then of course, your thought process will become inconsistent due to the effect of mixing between negative thoughts and feelings that will shear your mentality into its case of derealization, becoming it to be in clouded state. It is a matter of derealization within your mind which complicates and conflicts between your subconsciousness and unconsciousness regarding between (his) feelings and thoughts. Episode 15 in S1 represents that as well. PTSD doesn't develop in a sudden extent, but it develops when there was too much exposure on Subaru's deathly experiences in a gradual extent, which is why you mostly find Subaru having some vomiting moment (which is an external reaction) due to surreal disgust. At "If what you mean as "staggered" is to cower in fear and reluctantly face at the source of trauma, then that is very accurate for PTSD.": That's an absolute point that I'm trying to convey. Your explanation before this particular premise is considered to be an understatement. But again, people with suicidal thoughts have convoluted thought process because of the process of derealization which causes a lot of misinterpretation within your mind since most negative feelings have become overwhelming. The act of staggering is an expressive feedback which corresponds Subaru to have second thoughts of wake-up call from choosing suicide. At " Subaru is exactly the opposite, and is inconsistent because like you said he got used to it and fast": Have you forgot the Episode 8 in S1 where he got vomited in the bathroom sink? Yes, that particular scene encapsulates the gradual process of undergoing derealization in external reaction due to his clouded mindset. However, thanks to Emilia being empathetic yet (still misunderstanding about how Subaru had ACTUALLY gone through), he was able to vent it out as much as he can. It's the treatment against his traumatic process. From your sign G (I can also be very depressed to the point I'd just want to hide and avoid people), this is what I can agree with you in correlation to this representation although he almost had it beforehand. At "To experience trauma doesn't mean you have PTSD right away. To show PTSD-like symptoms at one point in your life doesn't necessarily mean you have one. There's just a wide range of diseases from depressive and manic disorders to schizophrenia that can be caused by trauma and has overlapping signs and symptoms to PTSD.": I think what Subaru mainly had gone through is the process of derealization. Schizophrenia is what I can agree with you between your point and Subaru's mental condition because it's one of the causal factor of derealization. Once again, Episode 15 portrays the example of going through derealization with having several symptoms of it after being done for so many times/loops. If you rewatch that particular episode, you will notice that there are momentary details that he often (almost always) has solely sensed of: Sounds that are distorted, too loud, or too soft; Objects or people look “wrong” -- blurry, unnaturally sharp, too big, or too small; And the world appears lifeless, muted, or fake (to his own perception). Also, I will like to add something. According to the author himself, he researched well more into mythology rather than psychology although he has researched both of them too, so maybe, he had written Subaru's trauma mostly in mythological aspect because he is also a big fan of mythology (judging by the name of stars into his characters, such as: Subaru, Satella (Stella), Petelguese (Betelguese), and others. The reason for this is because you might have medical perspective on how traumatic experiences SHOULD HAVE work, while I mix my own stance between both in mythological and medical aspects to it. Hence, I mentioned my statement "...in your subjective matter" because both matters of beliefs and sciences are juxtaposed towards his own writing. |
HanashiD4Nov 9, 2020 6:37 AM
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Catalano said: goku at 12 has no problem killing red ribbon soldiers or king piccolo, but in dbz he lets vegeta, frieza and others off because he got bored or wants to fight him again etc. great way to destroy a character. Hmm, I don't know. |
-Hermit- said: Catalano said: goku at 12 has no problem killing red ribbon soldiers or king piccolo, but in dbz he lets vegeta, frieza and others off because he got bored or wants to fight him again etc. great way to destroy a character. Hmm, I don't know. I was talking about that specific scene when he told Krilin not to kill Vegeta and the fight against King Piccolo was after his training with Karin, he went head first into his belly and killed him off |
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Nemo_Niemand said: Luffy vs Katakuri fight. After that insufferable garbage I've dropped One Piece for good, although I've already watched 908 episodes. What was wrong with that fight? Luffy had already defeated Doflamingo, all he needed was an edge to end the fight for good. |
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Catalano said: I was talking about that specific scene when he told Krilin not to kill Vegeta and the fight against King Piccolo was after his training with Karin, he went head first into his belly and killed him off But the situations are pretty similar. Goku tries to kill King Piccolo and succeeds, he tries to kill Vegeta (multiple times) and fails. The only difference is that Vegeta survived the attacks but was clearly defeated in the battle, so Goku let him go. Would he have done the same for King Piccolo if King Piccolo was put in a position where he couldn't fight back? I think he would, but at the same time, the maturity of Goku's emotions comes into play, and maybe he would have had no qualms about killing an already defeated enemy at that age. |
| not really a plot hole but in one scene of Minami-Ke this character is trying to talk about a secret to another character while there is legit a third person less than a meter away from them and mind you these two characters are speaking out loud not whispering so that third person should’ve heard them, and yet this person never acknowledges this when they should’ve heard them clearly; also to put more context this secret was one that included the third person so it’s not like this third person wouldn’t have reacted either way and yet this person never finds out about this secret I wish I could find a clip online since it’s probably hard to picture this with just what I wrote |
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Fiveskies said: WNchad said: The gospel will tell Roswaal very vague and general events that'll happen in the future e.g. "It'll snow" or "An assassin will attack the mansion", Roswaal works to help those events come to fruition. I don't think the gospel has told Roswaal that Subaru can return by death since he thinks Subaru can just reset on a whim. He most definitely deduced Subaru can reset from arcs 2 and 3. Hope this helps! Oh! Thanks , but wait , if roswaal knows Subaru can loop , why doesn't the witch kill him? Roswaal only knows Subaru can time loop, he doesn't know about his RBD ability or the fact that he time loops by dying. In one of the loop where he revealed his intentions back in S2P1 he tried to force Subaru to loop by beating him but he doesn't know that Subaru has to die to do it. Satella will kill Subaru or his close ones if he tried to reveal or even hint about RBD. Hope this helped you. |
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Fiveskies said: Redo-Master said: Roswaal only knows Subaru can time loop, he doesn't know about his RBD ability or the fact that he time loops by dying. In one of the loop where he revealed his intentions back in S2P1 he tried to force Subaru to loop by beating him but he doesn't know that Subaru has to die to do it. Satella will kill Subaru or his close ones if he tried to reveal or even hint about RBD. That's what I am saying , she tries to protect Subaru and also stop anyone from exploiting his powers but roswaa does intend to exploit it for his benefit. He knows Subaru can loop so it makes sense for her to kill him. Well first off, the Witches have a REALLY twisted mindset and we can't have a normal conversation with any of them except maybe Minerva since she looks the most sane of them. Even Echidna who apparently has the highest IQ in Re:Zero claims that not even she or anyone can understand the WoE's actions or mind. As for the question, it looks like she won't go berserk unless Subaru himself doesn't reveals or imply about his ability. If the chracter in question concludes it on their own then its safe. Maybe it has to do with the contract made between Subaru and Satella,Echidna did suggested that Subaru made a contract with her. For now, its just her personality is really twisted and we don't know how she reacts or thinks. Btw the anime skipped a really important info about Satella in S2E13 in the Witch's tea party which you should know about so I really recommend to read the source or just watch any youtube video on the cut content of that episode. |
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