Arin-san said:So you randomly thought that out of all the people that has ever watched a Ghibli film you are the only one to dislike it? What is the point of this post? To gather all the people who didn't like Ghibli films so they can circlejerk in one place?
I think he simply wanted to hear other people's opinionsFafette said:You're not the only one. I don't dislike most of them, but I don't love them either. I've read plenty of analysis explaining why those movies are great but I still don't get it. Aside from the nostalgia factor, the argument I've seen the most often is the whole thing about the characters feeling real because there's a lot of moments establishing their personality and all.
I've never understood it. Take for exemple Spirited Away : a lot of people are praising the scene with Chihiro crying while eating because according to them it gives her important characterization. That's not the case, I'm sorry. Plenty of shows and movies have scenes like that, they just don't last long because there's no need to make them last so long. It isn't providing characterization, it is just showing the character has emotions. I mean, it's great to know that but.. Where's the rest ? Where is the character's unique traits, psychology ?
People might say that the main characters' simplicity is what makes them human but I strongly disagree. Humans aren't "simple".
And not only that, but the characters also feel the same. Take for exemple Haku and Howl, aside from Howl's selfishness and arrogance (that is barely established, only told), they're the same person. There main characters don't have an actual personality and the side characters are flat despite the so-called complexity people always bring out... Without really explaining where it is.
And I don't understand how can a movie that lasts 2 hours make me feel like barely anything happened in it. It's like only 10 minutes were actually used to develop the story while the rest is just there to show you the character has feelings. Great.
And there's also the world-building, everyone is praising it but for me it is very bad. Take once again Spirited Away, its world-building is one of the biggest reasons of its success but we spend the huge majority of the movie in the baths without exploring the world outside. Hiw is that good world-building ?
The Ghibli movies have their qualities but they're also very flawed. Not liking them is totally in your right, because despite what their fans say there are actual reasons to dislike them.
I completely agree with you. Most of the time when people try to explain to me why Princess Mononoke is great, they'll began to list which character represents what and the complexity of nature vs humanity conflict in that movie. And my reaction is always "Okay, and?". I don't know.. it all just feels trivial to me, like something I've learned in primary school.