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| THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- I'm really surprised by how poetic this situation is... While everything was made to make us readers believe that Asta was like Yuno a very special person, he actually is JUST (well, not confirmed yet but highly implied) the son of someone who most likely had the same curse as someone he befriended (Henry) for the same reason she befriended a devil (that became her foster son) that was basically the exact same person than Asta would have been had he been born in the same harsh environment than Liebe (which means Love in German) instead of his orphanage, poor but full of love. Both of Asta and Liebe were nobodies in their respective worlds, and will definitely reach their goals together while having to climb every single step of the ladder through their own wills and strenghts. |
KalcaenOct 16, 2020 9:44 AM
| Lichita seems to be the real mother of Henry, maybe? |
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Icewolf004 said: Lichita seems to be the real mother of Henry, maybe? Henry's parents are shown in his flashback, and Licita is shown abandonning a child at what could be an orphanage... About 0% chance that she is Henry's mother, and still very likely that she could be Asta's (with her body eating away any of Asta's mana during his conception) |
KalcaenOct 16, 2020 9:45 AM
| Damn ... I never thought she could be a foster mom ... |
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| A great chapter. Loved every moment between Licita and Liebe. The last page where Liebe shouts his proclamation was amazing. And well, if this turns out like Bleach, I think Asta will win this fight by accepting an attack by him. |
| Really beautiful and poetic story with Liebe’s backstory. This gets rid of all the theories about the girl being Asta’s mom. Confirms a lot of theories we’ve had for a while about Asta’s devil also being an outcast. |
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Marinate1016 said: How does this at all deconfirm her being Asta's mom? I don't think it does.Really beautiful and poetic story with Liebe’s backstory. This gets rid of all the theories about the girl being Asta’s mom. Confirms a lot of theories we’ve had for a while about Asta’s devil also being an outcast. |
| Alight, not gonna lie, I was surprised by this chapter. Tabata didn't devise a typical cliche avenue of a backstory. I was fully expecting to be Asta's, but we got the Devil's backstory instead. The continuous development of the devils' world was cool to see too. |
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Kuroneko said: Marinate1016 said: How does this at all deconfirm her being Asta's mom? I don't think it does.Really beautiful and poetic story with Liebe’s backstory. This gets rid of all the theories about the girl being Asta’s mom. Confirms a lot of theories we’ve had for a while about Asta’s devil also being an outcast. There needs to be more explanation--which no doubt is going to happen--of this woman. But the little pannel of her dropping a baby basket, that I assume rest Asta, in front of a building kinda confirms it. |
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Morcombe1990 said: so she abandoned Asta because her body would have killed him after probably taking away all his magic in the womb and took on a devil as a foster child. so in a way Asta and Liebe are brothers. wonder when they'll realize this. we now have personal stakes against Lucifero. this is what i have tough too. but i have to admit her power is similar with henry absorbing curse. so my guess SHE IS asta mom who get same curse as henry. |
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Kalcaen said: Icewolf004 said: Lichita seems to be the real mother of Henry, maybe? Henry's parents are shown in his flashback, and Licita is shown abandonning a child at what could be an orphanage... About 0% chance that she is Henry's mother, and still very likely that she could be Asta's (with her body eating away any of Asta's mana during his conception) That can be a good posibility!! |
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| Now I'm really curious who Asta's dad is becuase if Licita is his his mom, how did she procreate with someone? My guess is Asta's dad is another important figure for later down in the story. Maybe someone to deal with once we explore the non-human races of this world. Also now that we have two people with magic absorption, this trait maybe be something for a later plot line |
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| That was a tragic backstory, so Liebe wants to eradicate the devils huh. Looks like making a contract with him might not be that hard. |
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| The question is, if she is the mom, how was Asta concieved if being near her for more than a few moments is lethal (like for that poor snake)? Let alone carrying him to term? Asta's dad either died to hit that or we now have a new mystery concerning who he is. I doubt she gave him away because of her draining ability, after all he's theoretically just as immune to that effect as Liebe (remember Zagrid's Other World spell worked exactly the same and that didn't effect Asta either). How could she even carry him to the church otherwise. One last interesting thing I noticed was the Liebe doesn't have that second set of horns. Not in this flashback or when he appeared at the end of chapter 266. Who's horns are those then when Asta channels anti-magic? Are they his own? |
JyiberOct 16, 2020 11:18 PM
| I didn't put focus on it at first, but after seeing the comments here, it seems as though Lichita had a baby which could potentially be Asta. If that's the case, then this makes Liebe his elder/younger brother. Also, what connection does she have to Henry in regards to her magic absorption ability? Anyhow, it's a pretty good thing in and itself that Liebe isn't Kurama 2.0 |
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| liebe is just a cinnamon roll wants to be cuddled |
| Sad backstory for Liebe, and we also got some hints that seem to point to Licita indeed being Asta's mom. |
| People on MAL refuse to actually enjoy watching anime. Your taste in anime isn't a personality trait. Take me back to the days before MAL became infested with Twitter's favorite buzzwords. |
| I can't help but think of the irony of Zagred calling Liebe his comrade, assuming they were on the same side because they were both devils, when Liebe wanted nothing more then to rip him to shreds. Given Licita's condition I can't help but wonder who or what Asta's father was and how he lived long enough to sire him, unless he also lacked magic. If he were still around Licita could of given him Asta rather then dumping him at some orphanage, so he ether took off or died. |
| So, this is what we know so far. Licita has a condition that absorbs magic and life energy. Her power is similar to Henry however she absorbs life and mana whereas Henry absorbs mana. She can't be his mother since we have already seen Henry's mother. There are strong hints at her being the mother. She cannot really absorb mana because Asta is mana less. So maybe while he was in the womb, any mana that could have gone to him was instead sent to Lucita. However, once he is born, he is not a part of his mother. Making it where now her powers can absorb his life. We do not know how fast it acts on living things so we could assume a few days. If that is the case, once Asta is born, she has to give him up to protect him. Thats the info we have and a possible connection. I can't wait for more chapters. |
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FireRifle64 said: There are strong hints at her being the mother. She cannot really absorb mana because Asta is mana less. So maybe while he was in the womb, any mana that could have gone to him was instead sent to Lucita. However, once he is born, he is not a part of his mother. Making it where now her powers can absorb his life. I still think Asta would be just as immune as Liebe. Remember that Other World spell Zagrid used? It worked exactly the same as her ability and what happened when it hit Asta? Nothing. It's not because he was radiating anti-magic either, he wasn't in Black form. The reason life-force gets sucked out with the mana is because apparently life and mana are mixed together in almost every living thing in the BC Universe. It hasn't been stated if prolonged exposure to Henry would be lethal or not, but remember his curse affects him too. He steals life/mana energy to maintain his bodily functions. Licita on the other hand doesn't need to steal any from anything and she's lively and energetic. FireRifle64 said: We do not know how fast it acts on living things so we could assume a few days. If that is the case, once Asta is born, she has to give him up to protect him. I don't know, that snake that tried to bite her got fried pretty quick. |
| This was great, a bit reminiscent of a certain One Piece backstory. |
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| Great backstory. Who tf is Asta's dad and how did it even happen, she sucks magic and life away from people? |
Wow this was the weirdest story ever. I'm not really a big fan of this whole "deviL' part of this story but kinda touching. So that's why Asta's parents abandoned him. It's not cause she didn't love him but cause he'd have a better life without her? I guess that's it. Did she kill her own husband too. |
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