| "Piracy actually helps the anime industry 'coz it gives it more eXpoSUrE." |
| The most ridiculous claims are all pretty much the same. My opinion is more important than your opinion because I am a bigger anime fan and know whats best. Ive been watching anime forever you dont know anything. Cant believe you like or watch that garbage its so bad. All anime after XXXX year is garbage etc. Pretty much anyone who treats their opinion as law or fact. There are a bunch of popular anime I cant stand and struggle to see why people like them but can still accept that they do. With out the variety in taste a lot of anime would never get made. |
Figva said: That DBZ is the most iconic and greatest anime ever made. Before I got into anime watching I used to believe in this statement but nowadays it just doesn't seem right. Yes it deserves the iconic title but greatest of all time , no just no . DBZ popularised anime in the western world and it also created market for the japanese animation and that thing can solely make DBZ one of the Most Influencial and One of the Greatest Anime of all time to me but still there are lot of anime out there with better story line , better character developments than DBZ but we should give credit where it's due! |
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| Definitely the good ol' X anime is over/underrated. There is no such thing, stfu. It's either popular or not. If the majority of people didn't like it, there's always a reason. It might not be a reason you agree with but it's a reason nonetheless. koichis_pen said: That Galactic Heroes is pro-autocratic anit-semetic propaganda. Or that Grand Blue has intelligent comedy. Grand Blue has stupid comedy. That's why it's funny. |
| "Popular show is actually bad because someone said it's better than popular show I like." Shit like that basically. Also alt-tard conspiracies. |
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| Toxicity of so called ardent anime fans regarding Demon Slayer, yes it partly due to the funimation anime of the decade awards and all but still i think visually it's one of the best anime of 2019 falling short to attack on titan , plot wise it's feels like typical shonen genre anime, but still it got it's moments but its no where near as bad as some people say it is! P.S: the anime really helped in the huge sales of manga as it already topped first half of the oricon by selling 2 million copies of each volume and acquiring top 1-19 positions in manga sales |
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cythraul said: Eanki said: You are free to take offense. The series is 350+ episodes so taking that much at the start to introduce stuff is pretty much a requirement. I take offense with the "impatient" label. If your anime takes 30 episodes or so to get good, nobody is obligated to endure through the shit start. Time is precious. Unless ,your writing is , you know , good There are many many long storys that are not boring until the plot picks up. Saying that a boredom period is required is litterally just excusing bad writing. A good author will develop interesting events while setting up everything needed for whatever needs to be set up for the next parts of the story. No boredom period required |
Darshan35 said: People saying that Goku is the most powerful anime character Yes ofc the most powerful anime character is Yamcha |
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Someone said: Kimetsu no Yaiba's story is painful. I've never met any more cruel writer. I don't read the manga but from what I've heard it seems pretty normal. By the way, please don't spoil me. Someone said: Charlotte is a masterpiece. The anime has a nice concept, it's good, but I find it far from being a masterpiece. It's way too rushed and packed in the latter half. Someone said: Tokyo Ghoul is one of the 10 best anime ever existed. I have nothing to say more when I see this. Even for someone like me who didn't read the manga can easily know that the anime is rushed as hell. |
spectrojan said: Darshan35 said: People saying that Goku is the most powerful anime character Yes ofc the most powerful anime character is Yamcha There is a reason why yamcha is being played in dbfz tournaments while Ssj Goku isn't ;D |
CuteAssTiger said: Gintama has good writing right from the beginning and the boredom period isn't prevalent. The thing is people expect something that's 10/10 right from the beginning. You see, most of the shonen series start off with a big blast but their writing degrades over time; gintama is opposite, it takes time to introduce and build characters and then it just goes on improving itself. Gintama after it's first serious arc is pure gold.cythraul said: You are free to take offense. The series is 350+ episodes so taking that much at the start to introduce stuff is pretty much a requirement. Unless ,your writing is , you know , good There are many many long storys that are not boring until the plot picks up. Saying that a boredom period is required is litterally just excusing bad writing. A good author will develop interesting events while setting up everything needed for whatever needs to be set up for the next parts of the story. No boredom period required |
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koichis_pen said: That Galactic Heroes is pro-autocratic anit-semetic propaganda. Or that Grand Blue has intelligent comedy. What the heck is intelligent comedy? Comedy is comedy. It depends on the person |
cythraul said: CuteAssTiger said: Gintama has good writing right from the beginning and the boredom period isn't prevalent. The thing is people expect something that's 10/10 right from the beginning. You see, most of the shonen series start off with a big blast but their writing degrades over time; gintama is opposite, it takes time to introduce and build characters and then it just goes on improving itself. Gintama after it's first serious arc is pure gold.Unless ,your writing is , you know , good There are many many long storys that are not boring until the plot picks up. Saying that a boredom period is required is litterally just excusing bad writing. A good author will develop interesting events while setting up everything needed for whatever needs to be set up for the next parts of the story. No boredom period required Haven't seen gintama but from what I've heard the beginning was more focused arround comedy anyways. From my understanding the decision to make a serious story came later on. Totally agree on the shonen blast thou. Like . I enjoy bnha but it's definitely not as Interesting as it used to be. Before it was unique in the sense that dekus quirk was a real handycap that needed to be worked arround . Now it's just another shonen |
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ShadowAnimeGod said: I used to know a guy who had never watched an anime. Next week he tells me about how he's watching a series called anime. He was definitely lying. Probably thought that anime was a cartoon or Tv show This happened nearly 12 years ago and we were quite young. That's the worst story I've ever read since Elfen Lied. |
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zieek said: Fairy Tail apparently sucks, I don't agree. A lot of people think its the weakest long running shounen. Yet those same people haven't even seen the new "Gegege no Kitarou 2017", which is many times better than "Black Clover and Boruto" in my opinion. I really enjoyed fairy tail, yes the plot can be a bit repetitive yada yada yada. Still, it has a great set of characters and you can't deny that the overall world /the guild aspect is super cool. I also live for the pure chaotic energy the guild represents. I haven't completely finished the series,and I'm a lot older now than when I started it, may get annoyed by certain things more often now and have different opinions but I still really enjoy the jist of it all. Also *****this is not anime related but something I found laughable was that someone put this couple on a pedastal and after 4 veryyy short seasons crowned it the "Longest slow burn of the Decade" the couple (being cute yes) but there was no slow burn at ALL. They barely had any interactions in the first 2 seasons and everything went down and got rushed in the last 2. I found it extremely ridiculous that someone thought of it as a slow burn /ESPECIALLY the "longest"outbod so many other ones in that decade... |
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810Teams said: Someone said: Kimetsu no Yaiba's story is painful. I've never met any more cruel writer. I don't read the manga but from what I've heard it seems pretty normal. By the way, please don't spoil me. Someone said: Charlotte is a masterpiece. The anime has a nice concept, it's good, but I find it far from being a masterpiece. It's way too rushed and packed in the latter half. Someone said: Tokyo Ghoul is one of the 10 best anime ever existed. I have nothing to say more when I see this. Even for someone like me who didn't read the manga can easily know that the anime is rushed as hell. There is nothing wrong with that. They are just saying that they like the anime. |
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| Oh no this has been cleaned. I'd much prefer the heated derailing insults, and I must admit this is a great thread. @Lucifrost That's exactly why I hate deep ass-thrusting seinen so much, well not the show itself but the shitty intellectual notoriety coming from the fans. They have this illusion of intellectuality that forsakes every bit of rationality. Man, just go on every Texhnolyze's /a/ circlejerk thread ever. That shit's wild. |
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Uji_Gintoki_Bowl said: That Gintama doesn't deserve its spots on mal. I understand that there are a lot of seasons, but dropping in 20 eps in isn't valid exp for one to say that. Then again, I'm prolly hella biased yeah people who say that have dropped it in 20 episodes, it has a bad start but gets definitely better. |
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Uji_Gintoki_Bowl said: That Gintama doesn't deserve its spots on mal. I understand that there are a lot of seasons, but dropping in 20 eps in isn't valid exp for one to say that. Then again, I'm prolly hella biased gintama after over 200 ep will get better |
_HEDI_ said: Not tryna be a bitch, but you haven't seen Gintama yet, so where's this comin from?Uji_Gintoki_Bowl said: That Gintama doesn't deserve its spots on mal. I understand that there are a lot of seasons, but dropping in 20 eps in isn't valid exp for one to say that. Then again, I'm prolly hella biased gintama after over 200 ep will get better |
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Uji_Gintoki_Bowl said: Not tryna be a bitch, but you haven't seen Gintama yet, so where's this comin from? i just read it from MAL forum that some gintama fans write it there |
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_HEDI_ said: Gottit. I can attest for this. I highly recommend it for you tooUji_Gintoki_Bowl said: Not tryna be a bitch, but you haven't seen Gintama yet, so where's this comin from? i just read it from MAL forum that some gintama fans write it there |
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PraiseTheSun123 said: Ahhh, the ignorance, how it hurts. But what could be done? I suppose when a series is subtle about its message the masses will wrongly and stupidly affirm claims such like this one, perpetuating a never-ending problem. But! If you're willing to take the red pill, then read this, or watch this. And afterwards read Thus Spoke Zarathustra for the sake of god, because if you rightfully did, then you won't have such a uncultured opinion (that or you're overly cynical) No ammount of philosophy is going to make TTGL into a good anime. Also philosophy=/=good anime eksdee. |
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Dragonland04 said:  This post here , though I am not sure if the guy was serious or trolling that subreddit is full of such shit Thx dude,you made me laugh so much. Time ago I liked BNHA so much but now after watching more shows and the 4th season, I realised that it is not something from other world.It is a good anime I guess but it is not the best by far. |
| "Dbz is the best anime ever because it is considerated like that for many people." This is for all the people that only watched a few episodes when they were kids and when someone tales about anime they said that because they dont know a shit about anime. "Anime are chinese cartoons " It is that hard to say japanese?.Also why cartoons, yeah put a kid to watch Hellsing, Corpse Party and NGE and lets see. "Gintama is good as Naruto " Look IMDB. How is this even possible? Should I explain this? Also "Elfen Lied is a masterpiece" I dont really know why. Bullshit MC ,Lucy was Ok I guess but it has nothing near to a masterpiece. Also if someone thinks in this way, plese tell me why.All the people that I heard that call it a masterpiece doesnt say it with facts, only that it is so good ,everything is so good in Elfen Lied. NO |
BrainHacker said: ribbonaffair said: yuri is the best, I love yuri, yuri is beautiful - but i hate yaoi, i don't watch yaoi, BL is disgusting, anything with the shounen-ai tag is automatically trash This. This so fucking much. I immediately stop paying any attention to anyone who unironically says this. If girls having sex with other girls is fine, why can't boys do it with other boys?. It seems the reasoning in this case is usually literally just i hate gross men they're icky ew!!! :(( Which, I mean. If you don't wanna interact with shounen ai for that or any other reason, then that's fine ig, just don't be outwardly gross and weird about it lmao |
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| People actually think My Hero is good LMAO |
| Any statement of the sorts of "ALL anime of the X genre is Y" made by a person that hasn't watched ALL anime of the X genre. Or any similar generalization. |
| that Ghibli movies are the only anime people who 'aren't anime watchers' will watch because it's more 'palatable' or 'different' from the rest of anime...when people just have this cringey view of anime that it's all like...15 year olds who watch dragon maid and big boobs (nothing wring with it but you now what i mean). When like...its 70 years of people doing hard work creating stories. there are so many gorgeous films and series that are just as amazing. and using ghibli as this like gold standard is so annoying. |
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| If you like lolis you are a pedophile. If you liked Goblin Slayer you are a rapist. If you liked the Shield Hero you are sexist. And stuff like that. |
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MSAtlos said: This anime is popular so it is immediately bad Isn't this the traditional excuse the fans always give when someone don't like their favourite anime tho? "You don't like it just because it's popular" As if it was forbidden to dislike something popular. I'm pretty sure this is one of the most ridiculous claim I've heard the most from the fans. |
jal90 said: Kona_KG said: Watch it again, and pay attention to what the characters actually say and do. I'll just throw one example out there. After the Bow Hero helps out the rebels overthrow their lord because the rebels thought the taxes were too high, the show makes a point of saying "But you need money to run a nation, so the rebels who hated the high taxes were wrong because now they've realized that the taxes were actually fair." Not exactly a right-wing thing I was speaking of the incel fantasy part. Watch it again, pay attention at the very last episode and what kind of scene in Naofumi's past life is juxtaposed to his cute moment with Raphtalia. Still not the kind of over-aggressive incel stuff it was claimed to be, but there's some very eh stuff there. On whether it is right-wing or not in the economical aspects of society, I'd say it has some for both sides while not making a solid speech on its own. Fair point on that though. I disagree on that though. I find it to be worth a mature moment since Naofumi has finally come to realization. Of course, his past life was a mess, but that's what you called Character Development. Plus, what Naofumi thinks isn't what makes him incel. |
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| Reading this thread again reminded me of something else : "Psychological/deep shows are just pretentious works for pretentious people, they're not actually good but people love them because it's 2deep4you." First of all, I can't express how much I hate for people who didn't enjoy a show to trash on its fanbase for no reason. Just let people enjoy whatever they want as long as they're not hurting anyone ! And I mean, if you believe yourself to be better than them, don't go and insult them, that's making you far worse than those people who just wanna enjoy a show ! (Because yes, not everyone in a fanbase is responsible for the trash coming out of it. Every fanbase has its trash side, but not every fan is a part of it, far from it.) And now for the claim in itself... Well I'm sorry but that's just dumb, and that's generally coming from people who forget that not everyone sees things the same way. They didn't like a psychological/deep show. Okay. Well, maybe it's just not for them. But instead of thinking that, instead of thinking that maybe it simply isn't a genre that appeals to them, they decide that it is simply bad and that everyone who loves it is a pretentious elitist. Look guys. I don't like romance. I just don't see the appeal. But it is one of the most popular genres. That's for a reason, right ? A reason I simply don't get because my personality doesn't allow me to appreciate those kind of shows, at least for now. That's all. I'm not gonna trash on people who love these shows, I'm just gonna watch other shows than romance and so enjoy what I enjoy while letting people who enjoy romance well, enjoy romance. And when it comes to psychological, it has to be the same thing. You don't like psychological shows, it's not for you, but it is a genre that appeals to a pretty large crowd and that's for a reason. Sure, in the bunch there are pretentious elitists who just watch these shows because it makes them feel superior, but they're idiots, just ignore them, they're not the majority. (Plus, you can find people like that in every single fandom, not just psychological.) Generally, people who love psychological shows are simply people who like to think about what they're watching and like to analyse stuff. Sure, worded like that it can sound pretentious but it's not. I'll take myself as an exemple, I'm someone who over-analyses everything in real life to the point of having anxiety. I can't help it, that's how I work. Psychological shows are a way for me to fill this need for analysis a healthy way. They are just like games to me, while at the same time making me feel real emotions, and when it's well done there is always something satisfying in seeing how deep the author decided to go. I don't like having everything being offered to me on a plate, I like to participate in the show in some way, and I like for the experience to keep going even after the show's end. And I'm pretty certain that's why many other people love those shows. Finally, I just want to point out how some people who don't like psychological shows are completely against people telling them that they just don't understand those shows (as I've seen in this thread, though I want you guys to know that I'm not calling out nor accusing anyone). Well, you shouldn't take it so badly. Because sometimes, it is simply the truth. I can't say how many times I've seen negative reviews which "arguments" just show the writer didn't get the characters. They just see the surface, decide it's badly-written, and don't try to understand why the character is behaving a certain way. So yeah, they don't like it because they don't get it. And that's something that can happen to anyone. It happened many times to me, and that's why I try to be open-minded, because there are many characters I didn't like at first but who are now some of my favorites because I tried to understand them and realised I was misinterpreting their actions. There's nothing wrong with that. |
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