| Interview with Jouji Nakata. He believes Fate/Stay Night: Heaven's Feel III is his most important work as Kirei. He feels it is the last time he will be able to play "Kirei Kotomine" of Fate/Stay Night so he wants to play his role without regrets. https://anime.eiga.com/news/110785 https://twitter.com/KaroshiMyriad/status/1242264964775043072?s=20 It implies that all 3 routes of FSN has already been adapted and that Jouji Nakata no longer has roles to play Kirei of FSN :'( at least we still got Rasputin T_T |
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| The first route sucks dick anyway although it would be nice to see saber's fight with rider with some high budget animation. At least the deen version had nice music so it ain't all bad. |
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Theo1899 said: The first route sucks dick anyway although it would be nice to see saber's fight with rider with some high budget animation. At least the deen version had nice music so it ain't all bad. You are entitled to your wrong opinion. |
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| In spite of all the hype Ufotable Fate adaptations have been inspiring over the years, truth is that if you look at the actual number of Fate anime series that have been released, and compare it to the number of series that were actually done, by Ufotable, you'll notice that the folks have only been doing or picking up the really mainstream adaptations, and the proportion of their overall involvement in Fate adaptations is... minimal. As far as purely mainstream adaptations go though, this was always destined to be the end of the line. The closest other thing to "mainstream" is Fate/Grand Order, which is honestly miles away from Fate/Stay Night and Fate/Zero, but given that A-1 and Cloverworks have already picked those up, RIP those hopes as well... Overall, I can't really get myself to think of this as a major blow to anything. Ufotable's work in Fate is well regarded, but it isn't everything, as has been made abundantly clear. The only shame that I can bother to name is that the Fate route of Stay Night is condemned to be remembered by the Studio Deen adaptation and a certain CGI dragon. However, this has also been addressed in the past, and we know by this point that the chances of a re-adaptation of the Fate route is out of the running. Pity, but nothing we haven't come to live with. Dull_Lull said: He feels it is the last time he will be able to play "Kirei Kotomine" of Fate/Stay Night so he wants to play his role without regrets. For what it's worth, it doesn't have to be the last time if they just give us Carnival Phantasm Season 2... |
VortexOfLight said: In spite of all the hype Ufotable Fate adaptations have been inspiring over the years, truth is that if you look at the actual number of Fate anime series that have been released, and compare it to the number of series that were actually done, by Ufotable, you'll notice that the folks have only been doing or picking up the really mainstream adaptations, and the proportion of their overall involvement in Fate adaptations is... minimal. As far as purely mainstream adaptations go though, this was always destined to be the end of the line. The closest other thing to "mainstream" is Fate/Grand Order, which is honestly miles away from Fate/Stay Night and Fate/Zero, but given that A-1 and Cloverworks have already picked those up, RIP those hopes as well... Overall, I can't really get myself to think of this as a major blow to anything. Ufotable's work in Fate is well regarded, but it isn't everything, as has been made abundantly clear. The only shame that I can bother to name is that the Fate route of Stay Night is condemned to be remembered by the Studio Deen adaptation and a certain CGI dragon. However, this has also been addressed in the past, and we know by this point that the chances of a re-adaptation of the Fate route is out of the running. Pity, but nothing we haven't come to live with. Dull_Lull said: He feels it is the last time he will be able to play "Kirei Kotomine" of Fate/Stay Night so he wants to play his role without regrets. For what it's worth, it doesn't have to be the last time if they just give us Carnival Phantasm Season 2... ufotable is just entrusted with the main timeline. FHA next! That's the point. I hate the fact that the Fate route will always be remembered by the Deen adaptation by those who never read the VN. It deserves to have a remake. If they did it for UBW then what's keeping them from giving it to Fate as well especially since it is the face of the franchise's route? Carnival Phantasm season 2 ain't coming any time soon as long as Type-Moon keeps neglecting their non-Fate products. |
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| Neutral on this tbh... I feel like if they wanted to make a Fate route remake, it should've been done years ago before HF. I'm kinda over it and UBW is an ok-ish start point. Plus, LE is a thing, which is the main Saber thing I wanted animated. I just want to see FHA and I think I'll be satisfied for a couple years |
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Theo1899 said: The first route sucks dick anyway although it would be nice to see saber's fight with rider with some high budget animation. At least the deen version had nice music so it ain't all bad. You can't tell me in a world with F/A and Last Encore that the Fate route isn't good enough for a proper adaptation. gtfo |
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| What the fuck is wrong with you people? He is a great voice actor but he is just that. He cant possibly know what ufotable is planning, or even worse, what Aniplex is planning to do with what remains of FSN or FHA. He "feels".That is all. The only thing that it implies is that he has no idea if they will do Fate route of FHA(flashbacks with Bazett). Is it hard for him to believe they arent planning anything else? We as fans alaso believed the same for so long. |
Haneken2086 said: Well, Shirou's routes are complete. So yeah, this is a definite ending, unless the Fate crew decide to try plots on Shirou's future. It's curious that Nakata considers Heaven's Feel his best work as Kotomine though. I'd argue that Zero gave the best of Kotomine. They could always re-adapt the Fate route and give it the justice it deserves but apparently ufotable respects Deen's work. Idk where that came from though. That's just what they keep saying lol. Probably because HF Kirei >>>>>> |
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Haneken2086 said: Well, Shirou's routes are complete. So yeah, this is a definite ending, unless the Fate crew decide to try plots on Shirou's future. It's curious that Nakata considers Heaven's Feel his best work as Kotomine though. I'd argue that Zero gave the best of Kotomine. The only thing Kirei does in 80% of Zero is react to what happens. React to what Tokiomi tells him, react to what he finds out about Kiritsugu, react to what Gil tells him. Even after he tries to get control of thr situation the focus is on the characters he ruins not himself. Kirei in FSN acts; he is the one making other character react to his actions.Especially in FSN. Also, Zero changed his backstory, FSN Kirei hadalready awakened to his true self before the start of the 4th War. |
ImbalancedEmblem said: Neutral on this tbh... I feel like if they wanted to make a Fate route remake, it should've been done years ago before HF. I'm kinda over it and UBW is an ok-ish start point. Plus, LE is a thing, which is the main Saber thing I wanted animated. I just want to see FHA and I think I'll be satisfied for a couple years Or you know... they could animate Fate route and put Last Episode in it. That was purely fanservice anyway because the ending for Fate was depressing as fuck. |
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| Well, i'm actually fine with this if they do FHA after this movie comes out and then are done with it. I couldn't care less for the Fate spin offs, most of them are hot garbage, Ufotable is the only studio making good Fate anime. |
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| Fuck another Fate adaptation. Give me a fucking Tsukihime remake ufotable. (Although wouldn't mind seeing Hollow Ataraxia get animated if I think about it) |
| They should go reboot the Tsukihime show, cause the OG one was practically dogshit xD |
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SteelingMax said: Well, i'm actually fine with this if they do FHA after this movie comes out and then are done with it. I couldn't care less for the Fate spin offs, most of them are hot garbage, Ufotable is the only studio making good Fate anime. Y'all will watch 2 eps of one fate spin-off and call them all trash I swear to god this website. Also I would take the words from a single VA based only on 'feeling' with a grain of salt, HA still exists and ufotable would make insane money if they adapted literally anything fate. |
Maximinoe said: SteelingMax said: Well, i'm actually fine with this if they do FHA after this movie comes out and then are done with it. I couldn't care less for the Fate spin offs, most of them are hot garbage, Ufotable is the only studio making good Fate anime. Y'all will watch 2 eps of one fate spin-off and call them all trash I swear to god this website. Also I would take the words from a single VA based only on 'feeling' with a grain of salt, HA still exists and ufotable would make insane money if they adapted literally anything fate. Yep, some people can distinguish hot trash from okay anime in an episode or two. I wish i could go back and erase Apocrypha, Grand Order Babylonia, Lord El Melloi and Owari no Seraph from my memory. |
SteelingMaxMay 27, 2020 8:05 AM
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| Fate is shit anyway apart from F/Z. I would prefer ufotable to focus on other franchises. They did a fantastic job with KnY |
Aardwolf94 said: Fate is shit anyway apart from F/Z. I would prefer ufotable to focus on other franchises. They did a fantastic job with KnY Why are you here baby? Did you get tired already? |
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Dull_Lull said: Aardwolf94 said: Fate is shit anyway apart from F/Z. I would prefer ufotable to focus on other franchises. They did a fantastic job with KnY Why are you here baby? Did you get tired already? I can be wherever I want, you just have to deal with me bashing F/SN from time to time. Its amusing |
Aardwolf94 said: I can be wherever I want, you just have to deal with me bashing F/SN from time to time. Its amusing Why are you still here baby? Nice try putting up a front though as if I wouldn't see through your bluffs lmao. Amusing my ass... you can't even respond with anything without regurgitating the same arguments over and over again. |
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Dull_Lull said: Aardwolf94 said: I can be wherever I want, you just have to deal with me bashing F/SN from time to time. Its amusing Why are you still here baby? Nice try putting up a front though as if I wouldn't see through your bluffs lmao. Amusing my ass... you can't even respond with anything without regurgitating the same arguments over and over again. Why wouldn't I be here? You know this isn't a blind fanboy forum right? I can be wherever I want to be and bash F/SN when I want stay butthurt |
Aardwolf94 said: Dull_Lull said: Why are you still here baby? Nice try putting up a front though as if I wouldn't see through your bluffs lmao. Amusing my ass... you can't even respond with anything without regurgitating the same arguments over and over again. Why wouldn't I be here? You know this isn't a blind fanboy forum right? I can be wherever I want to be and bash F/SN when I want stay butthurt Why are you still here baby? The virus has truly gotten to y'all heads it seems. stay butthurt too babe |
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Aardwolf94 said: Dull_Lull said: Why are you still here baby? Nice try putting up a front though as if I wouldn't see through your bluffs lmao. Amusing my ass... you can't even respond with anything without regurgitating the same arguments over and over again. Why wouldn't I be here? You know this isn't a blind fanboy forum right? I can be wherever I want to be and bash F/SN when I want stay butthurt SteelingMax said: Maximinoe said: Y'all will watch 2 eps of one fate spin-off and call them all trash I swear to god this website. Also I would take the words from a single VA based only on 'feeling' with a grain of salt, HA still exists and ufotable would make insane money if they adapted literally anything fate. Yep, some people can distinguish hot trash from okay anime in an episode or two. I wish i could go back and erase Apocrypha, Grand Order Babylonia, Lord El Melloi and Owari no Seraph from my memory. Why do people bait post with the most vapid shit in discussions about anime they dislike and then act like they are cool when someone calls them out. |
Maximinoe said: SteelingMax said: Yep, some people can distinguish hot trash from okay anime in an episode or two. I wish i could go back and erase Apocrypha, Grand Order Babylonia, Lord El Melloi and Owari no Seraph from my memory. Why do people bait post with the most vapid shit in discussions about anime they dislike and then act like they are cool when someone calls them out. I really don't get what you're trying to say, just because i said the Fate spin offs aren't worthwhile, you're acting like i'm hating on the entire F/SN series. |
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| Those hopes should be RIPpin' if and only if Nasu says so. |
| I’m okay with this. Let’s gets Tsukihime, FHA, and Mahoutsukai no Yoru. The other Fate story has been told already for better or worse. |
Haneken2086 said: Well, Shirou's routes are complete. So yeah, this is a definite ending, unless the Fate crew decide to try plots on Shirou's future. It's curious that Nakata considers Heaven's Feel his best work as Kotomine though. I'd argue that Zero gave the best of Kotomine. Fate/Zero was definitely his best work. He was a cartoon villian in the Deen anime and UBW & shafted especially in the latter (only there to act like a fool and give Lancer a cool moment). I heard a lot about how "amazing" he is in HF but so far again he barely gets any screentime and is just there. In F/Z he had a really interesting arc and his interactions with Gilgamesh were great. At the end when he realizes his true self Nakata did an amazing job. |
Aardwolf94 said: Haneken2086 said: Well, Shirou's routes are complete. So yeah, this is a definite ending, unless the Fate crew decide to try plots on Shirou's future. It's curious that Nakata considers Heaven's Feel his best work as Kotomine though. I'd argue that Zero gave the best of Kotomine. Fate/Zero was definitely his best work. He was a cartoon villian in the Deen anime and UBW and shafted. I heard a lot about how "amazing" he is in HF but so far again he barely gets any screentime and is just there. In F/Z he had a really interesting arc and his interactions with Gilgamesh were great. At the end when he realizes his true self Nakata did an especially great job Something he realized when he was still a child lul |
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Dull_Lull said: Aardwolf94 said: Fate/Zero was definitely his best work. He was a cartoon villian in the Deen anime and UBW and shafted. I heard a lot about how "amazing" he is in HF but so far again he barely gets any screentime and is just there. In F/Z he had a really interesting arc and his interactions with Gilgamesh were great. At the end when he realizes his true self Nakata did an especially great job Something he realized when he was still a child lul Thank god Urobuchi changed that then, it lead to a more interesting arc for him and gave us the best Kirei. Same is true for Gilgamesh, he is so boring and one note in F/SN & gets many dumb moments (just like Kirei). In F/Z due to his great interactions with Kirei and Rider he becomes a more interesting character. One has to be grateful for Urobuchi, he basically improved every character from F/SN (even Shirou since we see so little of him) and even used the premise better. lol |
Aardwolf94 said: Thank god Urobuchi changed that then, it lead to a more interesting arc for him and gave us the best Kirei. Same is true for Gilgamesh, he is so boring and one note in F/SN & gets many dumb moments (just like Kirei). In F/Z due to his great interactions with Kirei and Rider he becomes a more interesting character. One has to be grateful for Urobuchi, he basically improved every character from F/SN (even Shirou since we see so little of him) and even used the premise better. lol Yeah agreed. It's true Heaven's Feel really did give us the best Kirei. Thank god :') That's cute. Very cool Urobuchi. |
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| Can we even call DEEN's fsn a Fate route adaption? It was more like, Fate mixed with a little bit of UBW and HF, and one staff members fantasy of seeing Sakura in a bdsm outfit lol |
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Aardwolf94 said: Thank god Urobuchi changed that then, it lead to a more interesting arc for him and gave us the best Kirei. Same is true for Gilgamesh, he is so boring and one note in F/SN & gets many dumb moments (just like Kirei). In F/Z due to his great interactions with Kirei and Rider he becomes a more interesting character. One has to be grateful for Urobuchi, he basically improved every character from F/SN (even Shirou since we see so little of him) and even used the premise better. lol Kirei was a good character in Fate/Zero but he is a thousand times better in Heaven's Feel, at least in the visual novel, though I can't speak for the movies, since I haven't watched them yet. It was precisely because Kirei was a sadomasochist that he could train his body enough to become extremely strong. He would have to be very stupid not to notice the he was the weird one as what he liked did not correspond to the common sense taught by his father in the Church, only to realize it after being manipulated by another man. Although their conversations were indeed very enjoyable, the truth is that the eristic used by Gilgamesh to convince Kirei to stray from the path of God and accept his sadistic desires was ridiculous. Kirei's story made a lot more sense in Heaven's Feel than in Zero, and the fact that he didn't appear much in the two previous routes was one of the key elements that made the turn of events so interesting in Heaven's Feel, with Kirei becoming a very complex character. Also, it is in the last part of Heaven's Feel that one sees the best of Kirei, so if you're only speaking for the two first movies, then you should at least wait for the third one before judging. I already watched the trailer of the third movie, and I know that the greatest plot twists involving Kirei haven't occurred yet. SteelingMax said: Well, i'm actually fine with this if they do FHA after this movie comes out and then are done with it. I couldn't care less for the Fate spin offs, most of them are hot garbage, Ufotable is the only studio making good Fate anime. Fate/Hollow Ataraxia would be nice, though, to be honest, I would prefer a movie with Kirei and Bazzet as the main cast written by Kinoko Nasu with a more complex plot, since the flashback in Hollow Ataraxia was too short, and I hated how for whatever reason Kirei , which I believed that was the way that Kinoko used to make sure that Kirei's character wouldn't be somehow ruined in a comedy setting, but then turning him into a stupid npc in Extra and CCC was big insult to his fans. I agree that most of the spin offs are garbage, by the way. Lord El Melloi was especially ridiculous with the effeminate characters and Waver preaching scientificism all the time. |
ColtBuntlineJul 14, 2020 4:01 AM
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| It my take some time, but I could see the Fate route being adapted again eventually. The Fate franchise can't stop the milk and I don't see why they wouldn't want to readapt that route and give their favorite Saber time in the spotlight. I am not sure ufotable would adapt it, but we could only hope. Either way, it'll have a high budget so I am sure it'll look and sound great. The Fate/Grand Order anime is very beautiful and has amazing animation too. |
PriorMalUser said: Good riddance, this series is being milked to death anyway. Give Ufotable a new franchise to adapt. I became sick of their fate adaptations after Unlimited Blade Works (the first fate/stay route I watched), I stand by the opinion that the only good fate anime/movie is Fate/Zero. Look at this dude... You realize that ufotable after UBW has only done the Hf films and a non battle manga right? And if you had any analyzing ability you would be able to tell what a shitfest Zero was. But it looks cool and it has ADULTS so it is good. |
PriorMalUser said: Good riddance, this series is being milked to death anyway. Give Ufotable a new franchise to adapt. I became sick of their fate adaptations after Unlimited Blade Works (the first fate/stay route I watched), I stand by the opinion that the only good fate anime/movie is Fate/Zero. Maybe if you weren't such a low IQ dumbass who dropped out of elementary school you'd probably realize the only Fate anime ufotable has done after UBW were the HF movies and a cute slice-of-life spin-off. They've done Tales of Zestiria, God Eater, Touken Ranbu and KNY since then... you know... "new franchises" but I don't expect your expired brain to even catch all of that since you've been just saying shit anyway. |
Dull_LullJul 31, 2020 8:24 AM
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Theo1899 said: The first route sucks dick anyway although it would be nice to see saber's fight with rider with some high budget animation. At least the deen version had nice music so it ain't all bad. I'm now confused if to see Deen Studio's adaptation or not. |
Xsavender said: Only if you never watched Zero, UBW or HF.Theo1899 said: The first route sucks dick anyway although it would be nice to see saber's fight with rider with some high budget animation. At least the deen version had nice music so it ain't all bad. I'm now confused if to see Deen Studio's adaptation or not. |
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SteelingMax said: Only if you never watched Zero, UBW or HF. Nvm then cuz i saw all 3 of em a month ago. |
| tsukihime's ufotable adaptation: |
| "I like young-girl sexual creations, Lolicon is just one hobby of my many hobbies," he says. I ask what his wife, standing nearby, thinks of his "hobby". "She probably thinks no problem," he replies. "Because she loves young boys sexually interacting with each other." |
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Fantyyy said: That's just stupid to be honest. Unless you want to read the VN the Deen anime is still your best bet if you want to experience the whole thing. It's a decent adaptation of the Fate route, the main point is there, you get to understand Saber and some key things about Shirou that were only hinted at in the other 2 routes, plus it also expands some on Kiritsugu's and Kirei's characters, even in the anime you should get that. Plus the ending is just incredible, and that part was well adapted. Yes you need to keep in mind that it's not done by ufo, yeah we fucking get it nerds, the animation's not silky smooth and fight scenes are trash compared to ufo. This doesn't ruin the anime, if you think it does you don't get the point of the Fate franchise, it's not just about the action...The artstyle itself though is more true to the original work than any of the ufotable adaptaions by a LONG shot. It also tried to add some extra stuff from UBW and HF, which didn't turn out great, but it doesn't ruin the point of it at all. Saber's route is adapted fine. Your best bet is still the VN imo but if you don't want to read that the anime is fine. I actually regret putting off watching it for so long because of all these toxic weebs hating on it so hard. I don't think you should base your decision on these people who are trying to make it look like trash just because it's not as good as the ufo adaptations. This comment needs to be taken with a huge grain of salt because for this person, the original F/SN adaption by DEEN is top5 anime ever. Of course i'm also biased myself just like everyone else, but i'm definitely not an UFOtable fanboy, Kara no Kyoukai is a pretty weak film series, Kimetsu no Yaiba is awful and i didn't quite like HF movie 1. Plus i watched the original F/SN and UBW movie by DEEN before the franchise had anything to do with UFOtable, but as you can see from my favorites, Fate/Zero is what made me a fan of the series. YES, the Light Novel not written by Nasu or Type Moon is the best thing out of the Nasuverse. Shirou is such a pain in the ass main character, he's super stupid and keeps getting in front of Saber because she's a girl, "i'll protect her" even though in this route he can do basically nothing, can't he think straight, she's a super powered legend and you don't even know about Avalon, plus if you die she'll also lose the war, you dimwit. I know it's taken out of contest, but the "people die when they are killed" meme, encapsulates Shirou's character in this route, perfectly. At least in UBW he can back it up, making his character look less retarded. |
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