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Jun 6, 2020 11:06 AM
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Has there been any shows you've seen where you might agree with something that a character does and their reasoning behind it despite it going against what you believe to be morally right? Maybe even change what you think is morally right?
Jun 6, 2020 11:09 AM
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Nah my morals are incredible detached when it comes to anime

I wouldnt be able to watch or read half of the hentai and doujins I read if that wasn't the case
Jun 6, 2020 11:09 AM
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I sympathized a lot with Kiritsugu Emiya from Fate Zero though I disagree with his methods many times.
Jun 6, 2020 11:18 AM
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It didn´t made me question myself, but Shinsekai Yori definitively hits hard. The ending let you thinking for a moment about what the show presents.
Jun 6, 2020 11:22 AM
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rohan121 said:
I sympathized a lot with Kiritsugu Emiya from Fate Zero though I disagree with his methods many times.


Initially, I hated him and even though I disagreed with his cruel methods, I came to understand why did what he did. But then again in his world existed a magical device that supposedly could fulfill any wish you had. It doesn't really apply to real life right?
Jun 6, 2020 11:25 AM
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Pakumen- said:
It didn´t made me question myself, but Shinsekai Yori definitively hits hard. The ending let you thinking for a moment about what the show presents.

For sure.

Some others would be:
Serial Experiments Lain
Ghost in the Shell
Genocidal Organ (I'm watching this right now, don't know how good this is)

These were pretty much the ones I remembered from the top of my head, might add some later. They didn't exactly make me question my morality, but definitely made me reflect a bit about myself...

Edit: Add Shiki, Tokyo Ghoul and Elfen Lied to the list. They pretty much work on the same themes. "Am I a bad person because I didn't starve to death?" Something along those lines.
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Jun 6, 2020 11:35 AM
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Zeroflamez said:
Has there been any shows you've seen where you might agree with something that a character does and their reasoning behind it despite it going against what you believe to be morally right? Maybe even change what you think is morally right?


Makishima shougo from psycho-pass. Although I don't like that series but that character and his ideologies...!!!
Moral or not, I agree with him.
Jun 6, 2020 11:41 AM
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Maybe not question my morality but reflect on myself and society. Anime which did that for me were for example Devilman Crybaby and Beastars.

Devilman Crybaby because it showcases demons and humans and portraits a world where it seems that humans are worse than demons and that got me thinking a lot. The anime works with raw visuals and feelings to do so and puts emphasizes on human behavior and how horrible it can be but also how small gestures can kick off change for the better.

Beastars because even tho it doesn’t show humans the characters seem more human than they do in most anime. The struggles they go through correlate so much with things that are lacking in our world that it just hits home haha idk. I mean just the classification of the animals into herbivore and carnivore and the expectations with it each character has to fit to, stuff like that.

I know that these explanations aren’t deep at all and don’t even cover a tiny bit of the issues the anime try to showcase. I could write essays about it but your question was a simple one so I tried to give a simple answer.
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Jun 6, 2020 11:46 AM
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Boku no pico made me question my morality!! Infact I lost all hopes in humanity after watching that!!!!
Jun 6, 2020 11:50 AM

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Sin: Nanatsu no Taizai

I dont allow rape in my anime.The girls are MINE and I dont like distressed females


Then Levi raped another female . But it wasn't that bad to be honest Lol .And the girl who got raped didn't care one bit and was totally fine with it. So I was in a dilemma should I drop it and slap it one point because I dont like stuff like that. And it goes against my moral? But on the other hand if the victim dont care, why the fuck should I care? So I let it go


So even if that goes against my moral Levi is allowed to do it. Oh then she raped another female but I was so used to it by then so i didn't even flinch ,,,,, Levi is my little lesbian rape princess and she rape with love =P






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Jun 6, 2020 11:52 AM

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After finishing reading Heaven's Feels I realized how screwed up my moral is.
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Jun 6, 2020 11:58 AM

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Kira did nothing wrong, if I had a death note I would do exactly the same.
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Jun 6, 2020 12:15 PM

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Yuri-Crusader said:
Sin: Nanatsu no Taizai

I dont allow rape in my anime.The girls are MINE and I dont like distressed females


Then Levi raped another female . But it wasn't that bad to be honest Lol .And the girl who got raped didn't care one bit and was totally fine with it. So I was in a dilemma should I drop it and slap it one point because I dont like stuff like that. And it goes against my moral? But on the other hand if the victim dont care, why the fuck should I care? So I let it go


So even if that goes against my moral Levi is allowed to do it. Oh then she raped another female but I was so used to it by then so i didn't even flinch ,,,,, Levi is my little lesbian rape princess and she rape with love =P







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Jun 6, 2020 12:34 PM

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Yuri-Crusader said:
Sin: Nanatsu no Taizai

I dont allow rape in my anime.The girls are MINE and I dont like distressed females


Then Levi raped another female . But it wasn't that bad to be honest Lol .And the girl who got raped didn't care one bit and was totally fine with it. So I was in a dilemma should I drop it and slap it one point because I dont like stuff like that. And it goes against my moral? But on the other hand if the victim dont care, why the fuck should I care? So I let it go


So even if that goes against my moral Levi is allowed to do it. Oh then she raped another female but I was so used to it by then so i didn't even flinch ,,,,, Levi is my little lesbian rape princess and she rape with love =P








What show is this???????????? Also I'm concerned for your well being mah friend.
Jun 6, 2020 12:42 PM

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idk, i dont think any anime has had any long term impact on me. maybe some have had small temporary impacts but not really lasted and i have forgotten. maybe if i was a little bit younger it could.

i think watching anime in general has a collective effect over time though. like regarding perception of other cultures amongst many other things, but i personally havent had any instant revelations from watching individual shows.

i suppose after watching my first anime death note i deemed it morally right to watch anime xD. i was kinda toxic towards it beforehand
Jun 6, 2020 12:54 PM

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one piece, it really messed up my ethics along side zankyou no terror


just wanna feel wanted by someone other than the police 😫
Jun 6, 2020 12:56 PM
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not anymore since i recently realize that negativity sells due to our negativity bias so we tend to like immoral characters at least in fiction
Jun 6, 2020 1:10 PM

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weirdly enough it was one piece, made me realize I should treat my friends better
Jun 6, 2020 1:28 PM

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Hhmmn..... can't think of any when I always left those morals outside the house before I watch some anime or some obscure documentaries. It's the same case where I can never agreed to believe in paranormal stuff because it can't be scientifically proven.

And so in anime medium terms, I have a fine line between obsession and reality. NTR doujins have became my bread and butter over the years due to how majority of them hold the best artworks in terms of design so I'd be pretty much needing an hospital by now if I bother reading beyond the lines...... Or would you say I'm really in need of one because maybe I'm already broken without awareness XD
Jun 6, 2020 1:30 PM

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Nefelupitou said:
Hunter x Hunter (Chimera Ants) made me become an adept of veganism

Why though? The point was simply that humans were dethroned in the food chain ranking and that therefore their moral claims meant nothing to a Chimera Ant, just nature bro. Meat is neat.
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Supposedly, every good anime should somehow transform you a little bit, so being inclined to let that happen is a good disposition when it comes to any form of art and entertainment. That being said, White Album 2 made me think about what exactly are the limits of our actions and how we behave when we fall in love, and how exactly love can reflect upon us; that made me rethink some of my previous misconceptions of cheating for instance. On the other hand, Evangelion made me ask myself how exactly my own experiences, alongside with the psychological pain I feel, can affect my perception of the world and shape my own will. Well, these are just two examples, I could think about a few tbh. Like I said, good things should make you think and rethink what you have for granted.


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Legend of the Galactic Heroes comes to mind.
Jun 6, 2020 1:56 PM

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Mostly has to do with romance-related things, particularly with incest and age gaps/romance involving young adults-older people. The latter mainly comes from manga, but before at least I was more on the absolutely rejecting the idea side of things, however, I soon started noticing that so long as the feelings are mutual between both parties and are more emotional rather than purely lustful, who are we really to rain down on their parade? ofc there's always gonna be questions like how do you know if they're genuine and whatnot.

Unfortunately, most cases (particularly irl), especially with the age gap, do indeed end up revealing to be more lustful ones (at least from what we know), in which case I do agree with finding it disgusting, but lately I haven't really been that hateful towards those types of news since you can't really pass judgement on other people's relationships when you only know a fraction of the story (again something i realized through manga)

Again manga, this time with Even if You Don't Do It but it made me see the issue of cheating/affairs in a different light as well, in that it's not always out of just "gimme more sex" but there can be an emotional weight attached to it
Jun 6, 2020 2:14 PM

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I wouldn't say it caused a complete morality shift, or anything like that, but The Eccentric Family certainly got me to think about a few things, like forgiveness and the morality of eating animals. It's also funny when I describe one of the show's central questions to people; Do you think you could ever forgive (or even befriend) the person who killed and ate your dad?
Jun 6, 2020 3:40 PM
Jun 6, 2020 8:28 PM

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I would say Monster. As I am currently watching Monster, I am already doubting myself and constantly questioning my moral ethics.
Jun 6, 2020 8:40 PM

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Yeah many. So many that now I think nothing should have ever existed.
Jun 6, 2020 8:56 PM

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In Dororo, Hyakkimaru's dad didn't really do anything wrong. He made a logical choice to save his entire village. But yeah it's still morally wrong to sacrifice a child like that.

Also the elves in Black Clover, I think they deserve to live and be happy like they used to, and I completely understand the desire for revenge because it's pretty justified. But I guess slaughtering humanity isn't really the best way to go about that
Jun 7, 2020 12:05 AM

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Shinsekai Yori, especially the ending. It really hit hard and made me question everything about right and wrong presented in the show.




I want to know what it is,
this 'sin' they say I've committed.
Jun 7, 2020 12:13 AM
Shinsekai Yori twists made question my morality in every sense.
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Jun 7, 2020 12:27 AM

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My morality is strong enough to watch or read fuck up hentais.
Jun 7, 2020 3:18 AM

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Shiki, episode 20.5 from the specials in particular. The morale question is: is it OK to lose humanitarianism to defend it?

Jun 7, 2020 3:25 AM

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Legend of Galactic Heroes made me questioned Democracy
Хайде, хайде, хайде, това е първата зона, брато, първа зона, първа зона, добре, добре, добре, това става тук горе, отива тук горе, само спокойно, само спокойно... Ха, отдясно е, навсякъде отдясно отдясно къде е дясното ти о да добре добре добре тихо мълчаливо не успях да се съсредоточа върху това ЕХ ТЪПАК КОГАТО СИ БАВНО БАВНО ... ой е путката на моето момиче прасе куче, аз Чувствам се добре, о, мамо, *шамар*, какво е това госпожице татко-
Jun 7, 2020 3:34 AM

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https://myanimelist.net/anime/10851/Euphoria

one of the masterpiece i've witness
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Yuri-Crusader said:
Sin: Nanatsu no Taizai

I dont allow rape in my anime.The girls are MINE and I dont like distressed females


Then Levi raped another female . But it wasn't that bad to be honest Lol .And the girl who got raped didn't care one bit and was totally fine with it. So I was in a dilemma should I drop it and slap it one point because I dont like stuff like that. And it goes against my moral? But on the other hand if the victim dont care, why the fuck should I care? So I let it go


So even if that goes against my moral Levi is allowed to do it. Oh then she raped another female but I was so used to it by then so i didn't even flinch ,,,,, Levi is my little lesbian rape princess and she rape with love =P








This man gets me everytime lol. Never change m8.
Jun 7, 2020 3:47 AM

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I have no morals when it comes to anime and hentai
Jun 7, 2020 3:51 AM

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I've never actually thought that before...
But although it's not an anime yet, the latest Shingeki no Kyojin makes me thinks about stuffs... that I don't usually think about..
Hence


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Jun 7, 2020 4:01 AM

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Chimera ant arc from Hunter x Hunter draws parallels between the Chimera ants and Humanity, highlighting that both are not too different from each other in terms of the suffering they cause to the world.
Jun 7, 2020 4:09 AM

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I surely have principles I stick with based on my own life, but they're basically questionable by default, because what's morally right depends on your motivation and the circumstances and being able to agree with other perspectives should be pretty normal.

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Jun 7, 2020 9:52 AM

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I know it's my own thread but I will share my thoughts on my topic now too. A lot of Anime made me question it at times when I'd agree with letting a few die to save a million and being fine with killing someone if it's to save yourself or others around you. Also committing genocide upon a dangerous group of people could maybe very well be the right thing to do.
Jun 7, 2020 9:59 AM
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Monster, Death Note, Kingdom(but manga), and Hunter X Hunter(Chimera Ant Arc).
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Beastars made me almost reconsider the ethics of eating meat. Almost.

Meat is just too delicious.

Jun 8, 2020 8:11 AM

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Can't say I've ever had an anime that's done that for me in such a significant way that I actually noticed. Then again, the same could be said for any pieces of media due to how I consume media I guess.
Jun 8, 2020 8:53 AM

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Kaasfondue said:

Why though? The point was simply that humans were dethroned in the food chain ranking and that therefore their moral claims meant nothing to a Chimera Ant, just nature bro. Meat is neat.

Because it displayed the terror of not being at the top of the food chain, when in reality we are and spread the same terror. You don't have to interpret the arc as that message, but it's not weird to do that at all.

Ignoring the fact that I'm defending a vegan despite of eating so much meat that the effort of like 3-5 vegans goes to waste just because of me

It was just a short scene with Meruem most of the arc wasn't about that. It was to display irony of humans complaing about being turned into food. I will reject any interpretations that go further and put Togashi in a soyboy veganist light.
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I'm rewatching Monster for the 4th time now (still finding new things to enjoy) and I'm beginning to question so many things. Are people irredeemable? Does true evil exist? Is it really okay to kill a serial killer? Can guilt HELP absolve blame? It's such a good series.
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My morality is what it is and doesn't change, It is I who questions their morality or the author's.
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not question, but psycho pass really made me sit and think
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Whenever I get turned on by a rape scene in an ero-anime I usually question my own morality, but I think this one doesn't fit what you were trying to imply.
Maybe Shinsekai yori is more befitting. Squealer's act in Shinsekai yori was a bit twisted, but he was easy to understand considering the oppressions that he and his people had to overcome. Oberstein in LoGH also had me done a lot of thinking with the Westerland Massacre thing. I presume those two fit your description.
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It's more accurate to say that I don't actually have absolutist ideological beliefs in the first place. Like anyone else capable of thought, I do have my own political beliefs, religious/spiritual beliefs, and more specific/tailored personal ethical beliefs, but I view every single one of them from the outset as both:

A) Entirely subjective, as is every single other person's and culture's that's ever lived/existed

B) Subject to re-evaluation and change even within myself over time and across innumerable variables in circumstances and context

In other words, I consciously acknowledge them as what they are by literal definition - beliefs and not in any sense absolute objective truths.

So ideally I would say that every single story I ever take in, including all in anime form, should provide me something to think about and help me further internally explore and deliberate over my own worldview. In practice, some of course are more popcorn and cotton candy fluff-tier whereas it's more applicable to the more philosophically meaty and substantive ones. I would say it's something that applies to every genre and can be found in all my favorites though.

My preferred ones for this specific purpose of challenging every aspect of a false consciousness I may have unknowingly imbibed through the osmosis of cultural groupthink and self-perpetuating auto-programming are:

- Transgressive romance
- Transhumanist Sci-Fi
- Horror and especially more cosmic and existential horror
- Thriller which sets up a grand conflict or total war scenario between two or more meticulously researched and articulately explained factions which have ample reasoning to harbor wholly contradictory goals
- Even some Slice of Life and iyashikei that affect sensory awareness of time and space processing and impart desire to re-evaluate the importance placed on the larger picture of any person, place, or situation at the expense of the tiniest minutiae and details which are the rich often microscopic and intersecting woven threads of life and existence

I wasn't opposed to phenomena like first cousin pairings (incest) and even large age gaps to begin with though. I would say my relationship to the way I view sibling incest and familial relations in general has changed, but it's more as if it illuminated something deep-seeded and always present within me. I don't agree with much of the dogma and doctrine behind Judeo-Christianity and Abrahamic faiths, liberal-capitalist democracy, and the Age of Enlightenment and post-Enlightenment principles and the ethical and moral frameworks and worldview which have derived from them anyway, so consequently I've always explored a lot of different political ideologies, spiritual and philosophical disciplines all across the spectrum. The only difference between now and, when I was 15, is that I no longer believe a single view either I or anyone else in the world holds to have any objective merit whatsoever.
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