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how much big anime they are animating in almost parallel right now from God of High School, Jujutsu Kaisen and now Attack on Titan final season lol wtf? but good thing that Attack on Titan maybe delayed for next year it seems

thoughts overall?
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May 29, 2020 2:41 AM
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They are pretty good and consistent. I didn't know that they'll do snk but I hope some of the old staff remains.

Edit: just read some info, no araki and co but hayashi is not that bad, he directed garo, kakegurui and dorohedoro and worked for some nice anime projects
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May 29, 2020 2:42 AM
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I am fine with delays. Season 4 seems much more action packed from the looks of it in the PV. As much as 3 months can go into making one episode.

Anything is fine as long as we get a polished product, ofc. Wouldn't want them rushing through it.
May 29, 2020 2:43 AM
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No, MAPPA studio is MAPPA studio and JC Staff studio is JC Staff studio.
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I have quite a few favourites from MAPPA, but I nearly got a heart attack when I saw they're doing SnK.

I'm pretty nervous about that, the art in the previews seems decent but it lacks that...crispness that WIT Studio has in their animations. I personally don't think MAPPA can match WIT Studio, but I hope they prove me wrong.
May 29, 2020 2:55 AM
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Happy that they are getting such good anime to make! Well, I don't really care much about studios anyways, so I don't get whats all this fuss about JC Staff and I'm not much of a connoisseur so I get pleased easily :) Just saw the trailer for AOT s4 and now I'm hyped!

P.S. - Also who remembers directors and stuff?
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May 29, 2020 3:00 AM
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I don’t want to be misunderstood.

MAPPA has become “just” a big house for producing animated visual media upon offers from committees (corporations). Hardly any creator driven projects, hardly any original content.

It’s a valid approach and business model. But disappointing.

source https://twitter.com/liborek3/status/1266307257295405061

the new McDonalds of anime studios i guess
May 29, 2020 3:00 AM
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Few scenes from the trailer is quite displeasing. It lack of the usual dark atmosphere from the previous season. I hope it's just my feeling since I'm really looking forward to this.
May 29, 2020 3:00 AM

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MAPPA is one of my fav studios, but adapting Shingeki no Kyojin? Hope it doesn't end up like the second season of One Punch Man.


I completely agree. I feel like their adaptation is going to be a hit or miss, and I don't even want to think about what it'll be like as a miss.
May 29, 2020 3:25 AM
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i posted this on MAL news thread but might as well share it here too

pre-animated PV like this never became reality lol so ye the actual Madhouse TV series of Ironman looks crappier than that awesome pre-made PV and it was confirmed that the PV of Attack on Titan by MAPPA is pre-made too


May 29, 2020 3:32 AM

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They'll become the next jc staff once they start producing ten billion seasons of their huge shows but for now they don't seem to be too big on sequels.
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May 29, 2020 3:38 AM

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No, MAPPA's shows don't look like dogshit.
May 29, 2020 3:43 AM

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Catalano said:
They are pretty good and consistent. I didn't know that they'll do snk but I hope some of the old staff remains.

Edit: just read some info, no araki and co but hayashi is not that bad, he directed garo, kakegurui and dorohedoro and worked for some nice anime projects

I heard that most staff will be the same, and from the trailer it seems like it still has quality.
https://i.imgur.com/HzfqYqS.png

May 29, 2020 3:43 AM

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Last time I checked, Mappa is just baby Madhouse, so it makes sense they'd be busy.
May 29, 2020 3:54 AM

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deg said:
how much big anime they are animating in almost parallel right now from God of High School, Jujutsu Kaisen and now Attack on Titan final season lol wtf? but good thing that Attack on Titan maybe delayed for next year it seems

thoughts overall?


Wait.. MAPPA is doing Attack On Titan Season 4?


May 29, 2020 3:55 AM
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deg said:
how much big anime they are animating in almost parallel right now from God of High School, Jujutsu Kaisen and now Attack on Titan final season lol wtf? but good thing that Attack on Titan maybe delayed for next year it seems

thoughts overall?


Wait.. MAPPA is doing Attack On Titan Season 4?



ye check this threads out there is even a PV (but pre-made one)
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1843316
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1843308
May 29, 2020 4:14 AM

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aisakafuyumi said:
NamikazeHime said:

MAPPA is one of my fav studios, but adapting Shingeki no Kyojin? Hope it doesn't end up like the second season of One Punch Man.


I completely agree. I feel like their adaptation is going to be a hit or miss, and I don't even want to think about what it'll be like as a miss.

If it's a miss, backlash would be worse than the one that s2 of OPM got.
May 29, 2020 4:24 AM

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You know, I was going to say that you're overreacting, but then I learned they are going to make new season of AoT. This reminds me of the situation with One Punch Man.
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May 29, 2020 4:25 AM

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deg said:
I don’t want to be misunderstood.

MAPPA has become “just” a big house for producing animated visual media upon offers from committees (corporations). Hardly any creator driven projects, hardly any original content.

It’s a valid approach and business model. But disappointing.

source https://twitter.com/liborek3/status/1266307257295405061

the new McDonalds of anime studios i guess


Since when was MAPPA big on original shows? They are famous for their solid adaptations. Hardly McDonalds like J.C.Staff.
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deg said:
I don’t want to be misunderstood.

MAPPA has become “just” a big house for producing animated visual media upon offers from committees (corporations). Hardly any creator driven projects, hardly any original content.

It’s a valid approach and business model. But disappointing.

source https://twitter.com/liborek3/status/1266307257295405061

the new McDonalds of anime studios i guess


Which is funny because when Maruyama (Madhouse founder) packed up and moved on to Mappa, it was to get away from what Madhouse was turning into- basically a fast food service as you put it. So I definitely agree with you there. I think it's unfortunate too.

Looks like the tables have turned and this Murayama brought this fast-food mentality with him. Although I still believe MAPPA is putting a lot of effort at least in some of its series. For example, Shingeki no Bahamut was outstanding, when compared to the average Japanese animation series. Not a masterpiece, but a prime example of how game adaptations should look like (NO GAME, all story).
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Mappa animates really good, JC not onoy produces trash, but also animates like garbo and do horrible adaptations (go ask the ToAru fans who waited for S3 for like a decade).

Also people are way too paranoid with the change. Wit were done with SNK and a competent studio (with most of the precious staff still working on it) was the one who took the torch. Those people saying "It does not look dark enough" are just edgelords. The trailer looks fine.
May 29, 2020 4:37 AM

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deafnote said:


Which is funny because when Maruyama (Madhouse founder) packed up and moved on to Mappa, it was to get away from what Madhouse was turning into- basically a fast food service as you put it. So I definitely agree with you there. I think it's unfortunate too.

Looks like the tables have turned and this Murayama brought this fast-food mentality with him. Although I still believe MAPPA is putting a lot of effort at least in some of its series. For example, Shingeki no Bahamut was outstanding, when compared to the average Japanese animation series. Not a masterpiece, but a prime example of how game adaptations should look like (NO GAME, all story).

Actually Maruyama left MAPPA in 2015/16 and founded a new studio called M2. And right after he left you can see MAPPA embracing "fast-food" mentality.
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JC Staff barely animated action animes, also, majority of their shows lacked quality, while MAPPA have done many good action animes with some of them being very popular.

MAPPA produced Zenkyou no Terror, Rage of Bahamut, Inuyashiki, Kakegurui, Dororo, Yuri on Ice, Dorohedoro and Banana Fish. They all have gorgeous animation, yeah some of them had a decline in the animation in the later eps (Like Banana Fish / Dororo). But still, they know how to handle an anime probably.

And if you take a look at GoH, JK and AoT's final trailers, you'll know at once that they're well done. Sure, maybe AoT may not be the same as when it was with WiT's hands, but it'll be at least x100 better than OPM s2 when it was handled by JC Staff or even NNT s3 by DEEN Studio. There's a huge difference, but ppl just love to make a fuss out of nowhere and write some weird-ass shit with hating on literally everything.
When AoT s2-3 were produced, ppl were shitting on WiT's animation quality as well, like CGI titans etc ... So no wonder, ppl will hate on anything here as long as they can pay for their internet's bill.
May 29, 2020 4:48 AM

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MAPPA have yet to pull a string of shit shows out from their arses, so I don't think they should be compared to JC Staff (yet, anyways), who are known to pump out multiple underwhelming and bad shows each year.

And what if S4 turns out better than all the previous seasons combined? (By the looks of the trailers and videos, it's gonna be real good.)
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May 29, 2020 6:31 AM

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I mean J.C. STAFF can’t be topped honestly I feel
There was the time when they made 6 shows all in one season during 2012 which I can only picture A-1 Pictures beating in terms of numbers
https://myanimelist.net/anime/season/2012/winter


Plus I cant even picture MAPPA even reaching as high a quality as J.C
I’m not saying MAPPA bad but they are nothing compared to J.C STAFF in my eyes
May 29, 2020 6:44 AM

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I thought MAPPA was already the new Madhouse since Madhouse died in 2010. In term of originality, identity, productivity and reliability.
May 29, 2020 6:54 AM
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I like JC Staff so I dont care if MAPPA is the new JC Staff or not. Now I only hope they pour as much love into s4 as they did into Dorohedoro. No animation shortcuts, guys.
May 29, 2020 6:55 AM
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I mean like all the anime I've watched from them was good. With Dororo and everything, so yeah they might just be the next big thing.
May 29, 2020 7:06 AM

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You just have this impression because they were given a few anime for the rest of the year, but it's still far to equal J.C. Staff


But I sure hope MAPPA will pick up nice adaptations in the future
They've done a really good job these last years (Banana Fish in 2018, Dororo in 2019, Dorohedoro in 2020), I came to like their work so they deserve more recognition
May 29, 2020 7:29 AM

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J.C. staff animes' production values are shit most of the time. I hope mappa doesn't sacrifice quality for quantity.
May 29, 2020 7:31 AM

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MAPPA over the years has gotten better with their animation, but they do like to take lotsa risks.Their 3D can be a mixed bag too
Them animating Attack On Titan would be something interesting.





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May 29, 2020 7:40 AM

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I love MAPPA, but SnK is big thing to take on. I'm not sure if they are ready for it. I don't think they have done anything so action focused?
May 29, 2020 7:42 AM

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MAPPA can take as many shows it want but should maintain consistency.They are fine with the 1-cours but they fail hard on 2-cours.Dororo 2nd didn't look as good as the first half.Also,they rely a lot on CG.Not that it's a bad thing but if not used properly it would stand-out.I had no problem with Dorohedoro but the CGI looks iffy in Listeners.Their shows are mostly hit and miss.

SnK final season would be two cours and that's my problem.Hope it's a split cour so they could manage it properly.Sorry for those CGI hates who shat on Wit for using CGI horses because MAPPA heavily relies on CGI.

MAPPA is far from J.C.Staff.MAPPA animates like two series at most per season whereas J.C. does atleast three to four per season.
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If they won't be overwhelmed by three projects at one time, I think they can pull it off.
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I feel like MAPPA is more than capable of doing a good job on AOT, but the fact that they are juggling multiple projects is disconcerting on that front.
As far as other projects, the trailer I've seen of Jujutsu Kaisen looks good, and God of Highschool looks exactly like the Webtoon in every conceivable way, and now that it just released on Netflix in the US, I'm looking forward to finally watching Dorohedoro. It does seem they're doing a lot of good stuff.
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You all have a really bad case of not knowing how the anime industry works and any animation industry.
The anime committe is the one that all the decissions to give anime to different studios and overworks alot of anime studios with alot of anime productions,because they no don't about the so call art to make anime.
They only care about profit and money to maje from merchandise and other stuff.
The making of anime is to make money anyway,is the only way this vegetative state the anime industry can survive to this decade and another economic bubble crisis.
Because the anime already has paseed by 4 major bubble economic crisis over the past and another can kill it for good.
You we all this happen in 2031 when alot of the otaku population in Japan happen to get to 50 years age and alot of the older generations of people they are not more,thanks to not have a new explotion of children being born or what call it.
A natality explosion of people being born in Japan.
And alot of geopolitic stuff that his happening alot over this new decade to 2020 to 2031,the changes they are gonna happen by any changes are gonna be huge.
But what matters is the anime industry changing as we now know it.
And giving a new age to anime in the future.
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What do you mean the Railgun J.C Staff or Index III J.C Staff?
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don't do this deg, don't jinx it





well so far at least Mappa has been doing seasonal releases and have been releasing bangers (Banana Fish, Dororo, Dorohedoro) so I think they'll be fine for now
May 29, 2020 1:01 PM
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deafnote said:
deg said:
I don’t want to be misunderstood.

MAPPA has become “just” a big house for producing animated visual media upon offers from committees (corporations). Hardly any creator driven projects, hardly any original content.

It’s a valid approach and business model. But disappointing.

source https://twitter.com/liborek3/status/1266307257295405061

the new McDonalds of anime studios i guess


Which is funny because when Maruyama (Madhouse founder) packed up and moved on to Mappa, it was to get away from what Madhouse was turning into- basically a fast food service as you put it. So I definitely agree with you there. I think it's unfortunate too.


not my own words there btw i just posted the tweet and also the McDonalds of anime refers to JC Staff meme about them lol
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What do you mean the Railgun J.C Staff or Index III J.C Staff?
Sometimes I also wonder are they even the same studio.Their consistency is whack.
May 29, 2020 1:06 PM
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sonofbatmanrp13 said:
SapphyeePH said:
What do you mean the Railgun J.C Staff or Index III J.C Staff?
Sometimes I also wonder are they even the same studio.Their consistency is whack.


its inconsistent because there is not many talented directors (in-house) working for JC Staff afaik and the best one they got is working on Railgun

meanwhile at MAPPA they got this (in-house) director that is making God of High School and Jujutsu Kaisen almost at the same time too wtf
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I don't know maybe? Cause J.C hasn't done much worth of noting as of late and I've enjoyed what MAPPA has been doing these years. They've been pretty consistent.
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i posted this on MAL news thread but might as well share it here too

pre-animated PV like this never became reality lol so ye the actual Madhouse TV series of Ironman looks crappier than that awesome pre-made PV and it was confirmed that the PV of Attack on Titan by MAPPA is pre-made too




From what I’ve heard EVERY AoT trailer was pre-animated.
May 29, 2020 8:21 PM
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deg said:
i posted this on MAL news thread but might as well share it here too

pre-animated PV like this never became reality lol so ye the actual Madhouse TV series of Ironman looks crappier than that awesome pre-made PV and it was confirmed that the PV of Attack on Titan by MAPPA is pre-made too




From what I’ve heard EVERY AoT trailer was pre-animated.


ye i heard they are after sometime i posted that but look at that new PV i do not see any action sakuga cut there that at least lasted for 3-4 seconds that can be reuse or recycle later on the actual TV show, heck the editing is so perfect that i doubt those sakuga cuts especially the action parts have longer original versions that they can reuse on the actual TV show even
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They are pretty good and consistent. I didn't know that they'll do snk but I hope some of the old staff remains.

Edit: just read some info, no araki and co but hayashi is not that bad, he directed garo, kakegurui and dorohedoro and worked for some nice anime projects

which garo are we talking about? crimson moon was unacceptable on every level.
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deg said:
I don’t want to be misunderstood.

MAPPA has become “just” a big house for producing animated visual media upon offers from committees (corporations). Hardly any creator driven projects, hardly any original content.

It’s a valid approach and business model. But disappointing.

source https://twitter.com/liborek3/status/1266307257295405061

the new McDonalds of anime studios i guess
Putting asides how the statement "McDonalds of anime studios" applies here, I gotta say this is rich coming from based liborek3 himself who's the biggest Bones fanboy to ever bless the holy (((sakuga community))). This guy never misses a chance to throw shades at other studios which he feels are becoming a threat to his Bones agenda, Idk how he's tweeting that with a straight face while also masturbating non stop to MHA whenever it's airing which is the epitome of a not-creator driven, not-original, and basically just a work for hire project.
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ClickBaitBuster said:
deg said:
I don’t want to be misunderstood.

MAPPA has become “just” a big house for producing animated visual media upon offers from committees (corporations). Hardly any creator driven projects, hardly any original content.

It’s a valid approach and business model. But disappointing.

source https://twitter.com/liborek3/status/1266307257295405061

the new McDonalds of anime studios i guess
Putting asides how the statement "McDonalds of anime studios" applies here, I gotta say this is rich coming from based liborek3 himself who's the biggest Bones fanboy to ever bless the holy (((sakuga community))). This guy never misses a chance to throw shades at other studios which he feels are becoming a threat to his Bones agenda, Idk how he's tweeting that with a straight face while also masturbating non stop to MHA whenever it's airing which is the epitome of a not-creator driven, not-original, and basically just a work for hire project.


welp ok i lol at that, there is some truth to that about liborek i guess
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Mappa is meh to me overall, but it's gonna be tough to top the level of "quality" in OPM2 and the newer seasons of Food Wars.
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Catalano said:
They are pretty good and consistent. I didn't know that they'll do snk but I hope some of the old staff remains.

Edit: just read some info, no araki and co but hayashi is not that bad, he directed garo, kakegurui and dorohedoro and worked for some nice anime projects

which garo are we talking about? crimson moon was unacceptable on every level.

Honoo no Kokuin, this one was good I say
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