| inspired by some conversation i have today so we know insults makes us feel worthless but besides insults how many times do you feel worthless especially in real life or how society perceives you as? welp im NEET so ye i often feel this although as i grow older i begin to accept my own limitations (mainly health issues) so im becoming more content with what i have at least or i know my place on the social hierarchy more now a days so i voted sometimes but how about you? and thoughts overall? do words like "git gud" motivates you to be better too or it has that opposite effect of worthlessness? also there is a difference between destructive criticism and constructive criticism and usually i see a lot of destructive criticism here on the internet |
degJan 10, 2020 6:49 AM
| Here's a quick question. If I go to somebody who is working at a construction site and tell them that their acting skills are horrible will it make them feel worthless? Is the problem in outside events or is it in you? |
149597871 said: Here's a quick question. If I go to somebody who is working at a construction site and tell them that their acting skills are horrible will it make them feel worthless? Is the problem in outside events or is it in you? im not sure i get the example of construction workers having bad acting skills? but i think we are social beings so we tend to compare ourselves to others anyway like in success and achievements |
| I used to feel worthless a lot in the past, but in time I have learned that there are people around me that love me. To them, I'm the opposite of worthless. And that cheers me up on bad days. |
If life ain't just a joke Then why are we laughing? If life ain't just a joke Then why am I dead? |
Illuminatli said: I used to feel worthless a lot in the past, but in time I have learned that there are people around me that love me. To them, I'm the opposite of worthless. And that cheers me up on bad days. ye that too social support can really make a good difference and make you have more of that self-worth |
deg said: 149597871 said: Here's a quick question. If I go to somebody who is working at a construction site and tell them that their acting skills are horrible will it make them feel worthless? Is the problem in outside events or is it in you? im not sure i get the example of construction workers having bad acting skills? but i think we are social beings so we tend to compare ourselves to others anyway like in success and achievements The thing is that in order for an insult to work, certain conditions have to be met. This question will help you find some of the most common ones. Find and eliminate them. |
| I accepted my worthlessness to society on all possible levels a long time ago. I don't blame myself at all. Don't care for society in general. |
| Can't believe someone actually made this thread. I guess i'm not alone eh... |
  Wandering Witch is the best light novel ever! |
149597871 said: deg said: im not sure i get the example of construction workers having bad acting skills? but i think we are social beings so we tend to compare ourselves to others anyway like in success and achievements The thing is that in order for an insult to work, certain conditions have to be met. This question will help you find some of the most common ones. Find and eliminate them. well social expectations are a bitch though especially if you grow up with a lot of promise and at times you do not want to make those expectations become disappointments EDIT: if we can easily eliminate that social expectations in our mind despite being a social animal then that will be great although in my case it took me years before i can even lessen those in my mind and im not sure if i can entirely eliminate them too |
degJan 10, 2020 8:02 AM
| Most of the time tbh I don't contribute to society nor do I think I'm useful to the people around me (even just as a friend/emotional support). I honestly want to be a better person, or at least that's what I tell myself. But I'm such a unmotivated lazy fuck that instead of trying to be better I just hide in my room and try to be as little of a hindrance to others as possible. |
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| I feel worthless for almost all the time. I don't talk much and each time i'm with a friend i'm just afraid that he/she will think that i'm worthless... because i almost didn't speak a word at all. But i feel better after i enter college. My friend said to me that it's all fine to just express what you think of. People usually rely on me and believe that it's better for me to talk more. It seems that my friends view me as a some kind of a leader. They always ask me to be in front of the class and lead everything.... be it presentation, class meetings, mc and so on.... I don't like it though.... sometimes i feel like a lamb for sacrifice. But oh well it wasn't all that bad because i get to express myself better. I still feel nervous whenever people talk to me. Sometimes i'm lost and don't know what to say. So the effects of my friends word of motivation is little to nothing. Well, at least it is not going into a bad way. I don't feel as much as worthless as i was before. |
Wandering Witch is the best light novel ever! |
White_Hollow said: I feel worthless for almost all the time. I don't talk much and each time i'm with a friend i'm just afraid that he/she will think that i'm worthless... because i almost didn't speak a word at all. But i feel better after i enter college. My friend said to me that it's all fine to just express what you think of. People usually rely on me and believe that it's better for me to talk more. It seems that my friends view me as a some kind of a leader. They always ask me to be in front of the class and lead everything.... be it presentation, class meetings, mc and so on.... I don't like it though.... sometimes i feel like a lamb for sacrifice. But oh well it wasn't all that bad because i get to express myself better. I still feel nervous whenever people talk to me. Sometimes i'm lost and don't know what to say. So the effects of my friends word of motivation is little to nothing. Well, at least it is not going into a bad way. I don't feel as much as worthless as i was before. you will get that confidence boost more in the future if you keep going with what you have, they say high IQ people or smart ones are usually the ones that have a lot of self-doubts anyway like impostor syndrome and your friends relying on you more tells me you are one of the smart ones MySweetLucifer said: I accepted my worthlessness to society on all possible levels a long time ago. I don't blame myself at all. Don't care for society in general. im not sure about you lol but if you can really break away as much as possible (but not in a destructive way) from the human nature of being a social animal living in a society then great work because im sure it will take a lot of work to do |
degJan 10, 2020 8:25 AM
deg said: White_Hollow said: I feel worthless for almost all the time. I don't talk much and each time i'm with a friend i'm just afraid that he/she will think that i'm worthless... because i almost didn't speak a word at all. But i feel better after i enter college. My friend said to me that it's all fine to just express what you think of. People usually rely on me and believe that it's better for me to talk more. It seems that my friends view me as a some kind of a leader. They always ask me to be in front of the class and lead everything.... be it presentation, class meetings, mc and so on.... I don't like it though.... sometimes i feel like a lamb for sacrifice. But oh well it wasn't all that bad because i get to express myself better. I still feel nervous whenever people talk to me. Sometimes i'm lost and don't know what to say. So the effects of my friends word of motivation is little to nothing. Well, at least it is not going into a bad way. I don't feel as much as worthless as i was before. you will get that confidence boost more in the future if you keep going with what you have, they say high IQ people or smart ones are usually the ones that have a lot of self-doubts anyway like impostor syndrome and your friends relying on you more tells me you are one of the smart ones Ah i see... so that's what its called. An impostor syndrome... It's kind of true, because most of the times i think people know better than i do. While in reality they are just the same as i am. I'm not used to think that people are the same as me. I still view myself as worthless even now. I think its because of my childhood. I'm afraid that people might think i only do things for my own advantage. Thx for telling me about this syndrome. |
Wandering Witch is the best light novel ever! |
| @White_Hollow yep no problem since impostor syndrome is a common thing especially among students they say |
deg said: im not sure about you lol but if you can really break away as much as possible (but not in a destructive way) from the human nature of being a social animal living in a society then great work because im sure it will take a lot of work to do "Social Animal" mustn't mean that you care for everyone in society. I don't give a shit on most people. They can do nothing but fuck, eat, shit and die anyways. |
MySweetLucifer said: deg said: im not sure about you lol but if you can really break away as much as possible (but not in a destructive way) from the human nature of being a social animal living in a society then great work because im sure it will take a lot of work to do "Social Animal" mustn't mean that you care for everyone in society. I don't give a shit on most people. They can do nothing but fuck, eat, shit and die anyways. ye i can understand that reasoning especially in tough times that i can only care for a few people too anyway |
| Don't be worthless, you're worth something, behave deg. You've been spewing this nonsense about " I hev mental illness", self deprecation shit for years now, it's honestly disgustng m8. You know you've got an internet addiction and all of this other shit, take some damn action and apply this knowledge and make a change. |
| Konbu is important |
SuperHands said: Don't be worthless, you're worth something, behave deg. You've been spewing this nonsense about " I hev mental illness", self deprecation shit for years now, it's honestly disgustng m8. You know you've got an internet addiction and all of this other shit, take some damn action and apply this knowledge and make a change. easier said than done though i lack willpower and motivation (too lazy) and they say its part of the negative symptoms of my main health problem EDIT: >behave deg reminds me of the Joker movie lol but i did not mean to make this thread a focus on me since some user who is feeling worthless here in the forums message me privately about some stuff that influenced this thread  |
degJan 10, 2020 11:17 AM
| You mean, how many times a day? At least 20. |
"Wonder is always difficult until you forgive whoever destroyed your love of surprises" — Edmond Manning  |
| People tend to want to do something great in life to give their life meaning, what they don't realize is that there's nothing bigger than yourself. As long as I'm alive and have the capacity to learn I won't feel worthless |
<Insert clever quote> |
| Actually never. But seeing this thread made me think about it and now I feel worthless. Thanks...! |
 plz @ me |
| Sometimes. Every time one of those high school brat escapes my hands and screams all that "help me!" shit, I feel so useless and worthless that I can't even beat a high school girl. At least it does not happen with those of primary school, that would destroy my ego in small pieces. |
deg said: 149597871 said: The thing is that in order for an insult to work, certain conditions have to be met. This question will help you find some of the most common ones. Find and eliminate them. well social expectations are a bitch though especially if you grow up with a lot of promise and at times you do not want to make those expectations become disappointments EDIT: if we can easily eliminate that social expectations in our mind despite being a social animal then that will be great although in my case it took me years before i can even lessen those in my mind and im not sure if i can entirely eliminate them too So you let other people set goals for you and feel worthless if you don't achieve them? I mean yes, if we measure people's value by how much they earn then yes, you are probably worthless, I am worthless, 99% of the users here are worthless, pretty much everyone you ever knew or met in your life is either worthless or of a very low value. And what the goal of that game even is? Become the richest person in the entire world and have nobody left to "compete" with? This isn't an innate thing that needs some complicated surgery in order to be removed, you have control over your mind and your goals, you just let others influence you too much. Just because people are giving an advice/opinion or simply want you to take a certain path they believe is good for you, it doesn't mean that you have to actually do it. So here's what I think you should do (of course you don't have to listen to me either): Think about yourself, your strengths, weaknesses, things that make you happy/sad, etc. Get to know yourself better. If you feel ready, decide what kind of person you truly want to become and set your own goals. Never measure your value as person based on how close you are to those goals. And of course the next time someone is telling you how you are still not a doctor, lawyer, astronaut, whatever, just tell them that you aren't trying or don't want to be one or maybe that you just don't think these paths are the most advantageous to you instead of letting it hypnotize you that those are the things that make you "worthy", whatever that even means at this point. |
149597871Jan 11, 2020 9:43 AM
| 'Bout as often as I think Superman 64 is the greatest video game ever. So, never |
149597871 said: deg said: well social expectations are a bitch though especially if you grow up with a lot of promise and at times you do not want to make those expectations become disappointments EDIT: if we can easily eliminate that social expectations in our mind despite being a social animal then that will be great although in my case it took me years before i can even lessen those in my mind and im not sure if i can entirely eliminate them too So you let other people set goals for you and feel worthless if you don't achieve them? I mean yes, if we measure people's value by how much they earn then yes, you are probably worthless, I am worthless, 99% of the users here are worthless, pretty much everyone you ever knew or met in your life is either worthless or of a very low value. And what the goal of that game even is? Become the richest person in the entire world and have nobody left to "compete" with? This isn't an innate thing that needs some complicated surgery in order to be removed, you have control over your mind and your goals, you just let others influence you too much. Just because people are giving an advice/opinion or simply want you to take a certain path they believe is good for you, it doesn't mean that you have to actually do it. So here's what I think you should do (of course you don't have to listen to me either): Think about yourself, your strengths, weaknesses, things that make you happy/sad, etc. Get to know yourself better. If you feel ready, decide what kind of person you truly want to become and set your own goals. Never measure your value as person based on how close you are to those goals. And of course the next time someone is telling you how you are still not a doctor, lawyer, astronaut, whatever, just tell them that you aren't trying or don't want to be one or maybe that you just don't think these paths are the most advantageous to you instead of letting it hypnotize you that those are the things that make you "worthy", whatever that even means at this point. actually that is me in the past that i care about social expectations heck my whole auditory hallucinations are about this fake social scientists setting up expectations more lol but now a days like i said in the first post i accepted my own limitations and also im too lazy or unmotivated too anyway part of my negative symptoms too so ye i do not bother much with social expectations now a days but im just saying it took a lot of years to lessen that grip on me since its part of my delusions and hallucinations too |
| Every single minute of my life and even still... |
| I voted for sometimes since i think that fits me pretty well now. I used to think it very often up until a few years ago, but nowadays i'm more realistic. I have plenty of people who care about me and a job. Why would i have these things if i was worthless? Is what i think to myself. I still get down sometimes, albeit much more rarely these days, but even when i find myself thinking "i'm worthless", i just know it's not true at all and i'm just being silly. Calling myself worthless would be an insult to the people who care about me. |
| I'm sure any and all of us feel worthless at some point in our lives and we all have different ways to cope with it. I personally cope by making myself useful to others and yes even in "that" way. Being useful to others means I always have a place and I am always desired for one thing or another. But I am not like that all the time. When my mood is high I stand on my own really well and do what I enjoy. It is a nice balance of enjoying my life when it is good and making myself useful when I feel less than good. |
  ♡ Harder Daddy ♡ |
| Too often. My worth is in things not seen as of value to society and sometimes forgotten or downplayed by individuals so it will fluctuate. To be seen as having any worth in this world as is you have to be in a status position. |
| never. am able bodied, willful, and have a list of life goals to do. even if the worst occurs, i'll know i'll find my place in the world again eventually. |
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