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Nov 23, 2019 4:11 PM
#1
Would you stick with them? Would you support them no matter what? This is easier said than done, because mental illness can cause huge damage, not only to the sick person, but also to the people surrounding them. What if they tried to harm your children, or innocent animals? What if they started doubting you and thinking you were the Evil itself? Would you have any idea about how to get them back to reality? Would you like to cure them on your own, with compassion, or would you send them to a hospital where they could receive medicine? I'd like to hear your input. |
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Nov 23, 2019 4:30 PM
#2
A few are and I had depressive phases too. It depends on their behavior. You certainly shouldn't take every shit from people, mentally ill or not, because you are in a very abusive relationship / friendship / family relationships then and it's very hard to find out of them. It's mainly a question of character and their own resilience that they don't take it out on everyone else all the time and try to do the least harm as possible on others. If you are in control of your mind and don't totally snap out if it, you always have the choice not to harm your environment. As long as they take everything out on others and don't work on getting better (or don't see a problem in their behavior to begin with), you can't help them anyway, but you might become mentally ill yourself as a result of it. Illuminatli said: This is easier said than done, because mental illness can cause huge damage, not only to the sick person, but also to the people surrounding them. What if they tried to harm your children, or innocent animals? What if they started doubting you and thinking you were the Evil itself? Often they don't harm people physically, but mentally and emotionally in many different ways. People might think of the textbook psychopath first, but it's often much more subtle. |
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Nov 23, 2019 4:35 PM
#3
There's no way to cure a mentally ill person with "compassion", whatever that is. Even if I decided to be there by their side no matter what, I'd still want them to seek professional help. Mental illness isn't due to lack of love, so there's no amount of compassion that can help them get "cured". |
Nov 23, 2019 4:40 PM
#4
What would you do if the closest person to you got physically ill? The common cold is not the same as the plague. |
Nov 23, 2019 5:21 PM
#5
Already my daily bub. That's okay because they deal with me too. Mutual tolerance of eachother's garbage. |
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Nov 23, 2019 6:27 PM
#6
I would try to fix the person with my powers. Maybe also with professional help. If it doesn't work or the person is too damaged. I'll convince them to go to a psychatric clinic with me. If the person doesn't want to, I'll bite it into its leg and wouldn't let go until we are there or they are here. |
Nov 24, 2019 9:39 AM
#7
I will remain in the role of the loyal advisor, no matter what. Both out of principle and out of strong feelings of like/love. But the wish to get better has to come from the people themselves, first. It's hard to gauge how exactly another person feels without having made the same or at least similar experiences, so if nothing else helps, I will eventually suggest seeking professional help and hearing out a second professional opinion. I will continue to support them, no matter how they decide and will do research on the respective illness myself. |
Nov 24, 2019 9:52 AM
#8
Clearly it depends on the severity of the illness. Mild depression isn't the same as fully blown paranoid schizophrenia |
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Nov 24, 2019 11:37 AM
#9
Like Railey already said, it strongly depends on how ill they are, 'mental illness' can range from mild to severe. I's definitely help them seeking help or listen to them if needed. |
Nov 24, 2019 11:47 AM
#10
Cure them?. It would be great a bipolar girl, schizophrenic, yandere who likes black and blood, rainy days and read books. Omg, It makes me hot just thinking about it. |
Nov 24, 2019 11:54 AM
#11
unconditional positive regard is an option but I would frankly admit that I wouldn't go that far to support my friend unless the situation allows depends on how mentally ill they are, I might not be able to |
Nov 24, 2019 1:32 PM
#12
i would show them the power of cute anime to heal them of all metal distress but i would stand by them also and if it was severe enough to cause harm i would have them go to hospital |
Nov 24, 2019 1:38 PM
#13
this has actually happened to me. My best friend had been diagnosed with depression and had been self harming before I even met her, then just when she stopped self harming she developed anorexia. now she is addicted to party drugs and is diagnosed with psychosis (which turned out to not be caused by the drugs) but if during any of this I left her and stopped being friends with her that would just be... cruel. if you stop being friends with somebody because of their mental health or anything like that youre not really a good person. you dont owe them anything and you dont have to help them with those issues, it might be too much for you, but just still being their friend is enough. |
Nov 24, 2019 2:25 PM
#14
if its just neurosis (mild mental disorders) then definitely you can still save the relationship |
Nov 24, 2019 2:27 PM
#15
Stick by them. Show possible ways to heal. Honestly, this happened to me years ago. Unfortunately my approach was terrible. I end up being a bad friend. I'm easily affected by negativity when it comes to people who are important to me. If I don't see them helping themselves, it bugs me a lot. So in the end I became toxic at that time. |
Nov 24, 2019 2:41 PM
#16
I would show them how to get help. I did one year of the psychology course at college before dropping out, so I know having emotional support is important but getting proper therapy and maybe medical treatment is key. |
Leading biologist Scott Pitnick said: The bigger your 'nads, the smaller your brains |
Nov 24, 2019 3:24 PM
#17
If they're a close friend, no matter the severity of the mental illness, I would still stand by them. There are ways to show support and that you're there without exerting too much of one's emotional energy so you don't get too drained. |
Nov 24, 2019 5:42 PM
#18
It really depends. I already have people close to me that struggle with mental illnesses and I don't define them by their mental illness(es.) The most important thing is that they realize the situation and get help too. In the end, it's up to them to take care of themself and not me. I can only support from the sidelines. As for a hospital, I only would if they were at danger of harming themself or others. It makes me wonder though. Would people abandon me if I got worse? It also makes me wonder if I'm causing damage to other people too now. I was actually thinking about this earlier, but yeah. |
Nov 25, 2019 11:39 AM
#19
Seijatachiiii said: Absolutely agree with you here and I'm glad you stuck with your friend ^^but if during any of this I left her and stopped being friends with her that would just be... cruel. if you stop being friends with somebody because of their mental health or anything like that youre not really a good person. you dont owe them anything and you dont have to help them with those issues, it might be too much for you, but just still being their friend is enough. Have you wished or do you still wish you could do more for her? m0llerz said: Me too. What ways for example?If they're a close friend, no matter the severity of the mental illness, I would still stand by them. There are ways to show support and that you're there without exerting too much of one's emotional energy so you don't get too drained. |
Nov 25, 2019 3:10 PM
#20
I'd beat some sense into them of course! Ain't nobody bitching and moaning about shit that don't exist! |
Nov 25, 2019 3:16 PM
#21
Orhunaa said: I'd beat some sense into them of course! Ain't nobody bitching and moaning about shit that don't exist! Oh boy, I seriously hope you are trolling. |
If life ain't just a joke Then why are we laughing? If life ain't just a joke Then why am I dead? |
Nov 25, 2019 3:43 PM
#22
Illuminatli said: Orhunaa said: I'd beat some sense into them of course! Ain't nobody bitching and moaning about shit that don't exist! Oh boy, I seriously hope you are trolling. I seriously hope I was too. Bipolar joke lol im so hilarious and original /s |
Nov 25, 2019 6:20 PM
#23
Noboru said: Each friend is different, and ways to deal with their mental health varies as well. Some friends require more, and are a bit draining but it's best to be open-minded and not take what is going on with them personally. m0llerz said: Me too. What ways for example?If they're a close friend, no matter the severity of the mental illness, I would still stand by them. There are ways to show support and that you're there without exerting too much of one's emotional energy so you don't get too drained. For each situation, I make it clear to them that if they need anything I'm an easy call or text away. If I haven't heard from them in awhile, I'll typically check in. I'll be an active listener, and gently give advice while making sure my words do not make them feel worse about their situation. I don't exert too much or try to control their lives, I will constantly try and remind them I'm a support that won't leave and when the time arises where it's more dire I will step in 100% and do what needs to be done. In the end, I guess I'm just a chill support until they choose to make the progressive steps forward on their own then I'll be there again. What about you? |
Nov 26, 2019 8:13 AM
#24
A very broad topic for mental illness, since every psychological condition has different symptoms and affects people in different ways, exhibiting different types of behaviours. I like to think I would definitely stick with my family/person I love if they were to become mentally handicapped in anyway. I also think cultures play a huge role in such a decision (which may not always be taken in a completely consensual way). |
Nov 26, 2019 11:13 AM
#25
depends on what mental illness. depression is common and it's not "dangerous" i.e killing others. and mental illness that REALLY changes one's personality in such a negative way is already showing in somebody when they grow up. if they are an easily jealous person then they are already super dangerous. they should know where the limits are and what morals they want to always follow too. if they show red flags i just leave the fuck out. my safety is more important at that point. |
Nov 26, 2019 1:06 PM
#26
I don't feel the need to label people as mentally ill or not. The minute you do that you've created a whole dramatic scenario. Just accept that people are all a bit weird and odd, we've all got some quirks. It's not easy to see yourself all the time. But if someone isn't functional in this world no I don't judge them at all. If all else fails, you can tie them to a tree and let them bark until they pass out. |
I CELEBRATE myself, And what I assume you shall assume, For every atom belonging to me as good belongs to you. |
Nov 26, 2019 1:10 PM
#27
I'm pretty sure he's already mentally ill — and that obviously depends on whatever illness he might get. It's quite a useless umbrella term that can range in so many directions; he who answers this without further specifics is a fool indeed. |
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Nov 26, 2019 1:21 PM
#28
Nov 26, 2019 2:21 PM
#29
Well it depends how they treat me and why which may or may not be related to the condition. I gladly try to help people with mental illnesses if I can. |
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Nov 27, 2019 1:58 PM
#30
traed said: I (will) still worry and think about them, even if they treat me badlyWell it depends how they treat me and why which may or may not be related to the condition. I gladly try to help people with mental illnesses if I can. @m0llerz: I think it also depends on how much you like the respective person. Because even if someone seems to be demanding towards you, you can still get lots of energy out of you just enjoying the conversation you have with them and/or their presence. But I agree with you that taking things not too personal and being open-minded is a good approach This seems like some very good advice; maybe I could state the obvious that I (will) be and (will) stay available for the ones closer to me more often and/or more clearly. I wish I were better at the part about (possibly) not making them feel worse about their situation I don't like taking control over someone's life, either. But I'm not that adamant if I think they're wrong. And as much as I wish to be more helpful lots of the time, it often fails with me being too unsure of what to do the best. For example, it sounds quite noble to step in when things are dire, but how do you do "what needs to be done" and how do you know what that is? I myself try to be an active listener as well and will try to get to them as fast as possible if they feel troubled. For normal conversations and/or just wishing for attention, it depends on how close I feel to them (speaking in general here; not restricted to people with possible or actual mental health issues) |
Nov 29, 2019 2:59 PM
#31
Noboru said: I had to think about this for a bit and still don't know how to really answer it. And as much as I wish to be more helpful lots of the time, it often fails with me being too unsure of what to do the best. For example, it sounds quite noble to step in when things are dire, but how do you do "what needs to be done" and how do you know what that is? From my experience, most of my responses have been instinctual or gut based. I tend to find people who are very vocal and public about their mental illnesses to not be as great of concern. The ones who publicly portray their scar's or always say they're depressed and want to die in every other sentence. For me, the people who are very quiet and keep everything emotionally pent up worry me. I've only had 2 occurrences where I needed to step in. If you have someone close in life, you'll catch on to their personality and behaviors and can figure out when things aren't adding up. Long story short, my close friend at the time started behaving differently (i.e drinking, drugs, etc) and isolating herself. I sort of just kept an eye on her and one night something just felt off and I had to call authorities. Overall, I consider dire to be life threatening and typically the only time I will full-blown step in. This experience sort of taught me to just respect people's choices in life and that they'll choose their circumstances, all I can do it listen and hopefully nudge them in a positive direction. |
Nov 30, 2019 11:16 AM
#32
m0llerz said: Not a problem; if anything, then let me thank you for providing such thought-provoking replies ^^I had to think about this for a bit and still don't know how to really answer it. Hmm, you may be right that the vocal ones may be of less concern than the ones isolating themselves further and further, but in my case, I worry about both types and treat everything as serious. How much of an effect you have depends on how close the other person sees you. I myself find it easier to regard other people as close than to be considered close by them. It seems though like I never get close enough to catch on their personalities, but thankfully, nothing bad has happened so far |
NoboruNov 30, 2019 3:00 PM
Dec 4, 2019 5:58 PM
#33
eastsip said: There's no way to cure a mentally ill person with "compassion", whatever that is. Even if I decided to be there by their side no matter what, I'd still want them to seek professional help. Mental illness isn't due to lack of love, so there's no amount of compassion that can help them get "cured". Okay, I have to say something about this: you're completely right, but everything is more complicated and feels more worthless without someone's compassion as well. So it is an important part of the healing process or eventually even preventing of felling ill and "just" living through a subclinical form of some mental health issues. I remember I had pretty hard times as a kid and teen and would have felt much more lost and might had fell into a mental illness, if I hadn't my best friends and mom (partwise, I know she's mentally not that healthy and I somehow had to support her as a kid etc. in addition to everything.) I might have felt in the last years into serious depression, if my close environment hadn't been quite persistent of "hey, let's go to the cinema, a bar, drinking something, in a park or to convention etc." When you know people care, it could give you the energy to do something against it and even could prevent SOME disorders. And tbh I know getting professional help would be better, but I got some real fear about psychologists due pretty negative experiences I had with them as a kid and teen... I know it's dumb to still have them. In cases like depression, a lack of love (= lack of close relationships that are good for you) it is quite likely that it is the cause, or a big part of the cause, of developing a depression. That's why I still ask a guy we (= my friends, girlfriend and I) like yet rarely see, because I think he's seriously addicted to video games. He seems to play 80-100 h a week or so and quite depressed. But sometimes we manage to get him doing something else and we get him looking for a job again. |
Dec 4, 2019 6:01 PM
#34
Joke's on you, I guess, because he already is. To the point where he gets government welfare because he's been deemed to be not capable of working. He's been my best friend for years already and he's been this way since I first met him. And I'm going to stick by him until we're both old and gray because he's like a brother to me. Even when I'm overseas like I am now, I make time to speak to him every single day. It is difficult and very stressful, sure, and there's a lot of stuff I have to manage in his stead because he can't even go shopping without breaking into a cold sweat and panicking because of how intense his social anxiety gets, and simply getting him to go outside is a herculean undertaking to me. It's even more difficult while I'm away, I worry whether or not the arrangements I made to make sure he gets groceries taken to his house make it on time, how well he's handling being alone, if he's keeping the house clean, if the cat is staying fed, all kinds of things. But mentally ill people aren't bad at all, and if you actually give a shit about the person and aren't just a fair weather friend to them, then you shouldn't be focused in on those difficulties. They're irrelevant because if you've got a good friendship/relationship/whatever with them then the value of that outweighs the problems caused by their illness. So without question I'm going to stick by his side because, while I know I can be a fucking prick, I'm not that much of an inhumane shitstain. |
ManabanDec 4, 2019 6:11 PM
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