| DISCLAIMER: this is NOT just an unpopular opinion or overrated/underrated anime thread. There’s already threads for those, this is for anything anime related content wise and conceptually. Production studios, qualities, genres, characters, etc. So try to refrain from the simple “x is overrated y is underrated” arguments. I wanna hear your anime related convictions. Be respectful in your words and responses to people. No antagonistic or antisocial behaviour. What I mean by this is, what thoughts or feelings do you have towards a certain topic in anime that you’ll never change and stand steadfast by? For me, it’s that isekai is the best genre, SAO is isekai, Alice is best waifu/ girl in SAO, and Ichigo is best waifu from DITF. What hill are you willing to die on? |
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| I don't have a specific topic that I have an unwavering opinion on. As long as it doesn't bore me, I could care less about how other people feel about a thing about the show they like. |
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| Sword Art Online is not as bad as everyone thinks it is, but still not good. One Punch Man season 1 is a masterpiece. ufotable creates the best looking anime. |
| "Literary experts revealed that reviews on sites like MyAnimeList kill more than 200 brain cells per second." - Joey, "The Anime Man" |
fitemeillreku said: Sword Art Online is not as bad as everyone thinks it is, but still not good. One Punch Man season 1 is a masterpiece. ufotable creates the best looking anime. Ufotable unlimited budgets, never seen a bad one |
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| I will white knight for both the Rabu Raibu's until the day I die. Nothing will ever change that. Rabu Raibu is my bible, and I am the Crusades. |
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| No matter what anyone says, Ping Pong the Animation is not an ugly anime, and I will never ever change my stance, even if some new adaptation of it comes out with a more normal anime aesthetic |
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| I'd be willing to die on the Hill of Hope from Aria. It's the most beautiful hill in all of anime. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) |
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Elegade said: I will white knight for both the Rabu Raibu's until the day I die. Nothing will ever change that. Rabu Raibu is my bible, and I am the Crusades. please stop calling it that character limit |
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| For me, it’s that isekai is the worst genre, SAO is shit, Alice is shit waifu/ girl in SAO, and Ichigo is shit waifu from DITF. |
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| First one that comes to mind, ima stan mahouka, even in my grave. |
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| I'll second your Ichigo=best girl statement and I'd also defend any best girl from a given anime no matter how unpopular compared to other people's favorite. I'll also add to that that Zero Two is trash, Senjougahara is trash (Nadeko=best girl), Holo is okay but Norah is better. HxH is mediocre at best. Gon is a garbage protagonist and his powerup vs Pitou is the worst asspull in anime history. Most of all I'll probably defend Rem being the ultimate best waifu until I drop dead but I don't think that's an unpopular opinion. |
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| Ecchi not being inherently bad Miura being besto uhhhh and that picking up long-runners because you thought one side character had a nice rack is perfectly reasonable |
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Starchaser said: I'm willing to die for all my yuri ships I wish I could upvote you yuri is love yuri is life |
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Taifood said: vegeta8639 said: Blatant misrepresentation of what's actually happening. Not liking HxH is one thing, but calling it an asspull is wrong. Nen restriction was teased all the way back since York New. HxH is mediocre at best. Gon is a garbage protagonist and his powerup vs Pitou is the worst asspull in anime history. Oh great this argument again :D Yes it is a fucking asspull. It was never explained that you could gain THAT MUCH fucking power completely out of nowhere by sacrificing yourself afterwards and if you can do this, literally every character would be doing it if they're about to die anyway. It's so stupid. You can try to explain it away all you want but the reality is, Pitou was shown to be MUCH stronger than Gon, he did barely any training since their last encounter and then pulled a massive powerup directly out of his anus to basically one shot her. And this was way worse than something like Nartuo's nine tails mode because Naruto tells us in episode 1 that he has a fox demon inside of him and we see in the same episode that he can access its power to some extent. Meanwhile with HxH, they show us that characters can use this thing to get stronger as long as they take some kind of risk or put a restriction on themselves and then 80 episodes later, Gon casually uses it to one shot an enemy they've been hyping up for 30 episodes in exchange for his life (but jk he doesn't actually die). Just lol? People actually tying to defend this shit is beyond me. It would be like Sasuke one shoting Itachi during their first encounter in Naruto because NEW RULE! Sharingan lets you insta kill 1 person in exchange for your left nuttsack as long as you get angry enough! And then you'd come along defending it by saying that we've seen Sasuke use the Sharingan before and hey, we don't know everything about how the Sharingan works so why couldn't it have this new power? Itachi compared to Sasuke at that point is basically the power difference shown between Pitou and Gon so that analogy is perfect. Mediocre show. Trash protagonist. TRASH scene. |
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vegeta8639 said: Taifood said: Blatant misrepresentation of what's actually happening. Not liking HxH is one thing, but calling it an asspull is wrong. Nen restriction was teased all the way back since York New. Oh great this argument again :D Yes it is a fucking asspull. It was never explained that you could gain THAT MUCH fucking power completely out of nowhere by sacrificing yourself afterwards and if you can do this, literally every character would be doing it if they're about to die anyway. It's so stupid. You can try to explain it away all you want but the reality is, Pitou was shown to be MUCH stronger than Gon, he did barely any training since their last encounter and then pulled a massive powerup directly out of his anus to basically one shot her. And this was way worse than something like Nartuo's nine tails mode because Naruto tells us in episode 1 that he has a fox demon inside of him and we see in the same episode that he can access its power to some extent. Meanwhile with HxH, they show us that characters can use this thing to get stronger as long as they take some kind of risk or put a restriction on themselves and then 80 episodes later, Gon casually uses it to one shot an enemy they've been hyping up for 30 episodes in exchange for his life (but jk he doesn't actually die). Just lol? People actually tying to defend this shit is beyond me. It would be like Sasuke one shoting Itachi during their first encounter in Naruto because NEW RULE! Sharingan lets you insta kill 1 person in exchange for your left nuttsack as long as you get angry enough! And then you'd come along defending it by saying that we've seen Sasuke use the Sharingan before and hey, we don't know everything about how the Sharingan works so why couldn't it have this new power? Itachi compared to Sasuke at that point is basically the power difference shown between Pitou and Gon so that analogy is perfect. Mediocre show. Trash protagonist. TRASH scene. LMAO. Gon had immense emotion and motivation coupled with his willingness to give up everything in order to defeat him. Characters have manipulated nen with rules and conditions before. Shouldn't even have to mention that not everyone has the potential and drive that he has. So no, random characters aren't going to do this any fight their losing. Did the writing go over your head or something? This might be more your speed bud. |
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Starchaser said: I'm willing to die for all my yuri ships Starchaser said: I'm willing to die for all my yuri ships Examples, for research purposes? Just so I can verify some things |
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JFuji said: Gon had immense emotion and motivation coupled with his willingness to give up everything in order to defeat him. Characters have manipulated nen with rules and conditions before. Shouldn't even have to mention that not everyone has the potential and drive that he has. So no, random characters aren't going to do this any fight their losing. Did the writing go over your head or something? This might be more your speed bud. It's not an asspull because Gon had so much immense emotion and motivation guys! He was willing to give up everything so it makes perfect sense that he's able to pull enough power out of his anus to one shot a much stronger opponent. I could literally say the same thing about Sasuke or any shonen protagonist. By your logic they should never lose a fight as long as they really really really hate their opponent. You are defending shit writing mate. Taifood said: Since when does nen restriction have some kind of limit? Kurapika literally has absolute power over the Spiders because he can't use those powers on other people. It's this large imbalance that creates what's possible. Gon sacrifices all of his nen potential to use it all at once. The show doesn't need defending. You're just reaching lmao Since when does the show's shitty mechanic have any limit? lol? You are the one defending the show, right? Okay so there's no limit and any character should be able to beat any other character as long as they are really angry and are willing to sacrifice themselves. Shit writing, got it. Hey, why couldn't Pitou sacrifice her nen potential to use it all at once and again become 1000 times stronger than Gon? Might as well if she's gonna die anyway. I don't see how anyone can defend this shit. Either anyone can do it and you're left with a world where we should have seen this done a million times by now or only Gon can do it and it's an even bigger asspull because you just gave the protagonist a unique, out of nowhere, massive power up just to progress the plot. Pick one. |
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vegeta8639 said: It was never explained that you could gain THAT MUCH fucking power completely out of nowhere by sacrificing yourself afterwards and if you can do this, LITERALLY EVERY character would be doing it if they're ABOUT TO DIE anyway. It's so stupid. This is actually brilliant since as long as there is someone (whose strenght is basically meaningless since Gon oneshoted the strongest of the Knights) who is willing to suicide himself every new enemy can be defeated. You could build an army of cannon fodder and as long as they obey you no one can stop you (unless they have even more persons to suicide than you). Emotion and motivation? How more fucking exciting and motivating would be the fact that you are exactly about to die? My hill in which i die would be that incest and harem have absolutely no place in anime outside of parody elements that mock it. Incest HAS to stay in hentai and doujinshi. Meanwhile harem is the culmination of patetic virgins sexual fantasy (kinda like 99% of isekais are (sadly since the genre has a massive potential) power fantasy). Also Makoto Shinkai is easily the worst writter i have seen and the sole reason anyone praises his work is the massive visual quality that comes with it. On that topic: Anything with a massive stunning graphic quality will have its plot, setting or characters praised automatically regardless how bad they are. |
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CordobezEverdeen said: vegeta8639 said: It was never explained that you could gain THAT MUCH fucking power completely out of nowhere by sacrificing yourself afterwards and if you can do this, LITERALLY EVERY character would be doing it if they're ABOUT TO DIE anyway. It's so stupid. This is actually brilliant since as long as there is someone (whose strenght is basically meaningless since Gon oneshoted the strongest of the Knights) who is willing to suicide himself every new enemy can be defeated. You could build an army of cannon fodder and as long as they obey you no one can stop you (unless they have even more persons to suicide than you). Emotion and motivation? How more fucking exciting and motivating would be the fact that you are exactly about to die? FINALLY someone gets it. It's like I'm living in Idiocracy and nobody can notice obviously shit writing when they see it. And simply stating: "This word's mechanics allow the asspull" doesn't make it any better. Just to note, I've had people claim only Gon can do this because he's the only one who has all this potential and in that case it just becomes an even bigger asspull because you just gave the protagonist a unique out of nowhere powerup because you needed to advance the plot. Terrible writing no matter how you slice it. |
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| Other than most of the harem genre being trash, nothing, because "Anime is trash and so am I," thus me not taking a lot of things seriously. |
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NexivSelecaf said: Other than most of the harem genre being trash, nothing, because "Anime is trash and so am I," thus me not taking a lot of things seriously. NexivSelecaf said: Other than most of the harem genre being trash, nothing, because "Anime is trash and so am I," thus me not taking a lot of things seriously. A simple man, I can’t fault you with that. |
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CordobezEverdeen said: vegeta8639 said: It was never explained that you could gain THAT MUCH fucking power completely out of nowhere by sacrificing yourself afterwards and if you can do this, LITERALLY EVERY character would be doing it if they're ABOUT TO DIE anyway. It's so stupid. This is actually brilliant since as long as there is someone (whose strenght is basically meaningless since Gon oneshoted the strongest of the Knights) who is willing to suicide himself every new enemy can be defeated. You could build an army of cannon fodder and as long as they obey you no one can stop you (unless they have even more persons to suicide than you). Emotion and motivation? How more fucking exciting and motivating would be the fact that you are exactly about to die? My hill in which i die would be that incest and harem have absolutely no place in anime outside of parody elements that mock it. Incest HAS to stay in hentai and doujinshi. Meanwhile harem is the culmination of patetic virgins sexual fantasy (kinda like 99% of isekais are (sadly since the genre has a massive potential) power fantasy). Also Makoto Shinkai is easily the worst writter i have seen and the sole reason anyone praises his work is the massive visual quality that comes with it. On that topic: Anything with a massive stunning graphic quality will have its plot, setting or characters praised automatically regardless how bad they are. It’s only incest if you don’t say no chromo |
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deg said: lol talk about treating anime like a religion worth dying for (like blowing up yourself) Anime is the only religion worth dying for |
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Taifood said: "Shitty mechanic" There's literally nothing shitty about it. It would be shitty if the user wasn't heavily punished by doing so, which Gon was. He lost his nen completely, and would have lost more if it wasn't for Nanika. I'm finding it really ironic that you referenced Naruto's chakra system earlier for some kind of comparison, despite it being a pale comparison (and even ripoff) to nen and the fact that it's lazy, uninspired and boring. Pitou literally guards Meruem. She would be useless to Meruem if she did the same thing Gon did, and doing so would have meant her death likely by his hands (at most she would have assumed this to be true). She had no need to power herself up. Your argument is like pulling apart gum. The sheer level of reach is creating holes in between the strands connected. Characters being able to sacrifice themselves at any point to kill MUCH stronger enemies isn't a shitty mechanics. Okay. So any one of those hunters who were stronger than Gon could have done this to kill Meruem and problem solved. And him being punished doesn't fucking matter when you're dealing with life and death battles. If you don't do it, you get punished by fucking dying so everybody would be doing it if they know they're about to lose and be killed. Pitou should have slapped the shit out of Gon and he would have died. Instead we get this retarded asspull. I didn't reference the "chakra system", I just used Sasuke one shotting Itachi back in Naruto as a comparison to show how stupid what happened in HxH was. He was certainly willing to sacrifice himself and he hated Itachi so by HxH's logic he should have been able to kill him easily back during their first encounter. And this would have been stupid as it was stupid in HxH. As for Pitou, she literally said something like "I can't let this guy reach the king no matter what!" so yea I think she probably would have sacrificed herself to kill him since it's better than getting slaughtered for nothing. Your only argument is parroting the shows retarded explanation as if that somehow makes it not an asspull. Simply saying "the show's mechanics allow it" doesn't make the scene any less stupid nor the writing any less shit. |
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Superns18 said: so the hill you die on is one of shit taste?What I mean by this is, what thoughts or feelings do you have towards a certain topic in anime that you’ll never change and stand steadfast by? For me, it’s that isekai is the best genre, SAO is isekai, Alice is best waifu/ girl in SAO, and Ichigo is best waifu from DITF. vgame isekai are turds that need to be killed by fire |
| The villains are the best thing to come out of Boku no Hero and Class 1A are the worst characters in the whole show. One Punch Man season 1 was so good that it makes the mostly average season 2 seem not just bad but like a personal insult. People who even consider Adult Gon as a threat to Meruem should consider seeking medical assistance. Any Isekai story is only as good as its "unique catch" once that becomes old the show becomes boring. |
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vegeta8639 said: Finally I found someone who also thinks this, it's been years of searching. Amem.Senjougahara is trash |
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KuroudoAkabane said: Superns18 said: so the hill you die on is one of shit taste?What I mean by this is, what thoughts or feelings do you have towards a certain topic in anime that you’ll never change and stand steadfast by? For me, it’s that isekai is the best genre, SAO is isekai, Alice is best waifu/ girl in SAO, and Ichigo is best waifu from DITF. vgame isekai are turds that need to be killed by fire Ouch, please don’t hurt yourself with all that edge. |
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Bakchos said: vegeta8639 said: Finally I found someone who also thinks this, it's been years of searching. Amem.Senjougahara is trash I imagine some of those 2740 people who have Nadeko on their favorites probably agree with me. Senjou actually happens to be my most hated anime character ever. |
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Superns18 said: Lol, I got a few ships, but my OTP will always be...Examples, for research purposes? Just so I can verify some things Ikuno X Ichigo Riko X Maki You X Yoshiko |
Starchaser said: Superns18 said: Lol, I got a few ships, but my OTP will always be...Examples, for research purposes? Just so I can verify some things Ikuno X Ichigo Riko X Maki You X Yoshiko *opens google incognito, hmm I’ll research this ASAP! |
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vegeta8639 said: HxH is mediocre at best. Gon is a garbage protagonist and his powerup vs Pitou is the worst asspull in anime history. Damn, that was a post full of opinions I can't wrap my head around... But I'll give you one. As much as I like HxH, gotta agree on the Pitou fight. Felt so bullshit, considering Pitou was painted as one of the most formiddable enemies of the show, having the weak ass Gon completely pummel them like they're nothing... "Explained" through nen or not, it felt completely stupid, and I don't buy the explanation anyway. Definitely the worst moment of the show, for me, even though I loved the rest of the arc. But I just really liked Neferpitou, he/she was my favourite character in the show and seeing the fight being one sided like this, ughh... Could be done way better, for sure. And Gon looked ugly as fuck, all in all horrible powerup. Manaban said: and that picking up long-runners because you thought one side character had a nice rack is perfectly reasonable It indeed is. Lucy (and also the Blue Pegasus gal, whats her name, Jenny?) and her rack were the reason I picked up the show. And I was not disappointed. |
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Imaishi said: vegeta8639 said: HxH is mediocre at best. Gon is a garbage protagonist and his powerup vs Pitou is the worst asspull in anime history. Damn, that was a post full of opinions I can't wrap my head around... But I'll give you one. As much as I like HxH, gotta agree on the Pitou fight. Felt so bullshit, considering Pitou was painted as one of the most formiddable enemies of the show, having the weak ass Gon completely pummel them like they're nothing... "Explained" through nen or not, it felt completely stupid, and I don't buy the explanation anyway. Definitely the worst moment of the show, for me, even though I loved the rest of the arc. But I just really liked Neferpitou, he/she was my favourite character in the show and seeing the fight being one sided like this, ughh... Could be done way better, for sure. And Gon looked ugly as fuck, all in all horrible powerup. You're granting the Pitou fight or what I said about HxH in general? To make it clear, I do think the Chimera ant arc was the highlight of the show and was good overall but that scene completely killed it. Rest of the show is Naruto level or bellow. Especially the first arc was trash tier. Gon is garbage, Killua is decent. But people need to understand that just because a show gives you an "explanation" for some retarded asspull that doesn't make it any less stupid. I could have a magic unicorn show up and one shot Pitou instead then "explain" that unicorns exist in this world and sometimes they just randomly show up to beat up bad guys. Yea that's consistent with the scene but it doesn't make it any less retarded. Showing a unicorn walking around 50 episodes ago also doesn't help much. Btw, Koneko is best girl in DxD. Wrap your head around that one. |
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| That the word "anime" is incredibly gay weeb shit. What manner of cringeman would possibly use the Japanese word for "cartoon" for cartoons from Japan? Or those that unironically call a voice actor a "seiyuu" as long as he acts in Japanese... that's some cringy shit. |
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| As for mine... Kill la Kill is the best anime ever. But I guess that's not an interesting thing to say, and you can't really challenge something being a favourite. So there's two things about it that I would like to say. I heard multiple times on this forum (think it was the ecchi crowd) something along the lines that KLK is "ashamed" of its nudity, and that's why it uses it this or that way, and I just think its complete bullshit. Yes, nudity is a theme of the show, and it's a good and interesting way to go about it, but it's nevertheless also used in a typical fanservicey way, it's not ashamed of anything, it wouldn't be Imaishi's show otherwise. He likes this stuff and its part of everything he directed, fanservice and sex allusions. At the same time I'm shifting the weight of this on some of the other fans of the show, that try their hardest to say the show is somehow 'pure' with its nudity as if they themselves were ashamed they like something that has 'ecchi' elements in it. And not gonna lie, I am bit guilty of swaying this way a little in the past, but I feel I view the show bit differently every time I watch it - and it's been 8 times already. Another thing would be people saying KLK has 'shit animation' and that it looks bad. It doesn't. It's visual direction is absolutely fantastic, what it does with the camera and character sizes to express the impact of things is amazing, sequences move from one to another super well, and generally I feel the visuals are one of the strongest points of the show, if not the best thing about it. Also people saying "this character isn't animated 'properly' during this scene, the animation sucks". Holy fuck, lmao. Yeah, there are some scenes where characters are literally cardboard and it's done by choice to achieve a comedic/silly effect. It uses the lack/limited animation super well IMO, and even if one is not a fan of the style, attributing it to the show having 'shit animation' or, even more so, to the budget, is idiotic. Now, moving away from Kill la Kill. NGE. And, what I want to say is, I don't believe the plot of it 'doesn't matter' and is irrelevant, or any statement in general, surprisingly usually made by fans of the show, that reduces the show just to its psychological and thematic aspects. Yes, NGE is great in all that stuff, it's probably the strongest part of it too... But saying 'plot is kinda there' or bullshit like that? There's still one overarching intense as fuck story about saving the world, accompanied by some cool imaginery and amazing, well directed action. I can't imagine loving the show and not caring about it, but well, to each their own. I just think it shouldn't be sold short, and yes, I'm gonna say, the story of NGE is important and it woudln't be the same without it. |
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