Kagami said: drip said: I didn't exactly move my goalposts, there becomes a point when it's so minute you can call it non existent. Ridiculous. There were anime magazines in the 90s/2000s, merch sold in stores and passionate fans. There was just less fat. Sorry you have that backwards, anime viewers now are much less fat. Normal people watch anime now and that's purely because of streaming sites. I mean if you preferred being a stereotype that's cool I guess. It's not the fact I care what other people class us as, I care that there's an active community for discussion. A few passionate people vs millions of millions is not better. |
drip said: Kagami said: Ridiculous. There were anime magazines in the 90s/2000s, merch sold in stores and passionate fans. There was just less fat. Sorry you have that backwards, anime viewers now are much less fat. Normal people watch anime now and that's purely because of streaming sites. I mean if you preferred being a stereotype that's cool I guess. It's not the fact I care what other people class us as, I care that there's an active community for discussion. A few passionate people vs millions of millions is not better. You're stretching. Firstly because everyone who watched anime has always been "normal". Secondly because anime fans still have stereotypes. You shouldn't be so insecure about these stereotypes. Also, it wasn't a few passionate fans. You're also still moving said goalposts. |
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Kagami said: drip said: Sorry you have that backwards, anime viewers now are much less fat. Normal people watch anime now and that's purely because of streaming sites. I mean if you preferred being a stereotype that's cool I guess. It's not the fact I care what other people class us as, I care that there's an active community for discussion. A few passionate people vs millions of millions is not better. You're stretching. Firstly because everyone who watched anime has always been "normal". Secondly because anime fans still have stereotypes. You shouldn't be so insecure about these stereotypes. Also, it wasn't a few passionate fans. You're also still moving said goalposts. You're moving the goal posts now? How can you make the outrageous claim that it wasn't just a few? Please tell me how thousands is not considered a few compared to millions? It literally had the niche following like niche sports. Have you ever watched competitive tetris? That shit has a few thousand passionate followers, let me compare it to boxing. |
drip said: Kagami said: You're stretching. Firstly because everyone who watched anime has always been "normal". Secondly because anime fans still have stereotypes. You shouldn't be so insecure about these stereotypes. Also, it wasn't a few passionate fans. You're also still moving said goalposts. You're moving the goal posts now? How can you make the outrageous claim that it wasn't just a few? Please tell me how thousands is not considered a few compared to millions? It literally had the niche following like niche sports. Have you ever watched competitive tetris? That shit has a few thousand passionate followers, let me compare it to boxing. You've been the goalposts entire time. Listen, how old are you? I'm 26. Clearly remember anime magazines and anime merch being sold through 2000s and 90s. The 80s was the niche you're thinking of, not the other decades. Edit: late 1995 birth is relevant. Almost 3 years younger. You're misremembering 1996-2008. |
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Kagami said: drip said: You're moving the goal posts now? How can you make the outrageous claim that it wasn't just a few? Please tell me how thousands is not considered a few compared to millions? It literally had the niche following like niche sports. Have you ever watched competitive tetris? That shit has a few thousand passionate followers, let me compare it to boxing. You've been the goalposts entire time. Listen, how old are you? I'm 26. Clearly remember anime magazines and anime merch being sold through 2000s and 90s. The 80s was the niche you're thinking of, not the other decades. You're 2 years older than me, you had jump and shit being sold, you were literally limited to shounens. Real fucking talk who owns the rights to kakegurui? |
drip said: Kagami said: You've been the goalposts entire time. Listen, how old are you? I'm 26. Clearly remember anime magazines and anime merch being sold through 2000s and 90s. The 80s was the niche you're thinking of, not the other decades. You're 2 years older than me, you had jump and shit being sold, you were literally limited to shounens. Real fucking talk who owns the rights to kakegurui? How is Kakegurai relevant? How are you so secluded that you didnt notice all the anime vhs, dvds, merch being sold? My fucking library in 2001 had a huge manga section. You're misremembering 1996-2008. Clearly. |
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Kagami said: drip said: You're 2 years older than me, you had jump and shit being sold, you were literally limited to shounens. Real fucking talk who owns the rights to kakegurui? How is Kakegurai relevant? How are you so secluded that you didnt notice all the anime vhs, dvds, merch being sold? My fucking library in 2001 had a huge manga section. You're misremembering 1996-2008. Clearly. It's relevant because I'm trying to watch it, I just bought crunchyroll to find out it's a netflix exclusive to fucking find out it's not airing season 2 yet? Like this is the shit that's unacceptable. Where the hell do you live? My library didn't get manga until like 2012, and that's the only local library with any. The deepest shit it's got is Toradora. Where the fuck Elon Musk streaming Kakegurui from? |
| I only use illegal streaming sites if its not on CR or HiDive. So it probably wouldn't bother me much I would just be missing out on like one or two good shows. |
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drip said: Kagami said: How is Kakegurai relevant? How are you so secluded that you didnt notice all the anime vhs, dvds, merch being sold? My fucking library in 2001 had a huge manga section. You're misremembering 1996-2008. Clearly. It's relevant because I'm trying to watch it, I just bought crunchyroll to find out it's a netflix exclusive to fucking find out it's not airing season 2 yet? Like this is the shit that's unacceptable. Where the hell do you live? My library didn't get manga until like 2012, and that's the only local library with any. The deepest shit it's got is Toradora. Where the fuck Elon Musk streaming Kakegurui from? You must live in a very small town. I live in Massachusetts. Anime/manga was always being sold here. Fruits Basket and even more niche ones. Anime was common for me very early in my life. |
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Kagami said: drip said: It's relevant because I'm trying to watch it, I just bought crunchyroll to find out it's a netflix exclusive to fucking find out it's not airing season 2 yet? Like this is the shit that's unacceptable. Where the hell do you live? My library didn't get manga until like 2012, and that's the only local library with any. The deepest shit it's got is Toradora. Where the fuck Elon Musk streaming Kakegurui from? You must live in a very small town. I live in Massachusetts. Anime/manga was always being sold here. Fruits Basket and even more niche ones. Anime was common for me very early in my life. I live in Cincinnati, not a small place. Fruit Baskets, host club and all that was never niche that's some hot topic bullshit. |
drip said: Kagami said: You must live in a very small town. I live in Massachusetts. Anime/manga was always being sold here. Fruits Basket and even more niche ones. Anime was common for me very early in my life. I live in Cincinnati, not a small place. Fruit Baskets, host club and all that was never niche that's some hot topic bullshit. B-But you went from... > no fans to > only shounen to > fruits basket was never niche |
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Kagami said: Nurguburu said: >breaking the law >how lucky I am to be able to watch anime free Don't worry, we have Nyaa. Did I stutter? If anime fans are going to break the law at least be thankful you all can watch anime free. Sadly, modern anime fans don't realize how lucky they are. OPEN THE DOOR. YOU WATCHED ANIME FOR FREE, NOW OPEN UP. YOU'RE BREAKING THE LAW. |
Kagami said: drip said: I live in Cincinnati, not a small place. Fruit Baskets, host club and all that was never niche that's some hot topic bullshit. B-But you went from... > no fans to > only shounen to > fruits basket was never niche You make me slap my fast so damn hard. Why do you go a mile when I give you an inch? You can lump all those era shit shows together, throw girls bravo in there and have a party at hot topic. That doesn't change the scene in your favor? |
drip said: Kagami said: B-But you went from... > no fans to > only shounen to > fruits basket was never niche You make me slap my fast so damn hard. Why do you go a mile when I give you an inch? You can lump all those era shit shows together, throw girls bravo in there and have a party at hot topic. That doesn't change the scene in your favor? I slap your fast? Listen. This by definition is moving said goalposts. Your argument is derailed. |
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Kagami said: drip said: You make me slap my fast so damn hard. Why do you go a mile when I give you an inch? You can lump all those era shit shows together, throw girls bravo in there and have a party at hot topic. That doesn't change the scene in your favor? I slap your fast? Listen. This by definition is moving said goalposts. Your argument is derailed. I'm just trying to watch kakegurui at this point. You don't see anything wrong with the fan base in the 90s or 00s and that's the point i'm trying to make. If we didn't evolve from that pit we would still be them. Streaming opened this world up to a much broader audience and created what anime in the west is today, a much more mature and accepted group that never would have been possible without it. Even though you claim we had it good back then you cannot deny we were limited as to what we could consume and that is no different than forcing us behind premium sites that limit what we can watch. Goalposts whatever, I guess you got me anime back then existed, and we're going back to that time where we can only consume what they feed us. |
Daphi said: mcl69 said: Crunchyroll will always be there for you :) the day crunchyroll becomes the only choice will be the day i stop watching anime DW, there will still be torrents. .. |
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| No I don't think so, because once one shuts down another 2 or 3 pop up there is so many out there that it would be hard for them to close them all. I haven't even heard of the anime sites you mentioned I use kissanime and 9anime |
| You'd think nearly 20 years after Napster people would stop worrying about this. The only thing that ever puts a dent in piracy is a more convenient alternative, so if anything the current fragmentation is likely to drive more of it, not less. drip said: Kagami said: You must live in a very small town. I live in Massachusetts. Anime/manga was always being sold here. Fruits Basket and even more niche ones. Anime was common for me very early in my life. I live in Cincinnati, not a small place. Fruit Baskets, host club and all that was never niche that's some hot topic bullshit. The boom of the late 90s had already started petering out around the mid-to-late 00s as I recall, so coupled with the dependency back then on TV and brick-and-mortar it probably varied by region. Fansubs may not have created the western anime market, but they at least carried the torch while the industry was getting its shit back together. |
STOP0x7C said: You'd think nearly 20 years after Napster people would stop worrying about this. The only thing that ever puts a dent in piracy is a more convenient alternative, so if anything the current fragmentation is likely to drive more of it, not less. drip said: I live in Cincinnati, not a small place. Fruit Baskets, host club and all that was never niche that's some hot topic bullshit. The boom of the late 90s had already started petering out around the mid-to-late 00s as I recall, so coupled with the dependency back then on TV and brick-and-mortar it probably varied by region. Fansubs may not have created the western anime market, but they at least carried the torch while the industry was getting its shit back together. I would watch anime on CR or other legal sites if they had more anime. I'm not gonna go to CR for such a limited library |
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| Illegal streaming services, maybe. But sites like Crunchyroll and Netflix have been doing extremely well these past few years. That being said, as long as relatively obscure or niche titles that aren't given mainstream releases exist, unofficial avenues though which to watch them will be in demand to at least some degree. That's why I can't see illegal streaming sites dying out entirely. I mean, you won't see Amazon or Netflix picking up Belladonna of Sadness anytime soon so yeah. |
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| I don't think so. Piracy can't be beaten until there is legal way that's providing better service, which at this point in time is not the case with anime streaming industry. Therefore as many people already said, these will go down, and another will pop up to replace them, and the cycle will continue like that until situation changes, which it likely won't anytime soon due to the current state of copyright laws as well as no legal service that would actually attempt to be good. And there is always downloading as well, which I use exclusively recently, and that won't go down anytime soon. If movie and gaming industry did not bring down torrenting, then anime won't stand a chance. Therefore for me this will have very little effect. |
Kagami said: Curte-sensei said: These are pirate sites. They had to shut down due to copyright issues. Hopefully paid sites will prevail. This. I for one support the closure of piracy sites. I can't say I don't do it myself so I can't be a hypocrite, but I realize how lucky I am to be able to watch anime free. Piracy sites closing would help the medium. If anything, it would destroy the medium lol Luckily, that's not gonna happen, pirate sites aren't going anywhere. |
| When i was new to watching anime's online(late 2011) i used to watch them on sites like animeultima,animecrazy and animefreak but sadly all 3 of them has now been shut down but there were many other new sites who took over from them and continue to show us animes So,although its sad to see older sites shutting down but i don't think that it will have any big effect on streaming sites overall as the new ones will replace the old ones very quickly |
| Out of interest, why are these sites being taken down? I use gogoanime for all my viewing. Can't really find a better free one. |
| My opinion on the matter is this: long live anime piracy and internet freedom. |
| One die, one born. It's a cycle. As long as the internet exists, it cannot die. |
| For me, as long as I have these four sites available for me, I'll be fine!: gogoanimes.com watchcartoononline.io 9anime.to anime1.com |
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| Naaaah at least in Italy we only use streaming websites because we don't license basically nothing so the fansubs are still a thing here. |
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| r/animepiracy keeps lists and it doesn't seem like it's lacking for streaming sites - a couple don't work but most are still available or are being replaced as they go. compared to live action american stuff, anime seems easier to find for me since maybe it's a bit more niche to aim to shut down immediately over your big american network stuff here |
| My crunchy croll didn't work. They said, this PV/Video not avaible in your country |
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| I'm still pissed masterani got shut down. They had the best UI and community. I didn't even get to become a mod there T_T Well there are many pirated sites popping up all the time so its not problem. My problem is with the quality of the website. Masterani had the best website out of all of them. No ads anywhere, except for the players. It was perfect. Also the community was small and not cancerous unlike some other websites. |
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| One can only hope, one can only hope. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
Kagami said: Curte-sensei said: These are pirate sites. They had to shut down due to copyright issues. Hopefully paid sites will prevail. This. I for one support the closure of piracy sites. I can't say I don't do it myself so I can't be a hypocrite, but I realize how lucky I am to be able to watch anime free. Piracy sites closing would help the medium. It would help the medium? What kind of shit are you smoking? |
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AnimeFreak-San said: stop being cheap and get a crunchyroll account or score some good deals on anime dvds/blue rays. Sorry, but I'm not paying for a garbage service that's worse than the free alternatives in every way possible. |
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Nerdanimefan1992 said: I huge number of anime websites have been blocked by the Australian government Really? Good thing I moved countries a year ago. |
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Kagami said: Curte-sensei said: These are pirate sites. They had to shut down due to copyright issues. Hopefully paid sites will prevail. This. I for one support the closure of piracy sites. I can't say I don't do it myself so I can't be a hypocrite, but I realize how lucky I am to be able to watch anime free. Piracy sites closing would help the medium. It only helps the medium if there are actual better official means of watching anime in place. Time and time again it's been shown that the reason people pirate isn't primarily because of being ungrateful cheapskates, it's because the rights holders are failing to provide easy means for people to get the products. You live in America so understandably to you everything is conveniently available and affordable. But take a second to get out of your ivory tower and consider the rest of the world, most of us don't have the same luxury you do. So what do you think happens if they crank down on pirate sites? I doubt I have to spell it out to you, but it won't be the medium seeing any sudden surges in profits. |
Akashh said: Can't believe people actually prefer streaming websites they just rip from horrible subs,nyaa and the quality doesn't look same as download ones. As the person above said just learn to download from nyaa and torrents. I have some issues with this anti download movement by the torrenting faction. What people miss is that using torrent includes the option/possibility of actively sharing, with which the user make themselves guilty of distributing licensed material. In some countries there have been massive legal attacks on torrenting users due to that. From a legal point of view downloading is much more safe. There the guilt is assymetricly distributed and only the uploader commits a crime. |
| I can not tell you much, since I do not know the subject very well. I only know that a site had been closed in my language like AnimeYT and JKanime. Of rest, it is not something that you can say .. |
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| No, though it's a shame Masterani.me was taken down. great site. |
Rachiba said: JK is still up for a very long long time, what are you smoking? (By the way I was planning to pass on this discussion but you made me actually comment something LOL, so, as am writing this comment, I'll plan on answering every comment here. ¡Saludos desde mi bello México!I can not tell you much, since I do not know the subject very well. I only know that a site had been closed in my language like AnimeYT and JKanime. Of rest, it is not something that you can say .. |
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| @TomatoSempai ¡Saludos desde mi Venezuela querida! Haha, nothing like that. I just heard from some acquaintances. Yes, we can confirm that AnimeYT was closed because that's where I downloaded my series. |
RachibaMar 7, 2019 11:44 AM
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| crunchyroll is shit, I was a sub for some years, but the thing is that they only upload shit. And as I live in sweden, I'm ofc needed to use the swedish server where crunchyroll had uploaded around 30 animes. And it didn't increase in the years I was a sub there. It woud be lovley if the retards coud make a site where you coud stream everything. instead of wasting time on shuting down streaming sites. It will awlays be one or another way to acces the illegal streaming sites. And it's sad that if you find a site you love and something happens with it. Woud be cool if ppl coud focus on the right things for once, like solve the the worlds problem and not try to ban anime in the world, sigh. |
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| But pirating japanese cartoons makes me feel HARDCORE nah but seriously i still support the industry by buying gundam model kits, that's good enough. |
| Illegal streaming, maybe. Legal streaming, no. It'll be around until the sun blows up |
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| Fuck streaming, I'll always download anime. |
| Life Is Short But Intense. |
| Hope not, no way I'm paying a subscription for broken sites like CrunchyRoll of Funimation. And they don't always have new shows, or very limited amounts of new shows, and the only way I could watch some older anime was by watching on streaming sites. |
| "Well, she's flatter than a pancake" -Mimi Alpacas |
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