| Unsure of it myself. I watch a whole lot of anime, but I can't really stand anything live-action from Japan. Which is a bit odd because I watch a whole lot of Chinese movies, although nothing adapted from an Anime or something. |
| I don't get it, I like live action dramas sure there are a few bad eggs here and there and sometimes it doesn't follow the sauce material to the bone but whatevs it's two different mediums so of course they are handled differently |
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Zapredon said: Most anime are unrealistic and over the top and when become live action, it just didn't do well and feel cringe. this anwsers it anime is good because is not real, if not we'd probally get cringy results |
| Idk, from what I know many japanese films are highly regarded by international critics and they have a rich tradition in that field. It's true that you don't hear a lot of good things about TV Series tho. |
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| Maybe most of movies and dramas are bad. I've watched a lot of this stuff and I can say there are nice adaptions. Also I have watched a lot of moves and dramas from shojo mangas and they are quite good: Nana, Parakiss, Honey and clover, Hana kimi and kimi ni todoke are examples. |
| Rurouni Kenshin did good you seem to be the only one who had a problem with it. Also it's not just the Japanese who are bad, Hollywood isn't any better from what we've seen. |
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DerpCat said: But you ignore many great films. Kurosawa is regarded as one of the greatest filmmakers of all time, period. He has an excellent filmography (Seven Samurai, Ran, Yojimbo, Throne of Blood among others). Takashi Miike also has some really good flicks under his belt, like Ichi the Killer, 13 Assassins and Audition. And isn't J-Horror generally regarded as being far better than a lot of Hollywood competition? I would like to add Dersu Uzala from Kurosawa, that movie is freaking astonishing. |
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Krystopher said: Why are the Japanese so bad at live action but good at anime? 2. because every comparison you made is something you'ee more used to seeing in animated form 1. because you're not used to watching Japanese live-action TV but you've watched at least 66 different anime series already |
| Avatar character is Gabriel from Gabriel DropOut. |
| You're talking about the Gantz movies, this is what the author of Gantz manga said about those kind of live-actions “Why are all of these poor, force-fit live-action adaptations of manga getting made? Because if you take a series with name recognition and cast a handsome actor in the lead role, even if the story and visuals are just whatever, tons of people will go see it. From the very first stages of these movies, no one is thinking about the hardcore fans of the series. Unless there’s more money to be made, no one is going to make these films.” It looks like you've only watched live-action adaptations of the most popular series, most of which are produced just for milking some extra money using big franchise names. There are many good original live-action movies and J-dramas, you just need to try out different stuff. ThatRazorGuy said: Sorry dude but I think you're watching the wrong movies. Some of the best films I have ever seen are from the land of the rising sun. Check out Confessions, which is probably the best film of the current decade thus far and Kurosawa's movies, which are among the all time greats. I agree. ...lol didn't notice the thread is so old |
JinbouSep 25, 2018 3:15 AM
| I have to agree that Korean cinema has been host to a lot of amazing films in the past two decades. I'd also have to agree that Japanese cinema's strongest assets are it's variety of drama films. I would also have added horror into the Japanese side a few years ago, but I've seen a lot fewer decent horror movies coming out. I did buy the bluray for I am a Hero recently, and I thought that was really good, same with Shin Godzilla... but yeah, pretty infrequent schedule of anything action oriented I'm interested in seeing from Japan. Generally, I like... 50s/60s Samurai & other period films 50s to early 2000s Kaiju movies 90s to early 2000s Horror Anything Toshiro Mifune Anything Takashi Miike Anything Beat Kitano Plus a sprinkling of dramas from different periods... Departures is absolutely amazing. Sorry to ramble, I've been drinking. |
| "More than the cherry blossoms, Inviting a wind to blow them away, I am wondering what to do, With the remaining springtime." -Asano Naganori |
| No matter how bad you think the Japanese live-action versions of anime are, they're still a virtual Masterpiece compared to the track record of Hollywood and anime. I now awaken your dormant memories of Dragonball Evolution that you had hoped to never recall ever again. |
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leonanime123 said: Older_than_dirt said: No matter how bad you think the Japanese live-action versions of anime are, they're still a virtual Masterpiece compared to the track record of Hollywood and anime. I now awaken your dormant memories of Dragonball Evolution that you had hoped to never recall ever again. AoT live action = DBE though... Besides, If you see Inception and Black Swan as spiritual successors of two anime movies, so US could adapt anime better than Japanese do... Besides, Hollywood has made great live-action adaptations of their manga, MCU, Nolan-verse I never did see all of Inception, and haven't seen Black Swan, and I'm also not familiar with what they are "spiritual successors" of, so I can't really comment on their adaptation quality. AoT live-action wasn't all that bad. They had to make an original ending, which is understandable, at least for me. I now present "The Last Airbender (2010)" as evidence #2, and Speed Racer (2008) as evidence #3. Sure, Mortal Kombat (a video game adaptation rather than anime) was pretty decent, but the sequel... evidence #4. The recent GitS movie is another example... cinematically it was pretty good, but they mucked up the story by changing a few details. Hollywood may have had a couple anime/manga adaptations that were ok, but the majority were flops. |
| You're never too old to watch anime. If I ever stop watching anime, check my pulse I'm likely dead. I wake up with coffee & anime, I go to sleep with coffee & anime. Sorry if my sarcasm is bad, it's not my first language. |
| bcoz... - japanasse actors or actresses lack of experience... but they good at voice acting - about special effect, yes.... they special effect are crap (almost nothing change since ultraman gaia aired)... the main trouble is... no field available. - staff, producer and director... |
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| That thread is 2 years old. And the obvious answer to OP is: stop watching shitty japanese movies? Do you legit expect anime and video game adaptations to be good? Lol. |
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| Having faith in live action shows like putting faith in a friend that had played you for good. |
| Japanese adaptations of anime/manga suck the same reason western adaptations of anime/manga suck - manga and anime are unsuitable for movie adaptation. To make a good live adaptation studio need: complete understanding of original, gigantic budget and tv-show format. I can imagine Game-of-Thrones-like live adaptation of FMA of Geass for example but that's not gonna happen in near furure. |
| @leonanime123 Well, koreans are showing Hollywood how to make revenge movies since decades, yet America still produces garbage like the latest adaptation of Ghost in the Shell. Don't expect good anime adaptations becoming the norm because it happened once in korea (^% |
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| Kenshin and Bleach live action was good. |
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| @leonanime123 Except a couple I didn't see, I find almost all the movies you mentionned horrible, barring Fury Road wich was an oasis in the very arid desert these last years have been in terms of action movies, and that I'd rank up there with the two first terminator movies in term of blending entertainment with an actual artistic vision and coherent themes. Even if Miller peppered his movie with useless slow-mo scenes for 3d goggles, the movie's visuals and imagery were coherent throughout and supported the themes nicely. Like c'mon, the Dark Knight with Christian Bale? Alias Poker-Face-from-Equilibrium? Lord of the Rings? Eeeeew. I'd rather rewatch Drive or Mud. And the bat's story is a weak revenge story. Spawn is the real deal (^: |
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leonanime123 said: KEIKAN said: I'd also have to agree that Japanese cinema's strongest assets are it's variety of drama films. I would also have added horror into the Japanese side a few years ago, but I've seen a lot fewer decent horror movies coming out. I did buy the bluray for I am a Hero recently, and I thought that was really good, same with Shin Godzilla... but yeah, pretty infrequent schedule of anything action oriented I'm interested in seeing from Japan. Sorry to cut something out, because I want to focus on certain things. What do you "variety of drama films"? Their modern mainstream drama films range from family drama, romance, and movies about very mundane and small things. Other countries like Korea and China (Hong Kong actually) has produced more drama from more genres (What are Japan's equivalents to Old Boy and Infernal Affairs?). And we are not being bringing up Hollywood drama. Sure, many Hollywood films do suck, but, as a whole, Hollywood are still on the top of the food chain, making drama films that tie into multiple genres, like Blade Runner 2049 (Personal drama + mind-blowing science opera+ great world building.) or The Dark Knight (Personal drama + crime thriller + manga live-action). They even manage to lose one of their most valuable asset, horror films. Frankly,the quality of their horror films have declined tremendously. The brand "J-horror" has lost its appeal and credibility. What's worse is their obsession for remake, reboot, and crossover (Kyako vs Sadako). Thoughts? I understand what you're saying, I've thought many of the same things. However, don't be too quick to disregard some of the Japanese drama films as "mundane." For example, check out just about any film by Kore-eda Hirokazu. He specializes in creating very focused family or human condition type films. Nobody Knows is an especially excellent example of his work. I hadn't realized that Miike is getting a bad rep in Japan. However, the man makes movies at such an incredible rate, I wouldn't doubt he puts out some bad films. Seriously, he's directed a TON of movies. Could the King of Bad Movies title be a little misunderstood? Something like an Eastern Bruce Campbell? Lol. |
| "More than the cherry blossoms, Inviting a wind to blow them away, I am wondering what to do, With the remaining springtime." -Asano Naganori |
| I haven’t read through this thread, and the answer is that these are almost always soulless, artless cash grab adaptations that are quickly farted out (like much of anime,) but an interesting part of this is that Japanese cinema used to be more respected decades ago. Akira Kurosawa is considered one of the masters of film and made several bonafide timeless classics. There are also other well respected (old) greats like Ozu, Mizoguchi, Oshima, Imamura, and more recently Miike. But then again, Hirokazu Kore-eda’s Shoplifters won the Palme d’Or this year, so it may not be all bad. Then again, there’s tons of old forgotten bad stuff so maybe it’s always sucked aside from a few real talents. You should watch House (Hausu! Directed by Nobuhiko Obayashi,) it’s shitty, cheap, ridiculous Japanese live action that uses it’s cheap shittiness as a strength and a weapon. It’s weaponized shit. Fun fact, it was pitched as a Japanese Jaws, and it failed most spectacularly. P.S. Battle Royale is great. |
GoldNautilusSep 25, 2018 4:18 AM
| 99% of anime is pure garbage, it's just that we tend to forget about these and remember the ones we like. 99% of live-action Japanese series are also garbage, but because they're butchering that 1% of anime that we liked (the ones popular enough to get a LA adaptation) if feels much worse. But there are good LA adaptations out there, Rurouni Kenshin for example. There's also the fact that Japanese acting is still heavily influenced by traditional theater (like Kabuki), which makes it seem overly dramatic and artificial to us. |
| so netflix live action is better than japan live action ??? |
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| @leonanime123 I'm saying Fury Road was an excellent film directed by someone who knows how to hold a camera. Sorry if "barring" wasn't the appropriate word, I get audacious with english sometimes, but it's not my native language (^% Yeah yeah, we're talking about the same Dark Knight. Saw it a while ago and my memories aren't too fresh, but it wasn't particularly inventive visually, and Christian Bale is seriously an insipid actor (sorry for him, I guess directors are to blame too). I recently saw the sequel tho, and it was peppered from start to finish with what can only be called poor acting. Christian Bale is boring enough, but Marion Cotillard's death scene managed to become memeastic, and it's to blame on the director more than the actress tbh (even if she's... meh at best). So yeah, Christopher Nolan. I'm not impressed by the name, should I? |
DeathkoSep 25, 2018 6:24 AM
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| I watched some horror Japanese films like Ju-on and Ring. I don't think that are bad. In my opinion, Japan is better in terms of horror films than Americans. |
| All weebs creatures of the galaxy, hear this message. Those of you who listen will not be struck by western animation. You will no longer know hunger, nor pain. Your Anime have come to lead you now. Our strength shall serve as a luminous sun toward which all intelligence may blossom. And the impervious shelter beneath which you will prosper. However, for those who refuse our offer and cling to their western animation ways… For you, there will be great wrath. |
leonanime123 said: UrbanSpaceman said: Japanese adaptations of anime/manga suck the same reason western adaptations of anime/manga suck - manga and anime are unsuitable for movie adaptation. To make a good live adaptation studio need: complete understanding of original, gigantic budget and tv-show format. I can imagine Game-of-Thrones-like live adaptation of FMA of Geass for example but that's not gonna happen in near furure. It's better to let Hollywood direct shows like FMA ... and we'll get garbage like Ghost in the shell - mix of random scenes taken from anime just because "they are cool" and the story that makes no sense. And Hollywood always simplify the story because they think that typical viewer is dumb. |
| The Gundam movie might be the first good one to come out, it's being monitored closely to make sure no one screws up. |
leonanime123 said: However, if you see Inception as a spiritual successor of Paprika and Black Swan as a reimagination of Perfect Blue, then you can say Hollywood, as long as they really care about their work, can make good anime adaptions. You can't, that's not what adaptation means. |
| Because they can't find actors hot enough to play those anime characters that have Westernized beauty standards. The live actions usually turn me off because the actors look nothing like the characters. |
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leonanime123 said: And MCU and Nolan-verse show that Hollywood is far better than Japan in adapting comic books. Yeah, Hollywood has done well with Superhero movies, I can't deny that, but they aren't live-action versions of an existing anime. (The topic set in the OP) Just because Hollywood can throw a multi-million dollar budget at something and create stunning visuals & special effects, doesn't mean they get the story right. |
| You're never too old to watch anime. If I ever stop watching anime, check my pulse I'm likely dead. I wake up with coffee & anime, I go to sleep with coffee & anime. Sorry if my sarcasm is bad, it's not my first language. |
leonanime123 said: I'm not saying that Hollywood can definitely make good anime live-action films; I'm saying that now there is no reason to believe that Hollywood definitely CAN'T make anime live-action. Until they actually DO make a good live-action anime adaptation, there is every reason to believe they CAN'T make one. |
| You're never too old to watch anime. If I ever stop watching anime, check my pulse I'm likely dead. I wake up with coffee & anime, I go to sleep with coffee & anime. Sorry if my sarcasm is bad, it's not my first language. |
| Because they are cramming 24+ episode (500 in some case) into a 2 hour film so they skip characterization and all that good shit |
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