Tokyo Ghoul:re Episode 6 Discussion

Crowney said:
For some reasons, the episode that seems to be liked by most people is the episode I disliked the most.

The Kaneki / Owl fight was super confusing, the unravel song didn't match anything, some important parts of the fight were cut, Hinami's entrance is forgettable.

In my opinion, this was a terrible episode. I did like the first five episode, but this one was just a big mess.

There was a feeling in the first season, that you even find in root A. A kind of frightening and anxious vibe. Right now, I don't feel any of this. This is just insipid.

shreeman_shakthi said:
where can i watch it in india??

anesubt said:
The issue with this season is that no one gives AF about this Haise Sasaki guy. All the time we invested in Season 1 and 2 to get involved with the main character is basically thrown out the window and dangled like a carrot on a stick. If this season was a standalone anime I GUARANTEE you that the score and the view on this anime would be an overwhelming 4/10. The only reason we watch is the hope of a character and plot that we thought was a 7/10 or 8/10 which is why we stay and trudge along through this awful plot. I dont care if it was in the manga, this is a show, what works in a book doesnt work in a show which is why shows aren't ever the same (obviously).

That is the true sum of this show right now whether you agree or not, if you looked at this season as a standalone piece, unrelated/never having seen tokyo ghoul, a majority of you would call it a piece of **** anime.

tearofmankind said:
The fact that they used Unravel like this is a testament to the fact that this show is really hopeless.



Yes. The new characters are way too one-dimensional. A silent leader, a lazy girl, an emo that want be badass, a "hey, oniki" type of guy. But this is not the biggest problem. With Kaneki we were discovering a new setting, a new world and different things. Thanks to discovering those things the main characters have developed. Right now we know everything: CCG is fighting ghouls, The Owl is the strongest type of ghoul, the highest rank of ghoul is SS and so on.

It feels like a conclusion from the previous season but with totally new characters. This is such a stupid idea.

Just like the fact that CCG has Arima. Should not he be there to own all the ghouls? He is such a deus-ex machina character. Did they started to raid ghouls without their strongest investigator? IT IS FRIGGIN RETARDED.

This is really written like a shounen. Arima is waiting for main enemy to appear. Then he will attack him saying: "You finally showed up, fight me". Fucking atrocious.

dasprn said:

So its an experimental creation?

Jacksworld said:


Yes he's like kaneki just with a different source ghoul for his ghoul half.

Himawari9 said:


There is a reason Arima can't participate in this mission that will be revealed in the next episode. And you really know everything? The Clowns' goal, the Washuu's secret, who is Kamishiro Rize, Dr. Kanou's goal and why does he keep creating one-eyed ghouls, who is the one-eyed King? And Owl is not the strongest type of ghoul, it is just a nickname based on their kakuja/kagune or mask like Kaneki's centipede, Ayato's rabbit, Yomo's raven or Uta's no-face, Takizawa's nickname is the English word "Owl" since his kakuja resemble the One-eyed owl, BTW, Eto and Yoshimura's nickname is "Fukurou" the Japanese word for owl unlike Takizawa. Highest rank of ghoul is not SS but SSS which only 3 ghouls have this rating. The Quinx is more complex than you think, ranging from Urie's desire for achievement to Mutsuki's tragic/crazy past, Shirazu's love for his sister and Saiko who was literally sold off to CCG by her mother against her will hence her lack of motivation although the anime did fail to convey some of that information.
You all need to be patient instead of keeping wanting Kaneki back. His life as Haise is necessary to the future.

EarlCiel said:
Ok...so I'm going to put my thoughts here about the show so far. I'm someone who strictly watches the anime, so obviously like many there are a lot of things that are probably passing through me right now. My posts tend to be long but if you care to read, here I go:

I think that Tokyo Ghoul is special as a seinen psychological show that explores areas that few shows would want to touch like what it even means to have humanity. Being human does not necessarily give you more humanity than a ghoul when both kill for power, for money, etc.

This series explores these separate worlds and gives the viewers perspectives of both sides. The first season being the ghouls, and this season we are able to see it from the perspective of an investigator. That is, in times of peace but in war it shows this battle, this chaos that shows there can be no peaceful world where both sides coexist...so they aim to obliterate the other. And it is this endless cycle. In terms of this season, this battle that continues outside goes on inside Sasaki as well, or at least this is how I interpret it and to me I am seeing how perhaps he rejects the ghoul side of him because of the emptiness he felt when he was a ghoul and literally lost all his sanity. Perhaps he saw no hope for him at the end of it, so this new identity was created in hopes of finding purpose, hope once again.I feel like Sasaki remembers or has some memory of the feeling of emptiness he had in the past and clings onto the things in the present to fill in the void he talks about in this episode. Yet, his past was 'strong' and in order to be strong he sacrificed his humanity and this is not something he wants to go back to.

What leads me to this conclusion is that Haise is constantly saying that he cherishes his team and his current memories because they are the reason he keeps fighting and fights for what he believes in. Perhaps there was this loss of purpose as Kaneki and subconsciously he does not want to go back. As a psychology major, I find the psychological aspects of Kaneki's character development very interesting and that is what keeps me hooked onto the show as well as the action. So, the problem I have with the show (lack of 'direction' it seems) is done intentionally but for someone who only watches the anime I think there are so many things that have been left out so and it feels incomplete. Now, the problem I have which is a problem for me right now at this moment (since I don't know what happens next so don't come after me for not knowing) is that it seems to be...directionless with senseless battles that do not really seem to be leading up to anything. I could argue that at the end of season 1 it was the same. It lead to his end, and now at this 'new beginning' Sasaki seems to be heading back. The question I have in my mind when I watch a series is...so what? What is the author trying to convey through these themes, the conflict? Is it that power corrupts you to the point of Kaneki? Is it that perhaps people remind you who you are and it is not your past that defines you? At many times I feel this show is left for interpretation but may even simulate how things happen in real life. It seems like it is going nowhere. So because of this I get this unsatisfactory feeling the more I learn about the Tokyo Ghoul world...don't get me wrong it definitely intrigues me which is why I keep watching. I wonder if the manga is the same (I do hear it is...) and I really do want to read it but don't know if it's worth investing in.

EarlCiel said:
Ok...so I'm going to put my thoughts here about the show so far. I'm someone who strictly watches the anime, so obviously like many there are a lot of things that are probably passing through me right now. My posts tend to be long but if you care to read, here I go:

I think that Tokyo Ghoul is special as a seinen psychological show that explores areas that few shows would want to touch like what it even means to have humanity. Being human does not necessarily give you more humanity than a ghoul when both kill for power, for money, etc.

This series explores these separate worlds and gives the viewers perspectives of both sides. The first season being the ghouls, and this season we are able to see it from the perspective of an investigator. That is, in times of peace but in war it shows this battle, this chaos that shows there can be no peaceful world where both sides coexist...so they aim to obliterate the other. And it is this endless cycle. In terms of this season, this battle that continues outside goes on inside Sasaki as well, or at least this is how I interpret it and to me I am seeing how perhaps he rejects the ghoul side of him because of the emptiness he felt when he was a ghoul and literally lost all his sanity. Perhaps he saw no hope for him at the end of it, so this new identity was created in hopes of finding purpose, hope once again.I feel like Sasaki remembers or has some memory of the feeling of emptiness he had in the past and clings onto the things in the present to fill in the void he talks about in this episode. Yet, his past was 'strong' and in order to be strong he sacrificed his humanity and this is not something he wants to go back to.

What leads me to this conclusion is that Haise is constantly saying that he cherishes his team and his current memories because they are the reason he keeps fighting and fights for what he believes in. Perhaps there was this loss of purpose as Kaneki and subconsciously he does not want to go back. As a psychology major, I find the psychological aspects of Kaneki's character development very interesting and that is what keeps me hooked onto the show as well as the action. So, the problem I have with the show (lack of 'direction' it seems) is done intentionally but for someone who only watches the anime I think there are so many things that have been left out so and it feels incomplete. Now, the problem I have which is a problem for me right now at this moment (since I don't know what happens next so don't come after me for not knowing) is that it seems to be...directionless with senseless battles that do not really seem to be leading up to anything. I could argue that at the end of season 1 it was the same. It lead to his end, and now at this 'new beginning' Sasaki seems to be heading back. The question I have in my mind when I watch a series is...so what? What is the author trying to convey through these themes, the conflict? Is it that power corrupts you to the point of Kaneki? Is it that perhaps people remind you who you are and it is not your past that defines you? At many times I feel this show is left for interpretation but may even simulate how things happen in real life. It seems like it is going nowhere. So because of this I get this unsatisfactory feeling the more I learn about the Tokyo Ghoul world...don't get me wrong it definitely intrigues me which is why I keep watching. I wonder if the manga is the same (I do hear it is...) and I really do want to read it but don't know if it's worth investing in.

Khyros said:
Are they going to explain what happened at the end of tg root a or show the fight between kaneki and arima ?
And please manga readers tell me that kaneki is coming back instead of haise.

shayed__ said:



hahaha same unravel got me hyped

Himawari9 said:

There is a reason Arima can't participate in this mission that will be revealed in the next episode. And you really know everything? The Clowns' goal, the Washuu's secret, who is Kamishiro Rize, Dr. Kanou's goal and why does he keep creating one-eyed ghouls, who is the one-eyed King? And Owl is not the strongest type of ghoul, it is just a nickname based on their kakuja/kagune or mask like Kaneki's centipede, Ayato's rabbit, Yomo's raven or Uta's no-face, Takizawa's nickname is the English word "Owl" since his kakuja resemble the One-eyed owl, BTW, Eto and Yoshimura's nickname is "Fukurou" the Japanese word for owl unlike Takizawa. Highest rank of ghoul is not SS but SSS which only 3 ghouls have this rating. The Quinx is more complex than you think, ranging from Urie's desire for achievement to Mutsuki's tragic/crazy past, Shirazu's love for his sister and Saiko who was literally sold off to CCG by her mother against her will hence her lack of motivation although the anime did fail to convey some of that information.
You all need to be patient instead of keeping wanting Kaneki back. His life as Haise is necessary to the future.

Himawari9 said:

There is a reason Arima can't participate in this mission that will be revealed in the next episode. And you really know everything? The Clowns' goal, the Washuu's secret, who is Kamishiro Rize, Dr. Kanou's goal and why does he keep creating one-eyed ghouls, who is the one-eyed King? And Owl is not the strongest type of ghoul, it is just a nickname based on their kakuja/kagune or mask like Kaneki's centipede, Ayato's rabbit, Yomo's raven or Uta's no-face, Takizawa's nickname is the English word "Owl" since his kakuja resemble the One-eyed owl, BTW, Eto and Yoshimura's nickname is "Fukurou" the Japanese word for owl unlike Takizawa. Highest rank of ghoul is not SS but SSS which only 3 ghouls have this rating. The Quinx is more complex than you think, ranging from Urie's desire for achievement to Mutsuki's tragic/crazy past, Shirazu's love for his sister and Saiko who was literally sold off to CCG by her mother against her will hence her lack of motivation although the anime did fail to convey some of that information.
You all need to be patient instead of keeping wanting Kaneki back. His life as Haise is necessary to the future.

anesubt said:
The issue with this season is that no one gives AF about this Haise Sasaki guy. All the time we invested in Season 1 and 2 to get involved with the main character is basically thrown out the window and dangled like a carrot on a stick. If this season was a standalone anime I GUARANTEE you that the score and the view on this anime would be an overwhelming 4/10. The only reason we watch is the hope of a character and plot that we thought was a 7/10 or 8/10 which is why we stay and trudge along through this awful plot. I dont care if it was in the manga, this is a show, what works in a book doesnt work in a show which is why shows aren't ever the same (obviously).

wex89 said:
They should had kept song for Extremination arc, Realyl underwhelming season so far, too fast too many uninteresting characters, and they should had ended s2 like manga , there would not been so many question for people who don't know what's happening.

ShadowMage612 said:
O SI HE TEO, SI HE TEO, SUMO SIKU NI WA...

tearofmankind said:


I am anime only watcher so: I do not even know that there is Clowns` group. Was not presented at any point. The same about Waashu and so on.

I have never stated that there are not good things to come. I am sure there are some good points if there were some good points in the previous series(the same manga writer so kinda self-explanatory).
I just stated that after those 6 episodes there is nothing of importance to the world building at all. After 6 episodes of Season 1 I was totally engaged with the characters and left wanting to know more about all the setting. This time? Not even close.

BTW it is SSS okay, does not matter, you understood what I meant.

Himawari9 said:

I see. Tokyo Ghoul :RE ignore Season 2 Root A, make it like it never existed so there will be a lot of important things anime-only don't know like the Clown, Kanou,Rize etc. Even the author recommended to read the first manga before starting this season so you should read it but it is your choice. The Clown group was revealed in the end of the first manga before Tokyo Ghoul: Re, the members are Uta, Itori, Nico, Roma and Souta. The Washuu are the clan that created CCG and their members are top investigators with the CCG chairman is Washuu Tsuneyoshi .
This anime adaption is not very good though since it seems they decided to focus on the action and skipped some of characters backstory and development.