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Mar 14, 2018 4:17 PM

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Not just the fanservice, everything about the show except for the art is quite trite.
02 is a high-tier waifu tho, so there's that
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Aesthete18 said:
Love the action, graphics and plot. Fan service cheapens the whole thing. Does the show get better?

Maybe you should do yourself (and everyone else) a favor and quit anime if franxx has too much fanservice for you.
Mar 14, 2018 4:21 PM
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Fan service is... ruining it for you? its a show where piloting mechs is a blatant analogy to sex, and every element of the setting has double meaning relating to sex. I mean, what were you expecting? its almost like saying that fan service is ruining your ecchi anime experience or that blood is ruining your Hellsing experience.
Mar 14, 2018 5:16 PM

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Mar 14, 2018 5:31 PM

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There isn't even that much fanservice.

Mar 14, 2018 6:49 PM
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The fanservice plays a pretty important role, at least in the first few episodes, it doesn't really cheapen anything. And it's not even really heavy, is it really bothersome to anyone?

The series, imo, gets bit more interesting, but it shifts little more towards relationships and stuff instead of piloting the mechas.


also the whole comparison to evangelion is hugely exaggerated

Yeah it's kinda bothersome because certain things seem added just for that sake. Like the way they ride and the need for a kiss for him to pilot? Some stuff is okay though like the knight in Konosuba and her s&m fetish, that was hilarious if it's even considered fan service.

You've watched the whole thing? You enjoyed it?

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Cool story bro. I didn't know I clicked on your blog by accident. How do I get out of here and back to the MAL forums?


I'm sorry but what?

NierGenesis said:
The lack of fighting and the poorly written drama is what is ruining it for me.


Interesting. I thought there'd be more fighting once he was able to "get it up".

Deknijff said:
Fan service cheapens nothing

Your problem probably lies along the lines you can't take it seriously

But this is by the artist of To Love Ru so like. What did you expect dude


Cheapen is a subjective term so yes it does cheapen it for me.I guess my problem is I don't know who or what that is. I'm just a casual anime watcher, I don't know anything.

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Eh, I wouldn't say that the fanservice played "a big role" in the early episodes. It doesn't in the latter ones either. It's an added element to spice things up, that only superficially adheres to the themes of the show (because it's all a huge metaphor for sex, the series has to portray unnatural shots of butts and breasts... yeah, no, it doesn't work like that). Just like... every fanservice shot in a show that is not about fanservice primarily. However it is not THAT big and it does not overshadow the rest of the elements so you can enjoy the series even if you dislike the occasional (and not that explicit) ecchi in it.


I feel the opposite actually. I don't mind the occasional ass in the face shot like B: The Beginning, a very serious show had one of those for comedic purposes. It doesn't affect anything and it's out of context. This show however, seems to be written with fan service in mind, like the way they ride, the MC being able to fly by kissing, etc.

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I didn't know AD was your personal blog :/

Fanservice? I find its autistic sex references, piloting mechas with one's ass, the completely artificial attempts at being more profound and the cast of characters, which is like the Sun - it hurts to look at it, to be the problem here, but ok.

DoubleMangekyo said:
So drop it and move on with your life if you don't want fanservice. There's plenty of other anime out there. No one is forcing you to watch this one. How about going for a more standard mecha anime? Gundam is a thing.

Can we stop it with all the blog post threads?!

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Aesthete18 said:
It was going to be my intro to mecha anime (please don't suggest another :/)
Yes because clearly, the defining factor of a mecha anime is fanservice. That is the dumbest logi- no wait, it is about the same as the level of logic in every other anti-mecha comment I have heard on this website.


How exactly was I supposed to know that?
Thinking a little usually helps, ya know. The way they are positioned in the mechs is a pretty easy to spot, in fact outright blatant and in-your-face metaphor for sex.

What's a trigger show? Idk what that is
It is an animation studio, they did not make this show on their own, but they co-operated with A-1 Picture (another studio) to make it.

Anyways... nice blog.

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Its a Trigger show...you should have expected it
A) Studio Trigger only does the animation from what I know, the story and so on has more to do with whoever A-1 hired for that. Either it is not a Trigger show, or to be more precise, not a just Studio Trigger show.
B)Studio Trigger =/= Fanservice, there are shows they did that had none, as show in the posts above.
C)The OP saw only 20+ anime, do you really expect him to know that?


What's all this about a blog? Does someone just say it and everyone think that's cool and jump on it? Like a trendy thing to say?

I'm not much of a MAL user, I only come here looking for recommendations or need something explained but I find this place does have a bunch of rude what I can only assume to be kids. I'm just a casual anime watcher and even more casual forumer. Please keep that in mind when you project some of your real life inadequacies and be sarcastic on a forum.


Mech has never appealed to me and I just tried this out since it was a new anime (I like new stuff because graphics). One main thing for me is character and I like all the characters even the annoying school mate, that's rare. Plus the story has potential even if it's "generic" for anime vets. So I came here asking if there's more of the same in terms of fan service and is it part of the plot rather than off the cuff comedic purposes.

Lastly, @EcchiKnightDarek dumbest logic? What exactly did you understand from that quote? Don't mean to make you look like an idiot but I meant that I'm not interested in mecha anime, I just tried this one. I'm not implying that every mecha anime is fan service based smh..
Mar 14, 2018 6:55 PM
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I absolutely hate the art of Glass and topped has too many eps for my liking.



Only 27 episodes,doe :P You've completed Death Note too and it has a whopping 10 episodes more.

You're right! Idk how I did that to be honest. It was early days my anime stamina was high haha. I only really look for 12 ep anime these days. I absolutely hate dropping or stalling an anime so I try to find small ones to binge watch.

That aside, Toppa is a little dated and I'm picky when it comes to graphics :/ I'm still superficial since I'm somewhat new to anime.

Anything else you'd like to suggest? Preferably new and short XD
Mar 14, 2018 6:57 PM

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I don't mind it being sexual; I mind it being vulgar and degrading.
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Mar 14, 2018 7:00 PM
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EcchiKnightDarek said:
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Lastly, @EcchiKnightDarek dumbest logic? What exactly did you understand from that quote? Don't mean to make you look like an idiot but I meant that I'm not interested in mecha anime, I just tried this one. I'm not implying that every mecha anime is fan service based smh..
That you decided to not watch more mecha because of Darling in the Franxxx, what else is there to understand? You say you like everything but the fanservice, and then that you will not watch mecha again, what conclusion is that supposed to lead me to? That it is you being disappointed with... what exactly? What are your reasons for not watching mecha anime anymore?

I'd rather you didn't understand anything and refrain from replying here. Thank you very much.

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I don't mind it being sexual; I mind it being vulgar and degrading.


That's a better way of putting it than how I said it.
Mar 14, 2018 7:04 PM

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@Aesthete18 There is a difference between doggy style piloting and other sexual references and innuendos in story, and awkward and revealing camera placement that prioritizes the view of the spectator and therefore happens outside of that same narrative. Darling does the first for the sexual metaphor and the second for the fanservice, and one does not lose meaning necessarily without the other. That's what I mean with the show not needing the fanservice to convey its narrative message, and the fanservice itself serving a rather superficial role that could easily be removed and the show would not lose meaning or focus.
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EcchiKnightDarek said:
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I'd rather you didn't understand anything and refrain from replying here. Thank you very much.
If you would want that then you shouldn't have posted this thread in the first place. Guess nothing to prove me wrong, what did I even expect?

I'm sorry, I didn't know you're the only reader on this forum. Had that been the case, yeah I shouldn't have posted it but since there's thousands(?) of people here then yes I should have posted it. Thanks for the feedback, move along now.
Mar 14, 2018 7:38 PM

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Compared to a series like KLK, it feels really tame to me. XD



Mar 14, 2018 7:42 PM
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Compared to a series like KLK, it feels really tame to me. XD

I'm not well versed in fan servicing world so I can imagine so. To me this is already bad XD
Mar 14, 2018 7:48 PM
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I felt more disgusted trying to watch Kill la Kill (which is why it ain't on my list... I could not do it).

Personally I think Darling is very tasteful about its fanservice, considering that Trigger is one of the studios working on it. I don't watch much mecha, so I can't comment on the uniqueness, but I still stand by my belief that nothing brings anything new to the table so I couldn't care less.

I'll check off Kill la Kill from my list. Thanks for the info.
Mar 14, 2018 9:10 PM

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they use butt controls, what where you expecting
Mar 14, 2018 10:02 PM
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I'm kind of a suckered for fan service heavy shows. Gurren Lagann and Kill la Kill come to mind.
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EcchiKnightDarek said:
Aesthete18 said:

I'd rather you didn't understand anything and refrain from replying here. Thank you very much.
If you would want that then you shouldn't have posted this thread in the first place. Guess nothing to prove me wrong, what did I even expect?


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Mar 14, 2018 10:52 PM

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Don't like fanservice, don't watch then

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Mar 14, 2018 11:23 PM
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Don't like fanservice, don't watch then

ez?

Insightful. Thanks.
Mar 15, 2018 12:01 AM

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Fan service? Please point me any other fan service traits in this anime series.

Cockpit scene? Bathroom scene? What else? Bouncing boobs and bottoms? When? Where?

In the series, except cockpit scenery, there isn't fan service moments for the sake of fan servicing. Every fan service-resembling scene comes with a serious story progress. Actually, we haven't seen usual amount fan servicing in this series.
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Only 27 episodes,doe :P You've completed Death Note too and it has a whopping 10 episodes more.

You're right! Idk how I did that to be honest. It was early days my anime stamina was high haha. I only really look for 12 ep anime these days. I absolutely hate dropping or stalling an anime so I try to find small ones to binge watch.

That aside, Toppa is a little dated and I'm picky when it comes to graphics :/ I'm still superficial since I'm somewhat new to anime.

Anything else you'd like to suggest? Preferably new and short XD


think the visuals wouldn't kill you,again,you even survived the older Death NoteThat aside they're really fantastic,and I can't come up with many shows from the last decade which can up with that,if any at all.

If you want a different mecha then I'm definitely the wrong person for that.

But I could recommend some others :P

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Mar 15, 2018 1:06 AM
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the ecchi is not even that erotic to begin with lol but the manga version is full on nudity though from what i heard and seen
Mar 15, 2018 1:21 AM

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I'm definitely in the distinct minority that thinks that 02 is trash-tier waifu. There are a number of better female characters from this season imo.
Mar 15, 2018 1:22 PM

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Oh boy, here we go again...is the first thing I thought when I saw this. This show doesn't even have that much fanservice, and why is it that, apparently, as soon as something has fanservice, it is automatically bad and can't be taken seriously? Why is it that a single aspect of a show ruins the whole package for people every single time? What is it about the human body that disturbs people so much that they can't stand the sight of it, even if it is drawn and not real? I keep seeing this "fanservice ruined the show" argument over and over again for so many shows, and I simply can't comprehend it.
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Oh boy, here we go again...is the first thing I thought when I saw this. This show doesn't even have that much fanservice, and why is it that, apparently, as soon as something has fanservice, it is automatically bad and can't be taken seriously? Why is it that a single aspect of a show ruins the whole package for people every single time? What is it about the human body that disturbs people so much that they can't stand the sight of it, even if it is drawn and not real? I keep seeing this "fanservice ruined the show" argument over and over again for so many shows, and I simply can't comprehend it.

Here's the thing, everybody has their own preferences. Mind blowing right?
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My first post in this community. Yay me.

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So yeah, this show really puts me off for a few reasons. The fanservice element in controlling the mechs is very blatant and just silly. It's like Shinmai or HxH, where the writing created an excuse for the fanservice. I can deal with fanservice if it makes sense for it to be there, and if the story carries it. FranXX is coming up short for me here though, since 6 episodes in, I don't have a clear idea of what's really going on story-wise. There's literally no world-building to speak of.
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My first post in this community. Yay me.

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So yeah, this show really puts me off for a few reasons. The fanservice element in controlling the mechs is very blatant and just silly. It's like Shinmai or HxH, where the writing created an excuse for the fanservice. I can deal with fanservice if it makes sense for it to be there, and if the story carries it. FranXX is coming up short for me here though, since 6 episodes in, I don't have a clear idea of what's really going on story-wise. There's literally no world-building to speak of.

Well said. I feel the same and I'm only 3 episodes in. It doesn't get any better does it?
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Well said. I feel the same and I'm only 3 episodes in. It doesn't get any better does it?

Eh... What happened in the next few episodes really just created more questions for me. I was looking for an explanation of why what was happening was happening.

So far, really, 02 is the franchise's sole redeeming quality at the moment. She's by no means a mind-blowing or ground-breaking character, or exceptional, but she's fun to watch. Tia Ballard did a good job with her. That's about the extent of it.
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Not this again.

Guys, I don't know why people complain about fanservice in anime. I can understand if people complain about harems, if they dislike one male character getting all the attention from most of the majority female cast, but fanservice ?

As long as I can see multiple couples flirting with each other with many male characters getting their own loyal girls, I not only don't mind fanservice but actually enjoy it. Therefore, it's nothing to complain about.
I am someone that would like to watch a Harem Anime with 2 male leads that each gets their own harem company of girls from the main cast. For example, 1st male lead gets a company of 4 girls and 2nd male lead gets 2-3 girls etc.
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yikes for real? i might think twice about watching it then cause fanservice is not really my thing
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yikes for real? i might think twice about watching it then cause fanservice is not really my thing
Not your thing? Your forum setup doesn't say so.
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Fool you need to harden yourself up with some
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In Kill la Kill the faservice was an essential part of the show and after getting immersed in the story it didn't bother me that much I got used to it but darlings fanservice is just there and how they get so serious in that piloting position and how it is shown that they have the mentality of a 10 year old the fanservice is even more distasteful.

Like seriously



But it all comes down to preference in the end some might like it some might not.
Mar 17, 2018 12:24 AM

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Fan service the only redeeming part of Darling in the Franxx for me.
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Mar 17, 2018 12:10 PM
The fanservice of Kill la Kill was ALMOST NEVER out of place. It's feels natural and funny. Darling in the Franxx tries so hard to put fanservice for the 'shock' factor.
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I agree with you, the fanservice is terrible, and I don't usually even mind fanservice. But I think it's going to continue to be like this until the very end. I'm personally sticking with it regardless, because it's a pretty cool and interesting anime :)
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I think we all know it was going to be an anime with some fanservice after watching the first episode. Fan service is never really necessary for the advancement of any story but at least the anime showed us what it was going to be about in the first episode instead of just throwing it in there as part of the animators checklist of things to include in an anime. I think its alright because both the first episode and second episode showed us what we should expect as a viewer. at least it didn't go Evangelion where the scenes don't add anything and actually hamper the experience, like introducing a main character with a panty shot.
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I've only watched some scenes on youtube but isn't this anime's very prupose to show boobs and titts while pretending to be about mecha?

Syaing you like its plot is like saying you like how that plumber fixed the pipe in a video on pornhub
Mar 17, 2018 2:28 PM

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I don't know what is the problem with a little fanservice in anime, i think some anime fans are bunch of prude virgins that live in the 1920's, where if you see an women's ankle you deserve to be shot dead.

The show is being a bit slow on getting into the real shit but this is the build up episodes and the "fanservice" and all that teenage sexual charged stuff it is in order to build characters and story, because after all it is a bunch of pubescent teens paired with a different gender and fighting monsters in giant robots, if there is no sexual tension and no "fanservice" in this anime then something is wrong!

But what the hell do i know, right?
Mar 17, 2018 2:44 PM

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Fan service cheapens nothing

Your problem probably lies along the lines you can't take it seriously

But this is by the artist of To Love Ru so like. What did you expect dude


Except it's not by him. It's an anime original and the only thing he's currently doing is adapting it into a manga.

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Nemesis92 said:
Oh boy, here we go again...is the first thing I thought when I saw this. This show doesn't even have that much fanservice, and why is it that, apparently, as soon as something has fanservice, it is automatically bad and can't be taken seriously? Why is it that a single aspect of a show ruins the whole package for people every single time? What is it about the human body that disturbs people so much that they can't stand the sight of it, even if it is drawn and not real? I keep seeing this "fanservice ruined the show" argument over and over again for so many shows, and I simply can't comprehend it.

Here's the thing, everybody has their own preferences. Mind blowing right?

Nah, you're just close-minded. Be a little more open to things that you make you uncomfortable, because in reality, it most likely makes you uncomfortable because you don't understand it.
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I dont think fanservice is what DitF suffers from. Its that they still dont have relevant plot 11 episodes in, but they rather tease us with "you know this show is actually deep,
here have a piece of plot" followed by another 20 minutes of random stuff

That beeing said, the way they ride the mechas is indeed oversexualized. But all of this fits together, so Its nothing I would complain about.
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For me it's rather the opposite,Darling is one of the shows,where fanservice and character interaction is making the plot.

If you want action then you better drop it,cause watching for that aspect only doesn't seem worth it.

It was going to be my intro to mecha anime (please don't suggest another :/)

If you want to Mecha for the sake of mecha you want to look at Gundam,
or Sunrise in general. Since in your other post you said you dont like the old artstyle (I personally love it, TTGL looks better than DitF) and also you think 2 cours (24 eps)
are too long, go and watch the Gundam Thunderbolt. It is short and has the best animation of pretty much any anime ever (4k quality) Other than that Gundam 00,
but it has the old artstyle and is longer than 12 eps.
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Maybe they just wanted to draw some mechas to remember their old days at Gainax.
wow now that you mention it this might actually be the case.

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Bobby2Hands said:

The fan service in KLK and TTGL is not because it's Trigger, it's because it's directed by Hiroyuki Imaishi. You can see that style in other shows he directed like Panty & Stocking, Dead Leaves and RE: Cutie Honey.

Imaishi knows how to do fanservice well. The fanservice in Franxx is garbage because it's not directed by Imaishi.


Gurren Lagann isn't even Trigger. It's Gainax. Still Gainax does have fanservice too. Not as much as Kill la Kill.
the guys who did TTGL are the ones who created Trigger later. Thats why many people consider TTGL already a Trigger anime.
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I dont think fanservice is what DitF suffers from. Its that they still dont have relevant plot 11 episodes in, but they rather tease us with "you know this show is actually deep,
here have a piece of plot" followed by another 20 minutes of random stuff

That beeing said, the way they ride the mechas is indeed oversexualized. But all of this fits together, so Its nothing I would complain about.
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It was going to be my intro to mecha anime (please don't suggest another :/)

If you want to Mecha for the sake of mecha you want to look at Gundam,
or Sunrise in general. Since in your other post you said you dont like the old artstyle (I personally love it, TTGL looks better than DitF) and also you think 2 cours (24 eps)
are too long, go and watch the Gundam Thunderbolt. It is short and has the best animation of pretty much any anime ever (4k quality) Other than that Gundam 00,
but it has the old artstyle and is longer than 12 eps.
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Maybe they just wanted to draw some mechas to remember their old days at Gainax.
wow now that you mention it this might actually be the case.

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Gurren Lagann isn't even Trigger. It's Gainax. Still Gainax does have fanservice too. Not as much as Kill la Kill.
the guys who did TTGL are the ones who created Trigger later. Thats why many people consider TTGL already a Trigger anime.


I know they created Trigger but it was created by Gainax before Trigger existed.
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fanservice is what makes the show interesting. without it DITF wouldn't be different then all the other mecha animes
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fanservice is what makes the show interesting. without it DITF wouldn't be different then all the other mecha animes


Other mecha anime has fanservice too
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the guys who did TTGL are the ones who created Trigger later. Thats why many people consider TTGL already a Trigger anime.


Pixel_Vapour said:
I know they created Trigger but it was created by Gainax before Trigger existed.


here I copied the relevant answer for you again

Comander-07 said:
the guys who did TTGL are the ones who created Trigger later. Thats why many people consider TTGL already a Trigger anime.

Rabt said:
fanservice is what makes the show interesting. without it DITF wouldn't be different then all the other mecha animes
You should watch Cross Ange if you want to make that statement
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The so called fanservice in the show is actually a important narrative element of this show. It has heavly implied sexual themes and thats what makes the show interesting, if you watch it to se robots fighting monsters you are missing the point.
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For me it's rather the opposite,Darling is one of the shows,where fanservice and character interaction is making the plot.

Exactly. I won't deny that the idea of "fanservice" (read: sexual implications) is there, but it's far from cheap, imo. It's a metaphorical interaction between the characters without it being horribly, horribly in-your-face. It also brings a new angle to the coming-of-age tale that mecha tend to have.


I’m glad people get it. This show is far from cheap fanservice, it’s used in a good way and it plays into the symbolism of the show, and I’d say it’s not excessive or forced, it’s interwoven into the plot pretty well. Obviously the fanservice is sexy and risqué, but that’s kind of the point and part of the appeal that makes this stand out from the pack. On top of that, in terms of fanservice in anime this isn’t even that bad for fucks sake!

OP come back and talk to me after you watch Isuca.
LoomyTheBrewMar 17, 2018 10:52 PM
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