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Mar 9, 2018 9:45 AM
#1
Synopsis Set in the near future in Japan, year 2035. A major incident was known as "Burst" which was caused by researching artificial life. A certain AI called "Matter" has eroded the Kurobe Gorge. Entering the research city, which has been called as humanity's last hope, has been prohibited by the government. Two years later, Aiko Tachibana, a 15-year-old girl who lost her family from the incident, was told by a transfer student named Yuuya Kanzaki the truth that Aiko didn't know regarding a secret hidden within her body. The key to solve the mystery is said to be in the Primary Point, the center of Burst. When a boy and a girl, who bears the future of humanity, meet, what will be the new truth? Simulwatchers: Me, Oni-Baku, Jizzy, Pullman,Scarlett, omakase and whoever else wants to join in |
TenthMar 13, 2018 9:40 AM
Mar 9, 2018 9:53 AM
#3
im glad it seems we all have little hope in this series, lets see if we are proven wrong but i fucking doubt it. My specific predictions that i want to look back on when its over, there will be a slow start that is just fine but really generic, it'll have some decent episodes of build up midway through but nothing too noteworthy, episode 6 and up will be pants on head retarded and jam packed with anime cliches in addition to some hurr durr evil government types cause im going to be shocked if they arent in this, then series will end with either the girl or guy dying. I'll likely start tomorrow |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Mar 9, 2018 2:14 PM
#4
Alright, didn't intend to start it today either but tomorrow but this episode surprised me I actually enjoyed it a lot even if it had lots of cliches like the new mysterious transfer student. But I think I liked it mostly because of Tachibana, she's just such a likable protagonist so far and you can't help but feel sorry for her and I have no clue what happened to her family. Sure they showed her father dying to protect in in that car accident (?) but what about the other family members. And ngl, the first few mins were pretty tense. I guess that's what the big wall is for, to keep this whatever experiment gone wrong out. Shows like these can be a mess, depends on how they'll handle it all but I just HOPE it's atleast enjoyable all the way through. |
Mar 9, 2018 3:02 PM
#5
If you understood even the slightest bit of that first scene, you deserve an award. Then we're snapped back to the cripple chan. I think her character design is okay, but god her dub voice was terrible, so I'm going to stick with subs in this one. The main male's design isn't the best though, it looks like your generic supernatural anime design. The car chase was intense. But lol, I'm always intrigued that in every anime car chase scene, every character knows how to drift a sharp turn. That shit makes no sense but iiwii. I liked the plot twist at the end. It's the only thing that keeps me watching this, so far, boring and bland anime. |
Mar 10, 2018 3:49 AM
#6
fck, i actually probably like dis series The one beef i have with this show rn is the fact that they just start by throwing you into the action with no context and chars that you dont know anything about, i'm hoping that even if they don't overly focus on the world, they build on the main character's drama after discovering that her body rn is a fake and the real body is used as a weapon of mass destruction |
Mei-o_ScarlettMar 10, 2018 3:52 AM
So embarrased with Tensura fans and the fandom, how have we degraded |
Mar 10, 2018 3:59 AM
#7
Good I am not the only that thought the first episode was pretty enjoyable, and not in the so bad it's good kind of way either, well yet that is. Who knows how it could go later on. |
Mar 10, 2018 4:12 AM
#8
man, On one hand, i really didnt enjoy the stuff with that doctor's daughter and his convo with the old man which im guessing the subject is probably the themes of the series i didn't mind per se the fact that as usual, aico ran without a plan after discovering she isn't a real human , tho at least thankfully she didn't cause any major harm, and that part of the plot was just used to introduce the divers we see in ep 1 who are basically odd jobers i guess? and also unless the show throws some twist in, it's def too straight forward for a 12 ep series that seems to be dis complex overall, def a step down IMO from ep 1, |
So embarrased with Tensura fans and the fandom, how have we degraded |
Mar 10, 2018 6:21 AM
#9
This anime definitely has some old school vibes to it Like them gearing up for going into Ground Zero where it's dangerous af, almost like a suicide mission. Reminded me about Blue Gender somewhat. Once they go further in I bet it's gonna be more about survival than just getting to Tachibana's real body like sure they got money for this mission but will it really be worth it tho? I'm not so sure.... Also that's what happened to Tachibana's mother and brother, was thinking what happened to them because they only revealed what happened to her father last episode but I'm not so sure he's dead either given how that scientist talked about him. Anyways, I'm actually enjoying this quite a bit and think I'm alone in this statement so far cuz I read ep 1+2 discssuions on the MAL page and people fucking hates it although the people commenting there came off just as edgy children anyways. |
Mar 10, 2018 7:57 AM
#10
Thanks for the invite guys but I'm not doing it. I don't feel like putting my thoughts into that, principally after every episode. But I have watched 7 episodes so far and my rate is going to be either 4 or 5. Already better than B: The Beginning and not nearly as bad as Guilty Crown(lmao). I sensed some Suisei no Gargantia feels in it, there's probably people who worked into that in this(I'm not going to search about it). |
Mar 10, 2018 8:28 AM
#11
>just realized this was written by a guy who wrote some of the worst episodes of seed destiny...FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK ill start this trash heap sometime after finishing that other trashheap today |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Mar 10, 2018 9:22 AM
#12
Anyone tested out the dub yet? |
I probably regret this post by now. |
Mar 10, 2018 9:51 AM
#13
Pullman said: its apparently the polar opposite to b's stellar dub.Anyone tested out the dub yet? |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Mar 10, 2018 9:54 AM
#14
JizzyHitler said: Pullman said: its apparently the polar opposite to b's stellar dub.Anyone tested out the dub yet? I wouldn't call the B dub stellar either, it was just a typical above-average dub, with some roles having really good VAs but also some not so good acting, especially when it comes to random side characters. Definitely very watchable, but stellar as a term I'd reserve for other dubs like Bebop or Baccano. But yeah I watched like 5 minutes of the first ep of AICO in dub and this dub is definitely worse. I watched B all dubbed, but didn't make it beyond the first 5 minutes in this. |
I probably regret this post by now. |
Mar 10, 2018 5:54 PM
#15
Episode 1 Holy fucking power rangers on rollerblades. Am I supposed to take them seriously? That fucking generic scene where she falls on top of the transfer student dude -.-. Mfw paper plane club. And some pantyshots. Well, the last 5 minutes of the ep were somewhat intriguing, but overall not a particularly great start. I love myself some mystery tho, and this seems to have plenty of it so hopefully it gets more consistent. Episode 2 Okay so this is basically about a more physical version of the concept of transferring the mind (in this case the whole brain) to artificial (and maybe just other?) bodies, like in Altered Carbon for example. I definitely find this to be a concept I like but it is gonna depend on what they do with it. I'm confused about what this 'artificial brain' they put into her original body is tho. They said they couldn't save her in her original body, but with that artificial brain her original body managed to survive after all? Not sure how that works tbh. On a sidenote I really find the designs of the two MCs so bland and boring. Kind of a shame, B had such cool designs. The thing with her surgery spawning this random malignant matter into existence is a bit out there but let's see where they are going with this. And Jesus, this girl. She starts to accept that they are telling her the truth but at the same time decides to randomly make a run for it? wtf shit like this triggers me more than it should. People are supposed to want to know the truth, not put their head in the sand and run away -.-. Overall a decent episode, definitely some potential there (altho imo not as much as in the early eps of B so who knows how much this'll drop the ball). Episode 3 Yeah I really don't like Aiko. She's much more calm and accepting of these agengy people kidnapping her than of that guy than she was with before and she seems to trust them and this doctor more even tho they kinda lied to her for the last 2 years. Loot at how desperately she is trying to remain her innocent worldview even tho there is a literal shitton of physical evidence to the contrary that they showed her, on her own body. Wtf, how delusional can you get. Just accept reality and re-assess your priorities ffs. Characters being that much in denial even when confronted with overhwelming, undeniable evidence are definitely one of my pet peeves in anime/writing. And Aiko is their fucking godmother. She'd rather believe some random records/files than the video they showed her? Talk about trusting the government too much. And she really just goes with whoever comes and grabs her. Only time she displayed any agency of her own was when she randomly jumped out of the window in the middle of the explanation before. Rant aside, overall it was an okay episode. A bit on the slow side and we still don't know very much about the true nature/motivations of either side or wtf is going on in general with that malignant matter. Episode 4 Is it immature of me that I find it hilarious that their suits are literally shitting on them while they wear them? I definitely found this episode more exciting than the previous ones. I enjoy watching them fight their way upstream one station at a time, even tho so far they've handled it mostly with easy and pulled some surprisingly efficient weapons/methods out of their asses. It also helps that Aiko has mostly been fainting tbh. But yeah, maybe this'll turn into something more interesting from here on, but somehow I'm not really getting into it so far. I don't really care about the characters and that's always hard to overcome. B had a lot of issues, but that wasn't one of them so I found it easier to watch than AICO so far. This has just been kinda meh mostly. Episode 5 So shit is getting serious now with this being the last checkpoint. Seems from now on they'll be on their own and I'm hoping the survival mode that Tenth mentioned will set in. I love that kind of stuff. They tried to flesh out the rollerblade power rangers a bit with some dialogue early on but I couldn't really get into it, it just felt like rushed exposition. And once again Aiko just runs away and hides when things get uncomfortable instead of trying to speak her mind. I mean he was stupid to rile her up like that since he should know better, but I still can't like her personality. That artificial gerbil thingy is cute tho, I like it :>. |
AlcoholicideMar 11, 2018 9:35 AM
I probably regret this post by now. |
Mar 10, 2018 10:38 PM
#16
episode 1: Yeah we are not off to a good start, the episode itself while not particularly bad was just chock full of cliches and red flags, the biggest being the protaognist's who's personality feels both like it prime for manipulative drama to pander to the viewer but the more problematic thing of her reactions to everything in the episode felt like there was a disconnect in how she should be reacting. I highly suspect she will die at the end of this in some grandiose sad scene and I just won't care. another big red flag though for me was that opening scene, ironically the part people liked from what ive seen, cause the characters were annoying as shit in just that small bit which doesn't bode well for the overall show. To the shows credit, i must give praise for the character designs having a relatively high level of shading in them aty least by anime standards, theres alot of detail in their hair and shadows that hit them which does look good, i dont like the designs themselves though they look souless. The movement on the matter though was phenomenal, both in detail but in fluidity so i hope the show has more of that. I'd watch ep 2 now but ive heard its so bad it made people drop it cause of information overload, so ill wait till im more awake. |
JizzyHitlerMar 10, 2018 10:47 PM
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Mar 11, 2018 5:02 AM
#17
Ep 2 is not that bad, you kinda need that information anyways. Seems like no matter what there will always be something to complain about when it comes to this show from what I've read online. I've already ranted enough for B: The Beginning's piss poor ep 10 and hope it won't be the same here, atleast enjoying this more so far but I'm in the minority. |
Mar 11, 2018 5:11 AM
#18
Seems like they are finally gonna head into Ground Zero as things get worse with the malignant matter and the matter getting drawn to Tachibana is for sure gonna play a part later when she eventually drops or run out of this antidote whatever she takes. Otherwise not much happened other than the government wanted to get a hold off Tachibana? |
Mar 11, 2018 10:15 AM
#19
Episode 1 I thought it was an all right first episode. The first part was quite intriguing, but ofc, we didn't get any real info on what's going on, but I liked the build up to the goal reveal at the end of the episode. It honestly seems like pretty cliche teen action mystery stuff, but I don't particularly have anything against that yet. |
密室殺人はなぜ美しいのか。 |
Mar 11, 2018 3:26 PM
#20
epsiode 2 That was very bad in the first half, just jumping straight into it with info dumping terms, characters, and their roles. It was painful to sit through due to how fucking boring it was that they couldnt come up with even the slightest interesting way to tell us any of this, nope just sit down in a room for 12 minutes and have character drone on and on and on. I understood all they had to say but it was really hard to hold any interest and I think its safe to say, these 10 minutes might be the sole reason the show is getting bad reception cause it essentially just fucked up its entire groundwork in no time flat. People are likely going to zone out on alot of what they introduced here cause of how uninteresting it is and as a result get lost later on when the show is trying to be more complex than it can handle. 2nd half was alot better cause it wasnt paint drying boring. as i said in episode 1 i found these characters to be quite annoying so im not looking foreword to them being the bulk of the support cast, and i also question why the hell these people are being chosen cause episode 1 showed them being incompetent if anything with how their 2 teams nearly got the other killed at multiple points. Making it a competition is moronic as well cause they just increases the risk of them screwing up and compromising the whole thing, if the show was going to do this type of plot point it should of been revealed well into the mission near the end to guarantee theyd at least get to that point. The brief scene of the 2 guys getting wrecked by matter was pretty cool, im at least somewhat hopeful even if this show is badly written that these sections could be fun cause of the monster designs and potential oppressive atmosphere. I am a sucker for these type of survival tones so if the show couldn't have more of a handicap from me in this place. last stray note, the flashback of the obvious villain doctor guy's daughter dying was unintentionally hilarious, the way it just zooms in on a happy face then shows her immediately eat shit in an avalanche felt like a gag from gintama showing hasegawa about to be put into a deadly situation abruptly. episode 1 wasnt bad just full of cliches, episode 2 was a massive step down, dont think the show is doomed yet for me personally yet. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Mar 11, 2018 3:41 PM
#21
Episode 6 They kinda pulled this dream contact device out of their asses, didn't they? The episode itself was pretty standard. More action, but somehow the action in this isn't half as fun to watch as it was in B. They also spend some more time on the characters which I liked, even tho I still don't find any of them particularly interesting at least it feels like we're getting to know them a bit more. There was also the development of that doctor being fired at the end but meh. |
I probably regret this post by now. |
Mar 11, 2018 4:21 PM
#22
That op feels like its a step away from being good, but ends right as it feels like its gonna pick up, but that ending theme is very pretty. episode 3 welp the episode was ok i guess, but is really showcasing some poor pacing on this whos part cause these past 2 episodes feel like its screwing the show overall with such a miniscule runtime whilst wasting not a 5th of the show on horrendous exposition really not much to say about the episode specifically it feels like it was padding itself along and i was finding myself dozing off a bit watching it, show's biggest problem is no one is likable in the slightest and id frankly say all those burst members are obnoxious if anything, tachibana barely has a personality and kanzaki just straight up doesnt have one |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Mar 11, 2018 4:29 PM
#23
Episode 7 Some decent action stuffs in this episode. And some plot developments. AICO has been kidnapped once again. But honestly I'm too lazy to write much, and I don't care particularly much either. That's the downside of these forum simulwatches, when the show is more mediocre/boring than good/bad (which imo this is) there isn't a lot to say. |
AlcoholicideMar 11, 2018 6:14 PM
I probably regret this post by now. |
Mar 11, 2018 4:46 PM
#24
Aico might wind up being worse than i expected, instead of being an entertaining disaster it might just be pure blandness, hopefully it picks up from here on out cause these first 3 episodes were bad introductions into this show. I actually suspect that the reason aico's reception is so much harsher than B's is less because the show is going to fail hard going foreword, but more so these first few episodes are so offputting alot of people probably clocked out early on with how godawful its exposition is that there just wont be any attatchment later on even if it improved cause it fucked up its groundwork so much. I predict this is going to be a show that requires the viewer to pay attention to some small details for the finale to make sense, but because they crammed all the exposition the show needed into 10 straight minutes of the episode 2 that many of these details will be lost not cause of complexity, but boring execution, so when the time comes that this exposition is to be used alot of people will have forgotten important stuff and be even less enthused by the show. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Mar 11, 2018 5:17 PM
#25
oh right, forgot dis is a thing, ill finish up to 5 or 6 today |
So embarrased with Tensura fans and the fandom, how have we degraded |
Mar 11, 2018 5:38 PM
#26
episode 4 aaayyy i actually had fun finally, plot wise things seem pretty poor with generic evil company exploiting world ending crisis staight out of "aliens", and none of the characters have anything going for them and doubt they ever will greatly taking away from what could be intense stuff, but the episode had alot of cool setpieces, the matter is really cool as an enemy especially if they do stuff with it evolving which i assume its hinting at, and there was even slight world building in way of that gate explaining a decent amount how the world hasnt been overun yet. its just a damned shame the writing is so sub par, if they actually took the time to give me any reason to care for any of these people, i could see these situations getting super intense especially cause they will likely start killing characters off soonish. Tachibana is the only one i can kind of say i got something resembling an attachment to just cause she is a normal girl dragged into this horror show and thats enough for at least basic sympathy i guess Doctor guy might wind up being a potentially ok character depending on what they do with him, just not sure what they can or will do with him. The big thing to note here, is I'm a real sucker for these types of survival settings, one of my big guilty pleasures, and this setting is starting to remind me alot of the later sections of biomeat where the world was getting overrun and these disgusting gory looking monsters were covering large portions of land. So its more or less an unfair advantage on this shows part to elicit this type of reaction from me more so than showing actual improvement. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Mar 11, 2018 8:32 PM
#27
after sleuthing a bit with the reception for this series, it seems like my theory that episode 2 killed this entire show might of been closer to correct than wrong, it seems tons of people dropped the show outright from it or were so bored out their minds during the info dump that when these super important details come back later alot of people just cant give a shit cause it was told in such a boring/forgettable way the terminology just becomes white noise. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Mar 11, 2018 9:21 PM
#28
episode 5 This episode is full of compliments followed by the word "but" This was a much needed breather episode for things to calm down and give the characters time to flesh out especially the grunt guys but the backstories of both were painfully cliche and cookie cutter we got some much needed character interaction but it confirms the retarded addition of a love triangle cause why not kanzaki thankfully is not some big waifufag and actually doesnt seem to actually care about tachibana's well being in the slightest as a person, it also seems to imply he is leading her out to die more or less which is a genuinly interesting conflict/plotpoint but him telling her shes just an object was just stupid on his part, like what the hell did he expect her reaction to be the little weasel thing is adorable but conflicts with the tone if its going to be getting more and more horror like as it goes on. though there are some genuine pros here that dont have conflictions, i am warming up to tachibana a bit cause that talk about no point regretting lost time with the people you didnt appreciate when they are alive is kind of a quick way to appeal to me, im a sucker for emphasis on moving on from tragedy and loss so its appealing to one of my weaker sides. I also do like that theres a bit more of an urgency going foreword now that the government types are chasing them. I also do just like the idea of these checkpoints as a worldbuilding device, kind of cool to have this area that exsists on its own for different groups to resupply, kind of shows how much the world has adapted to this disaster. overall id say i actually kind of enjoyed this episode. Last little note ill say is, man its really hard to like this show when it decides to infuse dumbass fanservice all the sudden like it has. Its the worst kind in anime for me, where its so few and far between and so unfitting for the tone and plot the show is going for that it ends up feeling immensely jarring, either go for it or dont put any of it in at all. episode 6 Well that stuff with kaede was retarded, if these people are suppossed to be the best then why are they so flawed at basic things like cooperation, thankfully this didnt take up the bulk fo the episode like i thought it would at the start other than that, i actually probably enjoyed this episode the most of the show so far, cause it was all generally focused on a fun set piece that was made more fun by the addition of those cool jets that add aerial sequences to the combat. I'm guessing tachibana's supernatural like ability is likley due to her getting closer to ground zero, i will say her trying to take charge in the fight made me like her a decent amount more than i did before. I do worry though the show is going to pull some dumb shit with kanzaki's identity, like hes a clone or some shit of dr yuya but hopefully thats proven incorrect cause i feel like this show is finally getting on track to at least be potential passable. the show has been steadily improving, ill glady accept being wrong on ragging on this show so much though its start deserves all the flack i gave it, but im also not getting my hopes up i feel like with these improvements ive seen a few potential plotpoints that could get pants on head retarded. |
JizzyHitlerMar 11, 2018 10:28 PM
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Mar 12, 2018 4:05 AM
#29
Honestly there isn't much to say for these 2 eps so ill just combine my overall thought.. but it feels all over the place ep 3 feeling like it could split across 2 eps with it's padding and using this chance to introduce more than the character's name as well as the "mission" to resuce aiko but it didn't ep 4 is just straight up action (the competition thing is fcking stupid btw) , which tbh is sorta average and the ep throught has sprinkles of the bigger picture but since nothing and none of this shit is being explained, it just feels bland |
So embarrased with Tensura fans and the fandom, how have we degraded |
Mar 12, 2018 5:01 AM
#30
A pretty fun action-packed episode, not really much to say about this episode but I am still enjoying it. Seems like the group have quite a decent arsenal of weapons to keep the red matter at bay but it'll only get worse as they progress for sure. I totally expected something to happen with Aiko being stupid chasing this... thing, even out in the woods. But nope, her stupidity didn't kill anyone thankfully. Pretty convenient for them to resupply at this abandoned place and that tank looking armored vehicle doesn't look bad, sure it will help lots. I just hope Aiko learns to control herself cuz I feel like there will be any moment in the future where her either being stupid or curious will actually kill someone in the group since she's just so naive. Nvm about Aiko fucking up she was actually useful this episode. It was instead Kaede being a terrible teammate that fucked things up for them. Stop being so arrogant and trying to show off in a serious situation like this. Also lmao Kazuki just losing his arm like that, turns out it's artifical which makes sense because boy would he be in pain right there otherwise. Pretty convenient for Yuuya to just have spare arms laying around, just who is this kid? seems like he's good at everything and all he does so far is just "relaxing" inside the armored vehicle while the others are out there risking their lives. Although he technically IS the client and not Aiko. Also seems like the Dream Contact made Aiko sense the matter more which can prove useful in combat but at what cost? |
TenthMar 12, 2018 6:06 AM
Mar 12, 2018 8:49 AM
#31
episode 7 wow the writing at the start was bad, like what was even the point of this plot point and introduction of a chase if its just going to be resolved that quick, did it seriously exist just to imply kanzaki is suspicious...the thing the show already established much better 2 episodes ago? Other than that, still had fun with the set pieces though i think the matter is losing its impact with it being so par for the course, it doesnt really feel like the threat is escalating the further into the zone they go so hopefully they fix that, i also worry the show wont have the guts to kill anyone off which is kind of weakening the threat level as well. I am wondering what the show is pulling with the villain dr guy and his daughter, it seems like shes somehow connected to the matter and how it controls, that and the addition that tachibana is sharing her memories. This has me honestly pretty interested but this plotpoint is also ripe for getting really stupid depending on where they take it. episode 8 Yeeeep, i knew they were going to pull that twist with kanzaki, much preferred they would of just made him a regular character rather than this. RIP dude man, you were....a guy, but at the very least this confirmed the show is willing to kill anybody off which helps add to the tension i was complaining this show lacked an episode ago, it did feel like the stakes got raised a tad bit before it in the battle itself cause the area is basically turning into all matter which looks really cool. With the beetle destroyed too im hoping that also raising the stakes a bit. The writing had 2 big issues though, the first being how the fuck were they able to just talk at the start so freely without matter attacking them, and the second was that one team members logic is just moronic to say the least, like my comrade just died so im going to point a gun at the person he gave his life to "protect my team????" It makes no sense and just defeats the purpose of the sacrifice |
JizzyHitlerMar 12, 2018 10:26 AM
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Mar 12, 2018 9:44 AM
#32
why the fuck am the one thats farthest ahead in this watch when im enjoying the show the least, hearing the positives from tenth and sacarlet kind of offset my annoyance with the show. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Mar 12, 2018 9:56 AM
#33
JizzyHitler said: why the fuck am the one thats farthest ahead in this watch when im enjoying the show the least, hearing the positives from tenth and sacarlet kind of offset my annoyance with the show. I guess it just means you want it to be over more quickly? I dunno |
Mar 12, 2018 10:06 AM
#34
Tenth said: less that and more i kind of didnt have much going on yesterday, kind of wasted an off day. I'm just surprised you guys are watching it the slowest when you were the ones pleasantly surprised. I just am curious if thats going to wear off or not for you guys as it goes on.JizzyHitler said: why the fuck am the one thats farthest ahead in this watch when im enjoying the show the least, hearing the positives from tenth and sacarlet kind of offset my annoyance with the show. I guess it just means you want it to be over more quickly? I dunno If i was hate watching this it'd be done by now, i blazed through seed destiny when it got bad. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Mar 12, 2018 10:10 AM
#35
Episode 8 I guess the doctor guy now completely took over the research. I think I know why I care so little about the action in this. It's a combination of them just using mechs and firearms (most boring type of combat in anime) and only fighting against... matter. It's just always the same, some random strings or explosions of matter, them shooting at it or doing some more fancy stuff to it. There is barely any choreography to it, or any emotion because the enemy is just a blob basically. When I care so little about the plot and characters, but still manage to be even more bored by the action parts of the show, the action just isn't doing a great job tbh. Oh no Daisuke! Which one was he again? I can barely tell them apart if they wear their suits. But I guess this means death is a thing. Unless in the end everyone ever absorbed by the matter gets revived somehow with an artificial plot twist. I wouldn't put that beyond this show. Also lol, I didn't but Aiko suddenly being all badass and casually wielding two machine guns like that. And that twist at the end was somewhat interesting but not entirely unexpected. Episode 9 "You must be doing something only you can understand, Kanzaki." No, Aiko, I'm pretty sure you're the only one who doesn't understand -.- I kinda wish there was more of a sense of the threat getting more intense the close to the dam they came but felt pretty much around the same threat level all the way through their journey, even tho someone died last episode. The set design inside the facility was cool tho. And lol wasn't it a bit too easy to confirm that Kanzaki was an artificial body by just holding that device they have all the time onto him for 3 seconds? For being such a big secret it sure was easy to discover/confirm. Okay wtf, either I'm dumb, misunderstood the explanation or this makes no sense. They are saying that the Aiko we knew was the fake brain whose body is the matter? wtf is her body now then? Her real body? Why does it react like an artificial organism then? They said the real plan is to put back the fake brain into the artificial body that is now the matter, so her artificial body must still be there. I'm honestly confused as fuck about this. Pls help. I mean even Aiko was skeptical because of the serial number on the eyes thing. And then they just say it's part of the brain, how convenient -.-. But more importantly we've seen her body have those weird crystallization reactions a million times. Well I guess they explained it a few seconds later and I was just too impatient to wait but idk, I don't like explanations that don't just introduce new information but basically retcon a lot of stuff that was provided to us as information earlier. But execution aside, I don't dislike the twist, even tho it's a pretty clichéd development. I gotta say the last scene was the first time that I feel like I kinda wanna see what is happening next, rather than just being completely disinterested, so that's nice. It's ironic that just as this happens I have to go out for a bit and can't continue right away xD. Karma, I guess. |
AlcoholicideMar 12, 2018 11:23 AM
I probably regret this post by now. |
Mar 12, 2018 10:12 AM
#36
JizzyHitler said: Tenth said: less that and more i kind of didnt have much going on yesterday, kind of wasted an off day. I'm just surprised you guys are watching it the slowest when you were the ones pleasantly surprised.JizzyHitler said: why the fuck am the one thats farthest ahead in this watch when im enjoying the show the least, hearing the positives from tenth and sacarlet kind of offset my annoyance with the show. I guess it just means you want it to be over more quickly? I dunno I just am curious if thats going to wear off or not for you guys as it goes on. I don't think the pace of watching it have anything to do with my enjoyment out of it, it's just that I watch currently a lot more Kamen Rider. I'm sure I'll finish it either tomorrow or Wednesday tho |
Mar 12, 2018 10:19 AM
#37
Tenth said: thats fair, im hoping to finish this tomorrow as well.JizzyHitler said: Tenth said: JizzyHitler said: why the fuck am the one thats farthest ahead in this watch when im enjoying the show the least, hearing the positives from tenth and sacarlet kind of offset my annoyance with the show. I guess it just means you want it to be over more quickly? I dunno I just am curious if thats going to wear off or not for you guys as it goes on. I don't think the pace of watching it have anything to do with my enjoyment out of it, it's just that I watch currently a lot more Kamen Rider. I'm sure I'll finish it either tomorrow or Wednesday tho I'm a little surprised how much aico is failing to find any type of audience though, i really expected it to have an annoying fanbase that defends its problems but no one really seems to care one bit about this show's existence and i feel like its already been forgotten. Shame cause these animators are really going all out at making this show look amazing with its combination of really fluid animation and aot more shading/detail in the drawing than your typcial show. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Mar 12, 2018 10:45 AM
#38
episode 9 fucking finally something interesting happened even if its shit i predicted would happen before the show even started, i think this was the first episode i just genuinly liked all the way through. I like that everything is out in the open now ad whilst predictable having tachibana be this big sacrificial lamb is a genuinely interesting plotpoint, like her being a object really doesnt matter if the thing grew its own consciousness of its own but understandably the entire cast seems pretty gung ho that sacrificing her is fine cause shes not real save for a couple And of course villain doctor bro would be the villain, have you heard his voice actor? Curious as to what his motivation will be |
JizzyHitlerMar 12, 2018 8:22 PM
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Mar 12, 2018 1:53 PM
#39
Episode 10 Well, not an uninteresting episode but I feel like the delivery is still a bit convoluted and could definitely be more impactful, tho part of that is definitely that the show failed to really make me care about most of this during the earlier parts. Nonetheless, I'm definitely enjoying this more now than at any point during the first 8 episodes which is better than nothing. Episode 11 So the mad doctor had a method of controlling the matter all along? This show keeps pulling new technologies out of its ass. Speaking of which: Cell Assembler 3. At least the explanation afterwards was somewhat interesting even tho I couldn't follow all the 'science' in it. But things definitely heated up this episode. Both Tachibanas want to sacrifice themselves so the other (and mom & ryota) can live. Arguable the 'fake' one is more 'real' at this point after having actually lived as Tachibana Aiko for the last few years so I kinda hope that one is the one who'll survive. I wonder what Kaiki would have to say about this :>. Also RIP that boss lady's career. I didn't like her early on but I guess she's not that bad after all. Episode 12 So Kanzaki changed his mind after fake Tachibana's display of human-ness and self-sacrifice. Who could've seen that coming? But yeah, this is how it should be, I just wonder how he'll acommplish it. Since he's a bit of a mad scientist I worry about the result xD. The Yuzuha army is kinda creepy. It would fit into the Ito Junji anime. A bunch of action happened, the surgery was successful and Yuzuha was saved. That all happened pretty quickly. GUMMI SAVED THE DAY. The true hero of this show. Not sure if that's funny or hilarious. Now the doors are open for selfcest yuri doujins. Well in the end the finale was pretty meh just like the whole show. Not really much else to say. There were some decent parts later on, but overall this series failed to be exciting or interesting almost all the time and ende dup being just mediocre from start to finish. |
AlcoholicideMar 12, 2018 3:10 PM
I probably regret this post by now. |
Mar 12, 2018 4:29 PM
#40
So... I'm so bad with names but there just has to be a connection with Aiko and the girl that's in coma right? I mean.... even in the flashbacks the girl that's in coma got the same voice actress as Aiko? can't confirm this but they sound incredibly similar. It wouldn't surprise if that is Aiko's real body actually and fake memories gotta play in somewhere in the story. Not sure what the red matter tried to do with Aiko having her be in that coccon which she escaped easily. What purpose would it serve? Also CAAC got fucking rekt. RIP that captain that tried acting cool. |
Mar 12, 2018 6:06 PM
#41
TBF, i have irl commitments so im watching it slow af, will finish by tmr |
So embarrased with Tensura fans and the fandom, how have we degraded |
Mar 12, 2018 7:53 PM
#42
man , this aico So this ep we got boring conversations with the diver people, at least we learn about some of their situations, we also got that new pet which im guessing is prob a deus ex machina waiting to happen. <.< also this running away drama, and the yuya doesnt understand me drama <.< , got was so bland and boring. Ok, starting off with conflict between the two diver teams, really? i legit still dont get the point of why these 2 teams are competing beside for cheap drama like this, we get more mysterious yuya things at the end, and aico finally does something useful i guess? man, overall one of my main peeve of the show that i can no longer let slide is that it seems to want to cover 2 different shows, or at least parts at once one with this escort mission the other with the political drama thing with all the doctor and such, as well as the comma girl tbh wanna drop but wanna see how bs it gets |
So embarrased with Tensura fans and the fandom, how have we degraded |
Mar 12, 2018 8:19 PM
#43
Scarlett_ryuken said: Not sure how its really 2 different shows to you, they connect pretty directly almost the entire way through and basically explains everything about the show.man , this aico So this ep we got boring conversations with the diver people, at least we learn about some of their situations, we also got that new pet which im guessing is prob a deus ex machina waiting to happen. <.< also this running away drama, and the yuya doesnt understand me drama <.< , got was so bland and boring. Ok, starting off with conflict between the two diver teams, really? i legit still dont get the point of why these 2 teams are competing beside for cheap drama like this, we get more mysterious yuya things at the end, and aico finally does something useful i guess? man, overall one of my main peeve of the show that i can no longer let slide is that it seems to want to cover 2 different shows, or at least parts at once one with this escort mission the other with the political drama thing with all the doctor and such, as well as the comma girl tbh wanna drop but wanna see how bs it gets |
JizzyHitlerMar 12, 2018 8:23 PM
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Mar 12, 2018 9:06 PM
#44
guess 2 different show isnt really the correct term then , honestly i relate to the cause they didn't pay attention to the info dump, they are lost rn camp |
So embarrased with Tensura fans and the fandom, how have we degraded |
Mar 12, 2018 9:11 PM
#45
episode 10 NO, I LOVE THAT GIRL I MET 16 HOURS AGO, I SHANT STAY WITH YOU ALL I MUST RUN INTO A MONSTER INFESTED HELLHOLE TO ANGST OVER MY STAR CROSSED LOVE!!!! That part was absurdly retarded, but hey the rest of the episode was surprisingly pretty darn good, i don't know if its just cause the show suddenly got interesting but the directing in this episode was so much stronger than the rest of the show with some really interesting scenes that played with more symbolism. I would even dare say i felt something resembling an emotion for tachibana this episode when she talked to her (original's) brother and mother and assumingly decided that she will accept death to save them. I generally like heroic sacrifices and this had a pretty good reveal and build up towards accepting it so i will give the show props on it cause i do feel kind of bad for fake tachibana. I also enjoyed seeing kanzaki/yura be way less stonefaced these past few episodes. its just a damn shame how little worth the rest of the cast has The biggest problem with this episode wasnt the ep itself, its that so much falls flat cause of how poorly handled parts before this were. In a better written show this would of been really emotional but here it kind of only hits a fraction of what it could have with better characterization |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Mar 12, 2018 9:12 PM
#46
ho boi, not looking forward to ltr eps .-. |
So embarrased with Tensura fans and the fandom, how have we degraded |
Mar 12, 2018 9:13 PM
#47
Scarlett_ryuken said: episode 2 was a disaster that doomed the show, id probably recommend rewatching the first 10 minutes of it or something if your that lost already cause things are going to start calling it back for some major stuff very soon.guess 2 different show isnt really the correct term then , honestly i relate to the cause they didn't pay attention to the info dump, they are lost rn camp Its surprisingly competent in the overall plot, the problems with this show all come down to other problems more so than any trainwreck scenarios and i kind of blame it all on the writer, i dare say its even possible it might have a potentially decent conclusion if it doesnt decide to fuck itself which is a very real possibility. |
JizzyHitlerMar 12, 2018 9:18 PM
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Mar 12, 2018 9:20 PM
#48
yea im gonna rewatch ep 2 actually, and the parts i blanked on, i'll hold off from this simuwatch for now until i get my irl stuff cleared on thursday then |
So embarrased with Tensura fans and the fandom, how have we degraded |
Mar 12, 2018 10:09 PM
#49
real life is more important than meh sci fi anime im the oppossite, i need to finish it or i wont be able to until thursday |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Mar 13, 2018 10:15 AM
#50
So Yura actually lives but as Yuya huh. Well that explains why he's not really acting like a high schooler and is quite mature and he's also very scientific. But if Yuya is a duplicate wouldn't his body also be like Aiko's? he can atleast somehow still be out without any suit on him but he doesn't seem to be connected to any of the matter. I guess this is a different case tho as he's a duplicate of another kind. I can see this getting confusing lmao And I'm honestly surprised it took this long for them to lose someone in the team, RIP Daisuke. He was one of the more sane people in the group and knew how to lead. Have they even made any progress now for several eps? they keep retreating to the resupply base... I dun even... so fucking much happened in this episode but at the same time they kinda repeated a lot of the revelations. So I guess our Aiko is completely artificial including her brain. Why even bother with taking her with them if the real goal was to destroy the real body to stop the matter unless I missed something. |
TenthMar 13, 2018 5:11 PM
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