| You could have just used the search function as this topic has been discussed about a million times before. https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1474926 https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1411824 https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1427513 https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1368250 https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1362294 https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1351164 https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=723561 If you go through all these replies and still have any open questions we can talk about it, but until then I'd just feel I'd be copypasting what was said a million times before :> |
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| Usually when asked people say that mecha is just "robot fighting other robots", but when i check their list there's basically no mecha shows. Haven't found anyone that actually watches mecha and dislike for that reason I myself have seen nothing but the most mainstream ones, so not much to say... |
| many have postulated that the quality of mecha from its origination to now has waned, but we could also argue about modern day good ones. For me, I think the problem is that many of them are repetitive, most of the mecha I've seen involve aliens trying to conquer the earth or some other monsters (which makes shows like geass or star driver pretty interesting for a mecha) |
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| I'm not a big mecha fan myself so i cant say. I would assume people get bored of non stop robo action though. |
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| I don't like watching huge pieces of CGI metal crashing into each other and shooting random lasers Though mecha is one of my highest-rated genres so idk |
 What's the difference? |
| Because you can't fap because of those gigantic piece of alloy. |
_Ako_ said: Because you can't fap because of those gigantic piece of alloy. You might be able to fap to the mechs in Darling in the Franxx if you try hard enough tbh |
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| Idk, maybe we have passed the era that thinks giant robots fighting in the space is cool? I personally just don't find mecha interesting. Even the ones that I ended up liking (Code Geass and Tengen Toppa) didn't interest me because of the mecha aspect. |
| I'm not a meccha fan myself. The biggest reason is that it just seems like mindless entertainment. Only Neon Genesis Evangelion (a deconstruction of the meccha genre) Code Geass (not truly meccha either), Gurren Lagan and FLCL (also not truly meccha) do something interesting with it. I could not stand Aldnoah Zero and stopped watching after two episodes. Though, I'm going to watch Macross soon. |
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| Because not everyone likes cheap waifu bait. Jesus that Franxx anime, that's like Re: Zero all over again, Rem=Zero Two. |
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Pullman said: well i mean not everyone wants to go dig up old threads from 2014, and ppl want fresh opinion sometimes.You could have just used the search function as this topic has been discussed about a million times before. https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1474926 https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1411824 https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1427513 https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1368250 https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1362294 https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1351164 https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=723561 If you go through all these replies and still have any open questions we can talk about it, but until then I'd just feel I'd be copypasting what was said a million times before :> back to OP: bc ppl prefer to watch waifus fight than to watch robots fight. also ppl might just be sick of the genre. im p sure the reason y ppl liked mecha back then was bc of the space hype back in the 70s-90s and now space hype has died down mecha hype has also died down (who knows tho elon musk might decide to build a functioning gundam and hype levels might go up again) FriendlyKebab said: i beg to differBecause watching giant robots fighting is boring |
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| Robots are boring, and the drama, comedy or whatever else it s trying to do gets all muddled up because of the poorly paced fight scenes that take forever. |
| Mecha is the least Japanese of all the genres. It can't stand on its own like all the others. Mecha only works when non-mecha is injected. That's why Cross Ange is the best mecha. |
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| Cuz You don't expect so much giant-ROBOTTU would suit up in a sausage foreplay when connecting using it's own apache helicopter-esque thrust maneuver... |
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| Don't think people like CGI that much. Then again there are many that enjoy this genre. Tbh I'm not a big fan of Mecha but Code Geass and Eureka Seven were amazing. |
| I mean there's still more mecha - a niche genre about people fighting in robots - than there is stories in anime about gay people, so I think it's doing ok for itself |
lazypigz said: Pullman said: well i mean not everyone wants to go dig up old threads from 2014, and ppl want fresh opinion sometimes.You could have just used the search function as this topic has been discussed about a million times before. https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1474926 https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1411824 https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1427513 https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1368250 https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1362294 https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1351164 https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=723561 If you go through all these replies and still have any open questions we can talk about it, but until then I'd just feel I'd be copypasting what was said a million times before :> back to OP: bc ppl prefer to watch waifus fight than to watch robots fight. also ppl might just be sick of the genre. im p sure the reason y ppl liked mecha back then was bc of the space hype back in the 70s-90s and now space hype has died down mecha hype has also died down (who knows tho elon musk might decide to build a functioning gundam and hype levels might go up again) FriendlyKebab said: i beg to differBecause watching giant robots fighting is boring you really think there has been some great creative innovation as to why people don't like mecha? I promise you it's the same reasons as 2 or 5 or 10 years ago. so idk how 'fresh opinions' would make a difference, but okay. Just seems like an excuse for laziness. To summarize all these threads, including this one: It's always because people just don't like giant robots and they don't enjoy seeing them fight and therefore are prejudiced against a genre they don't know much about except that giant robots fighting is a part of it. Some don't like the politics that tend to come with it but that's already an advanced and rare stance. But most importantly, it isn't unpopular, it's just unpopular on MAL. I guess mecha fans don't identify with the larger anime fandom that much and stick to themselves, but plenty of them are out there, trust me. It's a whole suculture of it's own. |
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theloliguardian said: This is quite possible. There was a time when people were incredibly excited with space, like whenever we landed on the moon where 600 million people were watching it.Idk, maybe we have passed the era that thinks giant robots fighting in the space is cool? Now you can see like maybe a few million of such related videos? Even though there's been a substantial increase in availability of video and you don't have to watch it live. |
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| as others have said, most of them seem to be repetetive these days - from the premise to even the mech designs Swagernator said: Because not everyone likes cheap waifu bait. Jesus that Franxx anime, that's like Re: Zero all over again, Rem=Zero Two. 02 is FAR greater than Rem though :/ she is best girl so I guess I have a bias towards her lol |
| An admin's dickhead Soul banned me from MAL t('v't) |
| It's popular in Japan lmao. The West simply doesn't like robots. I mean, look at tranformers kek |
| Be thankful for the wisdom granted to you. |
| Use the search option to see what others have said about Mecha in the past instead of creating new threads. |
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| some people just haven't seen gundam |
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| Because people cannot understand a simple idea: everything is better with a giant robots. |
YoungboyNBA said: _Senpai said: FranXX is the evolution of Mecha. Waifu-bait mechas are now a reality Out of topic but does Franxx have good romance though? the tag aint there so its probably secondary but is it any good development between the characters? No. It does not have good romance at this point. There is this childhood friend who is in love with this cake, but she didn't realize her feelings until the cake is about to be taken by this demon like girl with horns coming from nowhere as you would expect in anime. Also there is a strong indication that one of the girls like another girl in a pro hetero world to instigate conflict. Romance and questionable piloting aside, it's not bad though. Japan already took the waifu bait as the childhood friend's stock skyrocketed after episode 5. Now it's time for the demon like girl to stake further claim over her cake in the next episode. That aside, the entertainment value is pretty good. The first couple of episodes were between bad and average. The last couple of episodes have been between very good and excellent. Episode 6 could be a blast and probably become the pivot for the anime. But you should really ask these sort of questions in the boards dedicated for a particular anime of concern. Since I posted anyways, mecha is dead because fans lost their passion for Gundam which is why Sunrise have been trying to revive the passion by targeting the younger generation of fans with gunpla anime but it hasn't worked. The low numbers for IBO is a proof. No matter how I see it, unlike Gundam which relies on with political conflicts and differences in ideologies to move the plot, stand alone mecha anime can only attract fans with cheap fanservices and/or waifu baits. There are exceptions but very few and far between. Shots have been fired. |
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| not knowing the meaning of mecha doesn't mean it's unpopular, just say "giant robots fighting each other" instead. mecha is unpopular? how so? what about eva, code geass, gundam, gurren lagann, eureka and the rest? all of them are pretty popular and heavily-loved. there aren't a lot of mecha series either so I wouldn't be surprised if I didn't see a lot of mecha series in MAL's top. |
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StarSwoardsman said: I'm not a meccha fan myself. The biggest reason is that it just seems like mindless entertainment. Only Neon Genesis Evangelion (a deconstruction of the meccha genre) Code Geass (not truly meccha either), Gurren Lagan and FLCL (also not truly meccha) do something interesting with it. I could not stand Aldnoah Zero and stopped watching after two episodes. Though, I'm going to watch Macross soon. This is pretty ironic since your complaint is mindless entertainment and yet placed Lagann and FLCL as exceptions. |
Brb said: Neither of those are mindless entertainment.StarSwoardsman said: I'm not a meccha fan myself. The biggest reason is that it just seems like mindless entertainment. Only Neon Genesis Evangelion (a deconstruction of the meccha genre) Code Geass (not truly meccha either), Gurren Lagan and FLCL (also not truly meccha) do something interesting with it. I could not stand Aldnoah Zero and stopped watching after two episodes. Though, I'm going to watch Macross soon. This is pretty ironic since your complaint is mindless entertainment and yet placed Lagann and FLCL as exceptions. Gurren Lagann is actually a very mature story of growing up and going after your goals. The character development of Simon was extremely well done and there are some nice themes. FLCL is a masterpiece. It's about puberty and masculinity. It uses its insane nature as a mask what it's deeper inner workings. Most people don't even truly realize what it is about. |
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| Code Geass, Gurren Lagann, and Evengayleeyen are really popular. |
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| When I hear "Mecha" I immediately think of giant robots fighting each other transformers style. If transformers isn't your thing then mecha can sound really unappealing at first. I've watched Rakuen Tsuihou, Date a Live, and Frame Arms Girl which all three are tagged mecha, they originally turned me off as I expected transformers style. In the end I ended up enjoying them as much as other shows. Maybe mecha should be associated less with giant robots fighting each other, and more with other themes. If I can find more shows/movies like the abovementioned then I might become a fan of the mecha genre over time. |
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| Because people don't like the war/politics aesthetic. I think it's that. I think. Because Gurren Lagann and Code Geass were popular af and both didn't have that aesthetic (Code Geass did a bit, but it also had heavy supernatural elements and flashy mind games, so...). Haven't seen Eva yet, but I know it's different from your normal mecha show. |
| there is nothing to it. when you say mecha its just big robots fighting other robots with the power of unexplainable technology and the pilot with most will power wins. you see 2 of them and thats enough |
MaeOrchid said: I think most people get turned off by the genre because it is such an unusual concept in the west (except for stuff like Transformers). Personally, I'm not really a fan of mecha animes because the plot is usually bad (animes like Cross Ange and Kakumeiki Valvrave). Then again, maybe my actual problem is with Sunrise and their love to torture women. Just trust me, those are two pretty trashy shows in general, the mecha has nothing to do with it. Most mecha I've seen had above average plots (Gundam, NGE, Rahxephon, Zegapain, Escaflowne, TTGL, Gunbuster, Patlabor, Giant Robo etc...), just avoid the trashier ones. Or if in doubt just avoid post 2010 mecha that isn't Gundam, just to be on the safe side :>. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| I forgot about Escaflowne. Really good show too. |
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| the problem is that people think all mecha is super robot, which is almost the opposite of the truth at this point people don't see the space opera and war drama because they don't give the genre a chance, and instead say, "it's just giant robots hitting each other" |
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| Because most mecha shows don't look very interesting to me |
| I think it is because : Giant robots - why they are usually for? Fighting. Why do we usually watch action anime? well, for me there are 2 reasons. the action itself. and the action development. ( short example being hunter x hunter, where the action develops along course and the fights tend to be way more intense with refined tecniques ) What I'm trying to say is that USUALLY ( not always please don't flame me ), there is one really op robot and it pretty much dominates the anime, or one guy that can pilot one robot and that guy has the power to make that robot op or usually something individual like that. You could say that yes, other actions anime are like these as well, but as for me, it seems really frustating to just see the protagonist whoop ass or get his ass kicked only because his robot is op, and not because idk he can control it way better. Usually the mecha anime presents a lot of " there are pillots that are better than you and you should respect them, experience is everything " but then the op robot just wrecks it all. |
| alright, time to camp and fight 5v1 StarSwoardsman said: I'm not a meccha fan myself. The biggest reason is that it just seems like mindless entertainment. Only Neon Genesis Evangelion (a deconstruction of the meccha genre) Code Geass (not truly meccha either), Gurren Lagan and FLCL (also not truly meccha) do something interesting with it. I could not stand Aldnoah Zero and stopped watching after two episodes. Though, I'm going to watch Macross soon. >code geass >not truly mecha >ignores that 3 of the largest conflict were settled by mecha fights, and R2 boiled down to which scientist had the better mecha such not truly mecha also like how ttgl, which is probably the most mecha mecha and a homage to the super robot genre and its theme not counted as a mecha 10/10 Ranacchi said: When I hear "Mecha" I immediately think of giant robots fighting each other transformers style. If transformers isn't your thing then mecha can sound really unappealing at first. I've watched Rakuen Tsuihou, Date a Live, and Frame Arms Girl which all three are tagged mecha, they originally turned me off as I expected transformers style. In the end I ended up enjoying them as much as other shows. Maybe mecha should be associated less with giant robots fighting each other, and more with other themes. If I can find more shows/movies like the abovementioned then I might become a fan of the mecha genre over time. except unlike transformers, there's actually people piloting said robots and the robots arent sentient? also, the only people who associate giant robots fighting each other are ignorant cunts like you peeps who dont know wtf you are talking about you know what most mecha fans think of when they hear mecha: politics, romances, war the fcking irony is so strong with this one Shion said: Because people don't like the war/politics aesthetic. I think it's that. I think. Because Gurren Lagann and Code Geass were popular af and both didn't have that aesthetic (Code Geass did a bit, but it also had heavy supernatural elements and flashy mind games, so...). Haven't seen Eva yet, but I know it's different from your normal mecha show. you do realise that gundam, that one mecha franchise, probably have just as much if not more supernatural elements stuff called newtypes right?? same with mind games, just less flashy |
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Scarlett_ryuken said: alright, time to camp and fight 5v1 StarSwoardsman said: I'm not a meccha fan myself. The biggest reason is that it just seems like mindless entertainment. Only Neon Genesis Evangelion (a deconstruction of the meccha genre) Code Geass (not truly meccha either), Gurren Lagan and FLCL (also not truly meccha) do something interesting with it. I could not stand Aldnoah Zero and stopped watching after two episodes. Though, I'm going to watch Macross soon. >code geass >not truly mecha >ignores that 3 of the largest conflict were settled by mecha fights, and R2 boiled down to which scientist had the better mecha such not truly mecha also like how ttgl, which is probably the most mecha mecha and a homage to the super robot genre and its theme not counted as a mecha 10/10 I never said that Gurren Lagan was not truly Meccha LMAO. I said that about Code Geass and FLCL. To me, Code Geass is an anime that mixes all genres. Meccha just happens to be one of them. I classify Code Geass as a psychological science fiction action adventure. They just happen to fight with mecchas. |
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Scarlett_ryuken said: except unlike transformers, there's actually people piloting said robots and the robots arent sentient? also, the only people who associate giant robots fighting each other are ignorant cunts like you peeps who dont know wtf you are talking about you know what most mecha fans think of when they hear mecha: politics, romances, war the fcking irony is so strong with this one To get back on topic, what is your answer to why mecha could be seen as unpopular? I've done a quick ctrl F and couldn't find a reply of yours attempting to answer the poster's question. |
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StarSwoardsman said: Scarlett_ryuken said: alright, time to camp and fight 5v1 >code geass >not truly mecha >ignores that 3 of the largest conflict were settled by mecha fights, and R2 boiled down to which scientist had the better mecha such not truly mecha also like how ttgl, which is probably the most mecha mecha and a homage to the super robot genre and its theme not counted as a mecha 10/10 I never said that Gurren Lagan was not truly Meccha LMAO. I said that about Code Geass and FLCL. To me, Code Geass is an anime that mixes all genres. Meccha just happens to be one of them. I classify Code Geass as a psychological science fiction action adventure. They just happen to fight with mecchas. except minus the psychological, and even then depending on which series and which studio most mechas are exactly that tho? the total mecha fight screentime in geass is about the same as E7 which is again exactly what you described real robot genre wise, they all prob have as much if not more depth than geass so stfu with geass being an exception |
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Ranacchi said: Scarlett_ryuken said: except unlike transformers, there's actually people piloting said robots and the robots arent sentient? also, the only people who associate giant robots fighting each other are ignorant cunts like you peeps who dont know wtf you are talking about you know what most mecha fans think of when they hear mecha: politics, romances, war the fcking irony is so strong with this one To get back on topic, what is your answer to why mecha could be seen as unpopular? I've done a quick ctrl F and couldn't find a reply of yours attempting to answer the poster's question. i made an exact same thread that pullman linked, but ill rephrase and repost one quick one cause people are shallow and think all mecha are mindless entartainment when over 70% prob enjoy aot to some degree |
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