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Feb 1, 2018 9:33 AM

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Jk9 said:
Yeah it's always like that, the person who didn't seem to have a qualification to be a master, always gets a miracle and get the best servant (you know how Shirou or even Sieg get the power of their servants)...And now I'm confused, I'm really sure that this occur after Fate/Zero, but with Fate/Stay Night I'm not sure, there is Rin, Shinji, Sakura, and even Archer from Fate/Stay Night, but I don't really know, is this a new series and is there a relation with the other Fate series?
And for me the entrance of Saber in this show is still the best and the most elegant one, comparing to the other Fate series (ya if you remember how Weaver Velvet summon Rider from Fate/Zero).


I'm starting to think that people who consider that for example, Shirou getting Arturia is a Deus Ex, didn't watched the anime at all. Like. even if you watched the glorified Fate/Zero you would know that Avalon was implanted inside Shirou body by Kiritsugu just like it was with Kiritsugu and Iri. And it works as a catalyst just like Kiritsugu did it But as soon a regular MC ( and saying regular it's too much because imho Shirou isn't close as regular or typical MC ) it's plot armor lol.

But Hakuno did qualified to be a master? And he doesn't have the best servant, regardless of Saber class being the 'strongest' ones.

About the FSN characters,
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I did read somewhere that Nasu intended to make Last Encore accessible to both newcomers and people who have played the Fate/Extra PSP game, giving them a "what?" reaction. I don't know how nips reacted to this, but the whole atmosphere and mystery of LE backfired really bad against the pontual flaws of the show, at least in the west.

The Fate adaptations by ufotable (Zero and UBW) both started with double episodes, covering in them almost only exposition, explaining the world, the mechanics, the main characters, etcetera. While I'm against starting a show with spoonfed exposition, it seems to not affect the mainstream audience at all. I don't know if it's a trend in entertainment media or a misconception of mine, but I find that people these days pay less attention to what they are watching, yet are in a hurry to know everything and be ahead of the story. This produces titles such as Mahoutsukai no Yome and Violet Evergarden (here this is more evident), where the story must ruminate over the same ideas in an attempt to make sure the audience don't miss anything, even if somebody happens to spend five minutes or so messing with their phone while watching the show. What I described is very common in Latin telenovelas, and it really made me think how some of these recent anime oriented to "adult audiences" share quite a bunch of similarities with them.

Now with Last Encore itself, I think Nasu needed to be a little more "attention-friendly" with the script. As it is, the first episode is something to be watched with full attention, and then given time to age on your head. Some details very important to suspension of disbelief got only covered indirectly, and Nasu trusted too much on the audience's capacity of exploring the information given and getting to the right conclusion. One good example of this is the sequence where Shinji stabs Hakuno. Some buddies already explained here what happened, but even so, this seemed to be a major point of disbelief I saw around many reactions on the show, where people didn't accept the idea that Hakuno could still be alive. A more friendly approach would go a long way, but even so, I think that for a show that intended to be mysterious and intriguing, the hints given were more than enough in this case (for example, why would a real, meat and bone body flash something resembling an electronic noise?). With suspension of disbelief killed, people are given more space to nitpick in otherwise pontual mistakes, such as Rin's hair, or the blood in Hakuno's face. The results are what we are currently seeing here.
Feb 1, 2018 9:58 AM

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agendator said:


Now with Last Encore itself, I think Nasu needed to be a little more "attention-friendly" with the script. As it is, the first episode is something to be watched with full attention, and then given time to age on your head. Some details very important to suspension of disbelief got only covered indirectly, and Nasu trusted too much on the audience's capacity of exploring the information given and getting to the right conclusion. One good example of this is the sequence where Shinji stabs Hakuno. Some buddies already explained here what happened, but even so, this seemed to be a major point of disbelief I saw around many reactions on the show, where people didn't accept the idea that Hakuno could still be alive. A more friendly approach would go a long way, but even so, I think that for a show that intended to be mysterious and intriguing, the hints given were more than enough in this case (for example, why would a real, meat and bone body flash something resembling an electronic noise?). With suspension of disbelief killed, people are given more space to nitpick in otherwise pontual mistakes, such as Rin's hair, or the blood in Hakuno's face. The results are what we are currently seeing here.



1. In Fate/Extra game, in the first part of the game where the events of the first episode happen, nothing, NOTHING is explained, is just after Hakuno-Hakunon gets to invoke the servant and starts the HGW where stuffs are explained. This means we will get answers the next episode

2. Hakuno DID died, this is highlighted when you see that Shinji was selected as a Master, the reason of WHY he's alive is going to be explained later, but I'm sure if you or others paid attention at the end of the episode, certain character made something to get him back.

3. What's the problem with THIS Rin's hair? And what's with Hakuno's face covered in blood? Wouldn't you get blood in your face if you fall in a hole? Or get stabbed and your face touches the blood that there's in the floor?

i'm pretty sure that those questions can and have to be answered later on the show, just like they were answered later in the game.

I don't find anything of what happened in the first episode a mistake or something that needed to be more explained so people would be more comfortable with the show. I'm sure that what Nasu wanted was achieved in the first episode. Which was to get the interest of both new and experienced Extra players spectators.

Feb 1, 2018 11:30 AM

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It still blows my mind how people still cant get what was going on when it was clearly explained.

Lets explain everything in the first ep guys.Explore all mysteries, develop all characters, beat the OP guy at the start and reach a happy ending in 20 mins.
Feb 1, 2018 11:32 AM

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Veromaye said:
agendator said:


Now with Last Encore itself, I think Nasu needed to be a little more "attention-friendly" with the script. As it is, the first episode is something to be watched with full attention, and then given time to age on your head. Some details very important to suspension of disbelief got only covered indirectly, and Nasu trusted too much on the audience's capacity of exploring the information given and getting to the right conclusion. One good example of this is the sequence where Shinji stabs Hakuno. Some buddies already explained here what happened, but even so, this seemed to be a major point of disbelief I saw around many reactions on the show, where people didn't accept the idea that Hakuno could still be alive. A more friendly approach would go a long way, but even so, I think that for a show that intended to be mysterious and intriguing, the hints given were more than enough in this case (for example, why would a real, meat and bone body flash something resembling an electronic noise?). With suspension of disbelief killed, people are given more space to nitpick in otherwise pontual mistakes, such as Rin's hair, or the blood in Hakuno's face. The results are what we are currently seeing here.



1. In Fate/Extra game, in the first part of the game where the events of the first episode happen, nothing, NOTHING is explained, is just after Hakuno-Hakunon gets to invoke the servant and starts the HGW where stuffs are explained. This means we will get answers the next episode

2. Hakuno DID died, this is highlighted when you see that Shinji was selected as a Master, the reason of WHY he's alive is going to be explained later, but I'm sure if you or others paid attention at the end of the episode, certain character made something to get him back.

3. What's the problem with THIS Rin's hair? And what's with Hakuno's face covered in blood? Wouldn't you get blood in your face if you fall in a hole? Or get stabbed and your face touches the blood that there's in the floor?

i'm pretty sure that those questions can and have to be answered later on the show, just like they were answered later in the game.

I don't find anything of what happened in the first episode a mistake or something that needed to be more explained so people would be more comfortable with the show. I'm sure that what Nasu wanted was achieved in the first episode. Which was to get the interest of both new and experienced Extra players spectators.



I think I worded my post not clearly enough. My bad.

1- I haven't played the game, but I'm satisfied enough with the way things were presented in the anime. But that doesn't seems to be a consensus among the people who watched it. When I meant Nasu needed to be a little more "attention-friendly", it was in the sense of making the anime more friendly to a wider (newcomer to Fate/Extra) audience, as he himself said.

2- I didn't mean to say that Hakuno didn't die, I meant that many people didn't understand why he was alive after that, and dismissed suspension of disbelief even when it was hinted in the show indirectly that yes, being alive (again) in that situation was possible.

3- I pointed out a few mistakes that happened with the animation production. For example, when Rin appears after the chess game, her hair has a red tint behind her neck, which is corrected in the next scene, where they go to the infirmary. About blood on Hakuno's face, there are a few frames where he appears without the blood on his face, and then the blood comes back again. These small "errors" are understandable, but when something like what I mentioned in item 2 happens, people tend to nitpick them more and use them to shit on the anime. Which, if you speedread a few of the comments here, is just what happened.

I mostly agree with you, I think that what was done was good enough. Also I'm totally looking forward to it. Hell, this is the first time I don't get completely bored watching the first episode of a Fate anime. To be honest, I've watched episode one two times already.
See all these people shitting on the animation quality and such? That's what I was talking about. Last Encore is pretty much on the same quality level of Bakemonogatari and Madoka (TV versions), yet many people make it sound like it's one of the worst things Shaft has ever done. Why? Read my first post (again).
Feb 1, 2018 11:32 AM

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agendator said:
I did read somewhere that Nasu intended to make Last Encore accessible to both newcomers and people who have played the Fate/Extra PSP game, giving them a "what?" reaction. I don't know how nips reacted to this, but the whole atmosphere and mystery of LE backfired really bad against the pontual flaws of the show, at least in the west.

The Fate adaptations by ufotable (Zero and UBW) both started with double episodes, covering in them almost only exposition, explaining the world, the mechanics, the main characters, etcetera. While I'm against starting a show with spoonfed exposition, it seems to not affect the mainstream audience at all. I don't know if it's a trend in entertainment media or a misconception of mine, but I find that people these days pay less attention to what they are watching, yet are in a hurry to know everything and be ahead of the story. This produces titles such as Mahoutsukai no Yome and Violet Evergarden (here this is more evident), where the story must ruminate over the same ideas in an attempt to make sure the audience don't miss anything, even if somebody happens to spend five minutes or so messing with their phone while watching the show. What I described is very common in Latin telenovelas, and it really made me think how some of these recent anime oriented to "adult audiences" share quite a bunch of similarities with them.

Now with Last Encore itself, I think Nasu needed to be a little more "attention-friendly" with the script. As it is, the first episode is something to be watched with full attention, and then given time to age on your head. Some details very important to suspension of disbelief got only covered indirectly, and Nasu trusted too much on the audience's capacity of exploring the information given and getting to the right conclusion. One good example of this is the sequence where Shinji stabs Hakuno. Some buddies already explained here what happened, but even so, this seemed to be a major point of disbelief I saw around many reactions on the show, where people didn't accept the idea that Hakuno could still be alive. A more friendly approach would go a long way, but even so, I think that for a show that intended to be mysterious and intriguing, the hints given were more than enough in this case (for example, why would a real, meat and bone body flash something resembling an electronic noise?). With suspension of disbelief killed, people are given more space to nitpick in otherwise pontual mistakes, such as Rin's hair, or the blood in Hakuno's face. The results are what we are currently seeing here.

I think the same, this show requires alot of attention, but as someone who played extra, I'm loving this approach, but admittedly it may not be something that everyone finds apealing.
Also believe it or not but Rin's hair is also like that in the character design for the anime (that whole redish effect to the hair) so it's not a mistake. And well Hakuno missing blood in a frame would be fixed in the BR version... hopefully
Feb 1, 2018 11:40 AM

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RedKaZero said:
I think the same, This show requires alot of attention, but as someone who played extra, I'm loving this approach, But admittedly it may not be something that everyone finds apealing.
Also Believe it or not but Rin's hair is also like that in the character design for the anime (that whole redish effect to the hair) so it's not a mistake. And well Hakuno missing blood in a frame would be fixed in the BR version... hopefully


Strange. Because like I mentioned in a post above you, the red tint goes away in the infirmary scene, so I really thought of it as a mistake, just like a bunch of people.

Shaft is known for making a lot of fixes in BD version, so expect that corrected. Also the "pokemon filter" will be gone, so it's more than enough reason to be looking forward to it.
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agendator said:


Shaft is known for making a lot of fixes in BD version, so expect that corrected. Also the "pokemon filter" will be gone, so it's more than enough reason to be looking forward to it.


The neflix version is out and it removed the filter.
Feb 1, 2018 11:51 AM

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Theorder14 said:

The neflix version is out and it removed the filter.


Good to know. When it was released?
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agendator said:
RedKaZero said:
I think the same, This show requires alot of attention, but as someone who played extra, I'm loving this approach, But admittedly it may not be something that everyone finds apealing.
Also Believe it or not but Rin's hair is also like that in the character design for the anime (that whole redish effect to the hair) so it's not a mistake. And well Hakuno missing blood in a frame would be fixed in the BR version... hopefully


Strange. Because like I mentioned in a post above you, the red tint goes away in the infirmary scene, so I really thought it as a mistake, just like a bunch of people.

Shaft is known for making a lot of fixes in BD version, so expect that corrected. Also the "pokemon filter" will be gone, so it's more than enough reason to be looking forward to it.

My bad I mixed the red tint with the white tint she has at the end of her hair... http://fate-extra-lastencore.com/character/
But the red tint apears in 2 different frames so I think it may be intentional but who knows...
Edit: Nvm it definetely was a mistake on animation part as the 3rd time they show rin in the same scene the tint goes away
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agendator said:
Theorder14 said:

The neflix version is out and it removed the filter.


Good to know. When it was released?

It was released like 2-3 days ago. It's exclusive for netflix jap though
Feb 1, 2018 12:01 PM
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WORST.FATE.SERIES.EVER!!!
Feb 1, 2018 12:19 PM

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tommy416 said:
WORST.FATE.SERIES.EVER!!!


No fate series is worse than Apocrypha
Feb 1, 2018 2:15 PM

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It still blows my mind how people still cant get what was going on when it was clearly explained.

Lets explain everything in the first ep guys.Explore all mysteries, develop all characters, beat the OP guy at the start and reach a happy ending in 20 mins.


Okay, please do that.

Question #1:
How was a regular-sized and built teenager such as Hakuno able to carry a similarly sized corpse down 50 billion flights of stairs into "limbo" without even losing his breath at the bottom?

Question #2:
How was the same regular-sized teenager able to travel down the same 50 billion flights of stairs after receiving multiple stab wounds to his stomach and back?

Question #3:
How was this same mortally injured teenager able to survive a further drop of several hundred feet onto solid stone after the "limbo" floor collapsed?

Question #4:
How did this mangled teenager still have enough vitality to stand up and pick up a 6 foot sword that would've presumably weighted several hundred pounds with one hand?

Question #5:
When was it ever established in Fate/Extra that NPCs and everyone else at the academy was purged prior to the tournament by gratuitous gore-porn?
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Who else got flashbacks of this hideous creature:


I can see why we needed the geniuses at Shaft to adapt this series. Clearly they are a huge improvement on ufotable.
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I have trolled over a thousand users
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It was pretty messy. Definitely not the best first ep of this season.
I'm watching anime since 2012. I also play games, sometimes.

Don't bother me if you want to 'become friends' or things like that.
It's tiresome. I know you just want to collect some meaningless numbers.
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TrueKireiPriest said:
ssjokg said:
It still blows my mind how people still cant get what was going on when it was clearly explained.

Lets explain everything in the first ep guys.Explore all mysteries, develop all characters, beat the OP guy at the start and reach a happy ending in 20 mins.


Okay, please do that.

Question #1:
How was a regular-sized and built teenager such as Hakuno able to carry a similarly sized corpse down 50 billion flights of stairs into "limbo" without even losing his breath at the bottom?

Question #2:
How was the same regular-sized teenager able to travel down the same 50 billion flights of stairs after receiving multiple stab wounds to his stomach and back?

Question #3:
How was this same mortally injured teenager able to survive a further drop of several hundred feet onto solid stone after the "limbo" floor collapsed?

Question #4:
How did this mangled teenager still have enough vitality to stand up and pick up a 6 foot sword that would've presumably weighted several hundred pounds with one hand?

Question #5:
When was it ever established in Fate/Extra that NPCs and everyone else at the academy was purged prior to the tournament by gratuitous gore-porn?


Why would ANYONE survive for more than a few minutes without a heart?
Why would someone with peak human refleces lose to a teenager with a sharp knife?
Why would they throw away any chance to win in a war full of kids?


Go troll somewhere else.
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Why would ANYONE survive for more than a few minutes without a heart?
Why would someone with peak human refleces lose to a teenager with a sharp knife?
Why would they throw away any chance to win in a war full of kids?


Because poor writing.

I'll take that as an admission that you believe the same is true for the first episode of Fate/Extra.
I am the Priest of my church
Yuetsu is my body, and wine is my blood
I have trolled over a thousand users
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So as I rejoice, Unlimited Kirei Works!
Feb 1, 2018 3:22 PM

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TrueKireiPriest said:


Who else got flashbacks of this hideous creature:


I can see why we needed the geniuses at Shaft to adapt this series. Clearly they are a huge improvement on ufotable.

Your first 4 questions have been answered previously(or will be answered by the anime as they are game spoiler)
As for question 5, this was exactly the case in the extra game just that the gore was not shown.
As for the artstyle, it's understandable that it may not be for everyone, but the artstyle is subjective.
You may not like it but that doesn't make it bad by any means...
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RedKaZero said:

As for question 5, this was exactly the case in the extra game just that the gore was not shown.

I must've missed the part in the game where it was implied everyone at the academy was speared to death instead of just hitting the delete button.

RedKaZero said:

Your first 4 questions have been answered previously(or will be answered by the anime as they are game spoiler)

I don't think it's a spoiler to say that human anatomy (or simulated human anatomy) could not do this.
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Yuetsu is my body, and wine is my blood
I have trolled over a thousand users
Unknown to sympathy, nor known to apathy
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Yet, my question will never be answered
So as I rejoice, Unlimited Kirei Works!
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As for the artstyle, it's understandable that it may not be for everyone, but the artstyle is subjective.
You may not like it but that doesn't make it bad by any means...

Don't push your postmodern nonsense on me, boy. If the art is trash then it's trash. No sense in hiding your repulsion and attempting to "see the beauty in another point of view".

If this was the case then why evaluate any work of art like a movie or show? Nothing is bad; it's just a "different style"
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Yuetsu is my body, and wine is my blood
I have trolled over a thousand users
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Withstood Shirou to eat Mapo Tofu
Yet, my question will never be answered
So as I rejoice, Unlimited Kirei Works!
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So a poorly written character is going around pointing fingers to other potentianlly poorly wriiten characters.

Makes fucking sense.

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I see... it's a bait... oh well
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So a poorly written character is going around pointing fingers to other potentianlly poorly wriiten characters.

Makes fucking sense.


The only poorly written part of me is that I did not win the Holy Grail War in every route.
However, one cannot expect too much from Nasu
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Yuetsu is my body, and wine is my blood
I have trolled over a thousand users
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Withstood Shirou to eat Mapo Tofu
Yet, my question will never be answered
So as I rejoice, Unlimited Kirei Works!
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Fate title by Shaft... Dropped
Feb 1, 2018 4:25 PM
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SHAFT is a joke, they correct errors in BD version to sell more copies but these errors should not appear in the first place.
Where is the blood on Hakuno's face? Certainly they will correct this in BD version. But what's the point to make this error? I don't understand.
https://i.imgur.com/vO1u9pn.png

This's really not a good idea to sell BD copies, and SHAFT had to do this every time.

https://i.imgur.com/T7q3aLy.png
Miwa's sakuga is pretty good though. Thanks to the Aniplex, the only good thing about SHAFT is they got connections to some freelance animators. So you can expect some great animators helping them, take Kizumonogatari as an example.
If they don't have a good distribution company, I'm saying Aniplex. SHAFT itself is a trash studio with full of weirdos.
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RedKaZero said:
TrueKireiPriest said:


Who else got flashbacks of this hideous creature:


I can see why we needed the geniuses at Shaft to adapt this series. Clearly they are a huge improvement on ufotable.

Your first 4 questions have been answered previously(or will be answered by the anime as they are game spoiler)
As for question 5, this was exactly the case in the extra game just that the gore was not shown.
As for the artstyle, it's understandable that it may not be for everyone, but the artstyle is subjective.
You may not like it but that doesn't make it bad by any means...

That's not from ufotable. It's another trash studio called SILVER LINK.
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TrueKireiPriest said:
RedKaZero said:

As for question 5, this was exactly the case in the extra game just that the gore was not shown.

I must've missed the part in the game where it was implied everyone at the academy was speared to death instead of just hitting the delete button.

RedKaZero said:

Your first 4 questions have been answered previously(or will be answered by the anime as they are game spoiler)

I don't think it's a spoiler to say that human anatomy (or simulated human anatomy) could not do this.

If i remember correctly most of student die in the test, there's no blood thorough, they just became so stone.

He actually is a NPC in the game based on a real person, his name is show to disappear so he probably just respawn, it's probably the plot armor in the anime, every Fate protagonist as some kinda of armor that save him for certain death, Shirou have Avalon, Ritsuka have Mash, Kitsurugi have luck, Sieg have bad written
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At worst episode 1 was a great filter, if I'm right most of the people shitting on Last Encore won't bother coming back. I only want to know if nips are having a similar reaction, since they are the relevant audience.
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Fate title by Shaft... Dropped

Are you joking or not? If not, then that's a stupid reason to drop it.

Help, I'm hooked into the Fate series (not all) and am obsessed with Shirou x Saber!
Also, forever hoping for a ufotable remake of the Fate route!
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Centurionzo_12 said:
TrueKireiPriest said:

I must've missed the part in the game where it was implied everyone at the academy was speared to death instead of just hitting the delete button.


I don't think it's a spoiler to say that human anatomy (or simulated human anatomy) could not do this.

If i remember correctly most of student die in the test, there's no blood thorough, they just became so stone.

He actually is a NPC in the game based on a real person, his name is show to disappear so he probably just respawn, it's probably the plot armor in the anime, every Fate protagonist as some kinda of armor that save him for certain death, Shirou have Avalon, Ritsuka have Mash, Kitsurugi have luck, Sieg have bad written

The show added gory deaths to be edgy to all the dumb and stupid fans that like dumb and stupid violence. They are trying to be edgy like Unlimited Blade Works. Maybe if this show attempted to take a more adult approach like the original anime then it would actually focus on substance.

Plot armor is always used to protect the naive and half-witted protagonist in the Fate series. Rather than actually dealing with the unforgiving reality, plot conveniences somehow save the day and confirm a simplistic worldview that could never actually work in the real world. It has plagued Fate for years. Hopefully my involvement in Fate/Extra will stop this trend just like I did in the original game. My ultimate plan will shatter these delusions.
I am the Priest of my church
Yuetsu is my body, and wine is my blood
I have trolled over a thousand users
Unknown to sympathy, nor known to apathy
Withstood Shirou to eat Mapo Tofu
Yet, my question will never be answered
So as I rejoice, Unlimited Kirei Works!
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>They are trying to be edgy like Unlimited Blade Works.

*looks at Zero*

okay

Gudao said:
SHAFT is a joke, they correct errors in BD version to sell more copies but these errors should not appear in the first place.
Where is the blood on Hakuno's face? Certainly they will correct this in BD version. But what's the point to make this error? I don't understand.
https://i.imgur.com/vO1u9pn.png

This's really not a good idea to sell BD copies, and SHAFT had to do this every time.

https://i.imgur.com/T7q3aLy.png
Miwa's sakuga is pretty good though. Thanks to the Aniplex, the only good thing about SHAFT is they got connections to some freelance animators. So you can expect some great animators helping them, take Kizumonogatari as an example.
If they don't have a good distribution company, I'm saying Aniplex. SHAFT itself is a trash studio with full of weirdos.


Have you seen ufotable's mistakes?

I am not one to trash them but they forgot to add kirei's wound in the TV version, forgot Kiritsugu's command spells, Feast of Kings was kek worthy etc etc.

So plz.


Also a company tries to SELL to YOU a BETTER product while you watch a LQ one for free.

DAMN THE!!! DAMN THEM ALLL!!!
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I like Shaft's style with this kind of anime. It goes really well. I'm still kind of confused as to what this setting exactly is. Shinji is still an ass, I see (at least some things never change lmao). I kind of wish they didn't include characters that we've already seen. Can't they do a new cast of characters for once?





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I like Shaft's style with this kind of anime. It goes really well. I'm still kind of confused as to what this setting exactly is. Shinji is still an ass, I see (at least some things never change lmao). I kind of wish they didn't include characters that we've already seen. Can't they do a new cast of characters for once?
They are new.Kinda.
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ssjokg said:
Zelev said:
I like Shaft's style with this kind of anime. It goes really well. I'm still kind of confused as to what this setting exactly is. Shinji is still an ass, I see (at least some things never change lmao). I kind of wish they didn't include characters that we've already seen. Can't they do a new cast of characters for once?
They are new.Kinda.


True but these more well-known characters always make appearances and it's annoying. Like were Rin, Shinji, and Sakura really necessary?





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Zelev said:
ssjokg said:
They are new.Kinda.


True but these more well-known characters always make appearances and it's annoying. Like were Rin, Shinji, and Sakura really necessary?

Yes.They are characters that share appearence and character traits
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>They are trying to be edgy like Unlimited Blade Works.

*looks at Zero*

Ah, but FakePriest you forget yourself. Fate/Zero is a serious show, their are no angsty, childish main characters, that runs off and have their fan service moments with lolis. Fate/Zero deals with mature and adult themes, so it has the right to be dark, unlike Unlimited Blade Works and this show that use gore to make it dark and edgy.
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Yuetsu is my body, and wine is my blood
I have trolled over a thousand users
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Withstood Shirou to eat Mapo Tofu
Yet, my question will never be answered
So as I rejoice, Unlimited Kirei Works!
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It's been a day and I know you were around in the site long after I posted that. Are you lonely?What happened?
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Zelev said:


True but these more well-known characters always make appearances and it's annoying. Like were Rin, Shinji, and Sakura really necessary?

Yes.They are characters that share appearence and character traits
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I see. I guess that does make a difference.





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It's been a day and I know you were around in the site long after I posted that. Are you lonely?What happened?

Come now my friend no need to get so agitated, their is a simple answer; you did not quote me so I had nothing to alert me to your post. Now, I am just telling you my point of view, no need to be so angered by it. This is an attitude I would expect from CookingPriest not you.
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Obviously, I was confused about everything that was going on in the first episode, but since it's only the first episode, I'm sure my questions will be answered at a later point so I'm not gonna write this series off just yet. Although the art style might take a bit of time for me to adjust to.
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Thank you Shaft/Shinbou for making this Fate anime not trash like the last batch from other studios.

Interesting start.
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It still blows my mind how people still cant get what was going on when it was clearly explained.

Lets explain everything in the first ep guys.Explore all mysteries, develop all characters, beat the OP guy at the start and reach a happy ending in 20 mins.


Okay, please do that.

Question #1:
How was a regular-sized and built teenager such as Hakuno able to carry a similarly sized corpse down 50 billion flights of stairs into "limbo" without even losing his breath at the bottom?

Question #2:
How was the same regular-sized teenager able to travel down the same 50 billion flights of stairs after receiving multiple stab wounds to his stomach and back?

Question #3:
How was this same mortally injured teenager able to survive a further drop of several hundred feet onto solid stone after the "limbo" floor collapsed?

Question #4:
How did this mangled teenager still have enough vitality to stand up and pick up a 6 foot sword that would've presumably weighted several hundred pounds with one hand?

Question #5:
When was it ever established in Fate/Extra that NPCs and everyone else at the academy was purged prior to the tournament by gratuitous gore-porn?


These things happen when people ask questions without waiting for more episodes
(All your questions are resolved in the second episode)
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Why does it seem like Hakuno has a seemingly different character designer than the rest of the cast. Everyone has eyes that screams anime compared to him >.> Shinji still a bitch as ever I see..
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TrueKireiPriest said:
ssjokg said:
It still blows my mind how people still cant get what was going on when it was clearly explained.

Lets explain everything in the first ep guys.Explore all mysteries, develop all characters, beat the OP guy at the start and reach a happy ending in 20 mins.


Okay, please do that.

Question #1:
How was a regular-sized and built teenager such as Hakuno able to carry a similarly sized corpse down 50 billion flights of stairs into "limbo" without even losing his breath at the bottom?

Question #2:
How was the same regular-sized teenager able to travel down the same 50 billion flights of stairs after receiving multiple stab wounds to his stomach and back?

Question #3:
How was this same mortally injured teenager able to survive a further drop of several hundred feet onto solid stone after the "limbo" floor collapsed?

Question #4:
How did this mangled teenager still have enough vitality to stand up and pick up a 6 foot sword that would've presumably weighted several hundred pounds with one hand?

Question #5:
When was it ever established in Fate/Extra that NPCs and everyone else at the academy was purged prior to the tournament by gratuitous gore-porn?

This is the perfect example of why the level of attention this episode required was set a tad too high
(first of all...in episode 1...did you ask yourself why after not getting disintegrated and falling all the way down...black electricity surrounds his body then he revives and stands up?)

but gladly if you think it was an oversight...

Question #1:
Watch episode 2

Question #2:
Watch episode 2

Question #3:
Watch episode 3

Question #4:
Have you watched episode 2 yet?

Question #5:
It's not like episode 2 exists or anything XD


(but to be fair I had the same issue but after paying more attention to episode 1 you start seeing things a casual viewer would overlook and not realize are intentionally placed...simple things like Hakuno knowing there was an infirmary and Rin not, the blood filled classroom at the start to show it was business as usual, Shinji's name getting highlighted after killing hakuno, Hakuno not getting disintegrated after showing clearly what happens when someone gets in contact with that black area, Archer smiling after getting wrecked by Nero...)

OK if you need answers on whether him surviving was supposed to make you ask "how" with how much focus there was on him being stabbed and stuff that bad...just skip to the ending scene of ep 2
(I'm just going to ignore some dumb comments I've ssen you make on stuff like UBW cause you're clearly using your ignorance to troll there and it shows lol)
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>They are trying to be edgy like Unlimited Blade Works.

*looks at Zero*

Ah, but FakePriest you forget yourself. Fate/Zero is a serious show, their are no angsty, childish main characters, that runs off and have their fan service moments with lolis. Fate/Zero deals with mature and adult themes, so it has the right to be dark, unlike Unlimited Blade Works and this show that use gore to make it dark and edgy.


I admit, you got me to laugh here. You beat me troll. Godspeed to you!
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didn't really think that was that bad.[/quote]

Yes, yes this is a truth, possibly this was the worst of this episode, but after watching the second all change a little!!! kekeke
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This was a good first episode.

Lol so Shinji is still a dick.

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They should have made Hakuno a Kyon clone. I'd love a snarky bastard that just comments on every little thing happening every 5 seconds.
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