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Dec 30, 2017 11:47 AM
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Like really what can make your brain rest a bit from following the heavy plot of an anime better than some boobies or panty shots? What can make you feal any type of attraction toward a character with no personality or with no redeemable qualities better than some great bath scenes of her ?What can make an Anime with a shitty plot more enjoyable better than naked women? What can make the characters that are already great even greater better than sping house scenes where she is naked ?

Like those are facts but what are your opinion? Doesn't fan service make everything better ? (Of course depending on the amount )
And do you really think think anime would be the same without those hawt scenes ?



Dec 30, 2017 11:50 AM
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Wait until the asexual anime community hears about this.
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I think it only applies if you're from 10 to 17 years old.
Sexualization doesn't "make anime better". Better plots, better animation, better voice acting, better music "make anime better". If anything, fan service is boring and gets disgusting after a while, so it's harder to make quality anime using it. However, it does tend to attract pervs and kids, so it's used profusely.
I'm guessing you were trolling though, so I'll leave it at that.

Edit: Sexualization was so exaggerated it was great in Kill la Kill, but in Guilty Crown, it was unnecessary and just dumbed down the whole anime tbh. I guess I'd draw the line at "is the girl nothing but a sexual object?" - if the answer is yes, then it's garbage. Are the heroines in Kill la Kill sexual objects? No, they're free, they don't care about dudes, they're not plot devices for the male to shine. Guilty Crown? A girl is literally a weapon and basically all girls fall for the hero. It's so stupid I feel insulted by such clichés. Other clichés are fine. Girl can be cute and have huge boobs and be as moe as you want, but pls give her personality or something...
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Dec 30, 2017 11:52 AM
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No it doesn't. Showing panty shots of underaged-looking girls made anime cancerous. Not even hollywood has reached this level of degeneracy.
Dec 30, 2017 11:52 AM
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Paulettelapoule said:
I think it only applies if you're from 10 to 17 years old.
Sexualization doesn't "make anime better". Better plots, better animation, better voice acting, better music "make anime better". If anything, fan service is boring and gets disgusting after a while, so it's harder to make quality anime using it. However, it does tend to attract pervs and kids, so it's used profusely.
I'm guessing you were trolling though, so I'll leave it at that.
as if not 90% of adult TV shows aren't full of fan service lmao
Dec 30, 2017 11:53 AM
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No it doesn't. Showing panty shots of underaged-looking girls made anime cancerous. Not even hollywood has reached this level of degeneracy.

If you don't like what you see, dont watch, the rest of us will sit and enjoy.
Dec 30, 2017 11:55 AM
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MiUltimo said:
No it doesn't. Showing panty shots of underaged-looking girls made anime cancerous. Not even hollywood has reached this level of degeneracy.
excuse me girl would you rather see their vaginas and naked ass?and can't the underage male fan get some fan service of a girl of his age ?what a shame I am so sad that discrimination have gotten so far :(
Dec 30, 2017 12:01 PM
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kirakiii said:
as if not 90% of adult TV shows aren't full of fan service lmao


I don't think it's 90% to be fair. Or it depends what you mean by "fan service". Sexualization and fan service are different things. Fan service can be gore, for example, or gay looking dudes. But if that's what you mean, then 100% of everything is full of fan service.
Dec 30, 2017 12:02 PM
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Paulettelapoule said:
kirakiii said:
as if not 90% of adult TV shows aren't full of fan service lmao


I don't think it's 90% to be fair. Or it depends what you mean by "fan service". Sexualization and fan service are different things. Fan service can be gore, for example, or gay looking dudes. But if that's what you mean, then 100% of everything is full of fan service.
read the title and you will know what type of fanservice I am speaking about
Dec 30, 2017 12:03 PM
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yeah, most definitely

sexy things are good

Dec 30, 2017 12:13 PM

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I hate it. One of the reasons monogatari is cringe sometimes

Dec 30, 2017 12:16 PM

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Agree, we need naked woman in anime.
Dec 30, 2017 12:17 PM

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kirakiii said:
MiUltimo said:
No it doesn't. Showing panty shots of underaged-looking girls made anime cancerous. Not even hollywood has reached this level of degeneracy.
excuse me girl would you rather see their vaginas and naked ass?and can't the underage male fan get some fan service of a girl of his age ?what a shame I am so sad that discrimination have gotten so far :(


Don't straw man arguments, and I might take you a bit more seriously.

This is your argument in a nutshell:

"Oh you mean they're not showing fully naked animations of underage-age girls? Just "innocent" panty shots? Jolly good then!"

Your argument is stupid. Try again troll.

Dec 30, 2017 12:18 PM
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IdleSolution said:
I hate it. One of the reasons monogatari is cringe sometimes
u love it don't lie to yourself
And gatari series are like 60% fan service so....

Nothing better than hot girls and good plot
Dec 30, 2017 12:21 PM
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MiUltimo said:
kirakiii said:
excuse me girl would you rather see their vaginas and naked ass?and can't the underage male fan get some fan service of a girl of his age ?what a shame I am so sad that discrimination have gotten so far :(


Don't straw man arguments, and I might take you a bit more seriously.

This is your argument in a nutshell:

"Oh you mean they're not showing fully naked animations of underage-age girls? Just "innocent" panty shots? Jolly good then!"

Your argument is stupid. Try again troll.

]how can you call me a troll who are you to do that and what if I was troll (I am not) what is wrong with that ?it is 2017 and almost 2018 stop troll shaming
Dec 30, 2017 12:26 PM

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Honestly anime rarely challenges my brain so why would I need to rest it? What from? The complicated plotlines of battle shounen? The episodic, plotless cuteness of moe slice of life shows? The predictable formulaicness of sports anime? The endlessly repetitive shenanigans of rom-coms? The ever-similar pathways of shoujo romances? The mind-numbing pewpew of mecha battles? Where are all these shows that tire out your brain so it needs rest? I'd like to watch some more of those.

Anime is already great for 'resting my brain' 90% of the time tbh. Shows that challenge it are much rarer than shows that allow you to rest it so if anything I'd want more of the former to balance things out a bit. So I have more reasons to actually rest my brain -.-
I probably regret this post by now.
Dec 30, 2017 12:33 PM

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I dont mind fan service or sexualization but the sexual harassment which is prevalent in anime goes too far.
Dec 30, 2017 12:50 PM
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God, we really don't need more fanservice threads, thanks.
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damn this post is just awful in my eyes honestly
Dec 30, 2017 12:56 PM
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Deknijff said:
damn this post is just awful in my eyes honestly

i didn't even read it, i just saw the thread title and responded to that

sky's the limit when you just don't give a shit

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God, we really don't need more fanservice threads, thanks.

inb4 we get another one in an hour or two

Dec 30, 2017 12:57 PM
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Deknijff said:
damn this post is just awful in my eyes honestly
thx I putted all my boredom and heart to make it like dat
Dec 30, 2017 1:01 PM

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Manaban said:
Deknijff said:
damn this post is just awful in my eyes honestly
i didn't even read it

Smh at you Manaban

for shame my friend
kirakiii said:
Deknijff said:
damn this post is just awful in my eyes honestly
thx I putted all my boredom and heart to make it like dat
congrats on reaching your goal I guess
Dec 30, 2017 1:04 PM

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lmao at "rest your brain from heavy anime plot" when anime has the godawful habit of awkward dialogue explaining the plot word-for-word, reiterating actions that literally just happened.
Dec 30, 2017 1:04 PM

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Depends what kind of series it is, some it's warranted and might even enhance the experience, other times it's unecessary and takes away from the series. I've experienced more of the latter though.
Dec 30, 2017 1:19 PM

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I sometimes enjoy eating/drinking poison too.
Dec 30, 2017 1:47 PM

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Make your brain rest from all the heavy plot lmao

What anime really needs is more manservice. Now that would make anime much better :^)
Dec 30, 2017 1:53 PM

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Trying to read that op without getting a headache. Maybe I should rest my brain.

Dec 30, 2017 2:05 PM

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ok i ll answer with simple i dont think so and it might even be the other way around ;)

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Dec 30, 2017 3:59 PM

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To my belief, most definitely yeah. Other than CGDCT, ecchi shows are pretty fun to watch and if you aren't some filthy normie who outright denies ecchi, then you'll get a relaxing and fun time. Watching Monster Musume and To Love-Ru's daily SoL ecchi routine will loosen your stiff shoulders.

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Dec 30, 2017 4:52 PM

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Lol no, it's almost always done in a horrible way. I've seen it all at this point.





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Dec 30, 2017 4:59 PM
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Dec 30, 2017 6:54 PM

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My appreciation for women increases the more ecchi I watch, no joke.
Dec 30, 2017 7:20 PM

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Well yeah I mean I like butts and I like boobs~~
Dec 30, 2017 7:54 PM

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Uhhh is this even a question.

Wait upon reading the comments yes it seems it is.

Not for me though ass and tits 4lyfe, don't care if its a loli, trap, that shit is good.
Dec 31, 2017 3:54 AM

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Ehhh. What kind of forum is this? Again with the sexualization. Kindly pls stop making these.

Anyway, fan service is what anime all about.
Dec 31, 2017 3:59 AM

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I'm a woman so why would fanservice like that appeal to me?

No, I need COCK shots. I want to see the male ass in peak condition. Show me those tight abs; my god what a six pack does to the female libido.

Even fat guys too. They need to show us what they're working with. Where is the fanservice for women?



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Dec 31, 2017 6:39 AM

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MiUltimo said:
No it doesn't. Showing panty shots of underaged-looking girls made anime cancerous.

I used to have a similar opinion before realizing that "lolicons" aren't going to change, or go away, and it might be better for them to have 2D media to satisfy their interests rather than pursue or support media featuring real people. I feel the same way about rape fantasies in yaoi, which, arguably, feed into a lot of shitty stereotypes about gay and bisexual people. Instead of trying to do the impossible and change the nature of an entire genre, it would be easier to support media with the kind of representations we want to see.
Dec 31, 2017 7:29 AM
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I'm a woman so why would fanservice like that appeal to me?

No, I need COCK shots. I want to see the male ass in peak condition. Show me those tight abs; my god what a six pack does to the female libido.

Even fat guys too. They need to show us what they're working with. Where is the fanservice for women?




There's shows like Free and shit I guess

Exercise the right to consumer capitalism and try to support series that have manservice, lol. If more females did that to the extent at which people supported series based on things like sexualization then I doubt the market wouldn't take turn :P

Then again afaik most of the females who like anime and demand sexy things tend to be fujos so that might be where a lot of your resources are sinking into

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Manaban said:
_Poochyena_ said:
I'm a woman so why would fanservice like that appeal to me?

No, I need COCK shots. I want to see the male ass in peak condition. Show me those tight abs; my god what a six pack does to the female libido.

Even fat guys too. They need to show us what they're working with. Where is the fanservice for women?




There's shows like Free and shit I guess

Exercise the right to consumer capitalism and try to support series that have manservice, lol. If more females did that to the extent at which people supported series based on things like sexualization then I doubt the market wouldn't take turn :P

Then again afaik most of the females who like anime and demand sexy things tend to be fujos so that might be where a lot of your resources are sinking into


Yeah, I'm not a fan of yaoi so outside of shows aimed towards fujoshis, we don't really get alot of manservice, do we? :(
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Some watchers are able to filter out the ecchi while watching a show, or they just don't care or roll their eyes because it has been overused so far, so for them any fault in the plot is still visible even with an ecchi packaging.

Ecchi is a genre, animes with no ecchi will naturally rely on their other themes and story genres. Animes with no ecchi have always existed, still exist and will always exist, it's just the ratio of them which varies over the years.

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kirakiii said:
Like really what can make your brain rest a bit from following the heavy plot of an anime better than some boobies or panty shots? What can make you feal any type of attraction toward a character with no personality or with no redeemable qualities better than some great bath scenes of her ?What can make an Anime with a shitty plot more enjoyable better than naked women? What can make the characters that are already great even greater better than sping house scenes where she is naked ?

Like those are facts but what are your opinion? Doesn't fan service make everything better ? (Of course depending on the amount )
And do you really think think anime would be the same without those hawt scenes ?



If you don't watch anime for the plot and don't give a shit about the characters, then this probably makes sense.
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Depend on the anime. Ghost in the shell season 1, Major clothes while sexy, made it hard to take her seriously and make the audience question; why no pants?

Kill la kill the fan service is great since it add to how crazy and hilarious the anime is.

Fan service is no different from comedy or action. Simply having it does not make any anime better, is how it utilized.
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Depend on the anime. Ghost in the shell season 1, Major clothes while sexy, made it hard to take her seriously and make the audience question; why no pants?

Kill la kill the fan service is great since it add to how crazy and hilarious the anime is.

Fan service is no different from comedy or action. Simply having it does not make any anime better, is how it utilized.
Disagree. A slipped boob, for example, if it's commented on and incorporated as part of the plot, is not the kind of fanservice people usually dismiss. Actually, it's questionable whether that counts as fanservice at all. Instead, fanservice is a phenomenon in anime where they sexualize scenes that have nothing to do with anything sexual in order to sell more DVDs (because the hardcore anime fans that spend lots of money on anime are the perverts, I guess).

Examples include:
-A female character is talking, but the camera is on her legs.
-A high school character is introduced as a modest, completely normal female, but the camera pans over her entire body and focuses on her breasts.
-A female character's breasts slip out to show the audience, but no one in the show even notices or comments (because it's not part of the plot).
-Characters wear revealing clothing (e.g. Ghost in the Shell, and transform mech anime) for no reason.
-Random upskirt shots that doesn't add characterization.

Some shows comment on this by breaking the 4th wall and laughing at itself, or if a character is "sexy" and introduced as such, or there's a running gag. Even for those shows, and other shows that don't have a sexy character in the plot, there are sexualized shots that don't contribute to the plot. That is fanservice. Since Kill la Kill comments on those ridiculous uniforms, and it is part of a running gag, it is somewhat justifiable. It is part of the plot. By definition, fanservice is utilized in a way where it's not part of the plot.
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Disagree. A slipped boob, for example, if it's commented on and incorporated as part of the plot, is not the kind of fanservice people usually dismiss. Actually, it's questionable whether that counts as fanservice at all. Instead, fanservice is a phenomenon in anime where they sexualize scenes that have nothing to do with anything sexual in order to sell more DVDs (because the hardcore anime fans that spend lots of money on anime are the perverts, I guess).

Examples include:
-A female character is talking, but the camera is on her legs.
-A high school character is introduced as a modest, completely normal female, but the camera pans over her entire body and focuses on her breasts.
-A female character's breasts slip out to show the audience, but no one in the show even notices or comments (because it's not part of the plot).
-Characters wear revealing clothing (e.g. Ghost in the Shell, and transform mech anime) for no reason.
-Random upskirt shots that doesn't add characterization.

Some shows comment on this by breaking the 4th wall and laughing at itself, or if a character is "sexy" and introduced as such, or there's a running gag. Even for those shows, and other shows that don't have a sexy character in the plot, there are sexualized shots that don't contribute to the plot. That is fanservice. Since Kill la Kill comments on those ridiculous uniforms, and it is part of a running gag, it is somewhat justifiable. It is part of the plot. By definition, fanservice is utilized in a way where it's not part of the plot.

If we using that definition than.

Fan service for Blu-ray I say I don't mimd as it is rewarding the fan who buy it with something extra like me being able to see Asuna nipple for 3 second yay!(I mean that should not be the reason you buy it, but a nice bonus is nice). Granted uncensored scene is not fan service, it's being able to watch a show without stupid glaring lights.

Also for shows where you are expecting a ecchi show, and is advertise as one, of coure it will be obligated to give them fan service, otherwise it will feel weird without it. As long as the show manage to be enjoyable and not just fan service, and manage to be creative with those fan service, I don't mind at all. Granted it does not help shows who try to be taken seriously.

That being said I do hate shots that will hold on to a girl butt or boobs during a conversation like Sword Art Online which focus on Asuna ass for like 15 seconds. I mean SAO II had ass shot of Sinon, but they were quick and she had a nice ass (and I guess it make sense since it showing her in sniping position I guess IDK). Season however looking back, while I still like the first half, I am starting to relate to the hate. Fan service is fine once in a while, but when is distracting you from an important conversation than screw you.

I think that the biggest problem I have with useless fan service, if it's too distracting. Like Yoko Littner clothes frkm Gurre Lagann serve no purpose except making her look sexy, but it fit with the crazy world, so it doesn't hurt the show and for some make her a more memorable character as they appreciate her "assest".
For character like Major or Jack the ripper (a little girl assasain wearing black panties fighting) where the world is for the most part grounded, it is hard to take seriously. I mean Major is supposed to be a counter terroist, why is she dress like a hooker. In what world is an assasain scary if she is a oversexualize little girl, that just hilarious (but she is sexy 'thanks alot japan for making a little animated girl sexy).

I think Wonder Woman say it best, "I would fight naked if I have to, but from my experience that would just distract people from my message". Useless fan service should not distract people from the show intention, nor should it be the only source of entertainment.
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