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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Ah graduation and moving to the next stage of life. This was quite an episode, meaningful and realistic to details the end of high school. It's great to see everyone so cheerful and taking photos to make more memories. Nice to see more character interactions in this finale in particular between Morikawa/Haruto and Eita/Ena. Ena's crying was hard to watch though ;_; Reflecting events of the school year really captured their moments together. 8/10. I definitely enjoyed this, more than I had expected. |
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| Well the best couple did came to be it was the expected couple but it wasn't that bad it was a nice ending. It a shame about Kamiya tho. Anyway it seems Morikawa and Souma are still in contact with each other. Besides that i have to say the anime was pretty good. |
| Eh, the miracle did not happen and we have another generic end with the illusion of intrigue. It's a pity. I hope that I will ever see anime, where the third character is not introduced just to suffer and create a non-existent weight to the central couple. |
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hahailham1 said: glad they didnt end it in a cringey old school scene. At first i thought that he'll accept Komiya since he failed his exam but well but think again after holding all of his feeling for 4 years before it wont change easily, will it? Lol, no one requires that he change the decision without any reason. The problem is that there is practically zero chemistry between them (especially in comparison with Souma + Morikawa, which has development and dynamics, so it feels great), because of what this pairing is simply not interesting. By the way, about "changes". We were not explained why Natsume changed her feelings after middle school. Generally, for me personally this is a solid fail even against the background of True Tears. |
RobertBobertDec 28, 2017 5:52 AM
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| @Itachi_0893 Oh, I understand that tastes are different and my opinion is not an uncontested truth. But I'm tired of the characters that are introduced into the plot only to suffer and perform butt monkey and due to this giving the completeness to the originally wooden main couple. I do not need the illusion of intrigue, I need the central couple, for whose love I will be worried and afraid. As for Mashiro-Iro .... well, in this case the authors decided to deconstruct these tropes, but it still became a problem and the anime got bad sales. |
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Jak said: So who ends up with who? With whom and expected. With Natsume, of course. |
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hahailham1 said: RobertBobert said: Lol, no one requires that he change the decision without any reason. The problem is that there is practically zero chemistry between them (especially in comparison with Souma + Morikawa, which has development and dynamics, so it feels great), because of what this pairing is simply not interesting. By the way, about "changes". We were not explained why Natsume changed her feelings after middle school. Generally, for me personally this is a solid fail even against the background of True Tears. for me it was quite clear tho, from the very start Natsume clearly remember about Izumi (Episode 1) and their time together (train flashback, they're quite close based on that) , episode 4 really hits hard on Natsume, since what Izumi said about stopping using test as an excuse really hits her hard. Izumi wasnt really an outsider to Natsume early story with him being friend with Haruto and they went to the same class in junior high, and Izumi knew that Natsume liked Haruto. That feel of guilty to Izumi probably spark some memories about Izumi, hence the jealousy at episode 5. Then she knew about Soma already confessed his feeling to Morikawa and want to make things clear with Soma. But for me the turnaround was the bus scene episode 5, when she asked why Izumi said those things, she probably realized that Izumi has a feeling for her. That's also why Natsume can show her true face (honne) to Izumi, which also confirmed by Natsume's sister in episode 11, but Izumi completely jumps into the wrong conclusion. Episode 6 was all about Natsume's moving on from Soma and when she started to lean more towards Izumi, that probably the reason why Izumi carrying Komiya didnt make sense to her, after what Izumi said in episode 4, and episode 7 was definitely the time she realized it. The changes was subtle but definitely there. I do not know, maybe studying tropes made me meticulous and picky, but I already in the very first series realized that they like each other and the whole series will depend on when they confess to each other in feelings. This is just another generic romantic story, where the feelings of the official couple are just dogma. It is boring and superfluous proof that in relations there should be a conflict and intrigue, and not intentionally introduced the third superfluous. |
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Itachi_0893 said: RobertBobert said: Eh, the miracle did not happen and we have another generic end with the illusion of intrigue. It's a pity. I hope that I will ever see anime, where the third character is not introduced just to suffer and create a non-existent weight to the central couple. I agree with the fact that in the vast majority of manga/anime the first introduced girl always wins even when the second (or more girls) end up with better progression throught the story, making the whole ordeal of reading/watching it a waste of time as you already know how it will end. However, I don't think that was exactly the case here as both girls had more or less the same development quality, and I really thought that Komiya had a possibility of wining, but the plot demanded otherwise. The only manga that I can remember right now that has an ending with the second girl is Ichigo 100%, but there the main girl was the one that got all the development and lost to a girl that was absent for the majority of the story. And the only anime I can remember doing that is Mashiro-iro Symphony were the one you thought was the main girl never developed a relationship with the main, the second girl had the most develpment but lost to a girl that had zero development at the end. In the Fuuka manga, the fourth or so girl introduced ends up winning, although the conditions for that to happen are quite unique. |
thiagopv said: In the Fuuka manga, the fourth or so girl introduced ends up winning, although the conditions for that to happen are quite unique. I know, therefore anime's route is dull and unpromising doubly. hahailham1 said: But definitely, on some parts the writing could be better, the inner dialogue could be more telling, and Komiya's suffering as she loves Izumi could also be removed and changed to the Komiya that's being supportive and just kept her feeling for herself. But then again this wont spark some event that led to Natsume leaning towards Izumi. So i'll take it as it is and appreciate Just Because not because (no pun intended) its plot but because of the subtle writing of the author Oh, I perfectly understand what you mean. But for me, anime with good subtext is titles like Mahouka, a variety of "subtext yuri" like Princess Principal, etc. But here everything is obvious even at the level of posters. The problem is not that it is invisible, the problem is that it is too obvious and boring. hahailham1 said: White Album 2 introduced Setsuna first and then Kazusa, in the end MC ended up with Kazusa, although that on the background MC knew Kazusa first (in the VN they do Kazusa first then Setsuna) Then there are also Oregairu where i think everybody still have equal chance to ended up with 8man lol, and the Anthem of the Heart. IIRC main character ended up with 3rd character(2nd girl, Nito) while main girl ended up with someone else. This one probably much closer to Just Because but writer of AotH already prepared someone else which is good tbh. But it is true, tho, that alot of 3rd character somehow destined to suffer, name it, Shigatsu, Toradora (dont quite remember but i think it is) , Sakurasou, and well, let's say, 5cm per second? In the album, in fact, the inversion of this trope, because firstly, "Firt Girl Win" does not necessarily mean the appearance on the screen, and the second, we first heard her playing the piano, and only then met Setsuna. Not to mention the fact that this is only a prologue to the original story. Mod Edit: Merged duplicated posts; please use the edit button. |
AlfyanDec 29, 2017 5:20 AM
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hahailham1 said: RobertBobert said: Oh, I perfectly understand what you mean. But for me, anime with good subtext is titles like Mahouka, a variety of "subtext yuri" like Princess Principal, etc. But here everything is obvious even at the level of posters. The problem is not that it is invisible, the problem is that it is too obvious and boring. Yea i get you on this, tho. It is pretty obvious but looking at the episode title again ,well i just get it after reading JB official account tweet, it makes me think of this whole series as a prologue to their adult life. It started with On your marks and ended with Get set go so in my opinion is that they're trying to portray the 'How' things happen with an obvious ending. RobertBobert said: In the album, in fact, the inversion of this trope, because firstly, "Firt Girl Win" does not necessarily mean the appearance on the screen, and the second, we first heard her playing the piano, and only then met Setsuna. Not to mention the fact that this is only a prologue to the original story. Then the closest one probably Anthem of the Heart The likes of Natsuyuki Rendezvous might suit your style, tho. Do not remind me about of Anthem, my heart still hurts: D. Well, if someone enjoyed this work, then why not. I'm already an adult enough not to require people to recognize my interpretation of the media. |
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| Felt sorry for Komiya. In the end, she's the one who gave a book of the memories Izumi spent... i knew that she would make something like that. |
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Crazysodaman said: Sorry guys, bit out of place: I can't find a subbed version yet, only the raws- could someone help me out with a link? Thank you very much in advance. Seems like everyone must be busy with family and christmas because 90% of the websites/fansubs have not subbed it yet (at least not that I can see). Had to watch it raw. |
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| Well, it is what is is. It's only normal for the anime to go with that couple since they were so insistent on telling us they love each other rather than showing it. And, the couple that had been shown to have great chemistry together, and had a lot of fun scenes with, was doomed to fail. |
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| The graduation speech from Natsume was pretty heartwarming. I am glad that I didn't read the novel even and get spoiled but I was expecting Natsume to win in the end so no surprise there. I felt pretty bad for Komiya because she lost in almost everything. She couldn't win the first prize, her charms didn't work either as Izumi didn't pass his exams. And then the rejection. I know Izumi did the right thing turning her down honestly but it was still sad because she said she would be okay without any reply because she lost on her things she was banking on. In the end, the confession was scene between Natsume and Izumi was pretty sweet, particularly texting him to look behind him. Good romance anime. 7/10. |
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| This series can go to hell 9/10 Okay, I knew Eita will end with Natsume, but she didn't confess then but one month later? Natsume never does anything and always get what she wants :(, I know the ending is so cliche but I wanted something diferent. I feel happy for the photography club! |
| I like to post in manga forum when I feel it is worth it, so people will think. "Shit, is her again" or something. People asked me where I read certain thing but the rules say no telling where did you read so maybe I am too boring for not saying? Or salty because you didn't check my profile that says don't ask because I hate people to ghost me after that. I love learning languages so maybe I did not read the manga in English. |
KingKatsura said: he chose the wrong girl but it was inevitable. he always loved mio, and the first love always wins in these triangles. regardless, i liked the ending bar that text exchange in the last scene. they don't even know eachother's whereabouts and its been over a month, but he texts her & she happens to be right behind him like a stalker to reply? "No Matter What It May Feel Like, Your First Love Is Never Your True Love." |
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KingKatsura said: he chose the wrong girl but it was inevitable. he always loved mio, and the first love always wins in these triangles. regardless, i liked the ending bar that text exchange in the last scene. they don't even know eachother's whereabouts and its been over a month, but he texts her & she happens to be right behind him like a stalker to reply? Dude they literally go to the same university |
| A very good anime, people will be screaming because of Komiya but the couple that was expected to win won. It's to bad about Komiya but Eita was really stuck on Natsume so there was nothing she could do, although it was hard to see her cry that way. 8/10 |
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Itachi_0893 said: thiagopv said: In the Fuuka manga, the fourth or so girl introduced ends up winning, although the conditions for that to happen are quite unique. Yeah, but that manga is trash, plus the second girl (don't remember her name) was the best girl and as far as I manage to read it (before dropping the manga) she could have had a chance if the author cared even a little about her, but the MC had a fetish for names. Mashiro-iro Symphony: The Color of Lovers Nice twist in the middle of the anime. :) |
IMe4gLe said: Itachi_0893 said: Yeah, but that manga is trash, plus the second girl (don't remember her name) was the best girl and as far as I manage to read it (before dropping the manga) she could have had a chance if the author cared even a little about her, but the MC had a fetish for names. Mashiro-iro Symphony: The Color of Lovers Nice twist in the middle of the anime. :) Oh, that was a good one. Six years! Wow! I wasn't expecting that at all, but she turned out to be such a sweet girl I don't think anyone would dislike her. |
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| Although I would have like that Komiya won, I'm not dissapointed either. It was a good ride 7/10 |
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| Poor Ena :( I'm glad that my day 1 ships panned out okay but seeing that poor girl cry hurt my soul Overall I think I'm gonna give this an 8/10 though (But I still loved this series regardless) |
| I was expecting Best Girl to lose after last weeks episode and it pretty much worked out how I expected. Camera-chan fought hard and lost to a girl who had already won by the end of the first episode. Despite that, I liked how it ended (even if it was a little obvious) and this was a great series overall. 8/10 |
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KingKatsura said: he chose the wrong girl but it was inevitable. he always loved mio, and the first love always wins in these triangles. regardless, i liked the ending bar that text exchange in the last scene. they don't even know eachother's whereabouts and its been over a month, but he texts her & she happens to be right behind him like a stalker to reply? He noticed his message sudenenly been read so he messaged her. She responded. It makes sense. She sees him, looks at his message and reads it. He gets the notification and messages her. |
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| damn was hoping it wouldn't end with the more obvious choice welp they don't have my blessings lol,not only that was waiting for the big realization only for them to not see or talk to each other in over month till the end felt like a missed chance to show all their effort instead of " we just ended up at the same college". enjoyable love drama with good music likable character and some solid art/direction 7/10 |
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| Great series. Ena crying was hard to watch but it was still a good series. I also think that people rated the show down because their favorite girl didn't win. |
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| Well exactly what was supposed to happen happened, only the last 1-month skip part was a bit weird. Still Ena's confession and her crying was sad to watch :( Overall it was pretty good, especially going in without any expectations, sometimes slow which was expected but definitely enjoyed it. Solid 7/10. |
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