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Oct 9, 2017 10:56 PM
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One week later: why is no one talking about this anymore? It's so dumb how quickly this fell off the news. Anyway, there are some things that debunk - or at least question - the "official" story.

1) First things first. Watch the original videos. If you've already seen them, you can skip to #2. Here are some:



2) There are many audio analysis videos indicating how there are at least two different distinct gun sounds firing off. Such as these:



3) Not only was there (at least one) shooter at Mandala Bay, but there were shootings in other hotels as well. (100% confirmed in point #7).



4) The pictures that were given to us of Stephen Paddock's corpse are kind of weird. I couldn't really pinpoint what I thought was weird until a commentator from InfoWars pointed it out in this video:



5) They have footage, but we will never see it.



6) As of 10/9/17: Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department gets facts wrong.
Police have dramatically changed their account of how the Las Vegas massacre began on Oct. 1, revealing Monday that the gunman shot a hotel security guard six minutes before opening fire on a country music concert — raising new questions about why police weren’t able to pinpoint the gunman’s location sooner.
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Lombardo [County Sheriff] also revised the date on which police believe Paddock checked into Mandalay Bay. While initially they said he had checked in on Sept. 28, three days before the shooting, they now believe he checked in on Sept. 25.


7) Multiple shootings confirmed in Police Scanner audio.



8) The victims' stories do not add up.



9) Billionaire, Sheldon Adelson, owns the Las Vegas Review Journal. LVRJ is the same outlet that fed the narrative.

10) Rise of body scanners (inside places like airports and hotels) linked to former Secretary of Homeland Security, Michael Chertoff.

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Since this is ongoing, and will probably forever be ongoing, I will continue to update this thread.
ZelevOct 21, 2017 10:35 AM





Three things cannot be long hidden..
...the s u n, the m oo n, and the tr u th.


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Oct 10, 2017 1:35 AM
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Zelev said:
One week later: why is no one talking about this anymore? It's so dumb how quickly this fell off the news.


That part is easy to explain.The only reason the media will push a high profile mass shooting for weeks is to push for gun control and they give a soap box to the pro-gun control crowd. Most of the media is made of up of liberal democrats who oppose the 2nd amendment. This is why good guy using gun to stop bad guy gets little to no air time while a story opposite of it gets lots of air time. Republicans have a senate and congressional majority and a republican president. So it is pointless for the media to push this story when they know for a fact that there is no way in hell republicans are going to enact any gun control at the federal level.
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Oct 10, 2017 2:08 AM
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Complicated things aside .. US media has lied ever since WW2 .. Even at times they gave honest reports they have always been biased in ways and have always been trying to create fake patriotism and carry forward their agenda ...


Oct 10, 2017 3:42 AM
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People report things wrong when in mass panic.

It was already reported he had several different guns.

When you shoot at the right angle skyward bullets can travel miles.

As for that date. Google pulls dates off of site data it seems. It was just an error.
https://webmasters.stackexchange.com/questions/18395/how-does-google-recognize-publish-date-of-a-post
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Oct 10, 2017 3:56 AM
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KazuroWeisemann said:
Complicated things aside .. US media has lied ever since WW2 .. Even at times they gave honest reports they have always been biased in ways and have always been trying to create fake patriotism and carry forward their agenda ...
Unlike the very trustworthy media here in the Middle East, an oasis of freedom and democracy
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Oct 10, 2017 6:14 AM
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KazuroWeisemann said:
Complicated things aside .. US media has lied ever since WW2 .. Even at times they gave honest reports they have always been biased in ways and have always been trying to create fake patriotism and carry forward their agenda ...


ha, as if non western media any better... you get literaly 9/11 conspiracy at national news station here... lOl
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Oct 10, 2017 6:33 AM
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Kuma said:
KazuroWeisemann said:
Complicated things aside .. US media has lied ever since WW2 .. Even at times they gave honest reports they have always been biased in ways and have always been trying to create fake patriotism and carry forward their agenda ...


ha, as if non western media any better... you get literaly 9/11 conspiracy at national news station here... lOl


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Weird
KazuroWeisemann said:
Complicated things aside .. US media has lied ever since WW2 .. Even at times they gave honest reports they have always been biased in ways and have always been trying to create fake patriotism and carry forward their agenda ...
Unlike the very trustworthy media here in the Middle East, an oasis of freedom and democracy




I never said non western media is any better ..

The golden rule is News story + Personal research + public views to get the most accurate hold of the situation a commoner can get..


Oct 10, 2017 7:44 AM
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Just be patient, the truth about if there were multiple hooters or not will come out in 15-20 years. However, we now know the shooter was on Valium for anxiety, anxiety and depession meds can lead to suicidal and sometimes homicidal thoughts.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/las-vegas-stephen-paddock-apos-124300765.html


Oct 10, 2017 7:53 AM
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I swear if you placed the same kind of effort in physics instead of bs you'd end up being this generation's Einstein.
Oct 10, 2017 9:42 AM
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KazuroWeisemann said:
Complicated things aside .. US media has lied ever since WW2 .. Even at times they gave honest reports they have always been biased in ways and have always been trying to create fake patriotism and carry forward their agenda ...

that's why you read multiple sources and make your own rational conclusions, idiot
other countries are honestly far worse, look at China for gods sake
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Oml there's actually a current events and politics page here I thought I'd escaped but apparently not lol

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Oct 10, 2017 10:16 AM

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Just like 9/11 huh? Fishy.
Oct 10, 2017 10:18 AM

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spuukiebuugi said:
KazuroWeisemann said:
Complicated things aside .. US media has lied ever since WW2 .. Even at times they gave honest reports they have always been biased in ways and have always been trying to create fake patriotism and carry forward their agenda ...

that's why you read multiple sources and make your own rational conclusions, idiot
other countries are honestly far worse, look at China for gods sake


Uhh...Already did that? Majority of the news sources say the same story idiot .. Maybe you should read the news from multiple sources ..


Oct 10, 2017 10:22 AM

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And that's why they are researching it.
Oct 10, 2017 10:28 AM

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Oh, Christ, is this going to be the new 9/11?
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Oct 10, 2017 11:03 AM

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CatSoul said:
Oh, Christ, is this going to be the new 9/11?


Well it's pretty odd that it was on "Route 91" on October 1st. ---> 91 10/1 = Route 91 on October 1st.
9/11/01 = September 11th, 2001.

Also the last name "Paddock" literally means to enclose. The people at the festival were enclosed on.
ZelevOct 10, 2017 11:06 AM





Three things cannot be long hidden..
...the s u n, the m oo n, and the tr u th.


Oct 10, 2017 12:57 PM

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It al adds up to one thing...that InfoWars & Alex Jones will probably believe that this shooting never happening and is a liberal plot just to get rid of Bump stocks.
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I swear if you placed the same kind of effort in physics instead of bs you'd end up being this generation's Einstein.


that is what i say about most conspiracy theorists... im more of the give me substantial evidences kind of guy when it comes to tragic events being "government conspiracy"
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Zelev said:
One week later: why is no one talking about this anymore? It's so dumb how quickly this fell off the news. Anyway, there are some things that debunk - or at least question - the "official" story.

1) First things first. Watch the original videos. If you've already seen them, you can skip to #2. Here are some:



2) There are many audio analysis videos indicating how there are at least two different distinct gun sounds firing off. Such as these:



3) Not only was there (at least one) shooter at Mandala Bay, but there were shootings in other hotels as well.



4) I'm putting this video here because I found it very strange. This article is dated Sept. 30th in the UK (or Sept. 29th in the US), before the shooting even happened. At the time of this video, the article had that date. However, if I were to search this article up right now, Google hides the date. C-e-n-s-o-r-s-h-i-p.



5) The pictures that were given to us of Stephen Paddock's corpse are kind of weird. I couldn't really pinpoint what I thought was weird until a commentator from InfoWars pointed it out in this video:



7) They have footage, but we will never see it.


8) As of 10/9/17: Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department gets facts wrong.
Police have dramatically changed their account of how the Las Vegas massacre began on Oct. 1, revealing Monday that the gunman shot a hotel security guard six minutes before opening fire on a country music concert — raising new questions about why police weren’t able to pinpoint the gunman’s location sooner.
...
Lombardo [County Sheriff] also revised the date on which police believe Paddock checked into Mandalay Bay. While initially they said he had checked in on Sept. 28, three days before the shooting, they now believe he checked in on Sept. 25.


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Since this is ongoing, and will probably forever be ongoing, I will continue to update this thread.


I bet you believe in every conspiracy theory.
Oct 10, 2017 7:49 PM

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Hoppy said:
Just be patient, the truth about if there were multiple hooters or not will come out in 15-20 years. However, we now know the shooter was on Valium for anxiety, anxiety and depession meds can lead to suicidal and sometimes homicidal thoughts.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/las-vegas-stephen-paddock-apos-124300765.html
anti depressants can but I'm not so sure about Valium.
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traed said:
Hoppy said:
Just be patient, the truth about if there were multiple hooters or not will come out in 15-20 years. However, we now know the shooter was on Valium for anxiety, anxiety and depession meds can lead to suicidal and sometimes homicidal thoughts.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/las-vegas-stephen-paddock-apos-124300765.html
anti depressants can but I'm not so sure about Valium.
traed said:
Hoppy said:
Just be patient, the truth about if there were multiple hooters or not will come out in 15-20 years. However, we now know the shooter was on Valium for anxiety, anxiety and depession meds can lead to suicidal and sometimes homicidal thoughts.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/las-vegas-stephen-paddock-apos-124300765.html
anti depressants can but I'm not so sure about Valium.


They have similar side effects except Valium also has paranoia listed as well.


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It was saudi arabia and cia inside job.
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traed said:
Hoppy said:
Just be patient, the truth about if there were multiple hooters or not will come out in 15-20 years. However, we now know the shooter was on Valium for anxiety, anxiety and depession meds can lead to suicidal and sometimes homicidal thoughts.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/las-vegas-stephen-paddock-apos-124300765.html
anti depressants can but I'm not so sure about Valium.

I think it might depend on the dosage and if he was taking any other medications alongside the Valium. Speaking from experience, not with Valium personally, but with strong prescription anti anxiety pills in the past (xanax, klonopin, benzos) they can fuck you up pretty badly, even if they're intended to basically "relax" you (increase your drowsiness in other words), if paired with other medications or substances such as alcohol or drugs, the reaction can be catastrophic.
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Zelev said:
One week later: why is no one talking about this anymore? It's so dumb how quickly this fell off the news. Anyway, there are some things that debunk - or at least question - the "official" story.

1) First things first. Watch the original videos. If you've already seen them, you can skip to #2. Here are some:



2) There are many audio analysis videos indicating how there are at least two different distinct gun sounds firing off. Such as these:



3) Not only was there (at least one) shooter at Mandala Bay, but there were shootings in other hotels as well.



4) I'm putting this video here because I found it very strange. This article is dated Sept. 30th in the UK (or Sept. 29th in the US), before the shooting even happened. At the time of this video, the article had that date. However, if I were to search this article up right now, Google hides the date. C-e-n-s-o-r-s-h-i-p.



5) The pictures that were given to us of Stephen Paddock's corpse are kind of weird. I couldn't really pinpoint what I thought was weird until a commentator from InfoWars pointed it out in this video:



7) They have footage, but we will never see it.


8) As of 10/9/17: Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department gets facts wrong.


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Since this is ongoing, and will probably forever be ongoing, I will continue to update this thread.


I bet you believe in every conspiracy theory.


A basic understanding of history - true history, not that propaganda bs you learn in school - easily leads to this conclusion. The Las Vegas Massacre "official" story has changed at least two times already and there are too many variables to account for that does not fit the narrative. I'm easily on the side of facts here. There is no proof that what they are telling us is true - in this case - other than they say it is so. In fact, just earlier today it was revealed that the hotel's security guard was wiped from their database.

But I mean, you go ahead and believe whatever you wanna believe. I'm not forcing you to believe me. I can give you all the evidence in the world, but you gotta meet halfway at some point.





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...the s u n, the m oo n, and the tr u th.


Oct 10, 2017 10:01 PM
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what ever happened to crazy motherfucker has guns, is deranged, shoots up a place he wants?

I don't remember these dumbass conspiracies with Columbine or Virginia Tech, cause idiots weren't posting Alex Jones conspiracies at the time, *sigh* now every fuckboy has a platform.
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Zelev said:

A basic understanding of history - true history, not that propaganda bs you learn in school - easily leads to this conclusion. The Las Vegas Massacre "official" story has changed at least two times already and there are too many variables to account for that does not fit the narrative. I'm easily on the side of facts here. There is no proof that what they are telling us is true - in this case - other than they say it is so. In fact, just earlier today it was revealed that the hotel's security guard was wiped from their database.

That is one of the worst sources you could use. It's not reliable. They are just trying to pin it on a Hispanic guy.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/gotnews/
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HAHAHAHA....I fucking knew eventually we would get the "It WAZ A FALSE FLAG!!!" Shit...

What the fuck would even be the purpose of this "false flag"?!

To take away our beloved guns?!

With an ALL-GOP government?!

What????

This shit doesn't even make sense...even 9/11 truthers have more credibility than this shit...and those people are retarded.
Oct 11, 2017 7:57 AM

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Zelev said:
A basic understanding of history - true history, not that propaganda bs you learn in school - easily leads to this conclusion. The Las Vegas Massacre "official" story has changed at least two times already and there are too many variables to account for that does not fit the narrative. I'm easily on the side of facts here. There is no proof that what they are telling us is true - in this case - other than they say it is so. In fact, just earlier today it was revealed that the hotel's security guard was wiped from their database.

But I mean, you go ahead and believe whatever you wanna believe. I'm not forcing you to believe me. I can give you all the evidence in the world, but you gotta meet halfway at some point.


The earth is flat is real history too. So are contrails that cause diseases. Also nice source.
Oct 11, 2017 10:12 AM

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Um.. the story is talked about everyday on the news here.
Oct 11, 2017 10:56 AM
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yeah its being covered up, and they are changing dates and the official story (lying) as it goes, guess we just have to wait.
Oct 11, 2017 11:33 AM

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traed said:
Zelev said:

A basic understanding of history - true history, not that propaganda bs you learn in school - easily leads to this conclusion. The Las Vegas Massacre "official" story has changed at least two times already and there are too many variables to account for that does not fit the narrative. I'm easily on the side of facts here. There is no proof that what they are telling us is true - in this case - other than they say it is so. In fact, just earlier today it was revealed that the hotel's security guard was wiped from their database.

That is one of the worst sources you could use. It's not reliable. They are just trying to pin it on a Hispanic guy.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/gotnews/


Ironically, "mediabiasfactcheck" uses Snopes as a source, which has gotten its own facts wrong before.

I don't care about the actual website's reputation. I care about the content that source is saying. Laura Loomer is considered on the "right," however she did break the story of a timeline change on when Stephen Paddock had checked in (Point #8 in this OP). And the sheriff did change the timeline only after she mentioned it at the press conference, so she does have some credibility, even if a little.

It was later reported today by Laura Loomer that Jesus Campos had to be registered under Nevada Gaming Commission, not the other database as reported less than 24 hrs ago. So she was wrong on that but has since corrected it.

No, I don't think they want to blame it on him because he isn't white. There was a timeline change, after all... so they are questioning the story in general. I believe they are right in questioning the security guard because: First, the officials said he was shot at 10:18pm, now they say Jesus Campo was shot at 9:59pm and that he "immediately told casino security officers he had been shot." This completely conflicts with the Police Scanner Audio video. Why did it take about 20 minutes to figure out where the shooting was coming from if the casino security officers allegedly knew the floor from the start? Either way, it doesn't add up.





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Oct 11, 2017 11:44 AM

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Zelev said:
A basic understanding of history - true history, not that propaganda bs you learn in school - easily leads to this conclusion. The Las Vegas Massacre "official" story has changed at least two times already and there are too many variables to account for that does not fit the narrative. I'm easily on the side of facts here. There is no proof that what they are telling us is true - in this case - other than they say it is so. In fact, just earlier today it was revealed that the hotel's security guard was wiped from their database.

But I mean, you go ahead and believe whatever you wanna believe. I'm not forcing you to believe me. I can give you all the evidence in the world, but you gotta meet halfway at some point.


The earth is flat is real history too. So are contrails that cause diseases. Also nice source.


I'm talking about this history.

The reporter has corrected it earlier today. He had to be registered under Nevada Gaming Commission, not the other database as reported less than 24 hrs ago.





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Oct 11, 2017 3:18 PM

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Yeah let's just look at how unbiased and reliable GotNews and Chuck is...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_C._Johnson
https://theslot.jezebel.com/someone-is-giving-donald-trump-news-from-an-internet-tr-1795219409
http://money.cnn.com/2017/08/16/media/charlottesville-man-misidentified-plans-lawsuit/

Laura Loomer is a known liar
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laura_Loomer
http://yesmargaret.com/2017/08/laura-loomer-liar-everyone-laughing-now-edition/


No she didnt correct it shes rolling with it further
https://twitter.com/LauraLoomer/status/918209471180091399
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@traed



I already told you that I don't care about the source's reputation, only the content of that source. Even InfoWars is right some of the time.



I don't care about her reputation. Obviously her reputation should be considered while I make the choice of believing her or not, but so far she has presented evidence to back up her claims in this Las Vegas case. The LVMPD sheriff even had to change the timeline because she brought it up. If she hadn't brought it up, the timeline would never have changed. A liar says some truth every now and then. Or are you seriously saying that all liars (even though everyone lies) lie 100% of the time? That doesn't even make sense.

No she didnt correct it shes rolling with it further
https://twitter.com/LauraLoomer/status/918209471180091399


She did correct it. Are you even trying anymore? Or is your bias getting in the way?



I'm hispanic. So what? I'm not going to automatically side with him merely because of his ethnicity. The timeline changed of when he got shot. This conflicts with the narrative. That is reasonable enough to be suspicious of what he knows. Hell, the entire hotel was probably in on it.







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Oct 11, 2017 5:24 PM

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Well that was over an hour wasted watching and reading all that
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Well that was over an hour wasted watching and reading all that


Lmao, you should see my Flint water crisis thread..





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I'm just saying it's too far off a reach on some things. I never even injected to everything i just pointed out where things are just reaching out unreliable. I never said it's impossible that more people were involved or the hotel paid off for some silence on some things to not lose money from loss of reputation. It's just not necessary to explain things and more info will come out later
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I'm just saying it's too far off a reach on some things. I never even injected to everything i just pointed out where things are just reaching out unreliable. I never said it's impossible that more people were involved or the hotel paid off for some silence on some things to not lose money from loss of reputation. It's just not necessary to explain things and more info will come out later


What "things" are you referring to? You're being pretty vague.





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all i have to say about this is that a lot of people have to stop being so fucking dismissive of everything that doesn't line up with their political standing.
it's fine if you think "hurrrr ur retarded if you fell for pizzagate lol" but when people try to dismiss literally everything just because it comes from a different viewpoint than they'd like, we have a real problem.
MSM pulls a wool over peoples heads everyday, in what way is it far-fetched to be skeptical of shit like this, and how is it a bad thing to question stuff that seems off?
because people who do question stuff lean to the right and you disagree with them?
rofl, come on.

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The tasteless bracelets and the dye in our hair
Or maybe, maybe it's our nowhere towns or our nothing places
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Zelev said:
traed said:
@Zelev
I'm just saying it's too far off a reach on some things. I never even injected to everything i just pointed out where things are just reaching out unreliable. I never said it's impossible that more people were involved or the hotel paid off for some silence on some things to not lose money from loss of reputation. It's just not necessary to explain things and more info will come out later


What "things" are you referring to? You're being pretty vague.

Everything you brought up.
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Zelev said:


What "things" are you referring to? You're being pretty vague.

Everything you brought up.


You: It's far off a reach on some things.
Me: What things?
You: Everything.
Me: ...that literally is not what "some things" means. Also the fact you took a week to reply. But okay.





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Yomiyuki said:
all i have to say about this is that a lot of people have to stop being so fucking dismissive of everything that doesn't line up with their political standing.
it's fine if you think "hurrrr ur retarded if you fell for pizzagate lol" but when people try to dismiss literally everything just because it comes from a different viewpoint than they'd like, we have a real problem.
MSM pulls a wool over peoples heads everyday, in what way is it far-fetched to be skeptical of shit like this, and how is it a bad thing to question stuff that seems off?
because people who do question stuff lean to the right and you disagree with them?
rofl, come on.


Politics has nothing to do with this at all other than people wanting gun control. The conspiracy is there was more than one shooter or multiple shootings. Or that the shooting never happened.
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traed said:

Everything you brought up.


You: It's far off a reach on some things.
Me: What things?
You: Everything.
Me: ...that literally is not what "some things" means. Also the fact you took a week to reply. But okay.

I delete notifications before replying sometimes so i don't really remember to reply occasionally.

I was pretty clear in my first post in this thread how easy it is to explain much of this without resorting to conspiracy theories. Even the different times could just be a simple screw up that they later corrected. I've already said there might be another shooter. So i don't know what more do you want.
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traed said:
Zelev said:


You: It's far off a reach on some things.
Me: What things?
You: Everything.
Me: ...that literally is not what "some things" means. Also the fact you took a week to reply. But okay.

I delete notifications before replying sometimes so i don't really remember to reply occasionally.

I was pretty clear in my first post in this thread how easy it is to explain much of this without resorting to conspiracy theories. Even the different times could just be a simple screw up that they later corrected. I've already said there might be another shooter. So i don't know what more do you want.


First of all, the only thing you explained was the google censorship thing, which I do acknowledge.. even if I still slightly doubt the explanation; not like anyone can really know 100% about that one other than Google itself. And your other claims were just outright biased.





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Yomiyuki said:
all i have to say about this is that a lot of people have to stop being so fucking dismissive of everything that doesn't line up with their political standing.
it's fine if you think "hurrrr ur retarded if you fell for pizzagate lol" but when people try to dismiss literally everything just because it comes from a different viewpoint than they'd like, we have a real problem.
MSM pulls a wool over peoples heads everyday, in what way is it far-fetched to be skeptical of shit like this, and how is it a bad thing to question stuff that seems off?
because people who do question stuff lean to the right and you disagree with them?
rofl, come on.


Politics has nothing to do with this at all other than people wanting gun control. The conspiracy is there was more than one shooter or multiple shootings. Or that the shooting never happened.


People get their news from a source that either leans left or right. I'd say politics has a little more to do with it than that.





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Zelev said:
Drunk_Samurai said:


Politics has nothing to do with this at all other than people wanting gun control. The conspiracy is there was more than one shooter or multiple shootings. Or that the shooting never happened.


People get their news from a source that either leans left or right. I'd say politics has a little more to do with it than that.


No it really doesn't. This thread is about conspiracy theories. Not the actual shooting. Even then, like I already said, the shooting is only political when talking about gun control.
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No it really doesn't. This thread is about conspiracy theories.


False. No where in this thread did I talk about "conspiracy theories" in its literal definition. (Although, I could go there.) I have only provided facts. To be more accurate, this thread is about uncovering a conspiracy. A conspiracy theory would be you talking about how "they" did this for gun control.

Even then, like I already said, the shooting is only political when talking about gun control.


FBI = government = political.
MSM funded by elite, corporations, etc. = political.





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I don't care about the actual website's reputation. I care about the content that source is saying.
Probably the best line from this thread lol

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So why would the government try to cover it up?
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So why would the government try to cover it up?


Who knows? My guess is the same thing every false flag was about. Money, power, control, dominance and/or coups.





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