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Jun 27, 2017 12:18 PM

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I don't see the big deal. Okay, Titan season 2 isn't selling as well as season 1, but it's still doing fine in it's own right.
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Jun 27, 2017 12:37 PM

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@Symphyon

Yes, I'm talking about ReCreated. Well, they have one more season, so I think that they will be able to increase sales, even if they need to buy 22 episodes with good performance. I just hope that this is not another project that many people liked in the west, but went unnoticed in Japan.
Jun 27, 2017 12:43 PM
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@Symphyon

Yes, I'm talking about ReCreated. Well, they have one more season, so I think that they will be able to increase sales, even if they need to buy 22 episodes with good performance. I just hope that this is not another project that many people liked in the west, but went unnoticed in Japan.

Yep they have an entire cour left so they can get enough or decent sales for this one... and yeah I hope so as well that it doesn't turn out like this because it will be a disappointment (only financially... content wise I highly doubt it, but financially it would go down if it doesn't increase by the end of its cour).
Jun 27, 2017 1:25 PM

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I guess SnK hype has died out in Japan, sasuga Wit.
12. 2,016 **2,016 Re:Creators Vol.1 Limited Edition
Come on Japan, this needs more sales!!
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Jun 27, 2017 1:45 PM

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What's most surprising to me is that Kabaneri actually sold more than SnK S2. I mean, it was pretty much a knock off made to benefit off the popularity of SNK at the time and now it ended up selling more than the actual series lol.

Anyway, s3 has been greenlit so this doesn't mean much now anyway (well, besides the fact that S3 might have a tighter budget I guess).
Jun 27, 2017 1:46 PM

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Kobayashi and LWA are doing fine I see. That makes me a little happy.
Jun 27, 2017 2:23 PM
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Agafin said:
What's most surprising to me is that Kabaneri actually sold more than SnK S2. I mean, it was pretty much a knock off made to benefit off the popularity of SNK at the time and now it ended up selling more than the actual series lol.

Anyway, s3 has been greenlit so this doesn't mean much now anyway (well, besides the fact that S3 might have a tighter budget I guess).
I think the reason is that SNK didn't take the chance to profit from the hype it created and let other shows take it instead (like Kabaneri, Owari no Seraph, God Eater etc.. ) and now the apocalypse theme is already miked dry wich is why we're seeing this humongous drop in SnK's disc sales.
Jun 27, 2017 2:46 PM
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This season system by selling DVD and Blu-ray is a great shit! Yuri's series topped the list. I never liked collecting physical media, and seeing franchises being anchised [having no TV sequel] for those sales in Japan, I came to hate that crap even more. I hope one day the Japanese industry will evolve [market] this shit into something better.
Jun 27, 2017 3:15 PM

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Oricon charts are way too misleading nowadays...
Jun 27, 2017 6:22 PM

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Physical disk sales as a metric of success mean a lot less for anime today than they did years ago, since international streaming revenue has increased substantially.
Jun 27, 2017 7:51 PM
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Symphyon said:
By today's standards the sales for SnK S2 is quite fine if you ask me, but overall compared to the past as far as I'm concerned then yeah that's a bit of a problem. However because of this its not really doing itself terrible... it's just not doing itself well either, its FAR from a flop if you ask me (lets take the quality of the shows aside for a moment, if that's fine).

I think I'm more salty by the fact that Re:Creators sold rather... average or something. 2k sales isn't bad of a number, its just not doing as good as the others. Well, I think it's better than 1k sales at least.


2K is not average, they need 2.9k sales to get even, maybe after a few more days they can reach or surpass that, plus the DVD sales, streaming services, local/international broadcast license, and merchandises. I think they're safe with low earning revenue.

Maybe Japan didn't like the show. The anime showcases a flying injured mahou shoujo while her blood drips on one of the antagonist's hotdog, the directing is much worse than a B-tier movie director, and it's not even comedy.

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So if that 20k yen is true then that means they made 109 million yen ($980,000) by selling 6 episodes. They actually made a profit on this one since each episode cost them an average of $100k -$150k per episode (Average since I have no idea what their actual budget is for this show).


Average on seasonal TV anime is 200,000, high budgeted series or episodes have 250,000 ~ 350,000+. On low budget long on-going series it's 100,000 ~ 150,000 per episode.

Maybe those Japanese fans realized Isayama is a hack.
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Jun 27, 2017 8:25 PM

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Selling the Shingeki season two BDs at 20k yen for six episodes is roughly equivalent to selling the season one BDs at 6.3k yen for two episodes, so selling over 6.8 times fewer BDs is potentially a really big problem since the head of the production committee is Pony Canyon.

Also, not to doom and gloom since I'm not saying it's likely, but sequels can be cancelled. Everyone saying "good thing season three is already announced" is ignoring that.
Jun 27, 2017 8:30 PM

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Hope we get that Starmyu 3rd season.
Only 331 copies difference in first week sales from S1 Vol.1.

It's somewhat expected that Re:CRE wouldn't move copies imo... it's an ongoing, original anime and we can't tell if it's good until it ends; it could go downhill anytime. If it lives up to expectations it will probably collect a decent number of sales over time.
Jun 27, 2017 8:47 PM
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Despite how big digital is today as supposed as it was 4 years ago, SnK S2 selling only ~11% of what the first season did is a disappointment no matter how you look at it. Considering the marketing cost of the series, 5k sales is strictly decent. Even though digital is big and everything, it doesn't prevent other series to pass the 10k or 20k threshold. Yuri on Ice can do 67k even it a digital generation. Honestly, SnK S2 should be 20k, but it was expected that it will have a bigger drop. I was expecting 10-12k at least tbh. But we can at least guarantee that SnK would've sold more if it had released it in 2-3 episode volumes like the last season, as supposed to 6 episodes for ¥19800. SnK's first season had a total BD/DVD revenue of ¥3,152,400,000, while SnK S2 has sold around ¥130,739,400 so far. If it trends like this SnK S2 Vol 1 and 2 will have a total sale of approximately ¥300,000,000, which less than 10% of what the first season. No matter how you look at this, the home media distributors will be left underwhelmed. This being said, the anime itself isn't a flop, and as a franchise itself, SnK is one of the most popular.
Jun 28, 2017 3:32 AM

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SnK Season 2 is definitely lower than I had expected. Oh well, at least Iron Blooded Orphans is doing decent still.
Jun 28, 2017 6:21 AM

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Euphonium was garbage. No idea what people like about this boring anime.

I hope attack on titan 3rd season get 2 cours !! Sad to see the sales are not good

I remember Hero No Academia had poor sales, and yet it still got 2 cour 2nd season with good animation
Jun 29, 2017 10:31 AM

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shanimebib said:
Zapredon said:
Hopefully we get Euphonium season 3.


I think KyotoAnimation will stick with movie sequels as they have shown with Free! and Chuunibyou. For now I am so glad that Hibike! Euphonium is getting two new movies. With Takeda-sensei confirming that she will write about Kumiko's experience as a second and third year student, I really hope more Hibike! comes our way. I am also glad that Hibike! Euphonium didn't suffer from second-season-sales-syndrome which has been a trend in recent years.


second-season-sales-syndrome what?
Jun 29, 2017 10:56 AM

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GoldenDevilGamer said:
Despite how big digital is today as supposed as it was 4 years ago, SnK S2 selling only ~11% of what the first season did is a disappointment no matter how you look at it. Considering the marketing cost of the series, 5k sales is strictly decent. Even though digital is big and everything, it doesn't prevent other series to pass the 10k or 20k threshold. Yuri on Ice can do 67k even it a digital generation. Honestly, SnK S2 should be 20k, but it was expected that it will have a bigger drop. I was expecting 10-12k at least tbh. But we can at least guarantee that SnK would've sold more if it had released it in 2-3 episode volumes like the last season, as supposed to 6 episodes for ¥19800. SnK's first season had a total BD/DVD revenue of ¥3,152,400,000, while SnK S2 has sold around ¥130,739,400 so far. If it trends like this SnK S2 Vol 1 and 2 will have a total sale of approximately ¥300,000,000, which less than 10% of what the first season. No matter how you look at this, the home media distributors will be left underwhelmed. This being said, the anime itself isn't a flop, and as a franchise itself, SnK is one of the most popular.


I don't understand the "selling 6 episodes bundles, sells less than 2-3 episodes ones", that is totally not true. We have stuff like Fate Stay Night and Fate Stay Zero and they still get the people. Also One Piece with the log collection(around 50 episodes each), that are also the reselling(that is what makes less people buy, not the format of the first sale edition), and it gets a lot of people to buy it.

The fact is that getting just 2 volumes instead of 6 in fact brings a lot more in average sales, given that there is less of a loss of buyers as new volume comes, given the fact that there is less new volumes. Though the problem with this is the coverage of the series is also less in time. Probably they decided to go with the 6 episodes due to knowing how badly the series lost its fans and they are trying to lose the least people as possible.
Jul 1, 2017 12:57 AM

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Shunaria said:
shanimebib said:


I think KyotoAnimation will stick with movie sequels as they have shown with Free! and Chuunibyou. For now I am so glad that Hibike! Euphonium is getting two new movies. With Takeda-sensei confirming that she will write about Kumiko's experience as a second and third year student, I really hope more Hibike! comes our way. I am also glad that Hibike! Euphonium didn't suffer from second-season-sales-syndrome which has been a trend in recent years.


second-season-sales-syndrome what?


Here are some random picks of renowned anime from different genre suffering from second-season-syndrome i.e. drop in sales compared to season 1:



Hibike! Eupohonium had a 15% drop, which is insignificant compared to how other new anime suffered in the recent past.
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Jul 1, 2017 8:55 AM

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Next week we will know for sure, but I think the blu-ray buying crowd went for Eromanga Sensei this season. Not enough love to go around for all these releases... the only thing I dont like about the future of streaming revenue overtaking discs to the point they are irrelevant is that such a small amount of people have such a big say to the studios producing these anime. These disc sales, due to the pricing, is a great way for the most hardcore fans to speak directly to the studios and say hey you have a fanbase and we want more.

Glad to see Hibike doing so well, I wanted to get the volumes but I ended up coping out. Glad to see my slack was picked up. Super eager to see where Eromanga Sensei sales are. Unlike Yuri on Ice and Love Live, there is no super awesome pack in event that drive sales up to retarded levels. Essentially, like Hibike, we will see people buying the show for the sake of buying the show rather then not really knowing how well it would have done without pack in concert seat raffles and shit.
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the gap between SnK s1 and Snk s2 vol.1 is crazy.
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