scruffs said: If anything they'll go after the host streaming the content more so than the person streaming it. Either way it'll be an inconvenience for everybody. Lawyers will go after everything they can gain profit from. I bet there are dozens already brainstorming how to get the most money by cease warnings - collecting ip-addresses by uploading & linking its clients films on purpose or by buying ip-sets, only the future will tell :D |
| Aw man, that really sucks! I hope this doesn't last very long. |
| GET FUCKED GERMANY! America sends it's regards.... |
| You should genuinely thank her for freeing you from this curse. |
| glad to see merkel is still focusing on what truly matters. god, germany has gone downhill |
"I came here to sniff Madoka panties and kick witch ass and I am all out 'doka panties" - Homora Akemi |
At least you can still watch JoJo... lame joking aside, I really hope this isnt serious. otherwise I'll be praying for your democracy to elect a better leader. |
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| You could get amazon] (fairly new to anime but 100 things is a good amount to start), crunchyroll (they have a fk ton of series how could you possibly not be interested in them), Viewster (is free), Netflix ((not a lot of titles, but you could find some really obscure ones like robotech (aka macross and other stuff), knights of cydonia, Ajin, etx)), anime on demand (germany), clip fish (free i heard in germany, lots of yugioh and good sht on there it seems), Daisuki (so limited but anime is anime), and Akiba pass... seriously stop complaining, anyways, if it's licensed you could either find it on legal streaming or outright buy it... if it's unlicensed, they're probably not going to enforce it. |
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_Poochyena_ said: At least you can still watch JoJo... lame joking aside, I really hope this isnt serious. otherwise I'll be praying for your democracy to elect a better leader. I really hope this response is meant as a joke, or do you care to explain how a legal decision by the EU-court, that enforces EU-rights correlates with one "bad leader" of one EU member state? I am really looking forward to read your profound deliberations! |
slkrd said: _Poochyena_ said: At least you can still watch JoJo... lame joking aside, I really hope this isnt serious. otherwise I'll be praying for your democracy to elect a better leader. I really hope this response is meant as a joke, or do you care to explain how a legal decision by the EU-court, that enforces EU-rights correlates with one "bad leader" of one EU member state? I am really looking forward to read your profound deliberations! Do you think I have any clue how the government of Germany or the EU works? Do you think I even care that much? I was trying to be sentimental and supportive, but god forbid I try to leave a nice concerned comment. But I know Germany's been having a hard time with Angela Merkel and the migrant crisis, so I assumed she was responsible for this too seeing as the OP blamed Germany for the problem. But excuse me for being misinformed. Thank God for pretentious pricks on the My Anime List forums to enlighten the rest of us. |
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JonasTheJay said: Watching movies or anime fansubs is now officially a crime in Germany and will be punished. Prior to this it was always some kind of legal limbo, but not anymore. The only thing I can do now is to commit suicide use Crunchyroll, but CN really doesn't have that many anime I'm interested in and CN Germany has even less. FUCK MY LIFE Use a proxy or a VPN and just do it anyway. |
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| Just move to another country who does allow fan subbed anime. |
_Poochyena_ said: slkrd said: I really hope this response is meant as a joke, or do you care to explain how a legal decision by the EU-court, that enforces EU-rights correlates with one "bad leader" of one EU member state? I am really looking forward to read your profound deliberations! Do you think I have any clue how the government of Germany or the EU works? Do you think I even care that much? I was trying to be sentimental and supportive, but god forbid I try to leave a nice concerned comment. But I know Germany's been having a hard time with Angela Merkel and the migrant crisis, so I assumed she was responsible for this too seeing as the OP blamed Germany for the problem. But excuse me for being misinformed. Thank God for pretentious pricks on the My Anime List forums to enlighten the rest of us. So you wrote a comment without any basic knowledge how the EU, states in gerneral or judicature in said case work, simply assuming everything and dare to call others "pretentious pricks" is quite an amaizing reversal you did there. In order to reconcile the situation; this dispute might simply be due to cultural and personal differences. Like my others post state, I am somewhat interested in a serious discussion on this topic, but MAL might not be the right place for this. So I honestly mistook your most likely honest concerns simply as another halfhearted (near shitpost)-comment like many others before. |
| ppl are out there stealing shit, murdering ppl, raping ppl, selling cocaine but thank god Germany has those illegal anime watchers all under control on a serious note tho, idk if they banned it or what exactly bc u didn't clarify, but I guess you can use VPN to watch it safely? |
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| nothing will happen because the japanese studios don't have the money to fight piracy on a global scale - unlike for example big american movie companies. just for those who don't know how this works: the license holder hires a law firm specilized in copyright violation. those guys then use software (even malware) to track down ip's or go directly to the site owner. afterwards a judge has to give permission to get the real names from the provider for each ip. now finally they can send out those cease and desist letters. takes a lot of time, is expensive and therefore it's pretty unlikely that you will ever get into trouble for pirating anime. the EuGH decision will manly affect illegal movie (!) streaming |
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| Rest in peace... Anime life. Wait. What the hell is that? |
Symphyon said: GangsterCat said: great thing living in shit country no law can be enforced lol Puerto Rico is fucking garbage when it comes to economic state so I'm pretty much fine without enforcing stuff or laws like these. Still they're enforcing stuff that still ruins the country's economic side unfortunately but oh well. Man imagine the UPR strikes if they ban fansubs. I'd be motivated to join one for that cause. |
| I'm sure a leading world power in technology can sniff out a vpn whether they want to waste the time and effort is up to them |
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| If this law is really as strict as it sounds, then I feel bad for you. Although I'm still going to guess that it's nothing major and in the end it'll change nothing. Like in all countries, banning piracy is stupid, since everyone does it. And no one will ever stop. Omkar_Nagwade said: You and I are in the same boat (not exactly). Your Chancellor declared fan subs illegal in Germany, here, the CEO of Sony India decided to replace Animax- a channel which airs anime 24x7 with no ads except anime ads- with a channel with cancer inducing kids cartoons made locally. That is fucked up. Wait seriously? Animax is gone? Fuck! That was the channel that got me into this shit, and was pretty much the only way I could watch anime legally. karthikgoldhawk said: Few months ago a news emerged about what our government had done with these websites and I was LMAO http://indiatoday.intoday.in/technology/story/are-you-a-criminal-now-users-may-get-3-yr-in-jail-for-viewing-torrent-site-blocked-url-in-india/1/745181.html I mean, this didn't really do anything. I don't think anyone I know has stopped torrenting for the past decade. I've never heard of them ever getting fined.. |
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KazuyaKujo said: I'm sure a leading world power in technology can sniff out a vpn whether they want to waste the time and effort is up to them Even Google's supercomputer cannot decrypt AES256 / SHA256 VPN cryptographic keys~ Be wary though that some OpenVPN service may sell your info and browsing data if the price is right. |
| I'd laugh at OP, but if Germany is doing it, someday it will spread to Canada too. |
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lol RIP MelonPan (he's German right?) |
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| I have a feeling this isn't going to be as big of a deal as some people are making it out to be. The people that get in trouble over this new law are likely going to be pirating those big Hollywood movies, not anime. Guess we'll see what happens though. |
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LPGeneratorx said: Omkar_Nagwade said: You and I are in the same boat (not exactly). Your Chancellor declared fan subs illegal in Germany, here, the CEO of Sony India decided to replace Animax- a channel which airs anime 24x7 with no ads except anime ads- with a channel with cancer inducing kids cartoons made locally. That is fucked up. Wait seriously? Animax is gone? Fuck! That was the channel that got me into this shit, and was pretty much the only way I could watch anime legally. Only in India. It's still available everywhere else. |
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Omkar_Nagwade said: LPGeneratorx said: Wait seriously? Animax is gone? Fuck! That was the channel that got me into this shit, and was pretty much the only way I could watch anime legally. Only in India. It's still available everywhere else. Yeah, but unfortunately, I live in India. |
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| How can they punish you for streaming uploaded things that aren't licensed in Germany, you didn't upload them anyway. Sorry to hear op, Keep streaming and see what happens they probably just crack down on the people uploading and that's it. |
he's swiss. The swiss are weird even to germans and us austrians. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| That reminds me of the time my government tried to ban porn. They didn't pass any law or such, but secretly told the ISPs to block them. News got out very quickly and the "ban" or whatever that was, was lifted in a couple of days. Very sucessful that was. Nobody fapped for those 2 days. |
JonasTheJay said: Watching movies or anime fansubs is now officially a crime in Germany and will be punished. Prior to this it was always some kind of legal limbo, but not anymore. The only thing I can do now is to commit suicide use Crunchyroll, but CN really doesn't have that many anime I'm interested in and CN Germany has even less. Why do you have to use CrunchyRoll? Is it just fansubs or any type of free streaming? |
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Keiski said: JonasTheJay said: Watching movies or anime fansubs is now officially a crime in Germany and will be punished. Prior to this it was always some kind of legal limbo, but not anymore. The only thing I can do now is to commit suicide use Crunchyroll, but CN really doesn't have that many anime I'm interested in and CN Germany has even less. Why do you have to use CrunchyRoll? Is it just fansubs or any type of free streaming? Well, every illegal streaming. However I was probably blowing this whole out of proportion, the chance that these anime studios would actually go after me is pretty low. |
| It's because Germany has one of the lowest birth rate in the world. Merkel needs less otakus in her country. Heil Merkel. |
| Oh, man, I feel for ya. Our government has recently banned a lot of anime and manga related content, so far VPN hasn't been made illegal, but I honestly don't know what to do when (and I have a feeling it's when) they'll make it. I can't normally access bato.to or nyaa.se, for example. Don't know what to say to you if VPNs are already banned in Germany. If you have a lot of free money and passion for anime you can collect subscriptions, I guess, but it's at least two - Crunchyroll and Funimation, and then there can be regional locks. Or maybe they'll find some holes in the law. Or you'll have to break the law all the time while worrying. That's what these laws are - many will continue to break them, but a couple will be made into an example, nobody knows who. Anime and manga have been outside of this for long, but now it's becoming more and more complicated( It will hardly stop. |
fuyuki said: Good to live in a country that doesn't give a fuck. I can tell the same. In my place ppl are so focused on economic and political problems than the illegal copies and stream in not-licensed sites. |
| Cuteness > Everything else Cuteness is Love, Cuteness is Life |
| It was always a grey-zone, what do you expect. And with the very limited knowledge I have, this is more important in regards to big movies & series, because those are profitable. At least I have heard of more cases from stuff like this than anime. But in the end this is a kind of topic where only real knowledge can teel you what's right or wrong. |
| Ahh yes i also remember that one time when the Japanese goverment actually gave out a list of anime sites they were going to shut down forever(kissanime, 9anime, gogoanime etc etc...) Lmao i mean they even listed TBP there and at that point i knew nothing was going to happen and look and behold every single one of these sites is still up because the Japs simply gave up lol and then announced something else to cover up them not giving a legit shit about these sites like they never did in the first place xD. |
| The beauty of humans is that they say one thing then do another, but at the same time that can also be their ugliest side. |
| It's time to move from Germany. RIP sir, rip |
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| Damn wtf is that lady doing? I feel for you op. :( |
| Putting out the welcome mat for millions of un-vetted "refugees"? No problem. Watching, say, 2D lolis in WWII tanks? Criminal!! Glad Merkel has her priorities straight. |
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| i hope my country is forever shit because it feels real good to be rich in shit country. |
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| Buy the Blu-rays/DVDs, OP. That's the only solution. |
Rasheed said: Buy the Blu-rays/DVDs, OP. That's the only solution. I would suggest that to any fan in any country (that have BDs/DVDs). |
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