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Apr 27, 2017 9:03 AM
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Watching movies or anime fansubs is now officially a crime in Germany and will be punished. Prior to this it was always some kind of legal limbo, but not anymore. The only thing I can do now is to commit suicide use Crunchyroll, but CN really doesn't have that many anime I'm interested in and CN Germany has even less.

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Apr 27, 2017 9:06 AM
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lmao as if germanistan government can enforce that.
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Apr 27, 2017 9:06 AM
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Wait, what.
How does the actual law sound.
This includes unlicensed stuff?
Apr 27, 2017 9:06 AM
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Lul welp... To be honest it is probably not going to change a thing, do you really think they'll bother to raid your house because you watched some Japanese cartoons?

Or maybe they will.
Apr 27, 2017 9:07 AM
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omg cant believe it, Im happy my country doesnt do that kind of thing
solution- go abroad
Apr 27, 2017 9:07 AM
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my child,this is your golden opportunity to quit anime.you must not pass it
Apr 27, 2017 9:07 AM
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You should be thankful.

Now you can actually have a decent life.

Apr 27, 2017 9:07 AM
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Really? That sucks, although they probably still won't care if you do it.
Apr 27, 2017 9:09 AM
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Wouldn't there be like other options for you to watch anime? If not then I don't really know what to say but good luck to you I guess?

We barely know each other so. x.x
Apr 27, 2017 9:11 AM
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codephat said:
You should be thankful.

Now you can actually have a decent life.


Well uh Idk. Its a form of entertainment so him not watching stuff even if it isn't as very constant its still gonna be a pain in the ass.

Heck PR has shit shows and all and if they tried to enforce something like that I would rather be a pirate :T even though I am. I won't deny that I watch on illegal streams so.
Apr 27, 2017 9:13 AM

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If you use a vpn they wont be able to catch you.. probably.
Apr 27, 2017 9:13 AM

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You're acting like there is no way to watch anime in Germany. But there are actually plenty ways to watch.
If you're not satisfied with Crunchyroll or any of the other streaming services such as Akiba Pass or AOD - then how about import UK/US releases?
Apr 27, 2017 9:14 AM

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Can't you just stream/download privately? I don't know how internet works over there in case you ask.
Apr 27, 2017 9:17 AM

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Symphyon said:
codephat said:
You should be thankful.

Now you can actually have a decent life.


Well uh Idk. Its a form of entertainment so him not watching stuff even if it isn't as very constant its still gonna be a pain in the ass.

Heck PR has shit shows and all and if they tried to enforce something like that I would rather be a pirate :T even though I am. I won't deny that I watch on illegal streams so.
It's a known fact that anime directly correlates to mental illness.
It's a positive, trust.

Apr 27, 2017 9:18 AM

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Ever heard of the Streisand Effect?

Mark my words here, that situation won't last.
One man is no more than another, if he do no more than what another does.

Apr 27, 2017 9:18 AM
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codephat said:
Symphyon said:


Well uh Idk. Its a form of entertainment so him not watching stuff even if it isn't as very constant its still gonna be a pain in the ass.

Heck PR has shit shows and all and if they tried to enforce something like that I would rather be a pirate :T even though I am. I won't deny that I watch on illegal streams so.
It's a known fact that anime directly correlates to mental illness.
It's a positive, trust.


Ehh I dunno. Are you sure on that regard? :o
Apr 27, 2017 9:18 AM

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I don't give two shits, as if this new law will prevent people from watching anime anymore.

One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron


Apr 27, 2017 9:18 AM

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Illuminati just want to steal our waifus
Apr 27, 2017 9:19 AM

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Suck to be german, also with your genetics is impossible to break the law.
Apr 27, 2017 9:19 AM

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Symphyon said:
codephat said:
It's a known fact that anime directly correlates to mental illness.
It's a positive, trust.


Ehh I dunno. Are you sure on that regard? :o
I'd bet my life on it, but my life is almost worthless since I watch anime.

Apr 27, 2017 9:19 AM
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Where did you hear this from? I can't find it anywhere if I look.

Johnnyd3rp said:
Suck to be german, also your genetics make impossible to break the law.


Apr 27, 2017 9:20 AM
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codephat said:
Symphyon said:


Ehh I dunno. Are you sure on that regard? :o
I'd bet my life on it, but my life is almost worthless since I watch anime.

Same bruh.

Actually I'm doing nothing other than watching stuff on the internet so.
Apr 27, 2017 9:20 AM

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Worry not my friend, there's no way they can effectively stop you from watching illegal anime ;)
Apr 27, 2017 9:22 AM

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Manaban said:
Where did you hear this from? I can't find it anywhere if I look.
it's kinda illegal to watch fansubs in most parts of the world
kind of assumed it was in germany already
since it's pirating

Symphyon said:
codephat said:
I'd bet my life on it, but my life is almost worthless since I watch anime.

Same bruh.

Actually I'm doing nothing other than watching stuff on the internet so.
move to germany and you'll be a better person

Apr 27, 2017 9:23 AM
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codephat said:
Manaban said:
Where did you hear this from? I can't find it anywhere if I look.
it's kinda illegal to watch fansubs in most parts of the world
kind of assumed it was in germany already
since it's pirating

well yeah, true

I just kind of assume some sort of major development must've happened recently if it warrants a rant-y thread like this

Apr 27, 2017 9:24 AM

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Manaban said:
codephat said:
it's kinda illegal to watch fansubs in most parts of the world
kind of assumed it was in germany already
since it's pirating

well yeah

But I kind of immediately assume some sort of major development must've happened if it warrants a sudden random thread like this
I just assumed op didn't realize he was already breaking the law.

Apr 27, 2017 9:25 AM

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That's why Austria is better off as a separate country and not part of the Reich, fuckers.
I probably regret this post by now.
Apr 27, 2017 9:26 AM
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codephat said:
Manaban said:
Where did you hear this from? I can't find it anywhere if I look.
it's kinda illegal to watch fansubs in most parts of the world
kind of assumed it was in germany already
since it's pirating

Symphyon said:

Same bruh.

Actually I'm doing nothing other than watching stuff on the internet so.
move to germany and you'll be a better person


No thanks man I'm fine with my corrupted country :^)
Apr 27, 2017 9:27 AM

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JonasTheJay said:
Watching movies or anime fansubs is now officially a crime in Germany and will be punished. Prior to this it was always some kind of legal limbo, but not anymore. The only thing I can do now is to commit suicide use Crunchyroll, but CN really doesn't have that many anime I'm interested in and CN Germany has even less.

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you could link the law, I wanna know what exactly it says
Apr 27, 2017 9:28 AM
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It was illegal all the time and nothing will change. Some jap company would have to sue. They couldn't be bothered with baka gaijin in the past and they won't start bothering now.

Local publishers have always fought against illegal streaming of licensed anime but the pirates were always smarter. No one will be sued because the uploader are the main target, not some fat virgin that streams a show.
Apr 27, 2017 9:30 AM

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Manaban said:
Where did you hear this from? I can't find it anywhere if I look.

I can't find any English articles about this either, but I guess that's because this law wasn't enforced until yesterday.
http://meta.tagesschau.de/id/122702/neues-urteil-des-eugh-achtung-beim-streamen

Darek said:
Lul welp... To be honest it is probably not going to change a thing, do you really think they'll bother to raid your house because you watched some Japanese cartoons?

Probably not, but I'm still kind of afraid of using streaming sites now.
Apr 27, 2017 9:30 AM

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Symphyon said:
codephat said:
it's kinda illegal to watch fansubs in most parts of the world
kind of assumed it was in germany already
since it's pirating

move to germany and you'll be a better person


No thanks man I'm fine with my corrupted country :^)
great thing living in shit country no law can be enforced lol
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Apr 27, 2017 9:31 AM
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Hmmmmmm

Well, I haven't gotten a single fine yet and that link is from at least a year ago

Then again I mostly stream, but I torrent here and there too so w/e

It'll probably be best to invest in an actual VPN in the future though, when I'm not so strapped for money, just to be on the safe side of things

JonasTheJay said:
Manaban said:
Where did you hear this from? I can't find it anywhere if I look.

I can't find any English articles about this either, but I guess that's because this law wasn't enforced until yesterday.
http://meta.tagesschau.de/id/122702/neues-urteil-des-eugh-achtung-beim-streamen

well fuck nvm

Apr 27, 2017 9:31 AM

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pretty sure germany has been strict in that regard for a good while now. I remember some of my friends stocking up on downloads before they went to study to germany for a year because they deemed it too risky to illegally down TV series and movies over there. And that was like 8 years ago.

http://www.settle-in-berlin.com/illegal-file-sharing-germany-letter-cease-desist-warning/

I don't think this is anything new.


e: okay so apparently this new law makes sure that streaming is treated the same way instead of being a grey zone. Sucks to be a streamer, I guess. But it makes sense.
I'm still pretty sure this won't be relevant for non-licensed series since there simply is noone who would pay lawyers to seek out people who watch stuff that nobody has licensed in germany anyway.
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I probably regret this post by now.
Apr 27, 2017 9:32 AM

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You and I are in the same boat (not exactly).
Your Chancellor declared fan subs illegal in Germany, here, the CEO of Sony India decided to replace Animax- a channel which airs anime 24x7 with no ads except anime ads- with a channel with cancer inducing kids cartoons made locally. That is fucked up.

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Apr 27, 2017 9:32 AM

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If you apply the laws from before the internet era, it was not unclear at all. Of course, some people could argue about it in court and avoid a too harsh judgement but only by playing on words. But it was still illegal: you don't have to make and write in the Code a law about stealing an egg if there was already a law about stealing...
In other words, it changed nothing apart maybe allocating a specific sentence/amend to this case in particular.

@codephat It was, always has been and still is. No matter if the cultural product license is owned by a company in the country or not.
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Sucks to be you, hopefully i won't happen to the Netherlands.
Apr 27, 2017 9:34 AM
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GangsterCat said:
Symphyon said:


No thanks man I'm fine with my corrupted country :^)
great thing living in shit country no law can be enforced lol

Puerto Rico is fucking garbage when it comes to economic state so I'm pretty much fine without enforcing stuff or laws like these.

Still they're enforcing stuff that still ruins the country's economic side unfortunately but oh well.
Apr 27, 2017 9:34 AM

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Wow I see a lot of people talking about things they don't know. Stop it guys, they can control what pages you visit and what you download. And as far as I know, Germany has already been doing it for years to avoid gaming piracy and probably with other media too.

Unless some company licenses every anime out there, you're pretty much fucked up
Apr 27, 2017 9:38 AM

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So legends were true ? there are actually people who are afraid of streaming illegal anime ? lol

Hail the myghty Slav country ! Slava ! Slava ! Slava !

oh wait even in our country it is illegal....

well, waiting for SWAT to come...
Apr 27, 2017 9:38 AM
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Germany has already been doing it for years to avoid gaming piracy and probably with other media too.

With torrent when people upload to. Uploading = illegal. Now they said that streaming is illegal. But no one will get sued because of it.

And don't forget that this was just a judgment from the european court. It's not a law yet. Every case needs to go to court and be settled individual and that costs much money.
Apr 27, 2017 9:41 AM

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Good to live in a country that doesn't give a fuck.
Apr 27, 2017 9:44 AM
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JonasTheJay said:
Watching movies or anime fansubs is now officially a crime in Germany and will be punished. Prior to this it was always some kind of legal limbo, but not anymore. The only thing I can do now is to commit suicide use Crunchyroll, but CN really doesn't have that many anime I'm interested in and CN Germany has even less.

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Ich glaube, das gilt sowieso nur für Animes, die nicht in Deutschland lizensiert sind. Außerdem werden sie nicht jeden Bürger in diesem Land anklagen. Das gilt ja auch für Realfilme und Serien.
Ich bin Österreicherin, gilt das für mich auch...? XD

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I don't think it doesn't going to matter. I'll get a Crunchyrollaccount, continue buying english DVDs from animes I love, well other animes...
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Apr 27, 2017 9:47 AM

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I'm still pretty sure this won't be relevant for non-licensed series since there simply is noone who would pay lawyers to seek out people who watch stuff that nobody has licensed in germany anyway.

Yeah, I think you're right. I probably won't receive an adhortatory letter for watching obscure stuff like Space Runaway Ideon or something. It sucks because of licensed anime, but still better than no anime at all I guess.
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Its not like that really had any effect at all
Apr 27, 2017 9:55 AM

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A few months back, Supreme Court of India tried to ban all porn websites for all public domains. The backlash was huge, very huge. Though that's not to say we don't fulfill our sexual fantasies by raping some random woman on the streets.

I expect this to last only for a week or two. If not, we may very well witness history in making where bunch of weebspeople try to impeach a government so that they can fap to their waifus illegally.

Apr 27, 2017 10:07 AM
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I'm not rightly sure what you mean by "european court"

European Court of Justice is the full name.
Apr 27, 2017 10:16 AM
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Bobby2Hands said:
Suck it Germany, this is just Karma's way of paying you back for the holocaust.

Getting back at Germany after WW1 was what caused the Holocaust... Mr. Dumbass, even if you were joking, there's little to no sense behind it. The generation that ran it is already dead— or are you one of those fucktard nationalists that has no place in society, so you try to associate yourself with your country?

You make yourself look bad, no matter how you look at it. The joke wasn't even clever.
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or are you one of those fucktard nationalists that has no place in society, so you try to associate yourself with your country?

Actually I'm one of those starry eyed globalists who just wants everyone to hold hands and sing under a rainbow...sadly though reality has quashed my expectations.
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