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Jan 31, 2017 6:22 AM
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Redcoats?! Now that just got interesting.

This was a rather chaotic episode. It's interesting that they explore other districts and the society in this series. Jean's role in this show continuously gets me curious about what his actual goals are. I mean, he does get kidnapped this episode since he heard about the coup. But for it's worth, I think the episode did a good job at getting the viewers more interested in the different type of societies involved in the story.

At least Warbler ends up staying in the end.
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Jan 31, 2017 8:07 AM
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This show consistantly has me wondering what's going to happen next. Not that it's extremely unpredictable (or very eventful - yet), it's just the story is slow and definitely original, so I really don't know what's going to happen with each coming episode. I'm really enjoying it so far. Jean's role and motivations as the MC are still pretty unknown to us, and I'm excited to see what he'll do in the coming episodes. Hopefully more of what he's really thinking gets revealed soon. Seeing the different districts is really interesting. I'll be looking forward to next week's episode.
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Jan 31, 2017 8:28 AM
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So nino was there in the Coup thing, and Jean (probably) recognized him. Still, don't know what Jean is thinking and what he really wants.

I feel like something gonna happen.. though i have no clue about what.
Jan 31, 2017 9:11 AM
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There are more coups running here.

Nino saved Jean there from being attacked! Good guy, Nino! Jean surely noticed this.

Warbler is a good man, Jean actually let him stay. Nice moment.

Grossular with the ending scene again. What is up with him, are we being led to a false path here?

Lotta is under surveillance, too from the prince it seems. She's also doing interesting stuff with packages.
SmudyJan 31, 2017 9:18 AM
Jan 31, 2017 9:27 AM
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The Suitsu District is quite interesting. It's basically the colonial times. Everyone was awestruck when they saw the phone and cigarette. The coup was a failure, but everyone was released because of Jean to keep a secret. The guy that saved Jean was Niino.
Jan 31, 2017 9:28 AM
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Another very interesting district ("nation")...the world-building in this is fantastic.

I wonder if Jean knows Niino has been onto him for years, i wouldn't be surprised if yes.
The cigarettes...are they some kind of sign?
Jan 31, 2017 9:28 AM
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Suitsu district is a very interesting place, but that doesn't mean I'd like to live there haha, it'll probably be hell for someone like me.

So far I'm loving the 13 district concept, every place is unique and vastly different from each other, I'm looking forward to seeing the next one.
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Jan 31, 2017 9:30 AM
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Very interesting episode.

So there's more than one coup going on here, Interesting.
Pretty sure Jean noticed Nino saving him.

Pretty nice of Jean to make it so that Warbler can see things to the end, hope the Suitsu district can bring about the change they need. Really sad that their representative didn't give a shit about them once he got elected, then again that's not pretty far from politicians today. XD

I'm still unsure what Jean's goal are, What exactly does he want to do in all this and why? He says he does things for cigarettes and even Grossular was concerned about that at the end. Wonder if that actually leads to something. :o
Jan 31, 2017 9:49 AM
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I'm really liking this show. It reminds me of Kino no Tabi with a neutral character which is involved in many stories.
Jan 31, 2017 9:52 AM

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So here we get a dictature within a monarchy with people not having the right to leave nor to live with technology (the way they want). A kind of reservation, or a zoo with humans having limited civil rights.

If you ask me, I'm so much looking forward a king and nobility decapitation. A revolution is needed.

Not so sure about jean playing it cool in any circumstances. It makes this character less credible.
Jan 31, 2017 10:25 AM

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WOAH TECHNOLOGY... It's like they never seen a cellphone before... xD..

Lotta gets stalked by the prince.. hmmm that ain't right

Jean didn't heard all about the coup... and got abducted
Now that their nation is nowhere gone.. they become an outsider...
Am i having a vibe about politics cause it seems like it..

Honestly... Jean's background is a little bit mysterious... I want to more about this coup de tat thing in the next ep.
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Jan 31, 2017 10:49 AM

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I'm impressed with this show, topics of politics generally bore me. I won't even turn on the news here because all that airs is talk about America's new president. However, this show has manage to keep me hooked from episode 1.


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Jan 31, 2017 10:57 AM

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I'm impressed with this show, topics of politics generally bore me. I won't even turn on the news here because all that airs is talk about America's new president. However, this show has manage to keep me hooked from episode 1.

+1


I think Jean is good at reading people and has a sharp mind to read a situation. No wonder, he easily takes right actions without expressing much anxiety (having predicted the outcome). And I am sure he knows about Niino watching him.

I hope we get to see as much different districts in the upcoming episodes as possible. This is always a fun and intriguing watch.
Jan 31, 2017 11:09 AM

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Ooh nice episode.

I really like how every district we see fells very distinct from the others.

And, the more i watch, the more it appears that Jean is just an innocent guy who is being misunderstood by most people and being dragged to take a part of the revolution.

Like apparently his cigarettes come from his "second job" as some kind of sales representative for the people of his condo. Of course, i could be taking it too lightly.

Also, could Nino be a double agent? As he appears to be helping the rebellion.
Jan 31, 2017 11:22 AM

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holyfox6894 said:
I'm impressed with this show, topics of politics generally bore me. I won't even turn on the news here because all that airs is talk about America's new president. However, this show has manage to keep me hooked from episode 1.

+1


I think Jean is good at reading people and has a sharp mind to read a situation. No wonder, he easily takes right actions without expressing much anxiety (having predicted the outcome). And I am sure he knows about Niino watching him.

I hope we get to see as much different districts in the upcoming episodes as possible. This is always a fun and intriguing watch.

I already think this is a show that once it's over you'll need to rewatch to catch the subtle hints of the ending. Of course for now we can't see the subtle hints. :)


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Jan 31, 2017 11:23 AM
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Somehow, this episode gave even more insights into Jean's character, his strong sense for justice is something that was unexpected from a character which appears to be so whimsical.

Jean seems to be a very powerful man as no one wants to get on his bad side.
Jan 31, 2017 11:31 AM
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Good episode, but an acquaintance of mine came up with a really awesome theory that I'll ask his permission to share in a seperate thread
Jan 31, 2017 11:35 AM
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This episode certainly was interesting.

The final scene with Grossular has me interested, I assume he's talking to Nino though, considering the fact he mentioned the cigarette's and Nino, who is keeping watch, most likely knew.

It is interesting, who is sending these cigarette's I wonder? I suspect the ageing man from the first episode, who we see rather early on and have still not seen to this episode. Is he involved in the Coup? Could he be who Nino was chatting to while putting the package on the motorbike? Or could he have been speaking with Grossular? So many unanswered questions.

The Suitsu District was quite interesting, and I wonder if it's ever going to come up again.

I do also wonder what Jean's bad side is, the Director General for the Suitsu District spoke as if he had heard/felt the wrath of Jean's bad side, which must be a pretty bad side if a Director General is shaken by it.
Jan 31, 2017 11:37 AM

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Before this episode I speculated that the magazines/brochures Jean carries around were his method of contacting his coup allies in different districts, but they were actually just a side job so that the businessmen in his apartment complex could expand their businesses in less developed districts? Or is there more to this than meets the eye since it's found out at the beginning of the episode that Grossler secretly owns the apartment building.

This episode was great in that we finally get a small glance as to how Jean views the current system even though more questions are dropped on us.
Jan 31, 2017 11:53 AM

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To us, the viewers, it looks like Nino and Grossular are communicating with each other via cell phones, but I have a feeling that's not the case. I'm suspecting that Grossular is talking to someone that wants to destroy Jean, while Nino is talking to someone that is actually helping or trying to protect Jean.

Someone or something very powerful is on Jean's side and I believe it may be the Liliums.

Once again, I've come away with more questions than answers, but I am still loving every minute of it!
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Jan 31, 2017 11:57 AM

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Felt like Jean deliberately let himself be captured by the guys when he heard "coup d'etat" bec he didn't put up any resistance.
Also like how Jean managed to save everyone at the end.
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Jan 31, 2017 12:31 PM
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Is it just me or is this one of those Japanese misuasge of such terminology, that they can't disgusting the difference between a coup d'etat from a revolution?
Jan 31, 2017 12:57 PM

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This show is so much more interesting and unique than the usual fair. Loving it a lot!
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Jan 31, 2017 1:05 PM

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OK, I definitely didn't expect a French Revolution in this show.
Jan 31, 2017 1:06 PM

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A less interesting episode after the best episode (3). Wasn't that interesting to see the stuff going on in that district. If they can later tie it to an overall plot (maybe coup attempts in other districts) the things we saw in this episode might gain value.

But it showed a bit about Jean and that he is willing to help coup people and he didn't seem involved so far. (At least not in that district.)
Jan 31, 2017 1:26 PM

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The desire of change and the politic state of the district was well detailed. A lot of things happened, but the episode succeed to keep its calm atmosphere.
I'm sure Jean noticed Nino
Jan 31, 2017 1:44 PM

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Hannah_Ana said:
To us, the viewers, it looks like Nino and Grossular are communicating with each other via cell phones, but I have a feeling that's not the case. I'm suspecting that Grossular is talking to someone that wants to destroy Jean, while Nino is talking to someone that is actually helping or trying to protect Jean.


I agree that they are talking to different people. Actually, in the previous episode Niino was talking on the phone with someone after he had a meeting with Groshular. And in this episode it seems to be implied that the owner of the building is in fact Crow's boss.
Jan 31, 2017 2:16 PM
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It is fascinating to watch Jean each week navigate the murky waters of Dōwa's political structure without ever really playing his hand. Four episodes in and I'm still not 1005 sure which side of the possible coup our protagonist is on. In most shows, this would be a deal breaker, but the creative team behind ACCA have crafted an intriguing enough world and cast of characters around Jean that I am interested to see where the story goes.
Jan 31, 2017 4:13 PM

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I really like this show now. Kuzu and ACCA are the only two non-sequel shows that I look forward to.

Jean is such a fun character to watch on screen since he is laid back and chill.

So the nobles prevent Suitsu from development leading to many failed revolutions, and because of Suitsu's strict policy on information/technology even news about a revolution wont make it out. Which just shows how important technology is. The people of Suitsu sure are unlucky, and forever trapped in an underdeveloped state.
Jan 31, 2017 4:44 PM
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Just a theory. What if Jean is an offspring of the king? It would explain why there is such a buzz around him and why they wont let him quit ACCA, because there they would easily know every step he takes.
It would also explain why Niino said that he been watching Jean for 30 years in episode 2, and why nino is reporting to someone other than Groshular. And the owner might be the king himself, because being in that building gives Jean and Lotta quite the confortable life without a lot of effort, and that might be why Niino was calling the owner in this episode.
Jan 31, 2017 4:58 PM

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Jean is such a boss, to stay so calm cool and collective like he does during all this political turmoil.

And he is just a nice guy in general.
Jan 31, 2017 5:39 PM

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this show really is growing on me to bad not a lot of people are giving it a chance, it's not even like anything crazy has happened but i've had some "oh shit" moments in predicting future events .


interesting that there's just a district force to live out a amish like lifestyle meanwhile everyone else has been able to advance in technology just for the sake of tradition and formality


and whoever Niino is talking to they know about this other coup now
Jan 31, 2017 5:52 PM
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I'm very much expecting this to be AOTS.
Jan 31, 2017 6:10 PM

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This anime is becoming quickly so good.
Jean is probably the most chilled guy ever xD This guy is so OP, i still can't believe how he managed to "go out" from that situation and ended up saving those people and that ACCA guy.
But it's sad watching those people having such a shitty life, they are basically living in the XVIII/XVIV century, while the rest of the country is in the XXI century. I really hope the succeed with the revolution.
I still can't get why Groshular is trying to blame everything on Jean, the only theory that i have is that he is the one who is trying to take down the government.
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Jan 31, 2017 6:14 PM

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i wonder if jean always thinking to ACCA and higher up politicians "wtf are these retards doing, spying on me this whole time for no reason...."
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Jan 31, 2017 6:34 PM

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My bet is that suitsu (and its people) will be a great piece for the outcome.

Smudy said:

Grossular with the ending scene again. What is up with him, are we being led to a false path here?


I'm still reading the commentaries but this caught my attention. Tbh, since the 2nd episode, IMO, Grossular is a pawn. What I mean is that he haves that patriotic and duty vibes; The Prime Minister (?) - the black coat bearded man - may be using him as a puppet, to the coup and, maybe, Lillium (the green haired chief with earrings) has another plans regarding the coup but not as the good guy as the anime has shown us.

It's all about hullabaloo, making a buzz, an uproar, while the true puppet master sneak away and do his/her thing. I'll LMAO if the puppet master is Maeve, for example.

One thing is certain: The two extremes is Lilium and Grossular, the opening show this.
About Jean, he said that he can't see people situation during auditions. So, I guess that he'll start to think about all this setup and make his move. I'm pretty sure that he is aware of a thing or two about his situation, besides, he is smart as hell.

This anime surprises me, more and more.
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Jan 31, 2017 7:40 PM

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i wonder if jean always thinking to ACCA and higher up politicians "wtf are these retards doing, spying on me this whole time for no reason...."


Jean is more likely "mendokusai"

Jan 31, 2017 8:01 PM

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Best episode yet. The characters introduced seemed a lot more human than those we've met so far. I'm loving the slow burn and mystery but was super happy to finally get some action too.
Jan 31, 2017 8:39 PM

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was Nino really helping those people? or was he just secretly monitoring Jean?
Jan 31, 2017 9:42 PM

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This episode felt like they are focusing in showing us the importance of Jean's role.
Jan 31, 2017 11:56 PM

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was Nino really helping those people? or was he just secretly monitoring Jean?


I think he kept following Jean (as always) without being in the way, but when real danger appeared he had to interfere.
Feb 1, 2017 12:38 AM

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Jean is fucking awesome man he was a hostage and he turned things around to his side
Feb 1, 2017 5:19 AM

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Interesting episode, even though it did feel like a bit of a departure from the overarching story. The world-building in this show is on point I must say: the Suitsu District is painfully reminiscent of the gap in technology and overall advancement between colonies and mainlands, and the secondary coup d'état was an interesting sub-plot which allowed to further establish both Jean's character and the country's current situation.

Like others I agree that Nino might be playing some kind of double agent game where his actual endgoal is to protect Jean rather than simply monitoring his movements on Grossular's behalf. In which case, hemight be working on his own or could very well be employed by somebody else. Possibly the King, which would give credence to the "Jean = illegitimate royal descendant" theory? Ah, this show keeps me guessing.
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Feb 1, 2017 5:21 AM

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The story that is presented to us, it seems an end in itself, but there is something I do not back this time as well. At the beginning of episode, I thought we were faced yet another act of a bizarre plot, but then, it did not go well, if we analyze the background; there is nothing new to what we already knew before, at least apparently. Known that we focused more on the socio-environmental aspects that the real plot, which would be the coup true or any fictional character whose Jean Otus, should be part of it. I believe that the environmental aspect, it is an element that had to come sooner or later, to make the story credible and intriguing; They have done well to introduce it. Even this time, the characters have, disappointed me, Jean remains shrouded in mystery.
Feb 1, 2017 6:45 AM
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I'm starting to understand slowly why Madhouse chose this to be adapted :)
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Feb 1, 2017 8:04 AM

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well that was interesting how there is always some hidden truths that are not seen but are there....
Feb 1, 2017 12:02 PM

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I like how the people in suitsu (suitsu = sweets for those who didn't notice) have food or drinks names. There's beurre (french for butter), pastis (french alcohol), biscuit, etc...

Sometimes i feel like this anime is even smarter than it looks, and it already looks pretty smart.
Feb 1, 2017 4:04 PM

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Now, that was quite the old-fashioned district this time.


Feb 1, 2017 7:49 PM

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I should probably watch this at day time than at night because it keeps making me fall asleep, I still find it somewhat interesting and wonder how this one will turn out
Feb 2, 2017 2:03 AM
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I smoke a good old pine cigarette while watching the episode, that is how good this anime is..
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