| I was talking from the start of the series to how its progressed. Sports shows basically always have the same generic underdog plot line. I don't mean that its bad I just think it is over-hyped. I was not talking about victor's participation or lack of but the show's introduction of how he is shown being the "ideal" or the "goal". While, on the other hand the MC starts as a loser crying in the bathroom stall. I wasn't talking about his current scoring either but how it progressed from the start of the show. He started off being shown coming in last place and as the show progressed MC gets more confident and he is shown as being a lot "cooler". (Started from the bottom now we're here). That is the underdog trope, and it is a convenient plot device because people like to root for the underdog. Show a loser that people will feel bad for and then turn him into a bad ass because people like to project and insert themselves into that position. I don't have a problem with underdog stories, as they are very common, just with people making them out to be special. Although Chibi art is lazy my problem was not with the art but with its use to try and mask info dumping with chibi art's silly cute style. If you ever take a writing class in your education you will learn that info dumping is a great sin an author can perform. Info dumping is almost always considered bad writing in the writing world. It is a very lazy method, good writers are able to reveal things through the plot. I was not talking about JJ, but Victor. He is Yuri's idol and everything he wants to become in the beginning. Lets be honest here, him just dropping everything and whimsically deciding to teach a Japanese boy because of a viral video sounds completely stupid. However, I think its fine to have absurd and ridiculous plot points in an anime, because it is just an anime. It doesn't have to be grounded in reality. My issue was with people saying their relationship is realistic when their relationship from the get go was completely ridiculous just from how they are brought together in the plot. Their relationship is mostly wish fulfillment and fan service. A lot of the dialogue and interaction is ridiculous, that shit would never happen in a real relationship, although this is mostly due to the comedy, but you get my point. Again I m not trying to say its a bad show, people are just trying to look deeper into it than it really is. |
SoundsOfTheWild3Dec 7, 2016 10:59 PM
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| I kind of understand why. I'm no fujoshi, but Yuri on Ice is a really rare anime and it blew my expectations out of the water. The things that happen in this show are not only things you wouldn't see from a sports anime, but things you wouldn't see in anime period. I dislike the yaoi fanbase since it kind of creeps me out, but with YOI, I understand. |
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| Fujoshi (腐女子 ?, lit. "rotten girl") is a self-mockingly pejorative Japanese term for female fans of manga and novels that feature romantic relationships between men. For me its always funny to see people proudly claiming themselves as Fujoshi Despite its meaning ... I mean its Hilarious lol ... |
| Also, I actually am surprised and proud of how far the Yuri and Victor ship has gone, but I do have my problems with it and the show in general. As much as I enjoy the Victor and Yuri ship, I wish there could be more conflict and maybe more mini-arguments; nothing too melodramatic. And I do feel like this should have been a 24 episode anime since the pacing goes by way too fast. It's episode 10 and it's already been 8 months. Also I wish Yuri would consider his family when he went on the ice instead of Victor all the time. |
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Red_Keys said: That's right, Yuri on Ice!! fans shouldn't have the right to talk about anything even remotely related to the topic of "a love story between two people who just so happen to be guys" despite the fact that it's exactly what the anime revolves aroundPeople commenting about the relationship between two characters in a show about the relationship between characters in a thread and board specifically dedicated to that show, actually aren't talking about the show? What are you smoking? What are people supposed to talk about, the inanimate objects drawn into the background? Because that would be ew gay (also I fap to yuri lolis every day) |
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| Basically like Re:Zero episode discussion talking about rem, emilia and the other waifus? |
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| Yeah. Other fanbase could become malignant as well tho' |
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| yeah they're right up there with furries and SJWs on The Scourge of the Earth list. Gymkata said: Well it can't be any worse than kdrama soompi threads. If you want toxic fangirling go check that shit out lol. yeah but kdrama is supposed to do that. they make the plot weak af and spam the pretty or "flower" boys so the girls can have their fantasies. they don't make the plot far away from pretty/flower boys AND THEN include it. |
TomDayDec 8, 2016 12:06 AM
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kazuro said: Fujoshi (腐女子 ?, lit. "rotten girl") is a self-mockingly pejorative Japanese term for female fans of manga and novels that feature romantic relationships between men. For me its always funny to see people proudly claiming themselves as Fujoshi Despite its meaning ... I mean its Hilarious lol ... it's just like weeaboo lol. but the yaoi fangirls are just 100% torture. if you think that's bad wait until they tell you they support underage sex with demons aka kuroshitsuji. that was nearly 3yrs ago i cam to the franchise and i had to take a year long break from the cancerous fanbase. i still fill up with disgust when i think about it. |
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TomDay said: kazuro said: Fujoshi (腐女子 ?, lit. "rotten girl") is a self-mockingly pejorative Japanese term for female fans of manga and novels that feature romantic relationships between men. For me its always funny to see people proudly claiming themselves as Fujoshi Despite its meaning ... I mean its Hilarious lol ... it's just like weeaboo lol. but the yaoi fangirls are just 100% torture. if you think that's bad wait until they tell you they support underage sex with demons aka kuroshitsuji. that was nearly 3yrs ago i cam to the franchise and i had to take a year long break from the cancerous fanbase. i still fill up with disgust when i think about it. I have been in this community for around 5 years ... For the first 2 years I was a normal person who enjoyed watching anime ... That was the first time I talked with a Kuroshitsuji fangirl and understood the hard-way that there is always a dark aspect to everything ... Then after a few years , to be specific from 2015 , The yaoi anime coming out increased , The Fujoshi community became more fierce ... After Yuri! on Ice came out and Fangirls talking about the apparently 'Healthy Relationship' between guys .. I was not surprised ... Maybe I got used to it or a part of me was already broken... -Extract from The Sad life of Kazuro (93:27) |
kazuro said: I have been in this community for around 5 years ... For the first 2 years I was a normal person who enjoyed watching anime ... That was the first time I talked with a Kuroshitsuji fangirl and understood the hard-way that there is always a dark aspect to everything ... Then after a few years , to be specific from 2015 , The yaoi anime coming out increased , The Fujoshi community became more fierce ... After Yuri! on Ice came out and Fangirls talking about the apparently 'Healthy Relationship' between guys .. I was not surprised ... Maybe I got used to it or a part of me was already broken... -Extract from The Sad life of Kazuro (93:27) RIP i'm so sorry, i still get that part of me that wants to hid and cry in a corner whenever this stuff comes up. i wonder if i should be proud of that or should i be like you.... |
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lizebutnotrize said: GangsterCat said: Translation: "I am uncomfortable with the concept of women loving and analyzing well executed gay relationships, or gay/bi women feeling represented, or women fantasizing about Kpop boybands, or women discovering their sexuality thanks to M/M slash ships... I'm uncomfortable because women actually like things and it doesn't involve me and my fragile heterosexuality."look at yuri on ice episode discussion for example they are all acting like a rabid fans fangirling/fangaying the show like it's end of the world, no one actually commenting about the show, just the gay pairing and how great they are together not even yuri fans are that crazy *faps to lolis* The only difference is that all women (99% of them) fantasize about Yaoi , But less than 40% of men fap to lolis (No actually even less) Your argument is Invalid.. |
lizebutnotrize said: kazuro said: 1. Beatiful statistic there you pulled out of your ass.The only difference is that all women (99% of them) fantasize about Yaoi , But less than 40% of men fap to lolis (No actually even less) Your argument is Invalid.. 2. I added the *faps to lolis* to be edgy, the most important part of my post, which you ignored, is in the paragraph lmao. I'm gonna edit out the *faps to loli* though. I study Economics So I am confident in statistics ... So you better know a few things before you make wrong assumptions... 1. I don't say something without study or personal experience 2.I am Neutral 3.And because of Point 1 and 2 , I am Correct .. And don't be a sore loser... Please.. |
| Well they're not all scary . Actually, i don't think scary is a good word . Annoying ? Well some of them can be annoying with their posts , and when they start throwing their yaoi fanart left and right even if it involves 2 male characters who don't even like each other . |
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SoundsOfTheWild3 said: stand said: Right. Duly noted that you offer the same QUALITY as GangsterCat. I'll keep that in mind for the future. :D lol chill, its not a very serious show, it just wants to be a fun show and fujoshi like to watch it for its gay fan service. If you actually look at the story seriously the writing is pretty shit. It plays out no different from any other generic sports anime. > Have a super awesome figure skating champion that everyone adores. > Have main protagonist that acts like a total little bitch and is a total loser opposite of champion. > Show constantly reminds MC that he came in last place as cheap way to get the audience to feel bad for him and want to cheer for him. > Fool audience by using chibi art to distract audience from the fact that it is using lazy info dumping to explain things instead of doing it through the story like in actual good writing. >Even though he is made out to be a loser he is actually super awesome as a form of manifesting the wish fulfillment of the audience projecting on their reality escapism from their loser lives. > Champion is going to teach him just because that is how it works in real life? Absolutely not just more digging on the reality escapist audience wanting stuff like that to happen to them in the real world. > It is completely okay to have absurd plot points and not have a show grounded in reality but the fans still praise the show for its realistic "character relationships", when the relationship is completely ridiculous and just shallow gay fanservice. > MC just slowly becoming bad ass just like how the audience wish they could become bad asses in real life. Its really is no more than 2-dimensional character development yet MC gets praised for having complex development of a 3-dimensional character. >Constantly switch between "FEELS", gay fanservice, and stupid comedy shit ( which is what makes the show fun) but it is completely immersion breaking, and leaves the plot all over the place because the show is trying to hard to be everything. The show is not the worst anime in existence but it is definitely over-hyped and made out to be more than it is not. Big fan of this comment and in particular the two points I've put in bold. Infodumping and tonal inconsistencies are two of my biggest pet peeves in anime and Yuri on Ice has it in droves. That last point is the same thing also holding back 3-gatsu right now (minus the fanservice) - a show which has the potential to be much better than what it is. |
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lizebutnotrize said: Not only that even here I see @TomDay complaining towards Fujoshi fantasizing under-age relationship in kuroshitsuji but then he has this image in his profile.zal said: Nailed it.Basically like Re:Zero episode discussion talking about rem, emilia and the other waifus? Fanboy hypocrisy: "It's okay if I make five Subaru x Rem/Emilia threads on MAL, but if women do it (which they don't, by the way) I'm gonna be so overwhelmed by it that I'm gonna make a thread about it." Then people complain that anime haters say anime is for perverts ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ And by the way I am not necessarily defending Yuri on Ice, on the contrary if I watched it I probably wouldn't consider it a good series. Most likely I would end up saying that Re:Zero and Yuri on ice or their fanbases are equally bad. However the hypocrisy in the anime community is strong. |
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lizebutnotrize said: IDK MAAAAAN IM NOT REZERO FAN OUT OF TOPICzal said: Nailed it.Basically like Re:Zero episode discussion talking about rem, emilia and the other waifus? Fanboy hypocrisy: "It's okay if I make five Subaru x Rem/Emilia threads on MAL, but if women do it (which they don't, by the way) I'm gonna be so overwhelmed by it that I'm gonna make a thread about it." |
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| Anime fanbase tend to be cancer anyway, nothing surprising. I think rabid fujoshis of series who are not actually yaoi/shonen ai are worse. At least with things like Yuri on Ice they have good reasons to ship. But, like stated above, anime fanbase is pretty bad overall. And diehard shippers (independently of the type of pairing they ship) are specially bad. |
IllyricusDec 8, 2016 2:21 AM
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Illyricus said: Anime fanbase tend to be cancer anyway, nothing surprising. I think rabid fujoshis of series who are not actually yaoi/shonen ai are worse. At least with things like Yuri on Ice they have good reasons to ship. But, like stated above, anime fanbase is pretty bad overall. And diehard shippers (independently of the type of pairing they ship) are specially bad. Well yeah pretty much... Agreed upon everything you said ... Almost the entire fan-base is Cancerous ... Besides , This might be the opinion everyone here agrees with ... Soo I guess.. </thread> |
| @Illyricus I just realized your profile stats are Strikingly similar to mine :O ... |
| Yuri!! On Ice fujoshi/fundashi fans are blind to the poor quality of everything in that show coz their love for the pairing of Victor and Yuri makes them see nothing else Yuri!! On Ice is shit Except for Yuri. Yuri is cute |
River_CloudDec 9, 2016 9:46 AM
Fancy Quote Anime isn't Life But what's Life without some Anime, NEEEEEEE!!!!! |
| Do people always get this butthurt when something made with the female demographic in mind ends up being popular???? This is the MOST fun I've ever had watching an anime because the levels of butthurt for no reason is off the scale. If I were still in high school and insecure though, posts like this would make me feel bad for liking what I do. Which is why people don't like the anime community. It's not fujoshi or ecchi fans or people who love a series so much they don't see its faults . . . it's people who try to shame others into not enjoying something because it's not to their taste or they don't understand it. Newsflash, not everyone likes what you do. And that's okay. What's not okay, is generalizing a whole group of people. Yes, some fujoshi take things too far, but so do fans of everything! I mean, sports fans get in actual fist fights sometimes. And if you don't like something, don't get upset when you post how much you don't like it in the show's forum and get a negative response. That's just looking for drama. |
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lady_freyja said: kazuro said: Fujoshi (腐女子 ?, lit. "rotten girl") is a self-mockingly pejorative Japanese term for female fans of manga and novels that feature romantic relationships between men. For me its always funny to see people proudly claiming themselves as Fujoshi Despite its meaning ... I mean its Hilarious lol ... Despite that it's the fujoshi themselves who created the word for themselves. Like the acronym "yaoi" means basically "useless story", and here again it's the fujoshi who created that word. It's part of the yaoi culture; don't take yourself seriously. A lot of movements, notably political and societal movements are doing the same, creating or re-using for themselves pejorative words. A reversal of values. In the case of the fujoshi, the "rotten" means that they're not normal, they don't fit the norm, hence they're "rotten" in the eyes of the "normal society". That does not change the fact that it is a self-degrading word , Then again it was quite a shock to know they themselves made the word :O ... But I also kind of get it because the same thing goes with the term 'Otaku' ... Many people are proud of it despite knowing it is a negative term ... Although I just cannot relate with this , I kind of in a way get it when I put myself in their shoes... No wait... I still don't get it.. |
| >talking about characters relationships in a show = not talking about the show >fujoshis are the only kind of fans in the world who fangasm Why in the fuck haven't they banned this insufferable spambot already? |
Deknijff said: good question man Never knew girls liked guys with dicks coming out of their nipples existed until my fujoshi friend showed me the VNs she plays but hey I don't judge What VN did she play? For research purposes... |
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| Well I think this is the most evident in the most recent episode of Yuri on Ice (#10), which despite being mostly a filler episode still got over 90% 5/5s in the episode discussion thread solely because there was this one super serious shipping scene... so to some extent yes But don't go around saying that fujoshis are the only obsessive anime fans out there because they certainly aren't. For example Love Live's idol otaku fanbase can be unbelievably obnoxious for similar reasons. Even yuri fans can be pretty annoying, though you don't see them as much since yuri anime isn't very common |
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| Fujoshi literally means "rotten woman". You have your answer right there. I'm not THAAAT crazy about yuri (yeaheah right) but it depends on the fudanshi you're talking about. |
Gawdess said: Fujoshi literally means "rotten woman". You have your answer right there. I'm not THAAAT crazy about yuri (yeaheah right) but it depends on the fudanshi you're talking about. Still the forum fights can get pretty scary...so I agree |
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ibraheem234 said: Gawdess said: Fujoshi literally means "rotten woman". You have your answer right there. I'm not THAAAT crazy about yuri (yeaheah right) but it depends on the fudanshi you're talking about. Still the forum fights can get pretty scary...so I agree Then don't fight with them. I have a good friend who loves yaoi, but I never take my chance on pointing out her obsession. |
| @Gawdess you're a good friend I hope I had more friends like you |
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| @Gawdess If you do it you wouldn't be a good friend. Well at least unless she rubs it in your face 24/7. Then you are more a victim. |
| I'm feeling thank you |
Domi said: @Gawdess If you do it you wouldn't be a good friend. Well at least unless she rubs it in your face 24/7. Then you are more a victim. Nah she doesn't rub it in my face. Who would be friends with fujoshis like that anyway? |
Tenshi_Shura said: she says the title is Hadaka ShitsujiDeknijff said: What VN did she play? For research purposes...good question man Never knew girls liked guys with dicks coming out of their nipples existed until my fujoshi friend showed me the VNs she plays but hey I don't judge |
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Gawdess said: I for sure wouldn't but imagine you have a good friend and she turns completely fujoshi, also the despicable type. I'm pretty sure in this case it would be more than okay to be vocal about it :3Domi said: @Gawdess If you do it you wouldn't be a good friend. Well at least unless she rubs it in your face 24/7. Then you are more a victim. Nah she doesn't rub it in my face. Who would be friends with fujoshis like that anyway? |
| I'm feeling thank you |
Domi said: Gawdess said: I for sure wouldn't but imagine you have a good friend and she turns completely fujoshi, also the despicable type. I'm pretty sure in this case it would be more than okay to be vocal about it :3Nah she doesn't rub it in my face. Who would be friends with fujoshis like that anyway? Well. Yeah. But she hasn't been like that. She told me to give a chance to a yaoi manga, I said that it wasn't my type and she was cool about it. |
RainyRai said: Once I said Yuri x Viktor was not that good of a ship and then when I went to sleep I woke up with my limbs being cut off, the corpses of my family in front of me, and an old man sleeping with my body pillow. fujoshi's are the ultimate predator of mankind son, don't bother them and you will be fine. holy moly. one day fujoshis will take over this miserable world |
| @lady_freyja Thanks for the Info!!! ^_^ |
Rellexia said: They don't look anymore crazier to me than the boys going on about their best girls and their waifu's, they just put more enthusiasm into the text. Pretty much this, but I guess no one gets tired of fujoshi-bashing. |
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tsuyokunaru said: Rellexia said: They don't look anymore crazier to me than the boys going on about their best girls and their waifu's, they just put more enthusiasm into the text. Pretty much this, but I guess no one gets tired of fujoshi-bashing. amen. All the people with their waifu and best girl talk give just as little of a shit about the actual content of the shows they are talking about. And it's most likely exactly those kind of people who complain the hardest about the behaviour of the fujoshis -.-. Just your usual hypocrisy. Personally I just ignore both since I watch anime for other reasons. It's not that hard ignoring them, I can recommend it to OP & co. Give it a try sometime. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| * i smell butthurt here* hypocrisy at its highest to the OP who even bothered clicking on 'fujoshi-type-of-shows' threads ( when it's easy just to avoid them)seriously whining. ....be scared OP, be scared~~ and the likes with OP~~ xDD, the other fanbase are just cancerous as this fujoshi. |
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