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Nov 6, 2016 10:54 PM
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Ok instead of Worldbuilding let's talk about your view and opinion on waifubuilding here.

The term is probably sounded dumb but please ignore it

How much important do you think it is for you?
which series is your favorite waifubuilding? why?
what does a series need in order to qualify as a good waifubuilding series? hope you're not going to give a dumb and obvious answer like "it needs good waifu/best girl or the like"

Personally I think Grisaia no Kajitsu(VN obviously) is the best waifubuilding series, every girl are like a flower in garden with interesting trait, well characterized personality and proper 3 dimensional development in their own route.

I was also about to mention TLRD, it has alot of waifu-material on surface but all of them are 1 dimensional characters which is easily get tedious quickly.
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How much important do you think it is for you? In series with a notable and large female cast (harems, ecchi, some shonens, magical girls series...) is very important, since the girls are the prime reason why I am watching the show. Of course, in GAR series like JoJo, I don't care at all for this.

which series is your favorite waifubuilding? why? The Monogatari Series easily, because not only has likeable and well designed girls, but also develops and flesh out them too, showing how flawed they are despite how ideal they look in the outside, apart of how they deal and solve their problems without the presence of the MC in some cases, who make them not depending or having their lifes revolving around the protagonist.

D-Frag deserves an honorable mention, because it's another of those rare series where every girl is best girl, even when they are not complex or deep.

what does a series need in order to qualify as a good waifubuilding series? It needs to have good designs for the girls and make them likeable. I don't ask something more than that. Of course, if the series makes the girls more complex, that is welcomed, but I don't need something like that to enjoy a show.

Btw, 10/10 post, OP.
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Nov 7, 2016 12:31 AM
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I just second everything he has said ^ aside from D-Frag because I haven't seen it.
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So you mean "anime with female characters who have good character development"? Love Live, Aikatsu, Steins;Gate, Hyouka, Hibike Euphonium, and Yama no Susume are some anime with well written females. I consider it to be a very important aspect of an anime to have well written females and if the anime doesn't supply that then it should at least have some well written males.
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Im not a retarded weaboo pervert so I dont think about these kind of things nor watch these kind of shows.


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Im not a retarded weaboo pervert so I dont think about these kind of things nor watch these kind of shows.
TIL there are no griffith boddy pillows to be found on google images

except for this one with the other griffith
Nov 7, 2016 2:07 AM
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Weren't waifus just a poor taste joke?
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I only think waifubuilding is shit. And that kind of show is shit. . .
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I really love the harem build up on monster musume, and haiyore nyaruko san. All the girls are likable and cheerful. no tsundere and yandere that can lead to school days ending. hehe.

the unique behavior of the characters makes the harem more likable and acceptable.


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The best waifu building anime was obviously Re:zero, although there was only one girl who earned that while the rest were subpar:

The whales.
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Personally I think Grisaia no Kajitsu(VN obviously) is the best waifubuilding series, every girl are like a flower in garden with interesting trait, well characterized personality and proper 3 dimensional development in their own route.
Grisaia no Kajitsu has Sachi, best girl ever. She is not only a super well written character (lol, all Grisaia characters), but she is the best waifu in existence!!
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All this waifu shit make me wanna die.
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Monster Musume is the best waifubuilding series. It has a diverse set of girls that trigger my carnal desires and is one of the most entertaining ecchi shows I've ever seen.
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LoNNoL said:
Personally I think Grisaia no Kajitsu(VN obviously) is the best waifubuilding series, every girl are like a flower in garden with interesting trait, well characterized personality and proper 3 dimensional development in their own route.


I wholeheartedly agree OP. Although I do have to say that Michiru is definitely the most superior of the lot.
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The best waifu building anime was obviously Re:zero, although there was only one girl who earned that while the rest were subpar:

The whales.


Re: zero is a bad LN adaptation, those don't have good waifubuilding.

Many idol anime do have good waifubuilding, especially the first Idolm@ster and both the original Love Live and Sunshine.


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All this waifu shit make me wanna die.
You read my mind. All MAL members who brag about their 2d waifus are huge losers who pass out the moment a real girl talks to them
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All your waifus are belong to us.

In other words, ur waifu is shit.

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NO WAIFU NO LAIFU!!
WARUDOS WITHOUT WAIFUS IZU SHITTO!!
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why build up a waifu that will lose in the end ....
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Illyricus said:

which series is your favorite waifubuilding? why? The Monogatari Series easily, because not only has likeable and well designed girls, but also develops and flesh out them too, showing how flawed they are despite how ideal they look in the otside, apart of how they deal and solve their problems without the presence of the MC in some cases, who make them not depending or having their lifes resolving around the protagonist.

Ayyyy, couldn't have said it better myself.
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Dishonest said:
Im not a retarded weaboo pervert so I dont think about these kind of things nor watch these kind of shows.

Gexis said:
All this waifu shit make me wanna die.

Thank you for existing. I am at peace now.
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Finally a good serious post in these tiring times of dank memes and trolling.

How much important do you think it is for you?

Waifubuilding is very important; the most endearing and most interesting characters are the girls - they take up most of my attention since I watch them as much as I can. The guys aren't really all that important. So it's important to pay attention to the girls, and show us their best qualities, their waifu potential, so to speak. This is not an easy task. We have to ask ourselves "what is a good waifu?", but that would lead to philosophical discussions, and many differing opinions and interpretations.

Now, the author has to show to us which girl, they think are best girl; they have to show us their interpretation of the "best waifu", while also leaving options open for us to choose, so WE can still interpret things. So obviously a show with many girls is going to have to delve into the waifu potential of each girl, but the most important girl, is the girl being paid most attention to. A show that has many different waifus, but none of them are highlighted or explored, it shows us that the author himself does not understand what makes for a good waifu, or a waifu in general.

which series is your favorite waifubuilding? why?

Queen's Blade has a lot of waifu building: every waifu has very distinct waifu qualities, and these are properly explored, with each girl getting enough screen time, while still showing us more of the main waifus; later on the author also shows us some wifes, this stands symbolic for what he thinks are the best kinds of waifus. He explores every nook and cranny of what makes a waifu, while also providing us an opinion what he thinks makes a good waifu, without forcing us to take the authors opinion.

what does a series need in order to qualify as a good waifubuilding series?

Exploration of what makes a wiafu and an interpretation of what is a good waifu. The second part is optional, of course and if the author can't present this to us without forcing it onto us, he shouldn't try doing that and leave it up to our interpretation. Some shows are good while doing this, but these shows can also lack wiafocus (focus on specific wiafus), leaving us only with mediocre waifu exploration.
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Illyricus said:
which series is your favorite waifubuilding? why? The Monogatari Series easily, because not only has likeable and well designed girls, but also develops and flesh out them too, showing how flawed they are despite how ideal they look in the otside, apart of how they deal and solve their problems without the presence of the MC in some cases, who make them not depending or having their lifes resolving around the protagonist.


Kek, never thought i forgot to mention Monogatari series. such a sin. must die.

It needs to have good designs for the girls and make them likeable. I don't ask something more than that. Of course, if the series makes the girls more complex, that is welcomed, but I don't need something like that to enjoy a show.

So my friend, how do you define "likeable" and what does a character need to be qualified as one?

zal said:
Weren't waifus just a poor taste joke?
depends on context and perspective.

Kurniawan_Ktr said:
I only think waifubuilding is shit. And that kind of show is shit. . .
In simple term waifu is pretty much your ultimate favorite female character, something along those line. It's long and I abbreviated it to waifu because I think the user here isn't that dumb to get the point across.

I'm not really sure, to you, why a show that cater around a female character, building a proper female character is consider to be shit. are you perhaps has something against female character? Are you implying that show that give female character a proper characterization and development and inner part exploration are shit?
That's pretty sexist point of view if you ask me.


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Im not a retarded weaboo pervert so I dont think about these kind of things nor watch these kind of shows.
It's about taste dude.

You find entertainment in show like Mushishi, an atmospherics show.
while other find entertainment in the art of portraying and exploration female character's outside trait and inner part.
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It needs to have good designs for the girls and make them likeable. I don't ask something more than that. Of course, if the series makes the girls more complex, that is welcomed, but I don't need something like that to enjoy a show.

So my friend, how do you define "likeable" and what does a character need to be qualified as one?
That really depends, since I find a character likeable for multiple motives who doesn't necessarily has to be the same in each character.
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all your questions are answered by the mc[the girl obvi] from triple HHH
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zal said:
Weren't waifus just a poor taste joke?

They are.

It's like PC Master Race. People started it as comedy and then others started taking it seriously and using the statement literally.

Same type of people.
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Hoppy said:
JewellTH said:
The best waifu building anime was obviously Re:zero, although there was only one girl who earned that while the rest were subpar:

The whales.


Re: zero is a bad LN adaptation, those don't have good waifubuilding.

You dare insult best waifu, Whale-chan?????????
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Illyricus said:
How much important do you think it is for you? In series with a notable and large female cast (harems, ecchi, some shonens, magical girls series...) is very important, since the girls are the prime reason why I am watching the show. Of course, in GAR series like JoJo, I don't care at all for this.

which series is your favorite waifubuilding? why? The Monogatari Series easily, because not only has likeable and well designed girls, but also develops and flesh out them too, showing how flawed they are despite how ideal they look in the otside, apart of how they deal and solve their problems without the presence of the MC in some cases, who make them not depending or having their lifes resolving around the protagonist.

D-Frag deserves an honorable mention, because its another of those rare series where every girl is best girl, even when they are not complex or deep.

what does a series need in order to qualify as a good waifubuilding series? It needs to have good designs for the girls and make them likeable. I don't ask something more than that. Of course, if the series makes the girls more complex, that is welcomed, but I don't need something like that to enjoy a show.

Btw, 10/10 post, OP.
Love you Illy-kun (no homo)
Monogatari series ftw

But you should have at least mention Re:zero like @JewellTH chan too,

JewellTH said:
The best waifu building anime was obviously Re:zero, although there was only one girl who earned that while the rest were subpar:

The whales.
whale-chan is too cute. can't resist.
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How much important do you think it is for you?
Yes, waifubuilding is important. An anime that isn't properly saturated with attractive female characters is too much like real life. And anime that is saturated with bland and uninteresting female characters is too boring. A good author can fill an anime/manga with waifu material girls, yet give them all distinction and purpose.

which series is your favorite waifubuilding? why?
As an example, I would like to talk about Mahou Sensei Negima manga. It's a harem that starts with a class of 31 girls, and doesn't stop there. Sure, not all of them get enough spotlight, but even so, each of them is quite distinctive.
It is a diversity like that that has given birth to one of my favorite female characters, Ayase Yue. In a lesser manga, she would be part of the undrawn mass of "other people", yet here, she is a character I find most relatable and huggable.

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why build up a waifu that will lose in the end ....

1) That's why true harem endings are the best. Everybody wins.

2) Why do you want her to "win" this loser of an MC? Do you not want her to be happy? Do you not want to keep her for yourself?
Nov 8, 2016 7:57 AM

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whale-chan is too cute. can't resist.
Woot?? I demand you to stop this misogynistic whaling! Bring back justice! (,,#οΎŸΠ”οΎŸ)


And Illy kun already said it all!
Nothing much I can add except for saying they anime needs SOME more smug likeable piece of shit like Chitose too. Watari knows how to get his shit done! :3

Monogatari FTW
Nadeko FTW!
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Illyricus said:
How much important do you think it is for you? In series with a notable and large female cast (harems, ecchi, some shonens, magical girls series...) is very important, since the girls are the prime reason why I am watching the show. Of course, in GAR series like JoJo, I don't care at all for this.

which series is your favorite waifubuilding? why? The Monogatari Series easily, because not only has likeable and well designed girls, but also develops and flesh out them too, showing how flawed they are despite how ideal they look in the otside, apart of how they deal and solve their problems without the presence of the MC in some cases, who make them not depending or having their lifes resolving around the protagonist.

D-Frag deserves an honorable mention, because its another of those rare series where every girl is best girl, even when they are not complex or deep.

what does a series need in order to qualify as a good waifubuilding series? It needs to have good designs for the girls and make them likeable. I don't ask something more than that. Of course, if the series makes the girls more complex, that is welcomed, but I don't need something like that to enjoy a show.

Btw, 10/10 post, OP.
Love you Illy-kun (no homo)
Monogatari series ftw

But you should have at least mention Re:zero like @JewellTH chan too,

JewellTH said:
The best waifu building anime was obviously Re:zero, although there was only one girl who earned that while the rest were subpar:

The whales.
whale-chan is too cute. can't resist.
Oh, Gen-kun, you'll make me blush.


And, yeah, Re: Zero has good waifus, but unlike the examples I gave on my post, the difference between the toptier waifus (Crusch/whale/Betelgeuse) and the rest it's so big it cannot compare the other examples.
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i believe that Amagami SS format is the best for harems,every girl got her ending

euh ..yep i just want to see her happy even with a loser mc (loser mcs are nice people though)
anyway , fuck nisekoi and re zero i will never forgive them ....
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I just let my carnal desire take over, at the end, that all that matters.
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It's got to be Aoi Hana of course. The characters are very kind-hearted, graceful and thoughtful young women who I adore very much. Not to also mention my best girl is in this anime ( o w o)
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Where is the Waifu Building, I'm sure that's where the cute moe girls are stored.
As for a Waifubuilding sereis, I guess a good harem type series like Haganai, or even Tenchi Muyo would be fine.
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Kurniawan_Ktr said:
I only think waifubuilding is shit. And that kind of show is shit. . .
In simple term waifu is pretty much your ultimate favorite female character, something along those line. It's long and I abbreviated it to waifu because I think the user here isn't that dumb to get the point across.

I'm not really sure, to you, why a show that cater around a female character, building a proper female character is consider to be shit. are you perhaps has something against female character? Are you implying that show that give female character a proper characterization and development and inner part exploration are shit?
That's pretty sexist point of view if you ask me.


well, character development is one of the major elements that I seek in anime. I don't have anything against a female character. If you look at my favorite list, there are SEL and Wolf Children which both focuses on a female character.

But, your example implying that waifubuilding show is a show that has many female character (read: harem). And a good waifubuilding show is a show that give each female characters a proper development. And that's the problem for me, since it against my preferences.

As I said before, character development is one of major elements that I seek. But it's not the main point. I still have my own preferences.
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Kurniawan_Ktr said:
LoNNoL said:
In simple term waifu is pretty much your ultimate favorite female character, something along those line. It's long and I abbreviated it to waifu because I think the user here isn't that dumb to get the point across.

I'm not really sure, to you, why a show that cater around a female character, building a proper female character is consider to be shit. are you perhaps has something against female character? Are you implying that show that give female character a proper characterization and development and inner part exploration are shit?
That's pretty sexist point of view if you ask me.


well, character development is one of the major elements that I seek in anime. I don't have anything against a female character. If you look at my favorite list, there are SEL and Wolf Children which both focuses on a female character.

But, your example implying that waifubuilding show is a show that has many female character (read: harem). And a good waifubuilding show is a show that give each female characters a proper development. And that's the problem for me, since it against my preferences.

As I said before, character development is one of major elements that I seek. But it's not the main point. I still have my own preferences.
or it could be a show with just 1 high quality waifu (like lain and wolf girl see also: kuma miko)
thats some top tier waifubuilding
gosh damn i love this word
we're making history in this thread
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@romagia if it defined like that then I wouldn't think they all are shit. My bad for misinterpret the term. Well, I basically was saying "harem genre is shit, even it gives all of it female characters a proper development"
"People who don't see that anime has changed are either wearing "glasses" or watching only a certain type (and or era) of anime"
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"Elitist is people who think he is superior than others. Not necessarily ones who insulting/critisizing your favorite anime or people who enjoy a certain type of anime"
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Kurniawan_Ktr said:
LoNNoL said:
In simple term waifu is pretty much your ultimate favorite female character, something along those line. It's long and I abbreviated it to waifu because I think the user here isn't that dumb to get the point across.

I'm not really sure, to you, why a show that cater around a female character, building a proper female character is consider to be shit. are you perhaps has something against female character? Are you implying that show that give female character a proper characterization and development and inner part exploration are shit?
That's pretty sexist point of view if you ask me.


well, character development is one of the major elements that I seek in anime. I don't have anything against a female character. If you look at my favorite list, there are SEL and Wolf Children which both focuses on a female character.

But, your example implying that waifubuilding show is a show that has many female character (read: harem). And a good waifubuilding show is a show that give each female characters a proper development. And that's the problem for me, since it against my preferences.

As I said before, character development is one of major elements that I seek. But it's not the main point. I still have my own preferences.
for argument sake i won't argue about your misinterpret of the term and proceed to other point.

what wrong with have many female and has alot of proper and good development? Do you hate a show with a lot of male too? why?
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Kurniawan_Ktr said:


well, character development is one of the major elements that I seek in anime. I don't have anything against a female character. If you look at my favorite list, there are SEL and Wolf Children which both focuses on a female character.

But, your example implying that waifubuilding show is a show that has many female character (read: harem). And a good waifubuilding show is a show that give each female characters a proper development. And that's the problem for me, since it against my preferences.

As I said before, character development is one of major elements that I seek. But it's not the main point. I still have my own preferences.
or it could be a show with just 1 high quality waifu (like lain and wolf girl see also: kuma miko)
thats some top tier waifubuilding
gosh damn i love this word
we're making history in this thread
keep up the good work fams
<3 glad you don't think the word sound dumb :P
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Im not a retarded weaboo pervert so I dont think about these kind of things nor watch these kind of shows.



Holy shit you're cool. You only watch cool cartoons. kys

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i believe that Amagami SS format is the best for harems,every girl got her ending

euh ..yep i just want to see her happy even with a loser mc (loser mcs are nice people though)
anyway , fuck nisekoi and re zero i will never forgive them ....

Well, I agree with you about wanting to see her happy. And I guess I have to see Amagami SS one day.
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@LoNNoL

what wrong with have many female and has alot of proper and good development?


well, let me clarify it brother :). I was not talking about a show with lots of female that isn't a harem. I was talking about harem (my bad for misinterpet it).

For harem, It doesn't matter if the characters gets a proper development or not, they all are shit in my eyes because they are harem.

Do you hate a show with a lot of male too? why?

If you mean a reverse harem, then yes. I also hate such shows.

The best question actually is "why do you hate harem?". But, it's another story.
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Seriously having a waifu be like...
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Im not a retarded weaboo pervert so I dont think about these kind of things nor watch these kind of shows.



Holy shit you're cool. You only watch cool cartoons. kys

ofc I am, I also dont tell people who recognize it to kill themseleves ;) <cool wink>


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Dishonest said:
Selenium_Thorium said:



Holy shit you're cool. You only watch cool cartoons. kys

ofc I am, I also dont tell people who recognize it to kill themseleves ;) <cool wink>


.....what a horrible comeback. Really. I could've thought of 10 comebacks that are so much better off the top of my head. You're no fun to bully

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>For harem, It doesn't matter if the characters gets a proper development or not, they all are shit in my eyes because they are harem.
why?
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You mean something like this right? Atleast, that's what pops into my mind...

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Milk_is_Special said:
You mean something like this right? Atleast, that's what pops into my mind...

[img*]https://i.ytimg.com/vi/BHk_OQ9Fxaw/maxresdefault.jpg[/img]
I thought you're going to post another Akeno pic,
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Nov 9, 2016 9:19 PM

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1. I think it's important to me in the same way any character-building is important. I'm not a huge fan of the term "Waifubuilding" because I don't like overly cliche or tropey characters, but I get what you're saying when you use that term. That said, I think only a very few anime really do "Waifubuilding" correctly, because imo ideally I should like a female character because of her unique traits, beliefs, and actions and most shows seem to do "Waifubuilding" by throwing a bunch of obligatory "moe moments" at you or whatever.

2. Monogatari Series, hands down. For me, it has the best character development I've seen in any anime. All the development is done through natural dialogue and shown in the characters' actions without needless exposition. I also love how every character has a different relationship and different interactions with every other character (like real life people), it gives them a lot more depth than I usually see in shows with a large female cast. Lots of tropes and cliches are flipped upside down and satirized in this series, which I think is cool.

3. I guess I sort of answered this last question in my other answers lol. Less tropes and cliches, more focus on getting you attached to the character because their story is relatable or they just have a unique personality you really like.
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