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Any ideas? its basically just nudity without sexual interaction why not just still label it as hentai and keep all the 11 years old from watching it
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Cuz it's like porn, but not really porn. It's created for the purpose of when you want a stiffy, but don't want to wank.
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Any ideas? its basically just nudity without sexual interaction why not just still label it as hentai and keep all the 11 years old from watching it
can't you see why it's handy to have 2 different tags for ecchi and hentai? they obv mean different things

and its not like labeling it hentai will keep the 11 yo from watching it lolol
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Because not everybody likes straight up porn. It's like yaoi and shounen ai. Both are literally the same genre, except one of them has sexual interaction.

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Ecchi has actual stories and characters, they don't need to resort to constant sex for an audience.
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well ecchi is usally used as a setup for something else, like comedy, whereas hentai is just nudity for the sake of nudity itself
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Ecchi has actual stories and characters.
and this, hentai is often drawn bad, animated bad and has a bad/no story because the main goal is to show full nudity and stuff, ecchi's focus is always the story, it just sometimes gets overshadowed my the massive amounts of "fanservice"

good examples: no game no life and Nanatsu no Taizai
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ichii_1 said:
Ecchi has actual stories and characters, they don't need to resort to constant sex for an audience.
I was going to flat out say wrong, but I mean it's somewhat true. I feel like ecchi anime a lot of the time is pretty subpar. I will say, hentai is pure porn which isn't allowed on TV. Ecchi is just "fanservice" which is okay to show on TV. I think a big part of it, is if a show was labled as porn it wouldn't be allowed on TV? My wording isn't perfect, but it is roughly that concept.
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I think some ecchi are like porn (T_T) and I hate that but then there are the " funny " ecchi , like Nanatsu No Taizai (n_n) and then, I think it´s okay ( okay, NOT always okay xD ) but in nnt you can see that there is true love and not playing .
I think they made this genre because it is perverted but not porn and they didn´t knew where to put it xD
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Ecchi is not a genre but it is used to describe shows with sexual overtones without actual sex or shown genitalia.
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ichii_1 said:
Ecchi has actual stories and characters, they don't need to resort to constant sex for an audience.


lol enlighten me what story and characters are you referring to
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well, you made it a genre, because as far as i know it's not a genre.
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well, you made it a genre, because as far as i know it's not a genre.
Genre art is the pictorial representation in any of various media of scenes or events from everyday life

ecchi is most certainly genre art
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kawaiimirtillo said:
I think some ecchi are like porn (T_T) and I hate that but then there are the " funny " ecchi , like Nanatsu No Taizai (n_n) and then, I think it´s okay ( okay, NOT always okay xD ) but in nnt you can see that there is true love and not playing .
I think they made this genre because it is perverted but not porn and they didn´t knew where to put it xD


Yeah but that's what I don't understand why make a good anime and then throw ecchi at their face every 2 minutes now it just seems like they have no confidence in their story and characters and want to keep the money coming just because of sexualization thats just pathetic
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the sole purpose of ecchi is so that doujins get made for the series, which are 10x better for ecchi series due to the viewer having pent up sexual urges after watching 12 episodes worth of cockteases. also emotional bonding with the characters can improve the doujin's fappability for some people
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well, you made it a genre, because as far as i know it's not a genre.
Genre art is the pictorial representation in any of various media of scenes or events from everyday life

ecchi is most certainly genre art


That doesn't describe every ecchi, so they can't exactly be used synonymously. I didn't use any ambiguity in my sentence either, so your pun kinda loses strength. try again
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Ecchi phonetically sounds like H which is used to refer to Hentai or perverse/sexy/naughty/etc. western audiences then adapted that to be a lower degree of perverse content and that's basically it. So to western audiences it's a genre which to Japanese audiences it would more be a subset of sexual content not so much a genre.
Edit: But based on your interpretation you seem to be under the misunderstanding that if there's any kind of sexual content then there as to be an absence of story which is inaccurate. Remember a good show can balance all of its parts just because you aren't a fan of one part doesn't mean the series can't make use of it. Most commonly ecchi scenes are used to set up comedy or rarely but still occasionally to push forward romance between characters (ie. Rakudai Kishi no Cavalry, or to a less serious degree Highschool DxD and To Love Ru). I mean just look at Keijo this season for an immediate example of shows trying to make use of sexual content. Without that part of it simply wouldn't be the same series.
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demonskul777 said:
well, you made it a genre, because as far as i know it's not a genre.


https://myanimelist.net/anime/genre/9/Ecchi

Then I guess MAL has been lying to me all this years labeling it as a genre
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demonskul777 said:
well, you made it a genre, because as far as i know it's not a genre.


According to MAL, it is a genre. So maybe it was MAL that made it one.

But there's a shit-ton of anime with ecchi that doesn't get the ecchi label. I think it really needs to be the main focus of the show for it to get tagged.

I don't know their criteria, though...
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Lyrel said:
kawaiimirtillo said:
I think some ecchi are like porn (T_T) and I hate that but then there are the " funny " ecchi , like Nanatsu No Taizai (n_n) and then, I think it´s okay ( okay, NOT always okay xD ) but in nnt you can see that there is true love and not playing .
I think they made this genre because it is perverted but not porn and they didn´t knew where to put it xD


Yeah but that's what I don't understand why make a good anime and then throw ecchi at their face every 2 minutes now it just seems like they have no confidence in their story and characters and want to keep the money coming just because of sexualization thats just pathetic


yes, that´s really sad (T_T) (T_T)
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What made its genre? There are a lot of shows that focus on body humor, mainly busty ladies who are clumsy. People like that so they group them together. It's the same with any genre. It's not really a classic genre, but nether is SoL or Psychological.

Also, I'm pretty sure a lot of 11 year olds like that stuff.

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Ecchi has actual stories and characters, they don't need to resort to constant sex for an audience.


lol enlighten me what story and characters are you referring to

Ngnl have a decent plot/characters
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Lyrel said:
ichii_1 said:
Ecchi has actual stories and characters, they don't need to resort to constant sex for an audience.


lol enlighten me what story and characters are you referring to


World building, action, character development, deaths e.g. highschool dxd, saekano, nnt, punchline etc...
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Lyrel said:
demonskul777 said:
well, you made it a genre, because as far as i know it's not a genre.


https://myanimelist.net/anime/genre/9/Ecchi

Then I guess MAL has been lying to me all this years labeling it as a genre


Yeah, myanimelist is wrong. IDK why so many people in the west call it a genre, since it's just an anime with a lot of fanservice. If we were to be strict about it being a genre, many more anime would have to be tagged than the ones that are right now, because almost every anime has quite some fanservice. an "ecchi anime" means as much as "a sexy anime", since ecchi is just some kind of japanese slang meaning sexy or something alike iirc.

I don't see why you per se relate it to nudity either, because as far as I know ecchi is more defined by its sexual undertones, which could as well be a comedic conversation between two guys saying things ambiguously/doing ambiguous things - following its definition as a genre, that is. So obviously it can't be a genre if we don't consider things that belong to the "genre" to belong to it.

Either that or people only lacklusterly tag the genres which makes the entire purpose of a genre kind of pointless.

Also I summon @EcchiLordMamster in attack position.
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Lyrel said:
Any ideas? its basically just nudity without sexual interaction why not just still label it as hentai and keep all the 11 years old from watching it

1) Remember, "ecchi" is a label invented in the west for their own use. It is not the way japanese view this question. Japanese way uses age ratings: R-15, R-18...
R-18 is what we call "hentai". Not sure how R-15 relates to "ecchi".

2) To keep all the 11-years-old watching it. You might be a creepy 20-something hikkikomori (or alien from Mars, or anything else), but the target audience of most anime we watch are teenagers. And their parents would not allow them to watch hentai openly. And their government would not allow hentai to air on TV.

Lyrel said:
Yeah but that's what I don't understand why make a good anime and then throw ecchi at their face every 2 minutes now it just seems like they have no confidence in their story and characters and want to keep the money coming just because of sexualization thats just pathetic

3) Don't try to read into motivation of anime authors. They are not you. They are very much not you.
In fact, it's said that many of them do their jobs because that's what they like. Animators might not always work on projects they personally like, but mangaka, LN, WN and VN writers surely do.

4) On the other hand, many of them want to make their work as liked by viewers as possible. It's not enough for a show to have a nice plot. Why not add some hot girls in it as well, our target audience will surely enjoy it? And the fights gotta be cooler - realistic mundane fights just aren't good enough, gotta have giant robots armed with control of space and time!
Of course, one needs to keep a balance. If your MC killed a god before the show even begins, just what is he going to do next?
(by the way, yes, there is an ecchi anime MC who killed a god as part of his dark past)

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Ecchi has actual stories and characters, they don't need to resort to constant sex for an audience.

lol enlighten me what story and characters are you referring to

5) Lol. Pretty much all of them. Even such hentai-like ecchi anime like Shinmai Maou no Testament have plot and characters worth attention.
That said, some hentai has interesting plots too. I recommend Words Worth.
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"Ecchi" comes from the "h" which is the first letter of the romanization of the Japanese word for "pervert". It basically means "lewd". It's not exactly a genre, it's a tag to describe something in the anime, but when you see ecchi + slice of life or ecchi + action you know what you're getting. Nanatsu no Taizai the shounen has the ecchi tag because there is a fair bit of lewd stuff, but it is still an action anime and is not meant to be porn. There's no sex and even a hentai spin-off wouldn't be something that would be an economically sound decision. Amagi Brilliant Park had the ecchi tag when it first started but no longer has it since most of the comedy does not revolve around lewd stuff. It still is somewhat lewd, but it's meant to be something to fap to. The ecchi tag is also used for things like Panty and Stocking where the humour is very lewd but the characters aren't even fap-worthy.
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Some people like to be teased instead of full blown H scenes.
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Lyrel said:
Any ideas? its basically just nudity without sexual interaction why not just still label it as hentai and keep all the 11 years old from watching it


That is the purpose of it... [they] want 11 years-old to watch it and rant about it, yet [they] don't care about it.

And also, [they] want feminist to rant about it, and ignore what feminist's opinions... In short [they] are doing it to piss off someone. But [they] don't care because it makes good $$$ and some fappable material characters.
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flannan said:
Lyrel said:
Any ideas? its basically just nudity without sexual interaction why not just still label it as hentai and keep all the 11 years old from watching it

1) Remember, "ecchi" is a label invented in the west for their own use. It is not the way japanese view this question. Japanese way uses age ratings: R-15, R-18...
R-18 is what we call "hentai". Not sure how R-15 relates to "ecchi".

2) To keep all the 11-years-old watching it. You might be a creepy 20-something hikkikomori (or alien from Mars, or anything else), but the target audience of most anime we watch are teenagers. And their parents would not allow them to watch hentai openly. And their government would not allow hentai to air on TV.

Lyrel said:
Yeah but that's what I don't understand why make a good anime and then throw ecchi at their face every 2 minutes now it just seems like they have no confidence in their story and characters and want to keep the money coming just because of sexualization thats just pathetic

3) Don't try to read into motivation of anime authors. They are not you. They are very much not you.
In fact, it's said that many of them do their jobs because that's what they like. Animators might not always work on projects they personally like, but mangaka, LN, WN and VN writers surely do.

4) On the other hand, many of them want to make their work as liked by viewers as possible. It's not enough for a show to have a nice plot. Why not add some hot girls in it as well, our target audience will surely enjoy it? And the fights gotta be cooler - realistic mundane fights just aren't good enough, gotta have giant robots armed with control of space and time!
Of course, one needs to keep a balance. If your MC killed a god before the show even begins, just what is he going to do next?
(by the way, yes, there is an ecchi anime MC who killed a god as part of his dark past)

Lyrel said:

lol enlighten me what story and characters are you referring to

5) Lol. Pretty much all of them. Even such hentai-like ecchi anime like Shinmai Maou no Testament have plot and characters worth attention.
That said, some hentai has interesting plots too. I recommend Words Worth.
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Lyrel said:
Any ideas? its basically just nudity without sexual interaction why not just still label it as hentai and keep all the 11 years old from watching it

1) Remember, "ecchi" is a label invented in the west for their own use. It is not the way japanese view this question. Japanese way uses age ratings: R-15, R-18...
R-18 is what we call "hentai". Not sure how R-15 relates to "ecchi".

2) To keep all the 11-years-old watching it. You might be a creepy 20-something hikkikomori (or alien from Mars, or anything else), but the target audience of most anime we watch are teenagers. And their parents would not allow them to watch hentai openly. And their government would not allow hentai to air on TV.

Lyrel said:
Yeah but that's what I don't understand why make a good anime and then throw ecchi at their face every 2 minutes now it just seems like they have no confidence in their story and characters and want to keep the money coming just because of sexualization thats just pathetic

3) Don't try to read into motivation of anime authors. They are not you. They are very much not you.
In fact, it's said that many of them do their jobs because that's what they like. Animators might not always work on projects they personally like, but mangaka, LN, WN and VN writers surely do.

4) On the other hand, many of them want to make their work as liked by viewers as possible. It's not enough for a show to have a nice plot. Why not add some hot girls in it as well, our target audience will surely enjoy it? And the fights gotta be cooler - realistic mundane fights just aren't good enough, gotta have giant robots armed with control of space and time!
Of course, one needs to keep a balance. If your MC killed a god before the show even begins, just what is he going to do next?
(by the way, yes, there is an ecchi anime MC who killed a god as part of his dark past)

Lyrel said:

lol enlighten me what story and characters are you referring to

5) Lol. Pretty much all of them. Even such hentai-like ecchi anime like Shinmai Maou no Testament have plot and characters worth attention.
That said, some hentai has interesting plots too. I recommend Words Worth.


Tbh this will turn out to be just another ecchi thread if we keep this up I could also write you down a wall of text how none of your points make any sense to me and then we keep this up for hours never answering how ecchi became a genre of its own cuz according to wiki it is a genre in Japan so idk why you are saying its a term invented by westerners
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Lyrel said:
flannan said:

1) Remember, "ecchi" is a label invented in the west for their own use. It is not the way japanese view this question. Japanese way uses age ratings: R-15, R-18...
R-18 is what we call "hentai". Not sure how R-15 relates to "ecchi".

2) To keep all the 11-years-old watching it. You might be a creepy 20-something hikkikomori (or alien from Mars, or anything else), but the target audience of most anime we watch are teenagers. And their parents would not allow them to watch hentai openly. And their government would not allow hentai to air on TV.


3) Don't try to read into motivation of anime authors. They are not you. They are very much not you.
In fact, it's said that many of them do their jobs because that's what they like. Animators might not always work on projects they personally like, but mangaka, LN, WN and VN writers surely do.

4) On the other hand, many of them want to make their work as liked by viewers as possible. It's not enough for a show to have a nice plot. Why not add some hot girls in it as well, our target audience will surely enjoy it? And the fights gotta be cooler - realistic mundane fights just aren't good enough, gotta have giant robots armed with control of space and time!
Of course, one needs to keep a balance. If your MC killed a god before the show even begins, just what is he going to do next?
(by the way, yes, there is an ecchi anime MC who killed a god as part of his dark past)


5) Lol. Pretty much all of them. Even such hentai-like ecchi anime like Shinmai Maou no Testament have plot and characters worth attention.
That said, some hentai has interesting plots too. I recommend Words Worth.
flannan said:

1) Remember, "ecchi" is a label invented in the west for their own use. It is not the way japanese view this question. Japanese way uses age ratings: R-15, R-18...
R-18 is what we call "hentai". Not sure how R-15 relates to "ecchi".

2) To keep all the 11-years-old watching it. You might be a creepy 20-something hikkikomori (or alien from Mars, or anything else), but the target audience of most anime we watch are teenagers. And their parents would not allow them to watch hentai openly. And their government would not allow hentai to air on TV.


3) Don't try to read into motivation of anime authors. They are not you. They are very much not you.
In fact, it's said that many of them do their jobs because that's what they like. Animators might not always work on projects they personally like, but mangaka, LN, WN and VN writers surely do.

4) On the other hand, many of them want to make their work as liked by viewers as possible. It's not enough for a show to have a nice plot. Why not add some hot girls in it as well, our target audience will surely enjoy it? And the fights gotta be cooler - realistic mundane fights just aren't good enough, gotta have giant robots armed with control of space and time!
Of course, one needs to keep a balance. If your MC killed a god before the show even begins, just what is he going to do next?
(by the way, yes, there is an ecchi anime MC who killed a god as part of his dark past)


5) Lol. Pretty much all of them. Even such hentai-like ecchi anime like Shinmai Maou no Testament have plot and characters worth attention.
That said, some hentai has interesting plots too. I recommend Words Worth.


Tbh this will turn out to be just another ecchi thread if we keep this up I could also write you down a wall of text how none of your points make any sense to me and then we keep this up for hours never answering how ecchi became a genre of its own cuz according to wiki it is a genre in Japan so idk why you are saying its a term invented by westerners

Which Wiki?
Here's what Wikipedia says:
The word ecchi has been adopted by fans of Japanese media to describe works with sexual overtones. In Japanese, the word ecchi is often used to describe a person's conduct, but in fandom, it has come to be used to refer to softcore or playful sexuality, as distinct from the word hentai, which connotes perversion or fetishism.[2] Works described as ecchi do not show sexual intercourse or genitalia, but sexual themes are referenced. Ecchi themes are a type of fan service, and can be found in most comedy shōnen and seinen manga and harem anime.[3][4]
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Ecchi has actual stories and characters, they don't need to resort to constant sex for an audience.


lol enlighten me what story and characters are you referring to


Monogatari series.

Are we done OP?

/thread

Also ecchi is a genre as yuri or yaoi can so there is that.
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Well, let's say even though i've fapped recently and have no intention/desire of doing it again that day, i still find what i'm sexually attracted to is beautiful. So i like to still look at such things and ecchi fills that role. Yes you could say "just go watch porn and not fap to it" but ecchi is more plot focused and i like that when i'm not fapping.

Anything you find beautiful in a nonsexy way you always find beautiful, so why do people think lust is required to find sexy things beautiful?
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Probably because it's... well, practical

Even if it's not considered a genre in Japan, what we in the west classify as "ecchi" is pretty distinctive. So I'd actually have to say it's Japan who're the weird ones for not having it as a genre tbh. Or at least I don't see why you wouldn't
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lol enlighten me what story and characters are you referring to


Monogatari series.

Are we done OP?

/thread

Also ecchi is a genre as yuri or yaoi can so there is that.


No we are just getting started :/ also from all the examples you could have taken you take the one that relied the most on fanservice even they didn't had the confidence to rely on their story and characters and their story wasn't even bad but now nobody cares cuz waifus
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Tbh this will turn out to be just another ecchi thread if we keep this up I could also write you down a wall of text how none of your points make any sense to me and then we keep this up for hours never answering how ecchi became a genre of its own cuz according to wiki it is a genre in Japan so idk why you are saying its a term invented by westerners

Which Wiki?
Here's what Wikipedia says:
The word ecchi has been adopted by fans of Japanese media to describe works with sexual overtones. In Japanese, the word ecchi is often used to describe a person's conduct, but in fandom, it has come to be used to refer to softcore or playful sexuality, as distinct from the word hentai, which connotes perversion or fetishism.[2] Works described as ecchi do not show sexual intercourse or genitalia, but sexual themes are referenced. Ecchi themes are a type of fan service, and can be found in most comedy shōnen and seinen manga and harem anime.[3][4]


Tbh I didn't even look at the english wiki the one from my language said something else idk why the informations differ so much but then again we could search through a lot websites and find different meanings everywhere but thats not really what this is about there are still no answer why ecchi is a thing and doesn't get higher age restrictions
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Lyrel said:

also from all the examples you could have taken you take the one that relied the most on fanservice even they didn't had the confidence to rely on their story and characters and their story wasn't even bad but now nobody cares cuz waifus


Well unfortunately for you that anime rely on story and characters so I call checkmate.

Of course I will not deny the waifu part but that was my argument starting point so you just proved me.



Any counter arguments?

Also since this is a bait I should also state this:

"This is a bait."
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Lyrel said:
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Monogatari series.

Are we done OP?

/thread

Also ecchi is a genre as yuri or yaoi can so there is that.


No we are just getting started :/ also from all the examples you could have taken you take the one that relied the most on fanservice even they didn't had the confidence to rely on their story and characters and their story wasn't even bad but now nobody cares cuz waifus


Mhhh... Gatari relies on fanservice? To what extend?
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Lyrel said:
Tbh this will turn out to be just another ecchi thread if we keep this up I could also write you down a wall of text how none of your points make any sense to me and then we keep this up for hours never answering how ecchi became a genre of its own cuz according to wiki it is a genre in Japan so idk why you are saying its a term invented by westerners

Lyrel said:
Tbh I didn't even look at the english wiki the one from my language said something else idk why the informations differ so much but then again we could search through a lot websites and find different meanings everywhere but thats not really what this is about there are still no answer why ecchi is a thing and doesn't get higher age restrictions

Okay, have a personal answer to your question:
BECAUSE CENSORSHIP!
Every perverted thing in Japan is somehow the fault of censorship. Lolicon. Tentacles. Ecchi.
Ecchi is specifically made in a way that would not get it higher age restrictions under what passes for laws and traditions in Japan. It specifically abuses the intent of the law while following its letter.
Because people's sexuality is the strongest motivational force known to humanity.
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No we are just getting started :/ also from all the examples you could have taken you take the one that relied the most on fanservice even they didn't had the confidence to rely on their story and characters and their story wasn't even bad but now nobody cares cuz waifus


Mhhh... Gatari relies on fanservice? To what extend?


http://pa1.narvii.com/5710/101dc4c9e2fcbbdcbbd881d30f349d4d9fd55a52_hq.gif

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-mxNBfBH1aUI/TxCd3mVIMFI/AAAAAAAABkY/E1iCgV28MZI/s1600/Nisemonogatari%2B-%2B01%2BHachikuji%2Becchi.png

Aside from that a lot of people won't remember this anime for its story now it was never its selling point
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Of course, one needs to keep a balance. If your MC killed a god before the show even begins, just what is he going to do next?
(by the way, yes, there is an ecchi anime MC who killed a god as part of his dark past)
don't be such a tease flannan senpai
i hovered that in hopes you had linked that ecchi with an [url] tag
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Because some people actually want straight up penetration and sexual interaction. Others just like teasing themselves with fanservice.
Oct 29, 2016 2:33 PM

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Lyrel said:
_Ako_ said:


Mhhh... Gatari relies on fanservice? To what extend?


http://pa1.narvii.com/5710/101dc4c9e2fcbbdcbbd881d30f349d4d9fd55a52_hq.gif

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-mxNBfBH1aUI/TxCd3mVIMFI/AAAAAAAABkY/E1iCgV28MZI/s1600/Nisemonogatari%2B-%2B01%2BHachikuji%2Becchi.png

Aside from that a lot of people won't remember this anime for its story now it was never its selling point


What a mild fanservice...

Why u no post Nadeko? Why u no add Shinobu?
Oct 29, 2016 2:35 PM

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Lyrel said:

also from all the examples you could have taken you take the one that relied the most on fanservice even they didn't had the confidence to rely on their story and characters and their story wasn't even bad but now nobody cares cuz waifus


Well unfortunately for you that anime rely on story and characters so I call checkmate.

Of course I will not deny the waifu part but that was my argument starting point so you just proved me.



Any counter arguments?

Also since this is a bait I should also state this:

"This is a bait."


Nah not really cuz its your own opinion but it doesn't change mine also the fact that the sexualized merchandise is selling more than the dvds itself so I don't know why you still think anybody cares about the story.

Is it really bait tho cuz I only wanted to know how ecchi was created or who thought it was good idea to even making it a thing in the first place its not like I wanted to shit on ecchi (I'm doing it now cuz I was forced into it lol) but other than that we could had a friendly discussion about it but yall are too defence about it :/
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the population makes it into a genre
Sonic X is basically an isekai
Oct 29, 2016 2:38 PM

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_Ako_ said:
Lyrel said:


http://pa1.narvii.com/5710/101dc4c9e2fcbbdcbbd881d30f349d4d9fd55a52_hq.gif

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-mxNBfBH1aUI/TxCd3mVIMFI/AAAAAAAABkY/E1iCgV28MZI/s1600/Nisemonogatari%2B-%2B01%2BHachikuji%2Becchi.png

Aside from that a lot of people won't remember this anime for its story now it was never its selling point


What a mild fanservice...

Why u no post Nadeko? Why u no add Shinobu?


Cuz they are examples and I wanted to keep it short
Oct 29, 2016 2:52 PM

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@Lyrel

I didn't even summon PlotMamster.So I am not defensive about it.I even don't like ecchi that much if it used as a main point in anime.

I just answered your question.Also I and the %90 of the fanbase watch it for story as main focus.Maybe you are in the wrong side.Try to focus on story next time.

Oh Do you want to know how I calculated that percentage?I used the same source as you used.

I wanted to shit on ecchi
Lyrel said:
I wanted to shit on ecchi


Click

_Ako_ said:
Lyrel said:


http://pa1.narvii.com/5710/101dc4c9e2fcbbdcbbd881d30f349d4d9fd55a52_hq.gif

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-mxNBfBH1aUI/TxCd3mVIMFI/AAAAAAAABkY/E1iCgV28MZI/s1600/Nisemonogatari%2B-%2B01%2BHachikuji%2Becchi.png

Aside from that a lot of people won't remember this anime for its story now it was never its selling point


What a mild fanservice...

Why u no post Nadeko? Why u no add Shinobu?


Let's see...

Oct 29, 2016 3:08 PM

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@Lyrel

I didn't even summon PlotMamster.So I am not defensive about it.I even don't like ecchi that much if it used as a main point in anime.

I just answered your question.Also I and the %90 of the fanbase watch it for story as main focus.Maybe you are in the wrong side.Try to focus on story next time.

Oh Do you want to know how I calculated that percentage?I used the same source as you used.

I wanted to shit on ecchi
Lyrel said:
I wanted to shit on ecchi


Click

_Ako_ said:


What a mild fanservice...

Why u no post Nadeko? Why u no add Shinobu?


Let's see...



I'm not sure if I know what you mean but ya know even after 45 posts nobody has answered my question instead we fight over if ecchi makes a anime bad (which it does but thats a story for another day) rather than just telling me if anybody out there actually knows or has a solid suspicion why ecchi was even invented in the first place and why its not just a sub genre of hentai
Oct 29, 2016 3:13 PM

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Ikr...You just wanted to "shit on ecchi"

O well.I will give a serious answer:

Click.

Oct 29, 2016 3:23 PM

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@Lyrel

Ikr...You just wanted to "shit on ecchi"

O well.I will give a serious answer:

Click.



Kinda yeah kinda no I would have restrain myself but some people didn't wanted to have it any other way so I told them, not my fault :/ in any case this thread is stuck why is it so hard making a nice discussion on this website :|
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It's the difference between softcore nudity and hardcore fucking.
Oct 29, 2016 5:48 PM

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Lyrel said:
Any ideas? its basically just nudity without sexual interaction why not just still label it as hentai and keep all the 11 years old from watching it


why would you keep 11 year olds from watching it? they are the ones who are in need for sexual education. And they ARE the biggest hentai watching audience anyway. You sound as if like you didn't browse porn when you were 11...

Anyway, I do agree with you, ecchi should be transformed into old school uncensored hentai, because it pisses me off greatly when I'm allowed to see boobs but not cats. It's just plain annoying..If you're going nudity route then please go until the end. Manga drawers and anime creators should realize it finally ffs...
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