| So I watched Kemonozume, for anyone who has seen it, it has mature content like sex, violence, and mature themes. While I didn't love it, it did keep my attention mainly because it was vastly different than a lot of anime I've seen. I didn't know what to come up with a topic question, but I wonder if more mature/restricted content can make anime more appealing to a wider audience and if it would be better than the high school setting? |
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| Don't we have enough of those already? But no apparently anime is still for kids. Ignorant people are ignorant. There's nothing you can actually do about it.. |
| Detroit Metal City even references drugs at one point, which is quite rare in anime. It's a great show. Even shounen anime like Hunter x Hunter are considered to have that "mature" feel while there are many seinen anime like K-On! and A-Channel that lack it. I personally find slice of life like Bartender and Usagi Drop to be the most mature. |
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| anime is for kids. just look at the current season |
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| Nope, ignorance will always be a thing. |
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| HA! it's pointless to do that. people would still think anime is for kids. cause i've already tried it and it's useless. and i don't give a fuck with it anymore. |
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KuuhakuDesu said: There are anime that have this "mature/restricted content" thing the "mature people" looks for, y'know. So, there's already anime for "mature people" to watch and not feel they're teenagers. And no, it wouldn't be better, because it would be like sacrificing a specific public in order to attract a different one.
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EsperMay 7, 2016 9:41 AM
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| I see lots of people saying that anime is always pornographic and only pedophiles and other filth of society like any of it, but I rarely see people saying that anime is for kids. I think most of the people who say that anime is for kids would probably think that all forms of animation are for kids. |
GesuYarou said: Don't we have enough of those already? But no apparently anime is still for kids. Ignorant people are ignorant. There's nothing you can actually do about it.. This. People will always associate anime with Naruto, and I for one am grateful for it. Keeping anime away from the mainstream folks means keeping it away from being censored to hell and back. |
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-Senpai- said: Nope, ignorance will always be a thing. This, so much this! I can't count the amount of people who say this to me |
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| "Anime is for kids" means "the anime shown on the most known TV channels in the US is for kids". There are even plenty of mature dubbed anime, but if they're not shown on cartoon network or whatever then Americans tend to be ignorant of their existence. If Usagi Drop or Berserk were shown on cartoon network people would still consider them to be "for kids" anyway simply because they have already accepted in their mind that all anime is for kids. You can't break someone's mentality just by producing something that negates it. |
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| I kinda take issue with the premise of the question: just because something is aimed at kids doesn't mean it is disbarred from dealing with serious or complex issues, nor that mature/restricted content does or even does it better. Or to put it another way; trying to say something is not for kids is just as bad as saying it that is (from a critical stand point). The animated version of Animal Farm or Watership Down (or Animaniacs or, inversely, South Park) kinda illustrates this perfectly. Basically anyone who dismisses anything for such a shallow reason as "its for kids" it kinda outing themselves as an idiot (sorry for disparaging language) =( Now anime, as a media, is relatively young (technologically/industrially its just shy a century, in terms of its current model it would be what, 30 years old?) and therefore it is dealing with similar economic, social, and cultural issues as all media have when developing (just consider the history of print media or, more recently, film and television). The issue therefore is not whether or not anime is suitable for a particular audience, but rather if it can seriously and effectively dialogue with our concerns, ambition, and anxieties or, more generally, complex ideas and arguments. And it kinda has already been proven that it does with several Japanese government officials and scholars even basically saying "manga and anime constitutes our biggest cultural export..." (paraphrased). Trying to shift the argument onto who watches anime by saying "its for kids" or "it contains mature content" as means of valuing or devaluing anime kinda plays into the hands of people who want to be derogatory or elitist about the media. |
| No, it'll just reinforce the already-existing "All anime is Pokémon and porn" stereotype, because concepts like "nuance" and "middle ground" are lost on ignorant normals. |
| If they had a brain capable of logical thinking, yeah. |
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Kruszer said: If they had a brain capable of logical thinking, yeah. Perhaps they just think that anime isn't for them. People can choose not to like anime, and their reasons for choosing so can be whatever they want. There's no need to criticise them like that. |
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Nigami_Shin said: anime is for kids. just look at the current season Teenagers are the main demographic it seems, there are a few shows for young adults but not nearly enough for people who are 30+. |
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| There are anime made for kids in mind like anime that air on Sunday mornings. However mature/restricted content can give people bad ideas of anime as well. I remember people in the 90's thought anime was just mindless violent and gross stuff that was seen in Akira and MD Geist. That's why parents didn't want some video stores to carry stuff like Fist of the North Star, MD Geist, Ninja Scroll, Wicked City and Urotsukidoji. |
CherryLover said: Kruszer said: If they had a brain capable of logical thinking, yeah. Perhaps they just think that anime isn't for them. People can choose not to like anime, and their reasons for choosing so can be whatever they want. There's no need to criticise them like that. I'm not. I'm simply saying if you put them in room for a sociology experiment, showed them an episode that was obviously for adults, and asked them a yes or no question like "Do you think this is for kids", that it wouldn't take much thought to answer in the negative. |
KruszerMay 7, 2016 12:40 PM
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| I don't think it's going to stop the prejudices that people have. |
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| There are a lot of animes already out that are (should only be) aimed at a more mature audience. But people who are ignorant/new to anime don't know this and will tend to assume that anime in general is for children because of it being animated.... which is kinda sad. >_< |
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| Ever heard of hentai? Anyway, there are tons of mature anime and manga . Kaiji,Monster,Pluto , Berserk etc come to mind in an instant |
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| who gives 1/2 a shit if non anime fans think that anime is for kids? how many "will i be/i don't like being judged" threads are we gonna have a week? |
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targa said: Ever heard of hentai? Anyway, there are tons of mature anime and manga . Kaiji,Monster,Pluto , Berserk etc come to mind in an instant Maybe there's hentai for kids or something Mamster-P said: who gives 1/2 a shit if non anime fans think that anime is for kids? how many "will i be/i don't like being judged" threads are we gonna have a week? This, I think we have 4 to 5 per week. |
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| I like outside high school plots, but i also like inside. As i've said before, anyone who sais it's for kids doesn't watch it and therefore won't differentiate between anime and hentai. So just show them some hentai to change their mind. |
blueballs said: Teenagers are the main demographic it seems, there are a few shows for young adults but not nearly enough for people who are 30+. plasma38 said: Teenagers may be the main demographic group depicted in anime, but they're not the ones buying those $80/2-3-episode Blu-Rays in Japan; 18-35+ otaku are. Besides, if we followed the idea of "Anime that depicts Group X is intended for Group X," we'd have to conclude that Strawberry Marshmallow is for elementary school girls (ditto with similar CGDCT shows and other age groups), standard harems are for women since they mostly show female characters, and reverse harems are for men for the same reasons.Anime is for kids, if you include teenagers as kids. Else 97% of the protags would not be high schoolers or lower. |
| I'm a grown man and even I don't have the stomach to watch: http://myanimelist.net/anime/2216/Shigurui There's really nothing wrong with anime being for kids. One of my favorites is aimed at little girls and it's been one of the most valuable experiences I've had with the medium. The people who are so eager to criticize a lack of maturity are often the young ones who are desperately striving for it. |
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| No, because those people are mostly people who have never watched any kind of anime themselves but Pokémon |
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| "No, because those people are mostly people who have never watched any kind of anime themselves" fixed |
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j0x said: K-On! has also been rebroadcast in the daytime so that young girls can watch it on TV. It's meant for young men but little girls can also enjoy it. Precure is targeted at 4-12 year old girls and 16-35 year old males and the merchandise for it can be very disturbing.Zalis said: Teenagers may be the main demographic group depicted in anime, but they're not the ones buying those $80/2-3-episode Blu-Rays in Japan; 18-35+ otaku are. Besides, if we followed the idea of "Anime that depicts Group X is intended for Group X," we'd have to conclude that Strawberry Marshmallow is for elementary school girls (ditto with similar CGDCT shows and other age groups), standard harems are for women since they mostly show female characters, and reverse harems are for men for the same reasons. finally someone said it too teenagers are not the target consumers of anime but young adults that have jobs and are otaku anime shows high school settings and teenage characters are misleading, K-ON for example is a seinen show despite of being like a show meant for children and teenagers |
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| No. It is pointless to even bother. Just leave them in their ignorance. |
| Mainstream anime like snk, death note and even cowboy bebop (even though I didn't really like it) has change the opinion of a lot of people that thought anime is for kids and perverts. Obviously not everyone will give anime a chance, but the main reason why people think anime is for kids is because it's "animated" when they look at anime they think of it like western cartoons, and even some western cartoon are targated to a older audience. zombie_pegasus said: Detroit Metal City even references drugs at one point, which is quite rare in anime. It's a great show. Even shounen anime like Hunter x Hunter are considered to have that "mature" feel while there are many seinen anime like K-On! and A-Channel that lack it. I personally find slice of life like Bartender and Usagi Drop to be the most mature. Of all the shounen anime out there you choose hxh??? lol you will literally have to watch 40+ episodes before you actually see any dark mature content in it, before that it was extremely kid friendly, anyone that looks at hxh would would quickly assume its for kids. |
keragammingMay 7, 2016 11:11 PM
keragamming said: People say it's similar to battle seinen, I haven't actually seen it. Fullmetal Alchemist is more mature for the philosophy and psychology rather than "R for violence and profanity" so it wouldn't exactly persuade people right away either. The only other battle shounen I've seen is Nanatsu no Taizai which isn't really all that mature.zombie_pegasus said: Detroit Metal City even references drugs at one point, which is quite rare in anime. It's a great show. Even shounen anime like Hunter x Hunter are considered to have that "mature" feel while there are many seinen anime like K-On! and A-Channel that lack it. I personally find slice of life like Bartender and Usagi Drop to be the most mature. Of all the shounen anime out there u choose hxh, lol you will literally have to watch 40+ episodes before you actually see some dark mature content in it, anyone that looks at hxh would would quickly assume its for kids |
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| As much as they trigger me, I just ignore it. I tried showing them Tokyo Ghoul and Corpse Party before, but all I got was 'Well the rest of anime is for kids." So I just said baka and walked off.. |
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zombie_pegasus said: keragamming said: People say it's similar to battle seinen, I haven't actually seen it. Fullmetal Alchemist is more mature for the philosophy and psychology rather than "R for violence and profanity" so it wouldn't exactly persuade people right away either. The only other battle shounen I've seen is Nanatsu no Taizai which isn't really all that mature.Of all the shounen anime out there u choose hxh, lol you will literally have to watch 40+ episodes before you actually see some dark mature content in it, anyone that looks at hxh would would quickly assume its for kids LmaoXD I know its not your fault since you don't watch that much battle shounen, but don't listen to persons that says hxh is a seinen series. Its just a meme. *cough cough* death note? Snk? Cowboy bebop? Gangsta? Also why are you limiting your options to only battle shounen? Imo those are one of the worst option you should use when trying to convince someone anime is not only for kids. Because dbz for people that doesn't even watch anime knows or believe it is for kids, therefore those battle shounen that follow dbz formula will have the same type of opinion. |
keragammingMay 7, 2016 11:34 PM
keragamming said: You could show them real battle seinen like Berserk or Tokyo Ghoul which obviously are not for kids, although kids may still enjoy them. Usagi Drop, Bartender, Shirobako, and Wolf Children are some mature anime that could open some people's minds if they were willing enough.zombie_pegasus said: People say it's similar to battle seinen, I haven't actually seen it. Fullmetal Alchemist is more mature for the philosophy and psychology rather than "R for violence and profanity" so it wouldn't exactly persuade people right away either. The only other battle shounen I've seen is Nanatsu no Taizai which isn't really all that mature. LmaoXD I know its not your fault since you don't watch that much battle shounen, but don't listen to persons that says hxh is a seinen series. Its just a meme. *cough cough* death note? Snk? Cowboy bebop? Gangsta? Also why are you limiting your options to only battle shounen? Imo those are one of the worst option you should use when trying to convince someone anime is not only for kids. Because dbz for people that doesn't even watch anime knows or believe it is for kids, therefore those battle shounen thst follow dbz formula will have the same type of opinion. |
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| Sex and violence doesn't automatically make people mature. Is a kid mature because he draws penises in his notebook? The most mature anime I've seen are actually aimed at children - Digimon Tamers, Dennou Coil. Maturity is how you tell the story, how you treat your ideas. The understanding and psychology in DT is more mature than any sex scene. |
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| It won't change the perception because most people are fundamentally judgmental morons. Let's say you point out that there are loads of sex and violence and it isn't aimed at kids. Let's say you show them this. Then they'll just ask, 'and you like this stuff...?' trying to make you out as a weirdo. You will not win against ignorant fucks, why do you care to begin with? |
| Why do you even care if someone thinks it's for kids ? Regardless, to stay on topic. Yes, most of anime is made for a younger audience but that doesn't mean all of it is. After all, Anime is a medium and not a genre contrary to popular belief. |
| If that mature/restricted content isn't handled maturely (Akame ga kill, Tokio ghoul, SAO, Corpse Party) then the show is just pretending to be mature. That might change the idea of "Anime is for kids" to "Anime is for inmature teenagers", regardless of the demographic who likes it. |
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zombie_pegasus said: Detroit Metal City even references drugs at one point, which is quite rare in anime. It's a great show. GO TO DMC! Nothing will stop people making ignorant unsubstantiated claims. Even if you prove them wrong, people like to stick to their misguided notions and beliefs. You could show them a violent show, with the idea being "stuff with this level of violence wouldn't be shown to kids" but they'll make it out to be too violent and think it reflects badly on you because you like it. You could show them something with sexual content with the idea being "an anime with sex isn't going to be for kids" but they'll make you out to be some sort of deviant for liking it. Even when you disprove their ignorance, they'll turn it around and still make it seem like you're in the wrong for it. |
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