| And I mean when the entire anime is CGI, not just parts. Like Ajin and Sidonia no Kishi. I kinda just hate it because the people look horrible. I hate it more than crappy still-frames and reused frames and all that =/ Also, anyone know a CGI anime that actually looks good? I'm a bit curious and am basing this opinion on what I've seen from Ajin and Sidonia. So actually, I thought Arpeggio was good. I didn't even remember that it was CGI, because it didn't really have all of the negative aspects that tip me off (crappy character design, inhumanly fluid and "laggy" movements, kinda like"smooth scrolling" or mouse pointer "accuracy enhancement," etc) Yeah, although it lacked plot, it still looked good, so CGI can be done "correctly" by Japanimation studios. |
MortalMelancholyApr 21, 2016 9:01 PM
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| I avoid it like the plague If it's cheap then good for companies for using it but not something I personally will support ever. |
MortalMelancholy said: And I mean when the entire anime is CGI, not just parts. Like Ajin and Sidonia no Kishi. I kinda just hate it because the people look horrible. I hate it more than crappy still-frames and reused frames and all that =/ Also, anyone know a CGI anime that actually looks good? I'm a bit curious and am basing this opinion on what I've seen from Ajin and Sidonia. Full CGI still isn't good yet. Japanese animators don't really know much about stylizing it. Game developers like Arc Systems works have gotten better at it, and there are a lot of people still working on it to make it better though. Regarding CG in anime. The best anime with CG characters is Etotama. The CG animators are Korean though. Japan still doesn't fully understand stylistic 3D. If you don't mind CG movies. You should watch Expelled from Paradise. It actually does handle the CG pretty alright. Toei animation has been trying to change after all their 2D animators left (I mean look at DBZ: Super) They made this though, and they're the ones behind Captain Harlock if I recall. Overall though, the only anime that I can say I've watched where the CG hasn't been too jarring has been Either way, CG has only recently been accepted by most people as something that improves the experience recently. Back in the day of early To Aru Majutsu no Index, when animators used CG to cut costs people raged, even though if you rewatch it most people won't notice it. Nowadays the attitude has changed and animators who specialize in 3D have gotten more opportunities to get better. It's never really bad anymore. Active Raid's little computer droid thing looked fine to me. If an entire anime was made with characters that looked like that I'd be good. |
TitanAnteusApr 19, 2016 6:52 PM
| I don't mind it. I actually liked the CGI in Sidonia because it enhanced the deep space atmosphere. I mean, look at this: Sidonia wouldn't be as captivating and memorable to me if it weren't for the CGI. Kingdom, however, would have been better off without CGI. MortalMelancholy said: Also, anyone know a CGI anime that actually looks good? I'm a bit curious and am basing this opinion on what I've seen from Ajin and Sidonia. Captain Harlock and Final Fantasy: Advent Children have stunning CGI. |
| It'll looks better overtime. People need to stop dismissing it as a whole tho. CG itself isn't bad, it's just that animators don't know how to use it properly. |
| I personally don't like it. Though if they had a special take on the style I may try it out. |
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| CG is the new digital animation, I believe eventually CG will replace traditional drawn animation, similar to hand drawn to digital drawn. |
| Don't mind CG at all tbh. Then again I haven't seen a lot of CGI movies/series. |
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NateMKII said: CG is the new digital animation, I believe eventually CG will replace traditional drawn animation, similar to hand drawn to digital drawn. I think that's a little farfetched. Japan's love of 2D is a little stronger then that, but 2D is also hard and time-consuming. Like... drawing Giant Robots in 2D is not financially viable anymore. Gundam Reconquista took WAY too much money. Cross Ange brought them back bigger returns than Reconquista. I feel like, mundane stuff like super unimportant background characters and large moving complex objects will become 3D more often than not but characters will still stay 2D. 2D is much more expressive than 3D after all. For instance showing a guy getting cut is harder to do in 3D than in 2D. Losing an arm or being blown away... stuff like getting contorted and moved around is hard to do in 3D. They each have their own benefits and bring something to the table. Not to mention... 2D is more expressive than 3D. Honestly, shows like Macross Delta and Parasyte the maxim show where I think the future of anime is going. That and Chain Chronicle's anime will give us insight on how to use 3D and 2D in a more dynamic way. |
MortalMelancholy said: ajin and sidonia are both made by polygon picturesAnd I mean when the entire anime is CGI, not just parts. Like Ajin and Sidonia no Kishi. I kinda just hate it because the people look horrible. I hate it more than crappy still-frames and reused frames and all that =/ Also, anyone know a CGI anime that actually looks good? I'm a bit curious and am basing this opinion on what I've seen from Ajin and Sidonia. but everyone knows that sanzigen is the best 3d studio (arpeggio of the blue steel and bubuki buranki) |
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| Personally, CGI does not tickle my fancy but not because I do not enjoy it, but it takes away the opportunity for illustrators' to express themselves. CG still takes some talent of course, from documentaries I have seen, hard work is put into those chracter models and panoramic scenes. But with CG's, it is just basically when a model(s) is created and the animators take that model and manipulate it to however they want instead of manually taking that scene again and drawing it all over. However, when I watch a non CG anime, I could feel how much strenuous work the illustrators feel through the art depicted in said anime. Each scene can be told apart from precious ones with varying emotions and depth. CGs contain that aswell no doubt about it, but they just feel like robots to me. I just can seem to fathom their emotions and understand CG models. But CGs do not ruin the anime for me, no way. Can't justify a series just for their looks. However...if we're talking about the original one punch man manga by ONE....just kidding haha. |
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romagia said: MortalMelancholy said: ajin and sidonia are both made by polygon picturesAnd I mean when the entire anime is CGI, not just parts. Like Ajin and Sidonia no Kishi. I kinda just hate it because the people look horrible. I hate it more than crappy still-frames and reused frames and all that =/ Also, anyone know a CGI anime that actually looks good? I'm a bit curious and am basing this opinion on what I've seen from Ajin and Sidonia. but everyone knows that sanzigen is the best 3d studio (arpeggio of the blue steel and bubuki buranki) Arpeggio was CGI? Didn't even know that. And I did really like the visuals in that one. Also, Polygon Pictures... They take their name too literally =/ |
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| Arpeggio of blue steel has naval battles, so ofc CGI would fit it very well, sanzigen did a good job in the adaptation |
| I'm cool with them. Honestly, I think exaggerate how bad they're supposed to look. MortalMelancholy said: Also, anyone know a CGI anime that actually looks good? I'm a bit curious and am basing this opinion on what I've seen from Ajin and Sidonia.  |
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| Its depend of the anime atmosphere for me. Sidonia no Kishi kinda ok, it bring out the space sci-fi atmosphere. But I hate CG in Berserk movies. It was horrible. Seriously HORRIBLE. It does not suit the atmosphere at all. |
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| Most of the time CGI comes off as jarring to look at. Though, there are a few shows that seems to be an exception to that in recent seasons. |
| Sometimes it's ok (beserk) sometimes it's bad (god eater and 35th platoon whatever) and sometimes its magical and perfect (ajin<3) |
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| I don't mind it because it's something different however I don't like the frame rate on Ajin (I heard it got better after the first episodes but I have only seen the first episode so far because I've been busy), I guess it was still trying to look 2D animated but when it comes to that I would say rather be animated like CGI or just be 2D. There are some CGI animes that actuelly look really good though. Appleseed Alpha Final Fantasy VII Advent Children |
| I'd rather not watch it. I mean I can stand it and get used to it if it's limited to like a couple of series, but I really hope it never becomes a mainstream thing and takes over hand-drawn animation, unless CGI can actually look like hand-drawn animation. |
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| Full? Nah. That's the reason I won't get into RWBY even though I'm a RT fan. |
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| Not a fan of CGI, but i'm not going to avoid an anime just because of it's CGI. When it's not overused, but only on cartain parts, i kinda like it. |
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| I really don't like CGI... especially if the series is only CGI. Most of the time such series look like crap, and that takes a lot away from the show. |
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| cgi anime? ignore...no good, no look good either... |
| Don't hate CGI that much hey!! it just consume more time and money, which anime studios don't have. |
MortalMelancholy said: And I mean when the entire anime is CGI, not just parts. Like Ajin and Sidonia no Kishi. I kinda just hate it because the people look horrible. I hate it more than crappy still-frames and reused frames and all that =/ Also, anyone know a CGI anime that actually looks good? I'm a bit curious and am basing this opinion on what I've seen from Ajin and Sidonia. Aoki Hagane no Arpeggio has a great CGI imo. same with Bubuki Buranki, but many people said the story was bad. well,to me, it was pretty good tho.... well, don't hate it too much, they use is because of some issue, for example; budget. it can't be helped. to decided whether the CGI looks good or not, it depends on how they make it. |
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Alcoholic-san said: it's good, my favorite CGI anime is Toy Story Lol you dandy alcoholic troll, go get drunk. |
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| if it looks as good as final fantasy films, yes |
MortalMelancholy said: And I mean when the entire anime is CGI, not just parts. Like Ajin and Sidonia no Kishi. I kinda just hate it because the people look horrible. I hate it more than crappy still-frames and reused frames and all that =/ Also, anyone know a CGI anime that actually looks good? I'm a bit curious and am basing this opinion on what I've seen from Ajin and Sidonia. It's more difficult to integrate traditional hand-drawn animation and 3DCG than making a multimillion dollar photorealistic CGI. You don't want 2D anime to look like Final Fantasy right? This is the best by far Japan ever produced, and it does not look like generic Korean MMORPG CG like Etotama, they're literally trying to replicate 2D hand-drawn animation. The CG director have an experience in both traditional hand-drawn animation, especially on sakuga animation, and CG animation, that's why the outcome is unique, it's the first project that succesfully integrate anime sakuga in 3DCG animation. They made it possible, they won an award because of that, and made a buzz on CG community. Be warned though the movie have clanky parts like those in other CG anime, and those are not "bad animation", they lowered the frame rate on purpose lol, maybe a TV or monitor that have a frame rate control will solve the problem. They learned their lesson here, they realized lowering the frame rate will not make it look like 2D. |
| Can be good, but usually they are fucked up if the show tries to be full CGI or something close to that. Honestly, I hope we won't see a day where all anime are full CGI, even if they get better at it. |
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| It doesn't look nearly as good but I will still watch the show. |
| The CGI made Sidonia a lot more epic, imo. And at first I was dissapointed to that Ajin was CGI, but after 3 episodes you get used to it anyways. I'm not saying that CGi is the best thing ever. but with some series it might be better than the ''normal'' thing. |
| wtf people Photorealistic CGI and cel shaded CG are two different CG mediums, why the f you want anime to look like Finding Nemo or Final Fantasy. Look at Saint Seiya movie not looking 2D at all. stop these threads already |
loloyApr 21, 2016 9:50 AM
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| Full on CGI don't tend to look too bad, from what I've seen. It'll only get better as time goes on and it becomes cheaper for better CGI to be used. In the future it won't be just to cut costs but because it's affordable to actually do a decent job with it and make it look nice. I didn't think Ajin's CGI was too bad. The only real issue with it was the poor frame rate, but aside from that it was pretty decent. Bubuki / Buranki wasn't half bad either. |
 It's an entirely different kind of flying, altogether! It's an entirely different kind of flying. |
| It was mentioned already, but FFVI: Advent Children, that movie spoiled me and I thought Transformers was underwhelming. Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within is also nice, though a little dated. |
| CGI sucks ass. It pretty much looks awful when it is used, and is only used to cut costs. |
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| i'm not a fan but i think i could tolerate it |
| Just another form of animation, and animation really isn't all that important if the story and characters are good. |
| "The name's Gambit. Remember it." -Gambit "X-Men '97"  |
Milk_is_Special said: CGI sucks ass. It pretty much looks awful when it is used, and is only used to cut costs. Did you like... scroll all the way to the bottom without reading anything on the page just to say that? Like.. no one can convince you that you're wrong? |
TitanAnteus said: I didn't bother reading it, I never do.Milk_is_Special said: CGI sucks ass. It pretty much looks awful when it is used, and is only used to cut costs. Did you like... scroll all the way to the bottom without reading anything on the page just to say that? Like.. no one can convince you that you're wrong? |
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Milk_is_Special said: TitanAnteus said: I didn't bother reading it, I never do.Did you like... scroll all the way to the bottom without reading anything on the page just to say that? Like.. no one can convince you that you're wrong? Hahaha. That's so bad. You're not even trying to be a part of the discussion. I can understand if it's more than one page but at least listen to other people's opinions. You might surprise yourself. |
TitanAnteus said: So me stating my opinion on the subject, is equal to not even trying to be a part of the discussion, ok mate, what ever floats your boat.Milk_is_Special said: I didn't bother reading it, I never do. Hahaha. That's so bad. You're not even trying to be a part of the discussion. I can understand if it's more than one page but at least listen to other people's opinions. You might surprise yourself. |
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