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Dec 12, 2015 10:01 PM

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bobzanny said:
The Karen-Shuu ship set sail and sunk within 8 pages....only Ishida.

Great that Kaneki verbally bitch-slapped Urie for whining, probably the first real thing he did as a mentor for Urie.

Kaneki no longer the Q's leader and he got promoted pretty interesting development.

Hopefully, next we have the long awaited Cochlea/Hinami Arc that'll really just let Re: spiral out of control.
funny enough he physically bitchslapped him too as Haise.
Dec 12, 2015 10:54 PM
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This is not Kaneki, and this is not Haise.. he's become a totally new personality.
Dec 12, 2015 11:23 PM

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Great chapter.

Interesting to see what happens next. Interesting that people are speculating that he doesn't care about the q's and hes faking his respects to shirazu. I don't think he is as cold hearted as some people think nor that hes faking, he still has his memories of them and the time he's spent getting to know and befriend them.

I think he will be more like a lelouch now, he still cares about his friends and such but he will be willing to put his goals above them and do what's required.
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Wrong, wrong. You're all wrong. New kaneki does care about his friends. He's just never going to show it. He's going to play them and get hinami back. He threw him off to save shuu. Whatever that ghoul was that jumped to save him. I'm pretty sure she'll be fine if the investigators don't get her. I mean she had her head kicked off. Kaneki told shuu to fuck off and leave him alone for his own safety. Like instead of giving him the chance to not be friends and be in danger. He took that option away to guarantee his safety.
Dec 13, 2015 12:14 AM

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Barion-Zara said:
How the hell does Ken just get a. Promotion to Associate after dealing with the Owl alone?
It did say that it was a out of season promotion and since they only get promoted once a year, he can be promoted again.


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Dickneki confirmed. Urie got dhut down real quick XD. Another tragedy (sigh)....
Dec 13, 2015 12:28 AM

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Arcanix said:
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Wrong, wrong. You're all wrong. New kaneki does care about his friends. He's just never going to show it. He's going to play them and get hinami back. He threw him off to save shuu. Whatever that ghoul was that jumped to save him. I'm pretty sure she'll be fine if the investigators don't get her. I mean she had her head kicked off. Kaneki told shuu to fuck off and leave him alone for his own safety. Like instead of giving him the chance to not be friends and be in danger. He took that option away to guarantee his safety.


How dense can someone be? I can't understand how people can see what is going... what's with this fucking smoke?

I think i know what your talking about now with the smoke thing...damn
Dec 13, 2015 12:37 AM
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Kaneki was such a savage in this Chapter. What he did to Shuu and what he said to Urie.....My god

Who saved Shuu though? was it Karen's kagune or was it Eto's?

Now that he has left the QS squad, Kaneki will probably go look for Eto
Dec 13, 2015 12:58 AM

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Le'ts play a game.
Urie is the wife.
Kaneki is the husband.

Kaneki was at work all day, the car wasn't starting, he missed the fucking buss, he arived late. Was scolded by the director. He messed up his project, he got robbed on the way home. Saw someone jump off a building in front of him. Arrived home.

Home, you have Urie telling him "why the fuck didn't you throw the garbage in the morning?". > Kaneki did nothing wrong. I'd be mad too.
Dec 13, 2015 1:03 AM

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PatchworkEden said:
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"All losses in this world are due to lack of ability." Holy... Didn't Jason tell this to Kaneki in the original Tokyo Ghoul?
rize the hallucination kaneki sees during jason as another poster reminded me of, and then kaneki says it during his centipede fight with sinohara iirc


Actually both of you were righ, Jason also said that. I have a fan made one paged translation of chapter 57 that emphasizes it more than the official translation.


And people please stop this redhair bullshit and for god's sake, don't watch Chibi.
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Holy shit this Kaneki is the most ruthless and badass so far i mean even Shironeki still has his innocent and compassionate side.

I think there still a chance Shirazu will return (as a bad guy maybe) i mean people who die in this series dont really die they come back in a different version.
Can't wait to see if "mom and dad" will buy akanekis act
Dec 13, 2015 1:06 AM

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bobzanny said:

When I was reading the spoilers I kinda thought that he tried to save Shuu but after reading the chapter and seeing his dialogue and his panel it seemed that he basically told Shuu to fuck off.


Yup, same with me. The logical assumption is that Tsukiyama must resent Kaneki now, considering everything that has happened in this arc.
I look forward to the next chapter whenever that comes , which will probably shed some more light on Kaneki's thoughts and the situation in CCG.
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Furuta/Kaneki team up incoming... please.

I hope that he throws Touka of a building too and that there will be no one there to catch her with the exception of the ground. Eh, wishful thinking...
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RIP Karren. I never liked you, but even you deserved better.

I wonder Kaneki's respect for Shirazu was acting or his true feelings...


I wonder who does Kaneki actually care about now (people)...
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Arcanix said:
Furuta/Kaneki team up incoming... please.


Nah, it will be Kaneki/Suffering as usually.


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shawnofthedeadzDec 22, 2015 10:33 AM
Between the adult world and the world of kids,

there, Holyland exists.
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Next issue is having a color page so maybe we can finally end this hair color bullshit once and for all.
Dec 13, 2015 1:27 AM

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Arcanix said:
Furuta/Kaneki team up incoming... please.


Yeah, it would be nice. Wonder how is it possible that Furuta knows the name MM. Also Kaneki teams up with Arima I think we will have an Amon arc. I think these are the two possibilities.
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Ophis said:
Next issue is having a color page so maybe we can finally end this hair color bullshit once and for all.

There's blood on his hair so it's definitely red now :^)
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Arcanix said:
Furuta/Kaneki team up incoming... please.

I hope he throws Touka of a building too and that there will be no one there to catch her with the exception of the ground. Eh, wishful thinking...

The day that Kaneki fucks up all the clowns will be a glorious day for this thread.
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Dec 13, 2015 1:44 AM

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That Yamori quote, though. Ui accepted ''Haise'' much easier than I thought he would. Loved how Kaneki threw Tsukiyama off the building, ridding himself of a troublesome ghoul and saving Shuu in one move. Alright, I have to admit: that confession was really powerful, and so was Karren's love. It was good while it lasted. Good being relative.

We have another rising Arima on the horizon. The interactions that will follow the promotion and leaving the Quinx, not to mention the events of the Tsukiyama extermination... can't wait for the aftermath and to see what Furuta's doing.

Arcanix said:
I hope he throws Touka of a building too and that there will be no one there to catch her with the exception of the ground. Eh, wishful thinking...


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Dec 13, 2015 2:44 AM

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i think kaneki dropped shuu because he knew that karren will save him
and i thin shuu is alive
im bit confused of this chapter i dont know what will happen next
Dec 13, 2015 2:53 AM

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Correct me if I missed it, but doesn't Kaneki believe that Tsukiyama and his family have been working with Aogiri for awhile now? I don't understand why so many people believe he's been attacking him just because he thinks he can take it.
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bobzanny said:
Acernos said:


Urie was totally inappropriate to be leader as Sasaki pointed out various errors that Urie commented, and Sasaki did it thinking it would be an opportunity to Urie improve, this is not to act as a mentor?

Depending on how Urie interpret what Sasaneki said in the current chapter, it can get several tragic points, as he follows a path similar to Shironeki, but it remains to be seen.

and I think you are forgetting some points, Urie has been under development for several chapters, you remember the chapter where he breaks down mentally? it is in this chapter that he admits he always tries to take the easy way out and talk all he really thinks. and how his relationship with Mutsuki improved after that? he stopped sabotage Shirazu and was happy that Sasaki was recognizing his skills. and during the raid, Urie demonstrated a genuine concern for Saiko when she was attacked by Noro and even worked together with Mutsuki in fighting ghouls. Urie was already in development even before Shirazu die, the problem is that many fans only give attention to the "Promotion, Promotion, Promotion".

All the development that Urie has gotten these last few chapters, which I have loved and has turned around my impression of Urie, were from his squadmates not Sasaki's teachings/mentoring.

Sasaki was a bad mentor-instead of getting gritty and putting Urie in his place and having 1 on 1 sessions and drilling him on what he needs to do to improve, he demotes him and puts Shirazu in charge, another bad move. Shirazu was never capable of being the Q's squad leader and it showed in each subsequent arc until his death.

The Sasaki personality would've consoled Urie and may have even put some of the blame on himself for not making it in time. The current Kaneki told Urie straight up that Urie shouldn't misplace his anger and guilt to Sasaki-instead Urie needs to man up from each point onward to make sure that this does no happen again.


Sasaki explained to Arima the reasons that led him to choose Shirazu as leader, was not without reason, Shirazu pays attention to what is around him, you could review how Urie was leading the Qs to death in fighting serpent. Leave Urie as leader would reward him for being incompetent, if see what's wrong with his subordinates and try to fix this is to be an incompetent mentor for you, so this is a new vision of this meaning.

and again, let's hope Urie not follow a similar path and make the same mistakes Shironeki. and if you still think that Sasaki is a incompetent, review the scenes between him and Qs carefully, especially with Shirazu.
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OMG Kanae please don't die t_________t
Amazing chapter as always!
Dec 13, 2015 5:26 AM

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deadglory said:
Arcanix said:
Furuta/Kaneki team up incoming... please.


Yeah, it would be nice. Wonder how is it possible that Furuta knows the name MM.
Don't know if you already know about it or if somebody's already answered you, but there's a pretty legit theory going around that Souta=Furuta, which would explain a lot.
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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
Dec 13, 2015 6:04 AM

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Good riddance Karren.

Kaneki getting that promotion, now he's one step closer to Arima.
Dec 13, 2015 6:22 AM

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Now I am waiting for the new arc...Calmly
Ishida-sensei is soooooo unpredictable.
Dec 13, 2015 6:50 AM

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n0thinglasts said:
Great chapter.

Interesting to see what happens next. Interesting that people are speculating that he doesn't care about the q's and hes faking his respects to shirazu. I don't think he is as cold hearted as some people think nor that hes faking, he still has his memories of them and the time he's spent getting to know and befriend them.

I think he will be more like a lelouch now, he still cares about his friends and such but he will be willing to put his goals above them and do what's required.
Pretty much. I definitely see him going down that route.

This new Kaneki has no remorse at all. The old Kaneki was ruthless to his enemies but he would never do anything to harm his friends. This new one looks like he'll sacrifice anyone to accomplish his goals.
Dec 13, 2015 7:02 AM

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Well damn. I guess Kaneki's completely taken over again. I wonder if Urie going to become like Kaneki??? Or maybe he'll be an example of how Kaneki could've turned out differently?? Aghhhh. I really really liked Shirazu...

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n0thinglasts said:
Great chapter.

Interesting to see what happens next. Interesting that people are speculating that he doesn't care about the q's and hes faking his respects to shirazu. I don't think he is as cold hearted as some people think nor that hes faking, he still has his memories of them and the time he's spent getting to know and befriend them.

I think he will be more like a lelouch now, he still cares about his friends and such but he will be willing to put his goals above them and do what's required.
Pretty much. I definitely see him going down that route.

This new Kaneki has no remorse at all. The old Kaneki was ruthless to his enemies but he would never do anything to harm his friends. This new one looks like he'll sacrifice anyone to accomplish his goals.


Completely agree. I'm definitely feeling some Arima vibes...



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I think it's too early to say anything about his goals. After what he did with Tsukyama, I am not sure about what he will do next or if he really willing to save Hinami.



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Ruthless Kaneki is my favorite Kaneki
Dec 13, 2015 8:30 AM

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Thanks guys. It will be a long wait but I'm glad this chapter didn't end with a cliffhanger. The OVA will be airing sometime soon if I remember correctly so that's something.
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Hm, it’s unclear yet what is a new Kaneki, but the way it is said how he abandons quinx… it's is cold.

I am not sure I’ll like this new personality. I’ll also be sad, if he will simply try to save everyone who he was nice with at some point. Yet it’s the most likely development, considering that he saved Shu.
I am not looking forward to his betrayal of CCG. I feel bad for Hinami, but she made a choice that should kill her. But sadly it won't.
Also repeating Rize's logic? Seriously?

Btw, is Ui dead? I wonder why CCG’s surveillance of Haise is so bad.
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deadoptimist said:

Btw, is Ui dead?


Why he would be dead?
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haunter_ex said:
deadoptimist said:

Btw, is Ui dead?


Why he would be dead?


On the page 8 there's some half-severed head in the top right panel (I'd better not link), I don't get what it is, and also if Ui is alive, I'd expect there to be questioning why Kaneki let Shu escape rather than a new rank. CCG prefers their ghoul bodies turned into quinques, not thrown from buildings.
But I dunno, that's why I ask.
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deadoptimist said:
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Why he would be dead?


On the page 8 there's some half-severed head in the top right panel (I'd better not link), I don't get what it is, and also if Ui is alive, I'd expect there to be questioning why Kaneki let Shu escape rather than a new rank. CCG prefers their ghoul bodies turned into quinques, not thrown from buildings.
But I dunno, that's why I ask.


well, for those who do not know about their relationship, Sasaneki clearly tried kill Shuu, which prevented this was Kanae, but Kanae was responsability of Ui. is easier Ui to be blame, and as shown in the dialog of the image, had investigators on the ground or going to ever ready to kill the ghouls that would fall (Shuu or Kanae).

and on page 8, is another investigator being killed, Ui defended the attack



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Acernos said:
well, for those who do not know about their relationship, Sasaneki clearly tried kill Shuu, which prevented this was Kanae, but Kanae was responsability of Ui. is easier Ui to be blame, and as shown in the dialog of the image, had investigators on the ground or going to ever ready to kill the ghouls that would fall (Shuu or Kanae).

and on page 8, is another investigator being killed, Ui defended the attack


Ah, ok, thanks. I forgot that Ui had company, so I ran out of people to had head chopped off in my mental image of the situation and was confused.

Ui should be suspicious though. Shu called "Haise" Kaneki too.
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Wow I never liked Kanae and now I'm just here going bruh, really? Poor dude. Even if there's a possibility that Kaneki threw Shu off the roof to protect him, his doing so basically ensured and assisted in Kanae's death. How will Shu ever forgive him? (Then again Shu did fucked up shit to him in the past too so...)

Man I feel empty. I want Kaneki's happiness (but not if it involves shitting on the people he used to care about). He better go save Hinami.

But I really loved what he said to annoying ass Urie. Right on the mark. Don't blame other's for your own weakness. Boss.
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I wanted to see Matsuri's reaction, oh well.

See you in the next arc, Kiyoko Aura and Furuta.

Out of season promotion? So no Yoshitoki yet, thanks.

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I honestly don't even know what;s going on anymore honestly.



-Kaneki calms Ui down by telling him he had to eat the Kakuja in order to rejuvenate
-Ui goes after Kanae; Kaneki impales and throws Tsukiyama out.
-Kanae runs after Shuu, she throws herself in front while launching Tsuki somewhere else so that he could at least survive the fall
-Kanae splatters on the floor
-Eto nowhere in sight
Meanwhile
-Urie gets mad because Kaneki didn't appear soon enough for Shirazu (Shirazu requested to see Haise one last time in the previous chapter)
-Kaneki gets promoted to Associate Special Class; Urie is Quinx Squad Leader

/arc end


You r perf. I got the gist of it but I appreciate you explaining things to people.

But one thing that surprised me was that when Kaneki was eating the Kakuja, no body really questioned it? I thought, or I more like I guessed, that the CCG wouldn't be cool with that.



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I have mixed feeling about this conclusion but oh well... I'm more interested about what Kaneki will do now that he has been promoted and what's coming next !!
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well, for those who do not know about their relationship, Sasaneki clearly tried kill Shuu,
Did it really look like he actually tried to kill him, tho? There were literally thousand more effective ways to finish him than throwing him off the top of the building. Everyone on that rooftop must've known that.
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And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
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I gotta say re-reading the chapter in color, especially the final page, just makes Tokyo Ghoul all the more enjoyable.



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I'm starting to worrying about the new Kaneki. He does not seem to be 'okay', I mean he almost killed Tsukiyama, and I don't think he cared if he would stay alive or not... Same goes for what he said to Urie... Now, what will he do in the CCG? Why is he taking a distance with the Qx Squad? So many questions...
Well, I'm looking forward for the next arc even if it will cause more pain ;_; and the OVA is also coming soon.
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Since √B is happening sooner or later, the falling scene would be pretty interesting due to the intense confession of love in German.

Acernos said:
Sasaneki clearly tried kill Shuu


Yeah, no.
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Kaneki didn't finish devouring eto's kakuhou. CCG just got the jackpot. I think they are gonna make a weapon out of it for Arima


I was sort of thinking the same thing, only wouldn't Kaneki get the weapon, since he was the one who beat Eto?
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lol even Ghouls speak German now!!! :P :P I am ashamed of myself
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I am confused... So Kaneki came back, but Haise is still with him?
And did Tsukiyama really die? I really cannot imagine Kaneki killing him for real T^T
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I am confused... So Kaneki came back, but Haise is still with him?
And did Tsukiyama really die? I really cannot imagine Kaneki killing him for real T^T

Sasaki Haise=Ken Kaneki with no memory. Now we have Ken Kaneki with all previous memory plus his knowledge from being Haise-so while he's basically pretending to be himself with other CCG members as him remembering Ken Kaneki makes him SS rated ghoul centipede.
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Wonder how the series will continue from now..

Will the CCG still allow Kaneki to remain in their ranks or try to kill him off?

Will Kaneki still stay and obey Arima?

Did he try to kill Tsukiyama or try to save him by flinging him away to make it look like he was dead?

So many questions...
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Tiame said:
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Kaneki didn't finish devouring eto's kakuhou. CCG just got the jackpot. I think they are gonna make a weapon out of it for Arima


I was sort of thinking the same thing, only wouldn't Kaneki get the weapon, since he was the one who beat Eto?


Isn't it just her Kakuja (since Ukakus Kakuhou is in the upper body)? They can't make out of weapon from that.
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