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Jun 17, 2015 1:57 AM
#1
Why is it that whenever an anime gets a lot of praise, we always always have more people attacking the fans and calling them obnoxious than the actual obnoxious fans? I've noticed it with LOGH especially. Why are people so jealous (that their favourites don't get as much praise)? This is really more common with anime than any other entertainment medium. |
Jun 17, 2015 2:00 AM
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Jun 17, 2015 2:03 AM
#3
What makes you think they attack the anime out of jealousy? Do they all go around saying that? I don't think everybody does that, but maybe some. |
Jun 17, 2015 2:05 AM
#4
Doesn't everything have those kinds of people though? |
Jun 17, 2015 2:10 AM
#5
Kagami_Hiiragi said: What makes you think they attack the anime out of jealousy? Do they all go around saying that? I don't think everybody does that, but maybe some. I'm talking about stuff like this: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1372468&show=0 Have you literally ever seen anyone who believes that watching LOGH makes him/her smart? Seriously... |
Jun 17, 2015 2:11 AM
#6
It's not strictly restricted to anime only, an inferiority complex with regards to taste can be found in other mediums as well. |
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Jun 17, 2015 2:16 AM
#7
Agafin said: Kagami_Hiiragi said: What makes you think they attack the anime out of jealousy? Do they all go around saying that? I don't think everybody does that, but maybe some. I'm talking about stuff like this: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1372468&show=0 Have you literally ever seen anyone who believes that watching LOGH makes him/her smart? Seriously... OP said he enjoys the show so that goes against what this topic is about. That thread can no longer be jealousy. |
Jun 17, 2015 2:23 AM
#9
People only start attacking fans if they are obnoxious like praising it to high heaven and insulting every other anime while also thinking they are superior for watching it. LOTGH fans got a bad reputation years ago (before I joined this site) I have heard because some fans were really obnoxious but now it's really died down I think. The stigma seems to have still remained though. |
Jun 17, 2015 2:23 AM
#10
romagia said: deepthe answer lies deep in human nature OT: i dunno but most fanbases has this "superiority complex" which I find obnoxious and yes, I've been a victim with such obnoxiousness from those "Big 3" or Tokyo Ghoul or Fate fans bot teh Internet and real life coz of teh reason dat I hav Mushi-shi as a favrit lmao |
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Jun 17, 2015 2:25 AM
#11
Agafin said: This is really more common with anime than any other entertainment medium. Prove? Source? |
Jun 17, 2015 2:30 AM
#12
DrGeroCreation said: People only start attacking fans if they are obnoxious like praising it to high heaven and insulting every other anime while also thinking they are superior for watching it. LOTGH fans got a bad reputation years ago (before I joined this site) I have heard because some fans were really obnoxious but now it's really died down I think. The stigma seems to have still remained though. If it has died down (assuming it existed), then why hasn't the memetic fanbashing died down too? |
Jun 17, 2015 2:34 AM
#13
Agafin said: Turn of tides m8If it has died down (assuming it existed), then why hasn't the memetic fanbashing died down too? I mean cmon, this is why people hate anime fanbases coz of "x is better than y" mentality |
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Jun 17, 2015 2:34 AM
#14
Agafin said: I hardly ever see a lot of memetic fanbashing more like jabs at the fanbase here and there.DrGeroCreation said: People only start attacking fans if they are obnoxious like praising it to high heaven and insulting every other anime while also thinking they are superior for watching it. LOTGH fans got a bad reputation years ago (before I joined this site) I have heard because some fans were really obnoxious but now it's really died down I think. The stigma seems to have still remained though. If it has died down (assuming it existed), then why hasn't the memetic fanbashing died down too? |
Jun 17, 2015 2:37 AM
#15
lol no the toxic of logh fans is only getting worse just look at some recent threads i was on hummngbird and there is no problem like that only mal |
Jun 17, 2015 2:37 AM
#16
zombie_pegasus said: I don't know. I actually prefer having an less popular (in the west) favourite anime. Same. I actually prefer it when people don't know about a show. |
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Jun 17, 2015 2:37 AM
#17
I can't help it. My willy is so small that the first girl I ever managed to take home with me started laughing hysterically and insulting me for being impotent and "not man enough" (I quote). It broke my spirit, so I started watching animu as an escape. I try my best to watch lesser known anime cause then I can pretend to be superior to the lesser, generic fans (fucking plebs). Next time I try to find an anime I'm gonna ask if they can show me the car fax |
Jun 17, 2015 2:38 AM
#18
Kagami_Hiiragi said: Agafin said: Kagami_Hiiragi said: What makes you think they attack the anime out of jealousy? Do they all go around saying that? I don't think everybody does that, but maybe some. I'm talking about stuff like this: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1372468&show=0 Have you literally ever seen anyone who believes that watching LOGH makes him/her smart? Seriously... You can like something and still think it's (very) overrated so no, npot really. OP said he enjoys the show so that goes against what this topic is about. That thread can no longer be jealousy. tsudecimo said: Agafin said: This is really more common with anime than any other entertainment medium. Prove? Source? What do you want me to prove? It's just personal observation. I can't for example think of an american cartoon or live action whose fanbase is victim of what I just mentioned for LOGH. |
Jun 17, 2015 2:40 AM
#19
Just so happens to be that those who often criticize my taste (usually in an "ironic" way) tend to have that same old Top 5 to boot. I'm tired of this clannish behavior but I'm not necessarily in an inferiority complex. I have told some of these people I'm better at life than they are, that shut them right up. |
Jun 17, 2015 2:40 AM
#20
noLoserguy said: I see no LoGH fans preaching "LoGH best animu" there ljust look at some recent threads |
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Jun 17, 2015 2:41 AM
#21
noLoserguy said: lol no the toxic of logh fans is only getting worse just look at some recent threads i was on hummngbird and there is no problem like that only mal A lot of them are fresh off YouTube and TAS's channel. Don't shoot the messenger. |
Jun 17, 2015 2:42 AM
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noLoserguy said: i look at threads and nothing therelol no the toxic of logh fans is only getting worse just look at some recent threads i was on hummngbird and there is no problem like that only mal i think it's just you looking for an excuse to preach about hummingbird |
Jun 17, 2015 2:43 AM
#23
no i mean last time i said logh isnt that great in a thread and a wild crowd of meme posters appeard to confirm my shit taste |
Jun 17, 2015 2:44 AM
#24
Well first of all, there is no actual bashing, the whole thing with LOGH is just memes. I've never seen someone actually bashing LOGH fans, and be serious about it. Are you active in movie centeric forums? I doubt it. A lot of movie fans get bashed, Citzen Cane fans get called elitists, The wire fans get called obnoxious because they keep saying it's the best TV show ever, The dark knight triliogy fans, because they say it's better than the comics, etc This isn't an anime exclusive, it's a people exclusive thing. There is hate for pretty much everything, that is praised a lot, that's why the term overrated exists, that's why the term fanboy wars exist etc Majority of people who are active online in forums probably have low self esteem, and insecurities, talking trash is how they feel better, and elevate themselves, common sense really. |
Jun 17, 2015 2:45 AM
#25
noLoserguy said: no i mean last time i said logh isnt that great in a thread and a wild crowd of meme posters appeard to confirm my shit taste I rest my case when I say these are likely YouTube trolls and TAS's toadies using HB accounts. |
Jun 17, 2015 2:45 AM
#26
I think the Bebop fanbase fits more than LOTGH what the op is talking about although not fully. There are people who hate Bebop simply because it's old and popular and always attack the fanbase collectively. |
Jun 17, 2015 2:45 AM
#27
noLoserguy said: pls link itno i mean last time i said logh isnt that great in a thread and a wild crowd of meme posters appeard to confirm my shit taste or nah coz Nicoreos said: I rest my case when I say these are likely YouTube trolls and TAS's toadies using HB accounts. |
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Jun 17, 2015 2:46 AM
#28
Well criticizing is all right but looking down on others because they don't agree with you is bad.Truly speaking,I have heard quite a bit about LOGH fans but I haven't yet come across anyone who behaves the way they are generally described. Also,going by the link OP provided,watching anime doesn't make you smart in irl |
Jun 17, 2015 2:47 AM
#29
DrGeroCreation said: I think the Bebop fanbase fits more than LOTGH what the op is talking about although not fully. There are people who hate Bebop simply because it's old and popular and always attack the fanbase collectively. I think Bebop is becoming more and more hated in the elitist crowd. Wonder if it's the anti-semitism within these people that hate on Spike for being Jewish. I've seen lots of Shlomo Shekelberg YT posts on Bebop review videos. |
Jun 17, 2015 2:48 AM
#30
laidellent said: watch anime => know more about anime => become smarter in anime (which is a form of IRL because anime do exist in reality)Well criticizing is all right but looking down on others because they don't agree with you is bad.Truly speaking,I have heard quite a bit about LOGH fans but I haven't yet come across anyone who behaves the way they are generally described. Also,going by the link OP provided,watching anime doesn't make you smart in irl |
Jun 17, 2015 2:48 AM
#31
laidellent said: ThisWell criticizing is all right but looking down on others because they don't agree with you is bad.Truly speaking,I have heard quite a bit about LOGH fans but I haven't yet come across anyone who behaves the way they are generally described. Also,going by the link OP provided,watching anime doesn't make you smart in irl That's just a 'fantasy" world. All the "knowledge" there will not working IRL. PERIOD |
Jun 17, 2015 2:49 AM
#32
romagia said: but ur 4 corners of ur room isnt reality u knolaidellent said: watch anime => know more about anime => become smarter in anime (which is a form of IRL because anime do exist in reality)Well criticizing is all right but looking down on others because they don't agree with you is bad.Truly speaking,I have heard quite a bit about LOGH fans but I haven't yet come across anyone who behaves the way they are generally described. Also,going by the link OP provided,watching anime doesn't make you smart in irl |
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Jun 17, 2015 2:49 AM
#33
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1393893&show=0#post19 when even other users know that someone is coming to say i have shit taste then this speaks for the toxcity of the fanbse |
Jun 17, 2015 2:50 AM
#34
DrGeroCreation said: I think the Bebop fanbase fits more than LOTGH what the op is talking about although not fully. There are people who hate Bebop simply because it's old and popular and always attack the fanbase collectively. Never seen a hate on Bebop. Frankly, it's such a neutral show I can't imagine one hating on it. But I don't understand these calling it masterpiece either. It's good, just nothing really impressive at all IMO. |
Jun 17, 2015 2:51 AM
#35
romagia said: laidellent said: watch anime => know more about anime => become smarter in anime (which is a form of IRL because anime do exist in reality)Well criticizing is all right but looking down on others because they don't agree with you is bad.Truly speaking,I have heard quite a bit about LOGH fans but I haven't yet come across anyone who behaves the way they are generally described. Also,going by the link OP provided,watching anime doesn't make you smart in irl yes but I highly doubt my knowledge of anime will help me in any practical situations unless I am interested in joining the anime industry.I watch anime for fun in my free time.There is nothing more than that to it. |
Jun 17, 2015 2:52 AM
#36
Imaishi said: Bebop hate is pretty common on this site. A lot of people hate on it simply for being episodic even people who haven't seen it as yet.DrGeroCreation said: I think the Bebop fanbase fits more than LOTGH what the op is talking about although not fully. There are people who hate Bebop simply because it's old and popular and always attack the fanbase collectively. Never seen a hate on Bebop. Frankly, it's such a neutral show I can't imagine one hating on it. But I don't understand these calling it masterpiece either. It's good, just nothing really impressive at all IMO. |
Jun 17, 2015 2:52 AM
#37
Nicoreos said: DrGeroCreation said: I think the Bebop fanbase fits more than LOTGH what the op is talking about although not fully. There are people who hate Bebop simply because it's old and popular and always attack the fanbase collectively. I think Bebop is becoming more and more hated in the elitist crowd. Wonder if it's the anti-semitism within these people that hate on Spike for being Jewish. I've seen lots of Shlomo Shekelberg YT posts on Bebop review videos. so elitist are anti semitist? |
Jun 17, 2015 2:52 AM
#38
noLoserguy said: lol i should've paid more attention to that thread because it's the first time i see this funny meme http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1393893&show=0#post19 when even other users know that someone is coming to say i have shit taste then this speaks for the toxcity of the fanbse http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/clubs/13/266491.jpg i wouldn't take it seriously tho |
Jun 17, 2015 2:53 AM
#39
DrGeroCreation said: I think people hate Bebop because it is the definition of style over substance. Good music and animation with shallow characters and a plot that is essentially 90% filler.I think the Bebop fanbase fits more than LOTGH what the op is talking about although not fully. There are people who hate Bebop simply because it's old and popular and always attack the fanbase collectively. |
Jun 17, 2015 2:53 AM
#40
romagia said: noLoserguy said: lol i should've paid more attention to that thread because it's the first time i see this funny meme http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1393893&show=0#post19 when even other users know that someone is coming to say i have shit taste then this speaks for the toxcity of the fanbse http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/clubs/13/266491.jpg i dont know why logh is deep and intellectual entertainment lol |
Jun 17, 2015 2:53 AM
#41
noLoserguy said: Nicoreos said: DrGeroCreation said: I think the Bebop fanbase fits more than LOTGH what the op is talking about although not fully. There are people who hate Bebop simply because it's old and popular and always attack the fanbase collectively. I think Bebop is becoming more and more hated in the elitist crowd. Wonder if it's the anti-semitism within these people that hate on Spike for being Jewish. I've seen lots of Shlomo Shekelberg YT posts on Bebop review videos. so elitist are anti semitist? muh kaiser reinhard master race so ofc while the shlomo comments are funny, they're probably not bright at all so ignore them |
Jun 17, 2015 2:54 AM
#42
Nicoreos said: noLoserguy said: Nicoreos said: DrGeroCreation said: I think the Bebop fanbase fits more than LOTGH what the op is talking about although not fully. There are people who hate Bebop simply because it's old and popular and always attack the fanbase collectively. I think Bebop is becoming more and more hated in the elitist crowd. Wonder if it's the anti-semitism within these people that hate on Spike for being Jewish. I've seen lots of Shlomo Shekelberg YT posts on Bebop review videos. so elitist are anti semitist? muh kaiser reinhard master race so ofc so every elitist has to like reinhard? |
Jun 17, 2015 2:54 AM
#43
noLoserguy said: i think that is an ironic use of buzzwords but each to his own interpretation (eh.. maybe ironic is not the right word)romagia said: noLoserguy said: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1393893&show=0#post19 when even other users know that someone is coming to say i have shit taste then this speaks for the toxcity of the fanbse http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/clubs/13/266491.jpg i dont know why logh is deep and intellectual entertainment lol memes are trully the highest form of art |
Jun 17, 2015 2:54 AM
#44
noLoserguy said: romagia said: noLoserguy said: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1393893&show=0#post19 when even other users know that someone is coming to say i have shit taste then this speaks for the toxcity of the fanbse http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/clubs/13/266491.jpg i dont know why logh is deep and intellectual entertainment lol Exceptionalism, there's your answer. Anime is not supposed to be anything deep or intellectual at all. It's not a scholarly medium. |
Jun 17, 2015 2:55 AM
#45
I have usually found the Anime fan-base to be utterly obnoxious. They don't respect others opinion, think their opinion about an Anime is superior and will not wait to downright insult you if you like an Anime that isn't to their liking. |
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Jun 17, 2015 2:55 AM
#46
noLoserguy said: no not rlyNicoreos said: noLoserguy said: Nicoreos said: DrGeroCreation said: I think the Bebop fanbase fits more than LOTGH what the op is talking about although not fully. There are people who hate Bebop simply because it's old and popular and always attack the fanbase collectively. I think Bebop is becoming more and more hated in the elitist crowd. Wonder if it's the anti-semitism within these people that hate on Spike for being Jewish. I've seen lots of Shlomo Shekelberg YT posts on Bebop review videos. so elitist are anti semitist? muh kaiser reinhard master race so ofc so every elitist has to like reinhard? even an elitist can like One Piece or Naruto and preach it as teh best animu evaaaaaaaarrrrrr in teh streets |
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Jun 17, 2015 2:56 AM
#47
JD2411 said: It's episodic with an overarching plot like typical action western cartoons. It doesn't really have filler.The anime fans who hate Bebop I suspect are anime fans who also hate action based western cartoons and only enjoy serial storytelling. The characters are okay to me but could have used greater focus.DrGeroCreation said: I think people hate Bebop because it is the definition of style over substance. Good music and animation with shallow characters and a plot that is essentially 90% filler.I think the Bebop fanbase fits more than LOTGH what the op is talking about although not fully. There are people who hate Bebop simply because it's old and popular and always attack the fanbase collectively. |
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Jun 17, 2015 2:56 AM
#48
Remv_quevav said: noLoserguy said: no not rlyNicoreos said: noLoserguy said: Nicoreos said: DrGeroCreation said: I think the Bebop fanbase fits more than LOTGH what the op is talking about although not fully. There are people who hate Bebop simply because it's old and popular and always attack the fanbase collectively. I think Bebop is becoming more and more hated in the elitist crowd. Wonder if it's the anti-semitism within these people that hate on Spike for being Jewish. I've seen lots of Shlomo Shekelberg YT posts on Bebop review videos. so elitist are anti semitist? muh kaiser reinhard master race so ofc so every elitist has to like reinhard? even an elitist can like One Piece or Naruto and preach it as teh best animu evaaaaaaaarrrrrr in teh streets They're all elitist causals but the "elitist" subculture according to them is having LOGH and 4 other 4deep20u titles in your Top 5 to fit in. Like that club called Elite or Shit or something or hell even leech off ThatAnimeSnob's list for grades/favorites. |
Jun 17, 2015 2:57 AM
#49
romagia said: noLoserguy said: i think that is an ironic use of buzzwords but each to his own interpretation (eh.. maybe ironic is not the right word)romagia said: noLoserguy said: lol i should've paid more attention to that thread because it's the first time i see this funny meme http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1393893&show=0#post19 when even other users know that someone is coming to say i have shit taste then this speaks for the toxcity of the fanbse http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/clubs/13/266491.jpg i dont know why logh is deep and intellectual entertainment lol memes are trully the highest form of art yeah lol isnt meme using contradicting elitism in a way?lol Nicoreos said: noLoserguy said: romagia said: noLoserguy said: lol i should've paid more attention to that thread because it's the first time i see this funny meme http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1393893&show=0#post19 when even other users know that someone is coming to say i have shit taste then this speaks for the toxcity of the fanbse http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/clubs/13/266491.jpg i dont know why logh is deep and intellectual entertainment lol Exceptionalism, there's your answer. Anime is not supposed to be anything deep or intellectual at all. It's not a scholarly medium. what is exceptionalism?sorry i dont know this word in english |
Jun 17, 2015 2:57 AM
#50
SLAIDEN_IV said: this is what happened hereI have usually found the Anime fan-base to be utterly obnoxious. They don't respect others opinion, think their opinion about an Anime is superior and will not wait to downright insult you if you like an Anime that isn't to their liking. noLoserguy said: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1393893&show=0#post19 when even other users know that someone is coming to say i have shit taste then this speaks for the toxcity of the fanbse it's entirely the op's fault tho |
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