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Jan 28, 2015 4:28 PM
#101
| Well, it'd tie up some of the "loose ends" really nice. Alternatively, Sasaki/Kaneki could kill/eat Touka, which in turn would, most likely, make Yomo, Ayato, and I guess some another people and ghouls quite angry. Plus it'd give Sasaki/Kaneki the "push" that he really needs now. |
Jan 28, 2015 5:32 PM
#102
| @putrescence, and that's why you'll never be even 1 millionth as good a writer as Ishida :( Akira isn't dying, but some quinckes definitely are. |
Jan 28, 2015 6:15 PM
#103
Putrescence said: WatIt'd be nice if Sasaki/Kaneki goes full Griffith at the auction. If he then mind-breaks Akira (e.g. rapes her, or seriously hurts her physically), Amon could become his Guts.That'd be great. |
Jan 28, 2015 8:30 PM
#104
| I do not understand this obsession by tragedy, when the manga was supposedly finished, most fans complained about the tragic end, and these were the same fans who wanted more blood, screams and tears. |
Jan 28, 2015 11:32 PM
#105
ichii_1 said: @putrescence, and that's why you'll never be even 1 millionth as good a writer as Ishida :( Akira isn't dying, but some quinckes definitely are. No dude, that'd be awesome. Just to see everyone cry over Touka |
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Jan 29, 2015 12:07 AM
#106
| Ah, the MAL hivemind...I'd forgotten that every opinion deviating from the common opinion is wrong. Even if it is a valid comparison between two great works. And thank you, ichii_1. You seem to know me very well, and I appreciate your input. Not that I am trying to become a better author than Ishida, or an author at all, for that matter. Or that Ishida is some literary genius, a colossus of modern storytelling, if you wish. Acernos, I don't wish for more blood, screams, and tears (there are plenty of those already). I just want the tension, that has been building for a long time now, to be resolved. Oh, and there's more tragedy now than there ever was in the prequel. |
Jan 29, 2015 12:35 AM
#107
ichii_1 said: @putrescence, and that's why you'll never be even 1 millionth as good a writer as Ishida :( Akira isn't dying, but some quinckes definitely are. I agree, except psycho bc even thou I hate her sensei seems to love her. |
| "It's like Tolstoy said. Happiness is an allegory, unhappiness a story" "And the sense of tragedy-according to Aristotle.comes, ironically enough, not from the protagonist's weak points but from his good qualities. Do you know what I'm getting at? People are drawn deeper into tragedy not by their defects but by their virtues" Kafka on the shore by Haruki Murakami...the man that was the inspiration for Sen Takatsuki |
Jan 29, 2015 3:37 AM
#108
Putrescence said: Ah, the MAL hivemind...I'd forgotten that every opinion deviating from the common opinion is wrong. This quote couldn't be more true. But i'm curious as to why you think Haise will attempt rape, that's never been something that has crossed the mind of even white-haired Kaneki. |
Jan 29, 2015 4:21 AM
#109
Acernos said: ma103 said: Acernos said: There is a high chance the victim will be kept safe and alive until the auction though. Plus I don't think nutcracker will be interested in eating any female. and then? this changes the fact that Sasaki was prioritizing the research rather than not involve innocent people? Not saying you are wrong but just pointing out that Sasaki may choose to abandon his investigation and save the victim if she is in absolute danger. The fact that she is considered relatively safe may have crossed sasaki's mind and thus not taking any action to spoil nutcracker's plan. Putrescence said: Ah, the MAL hivemind...I'd forgotten that every opinion deviating from the common opinion is wrong. Even if it is a valid comparison between two great works. And thank you, ichii_1. You seem to know me very well, and I appreciate your input. Not that I am trying to become a better author than Ishida, or an author at all, for that matter. Or that Ishida is some literary genius, a colossus of modern storytelling, if you wish. Acernos, I don't wish for more blood, screams, and tears (there are plenty of those already). I just want the tension, that has been building for a long time now, to be resolved. Oh, and there's more tragedy now than there ever was in the prequel. Well at least the thing you are seeking is same as the majority : plot twist. Just that stuffs like sasaki attempting to eat/rape akira/touka are quite unlikely to happen. Even if he is at the peak of his insanity, he did manage to stop himself from eating shinohara though what happened to hide is still unclear. |
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Jan 29, 2015 8:53 AM
#110
| Ghouls are everywhere in the manga. TG just focuses on the ones in Tokyo. :) I'm still curious about the origin of ghouls. I've read a lot of interesting theories and it's implied in the manga that even Touka wants to know the origin of her race. So that will probably come out of the closet sooner or later. |
Happy happy happy!!! |
Jan 29, 2015 9:26 AM
#111
Putrescence said: Ah, the MAL hivemind...I'd forgotten that every opinion deviating from the common opinion is wrong. Even if it is a valid comparison between two great works. And thank you, ichii_1. You seem to know me very well, and I appreciate your input. Not that I am trying to become a better author than Ishida, or an author at all, for that matter. Or that Ishida is some literary genius, a colossus of modern storytelling, if you wish. Acernos, I don't wish for more blood, screams, and tears (there are plenty of those already). I just want the tension, that has been building for a long time now, to be resolved. Oh, and there's more tragedy now than there ever was in the prequel. No it's the fact that you're like "I wanna see Sasaki get on over to Akira and rape her" which was incredibly random and out of left field, even if you were comparing it to something else where it happens. I mean fine, you can go ahead and want that to happen but it's so out of context for what's going on in the story right now that everyone did a double take on your post. |
Jan 29, 2015 10:20 AM
#112
| Again, I don't particularly want Akira or Touka to somehow get hurt. It just that, given the current cast, these characters are two of the most appropriate "tools" to turn the story around. If Ishida even wants to do such a drastic twist, that is, which I doubt, since he usually manages to bring the story forward without going to the extremes. Plus, the rape was only mentioned as a parallel to Berserk, nothing more. And to those of you who say that there's literally no chance in the world that Sasaki/Kaneki would kill/eat/rape someone close to him, read a little more. At the end of the prequel, Kaneki almost couldn't restrain himself to hurt/eat Hide, his best friend and possibly one of the most important people to him, and all signs pointed at Kaneki spiraling even more. So, keep all that bottled up and growing for three years, the fact that the CCG (possibly) corrupted and violated him, the disparities between his past and present, and many other reasons, and then release all these suppressed feelings at a single point in time, perhaps through a traumatic event. Can you really say, with 100% certainty, that Sasaki/Kaneki won't completely lose control over himself? |
Jan 29, 2015 10:32 AM
#113
| Hurt/eat is definitely not out of the question. I'm among those that think Hide was probably eaten at the end of the Anteiku arc. But I guess it was the rape I was focusing on that is really out of context. Nowhere in the story has it ever been hinted that Kaneki is some sort of sexual deviant, sexually violent, etc. And on the contrary, I do think he will lose control of himself completely eventually. He came really close to it at the end of TG and even this early on :re he lost control of himself when fighting Nishiki. |
Jan 29, 2015 10:37 AM
#114
CNTRI715 said: Hurt/eat is definitely not out of the question. I'm among those that think Hide was probably eaten at the end of the Anteiku arc. But I guess it was the rape I was focusing on that is really out of context. Nowhere in the story has it ever been hinted that Kaneki is some sort of sexual deviant, sexually violent, etc. And on the contrary, I do think he will lose control of himself completely eventually. He came really close to it at the end of TG and even this early on :re he lost control of himself when fighting Nishiki. But wouldnt losing control lead to a second death? |
| "It's like Tolstoy said. Happiness is an allegory, unhappiness a story" "And the sense of tragedy-according to Aristotle.comes, ironically enough, not from the protagonist's weak points but from his good qualities. Do you know what I'm getting at? People are drawn deeper into tragedy not by their defects but by their virtues" Kafka on the shore by Haruki Murakami...the man that was the inspiration for Sen Takatsuki |
Jan 29, 2015 1:26 PM
#115
gabyta07 said: CNTRI715 said: Hurt/eat is definitely not out of the question. I'm among those that think Hide was probably eaten at the end of the Anteiku arc. But I guess it was the rape I was focusing on that is really out of context. Nowhere in the story has it ever been hinted that Kaneki is some sort of sexual deviant, sexually violent, etc. And on the contrary, I do think he will lose control of himself completely eventually. He came really close to it at the end of TG and even this early on :re he lost control of himself when fighting Nishiki. But wouldnt losing control lead to a second death? Think about it though, Haise's mind at the moment is delicate. So if he were to regain his memories I seriously doubt he'd get over it like it was nothing. His mind would be fucked. If all his memories that are filled with suffering and tragedy were to come back rushing to him, he's gonna go insane. No person can handle all that pain in an instant. So right now Haise's in a delicate position. Him remembering his past will come with lots of pain. So the question is how will he recover from it? |
Jan 29, 2015 1:50 PM
#116
AquaWateria said: gabyta07 said: CNTRI715 said: Hurt/eat is definitely not out of the question. I'm among those that think Hide was probably eaten at the end of the Anteiku arc. But I guess it was the rape I was focusing on that is really out of context. Nowhere in the story has it ever been hinted that Kaneki is some sort of sexual deviant, sexually violent, etc. And on the contrary, I do think he will lose control of himself completely eventually. He came really close to it at the end of TG and even this early on :re he lost control of himself when fighting Nishiki. But wouldnt losing control lead to a second death? Think about it though, Haise's mind at the moment is delicate. So if he were to regain his memories I seriously doubt he'd get over it like it was nothing. His mind would be fucked. If all his memories that are filled with suffering and tragedy were to come back rushing to him, he's gonna go insane. No person can handle all that pain in an instant. So right now Haise's in a delicate position. Him remembering his past will come with lots of pain. So the question is how will he recover from it? I agree with anikaneki that possibly he will regain it little by little, so that very thing you are talking doesnt happen. |
| "It's like Tolstoy said. Happiness is an allegory, unhappiness a story" "And the sense of tragedy-according to Aristotle.comes, ironically enough, not from the protagonist's weak points but from his good qualities. Do you know what I'm getting at? People are drawn deeper into tragedy not by their defects but by their virtues" Kafka on the shore by Haruki Murakami...the man that was the inspiration for Sen Takatsuki |
Jan 29, 2015 11:49 PM
#117
Jan 30, 2015 2:20 AM
#118
Z4k said: November 11 is remembrance day so I can't help but think there will be a massive amount of body counts this time. hmm... Maybe since the guy from Germany said it... (beware this is some heavy reading) This was from a wikipedia article I saw searching Germany and November 11 The carnival session, also known as the "Fifth Season", begins each year on 11 November at 11:11 a.m. and finishes on Ash Wednesday of the following year with the main festivities happening around "Rosenmontag" (Rose Monday). Although the festivities and parties start as early as the beginning of January, the actual carnival week starts on the Thursday ("Weiberfastnacht") before Ash Wednesday (in Germany). The big German carnival parades are held on the weekend before and especially on Rosenmontag, the day before Shrove Tuesday, and sometimes also on Shrove Tuesday ("Faschingsdienstag") itself in the suburbs of larger carnival cities. In Austria, festivities tend to culminate sooner, on "Faschingsamstag", the Saturday before Rosenmontag. I just wanted to take a moment the "starts on Jan but actually begins begins right before ash wednesday" I looked at a calender and in germany ash wednesday begins Feb 10th, roughly 2 weeks from now and when the auction was said to take place .-. Also Tokyo Ghoul root A just so happened to begin in Jan lol In the Rhineland festivities developed especially strongly, since it was a way to express subversive anti-Prussian and anti-French thoughts in times of occupation, through parody and mockery. Modern carnival there began in 1823 with the founding of a Carnival Club in Cologne. Most cities and villages of the Rhineland have their own individual carnival traditions. Nationally famous are the carnival in Cologne (Köln), Düsseldorf and Mainz. In the Rhineland, the culmination of the carnival around Rosenmontag is considered to be the "fifth season of the year". Clubs organize "sessions" which are show events called Sitzung with club members or invited guests performing dance, comedy and songs in costumes. The most frequently performed piece of music during such "sessions" is the "Narrhallamarsch". The committee that organizes the events in each town consists of a president and 10 junior members and is called the "Council of Eleven" or "Elferrat." -snipped uncited part- The carnival spirit is then temporarily suspended during Advent and Christmas, and picks up again in earnest in the New Year. The time of merrymaking in the streets is officially declared open at the Alter Markt during the Cologne Carnival on the Thursday before the beginning of Lent. The main event is the street carnival that takes place in the period between the Thursday before Ash Wednesday and Ash Wednesday. Carnival Thursday is called Altweiber (Old women day) in Düsseldorf or Wieverfastelovend (The women's day) in Cologne. This celebrates the beginning of the "female presence in carnival", which began in 1824, when washer-women celebrated a "workless day" on the Thursday before carnival. They founded a committee in 1824 to strengthen their presence in the still male-dominated carnival celebrations. In each city, a woman in black storms the city hall to get the "key" for the city-/townhalls from its mayor. In many places "fools" take over city halls or municipal government and "wild" women cut men's ties wherever they get hold of them. Also, as a tradition, women are allowed to kiss every man who passes their way. On the following days, there are parades in the street organized by the local carnival clubs. The highlight of the carnival period however is Rose Monday (Rosenmontag). Although Rose Monday is not an official holiday in the Rhineland, in practice most public life comes to a halt and almost all workplaces are closed. The biggest parades are on Rose Monday, the famous Rosenmontagsumzug (Rose Monday Parade), e.g. in Cologne, Düsseldorf, Mainz, and many other cities. During these events, hundreds of thousands of people celebrate in the streets, even if temperatures are low, most of them dressed up in costumes. Many regions have special carnival cries (Cologne, Bonn and Aachen: Alaaf!; Düsseldorf and Mainz: Helau!). The carnival in the Netherlands is partially derived from the Rhenish carnival. Carnival in German is Karneval which comes from the Latin word "carnem levare" which means "taking leave with meat" The part where I underlined, in a different article they mentioned that they wore masks that day. Also Narrhallamarsch means "jester's heaven" ................... The Mainz article has clown imagry in it... and it also mentions that during the 15th century there was "an unorganized Volksfest comprising masquerade, meals, drinking and dancing during day and night" where "the celebrants engaging in crude jokes or, under the protection of their masks, excessive quarrelling." Advent in Latin (adventus) means "coming" and that in Catholic religion it begins the 6th Sunday before Christmas. This arc started on Christmas right? and the 6th chapter was when it was officially revealed that Haise was Kaneki :D Also Advent is associated with a period of fastening....... hm.... advent said: The theme of readings and teachings during Advent is often the preparation for the Second Coming, while also commemorating the First Coming of Christ at Christmas. The first clear references in the Western Church to Advent occur in the Gelasian Sacramentary, which provides Advent Collects, Epistles, and Gospels for the five Sundays preceding Christmas and for the corresponding Wednesdays and Fridays. While the Sunday readings relate to the first coming of Jesus Christ as savior as well as to his second coming as judge, traditions vary in the relative importance of penitence and expectation during the weeks in Advent. also interestingly... , Advent begins on the sixth Sunday before Christmas, the Sunday after St. Martin's Day (11 November) Nov 11th is mentioned again here. St. Martins day is a day of Feasting.... and an annual day of slaughter of fattened cattle...... article said: November 11 is the feast day of St. Martin of Tours, who started out as a Roman soldier. He was baptized as an adult and became a monk. It is understood that he was a kind man who led a quiet and simple life. Roman Soldier = Investigator [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_of_Tours]St Martins[url] = Haise (idk I'm gonna wait and see how many parallels Haise has) The "Swabian-Alemannic" carnival is known as Fastnacht, where Fast(en)-Nacht means the eve of the Fastenzeit (lent). Variants of the name are Fasnet, Fasnacht or Fasent. This celebration begins on January 6 (Epiphany/Three Kings Day). Fastnacht is held in Baden-Württemberg, parts of Bavaria, and Alsace. Switzerland and Vorarlberg, in Austria, also hold this celebration. The festival starts on the Thursday before Ash Wednesday, known in these regions as Schmutziger Donnerstag, Schmutzige-Dunschdig or Fettdonnerstag. In standard German, schmutzig means "dirty", but actually the name is from the local dialect where schmotzig means "fat." In comparison, Carnival in New Orleans celebrates Fat Tuesday or Shrove Tuesday, reflecting the practice of the last night of eating richer, fatty foods before Ash Wednesday, the start of the ritual fasting of the Lenten season. Also, in Germany, this is the time of year at the end of winter when the last of the meat from the previous year is the Schmalz, also spelled Schmaltz, or rendered fat, and this is consumed before the start of Lent. The name - Fasnacht - in its different variations is the reference to the time before the coming fasting time of Lent. In particular regions of Tyrol, Salzburg and Bavaria traditional processions of the Perchten welcome the springtime. The Schönperchten ("beautiful Perchts") represent the birth of new life in the awakening nature, the Schiachperchten ("ugly Perchts") represent the dark spirits of wintertime. Farmers yearn for warmer weather and the Perchtenlauf (Run of Perchts) is a magical expression of that desire. The nights between winter and spring, when evil ghosts are supposed to go around, are also called Rauhnächte. Also "Perchten Welcome" in the later article was link that led me to a goddess named "Perchta" , Kamishiro Rize (神代 利世) is literally written with the kanji for god. Perchta was at first seen as someone benevolent (as kaneki did in the first chapters) but was then seen as someone malevolent (again as Rize is perceived) This can all be farfetched as far as connections go though. Dammit Ishida is making me read too much into things. These articles are making it sound like when Haise goes the club Pierrot will be there to wake up Kaneki and it may or may not be permanent .-. (maybe not since the Karneval doesn't last forever ._. and it's even suspended on certain days) |
-LuhuiJan 30, 2015 2:24 AM
Jan 30, 2015 2:41 AM
#119
-Luhui said: Z4k said: November 11 is remembrance day so I can't help but think there will be a massive amount of body counts this time. hmm... Maybe since the guy from Germany said it... (beware this is some heavy reading) This was from a wikipedia article I saw searching Germany and November 11 The carnival session, also known as the "Fifth Season", begins each year on 11 November at 11:11 a.m. and finishes on Ash Wednesday of the following year with the main festivities happening around "Rosenmontag" (Rose Monday). Although the festivities and parties start as early as the beginning of January, the actual carnival week starts on the Thursday ("Weiberfastnacht") before Ash Wednesday (in Germany). The big German carnival parades are held on the weekend before and especially on Rosenmontag, the day before Shrove Tuesday, and sometimes also on Shrove Tuesday ("Faschingsdienstag") itself in the suburbs of larger carnival cities. In Austria, festivities tend to culminate sooner, on "Faschingsamstag", the Saturday before Rosenmontag. I just wanted to take a moment the "starts on Jan but actually begins begins right before ash wednesday" I looked at a calender and in germany ash wednesday begins Feb 10th, roughly 2 weeks from now and when the auction was said to take place .-. Also Tokyo Ghoul root A just so happened to begin in Jan lol In the Rhineland festivities developed especially strongly, since it was a way to express subversive anti-Prussian and anti-French thoughts in times of occupation, through parody and mockery. Modern carnival there began in 1823 with the founding of a Carnival Club in Cologne. Most cities and villages of the Rhineland have their own individual carnival traditions. Nationally famous are the carnival in Cologne (Köln), Düsseldorf and Mainz. In the Rhineland, the culmination of the carnival around Rosenmontag is considered to be the "fifth season of the year". Clubs organize "sessions" which are show events called Sitzung with club members or invited guests performing dance, comedy and songs in costumes. The most frequently performed piece of music during such "sessions" is the "Narrhallamarsch". The committee that organizes the events in each town consists of a president and 10 junior members and is called the "Council of Eleven" or "Elferrat." -snipped uncited part- The carnival spirit is then temporarily suspended during Advent and Christmas, and picks up again in earnest in the New Year. The time of merrymaking in the streets is officially declared open at the Alter Markt during the Cologne Carnival on the Thursday before the beginning of Lent. The main event is the street carnival that takes place in the period between the Thursday before Ash Wednesday and Ash Wednesday. Carnival Thursday is called Altweiber (Old women day) in Düsseldorf or Wieverfastelovend (The women's day) in Cologne. This celebrates the beginning of the "female presence in carnival", which began in 1824, when washer-women celebrated a "workless day" on the Thursday before carnival. They founded a committee in 1824 to strengthen their presence in the still male-dominated carnival celebrations. In each city, a woman in black storms the city hall to get the "key" for the city-/townhalls from its mayor. In many places "fools" take over city halls or municipal government and "wild" women cut men's ties wherever they get hold of them. Also, as a tradition, women are allowed to kiss every man who passes their way. On the following days, there are parades in the street organized by the local carnival clubs. The highlight of the carnival period however is Rose Monday (Rosenmontag). Although Rose Monday is not an official holiday in the Rhineland, in practice most public life comes to a halt and almost all workplaces are closed. The biggest parades are on Rose Monday, the famous Rosenmontagsumzug (Rose Monday Parade), e.g. in Cologne, Düsseldorf, Mainz, and many other cities. During these events, hundreds of thousands of people celebrate in the streets, even if temperatures are low, most of them dressed up in costumes. Many regions have special carnival cries (Cologne, Bonn and Aachen: Alaaf!; Düsseldorf and Mainz: Helau!). The carnival in the Netherlands is partially derived from the Rhenish carnival. Carnival in German is Karneval which comes from the Latin word "carnem levare" which means "taking leave with meat" The part where I underlined, in a different article they mentioned that they wore masks that day. Also Narrhallamarsch means "jester's heaven" ................... The Mainz article has clown imagry in it... and it also mentions that during the 15th century there was "an unorganized Volksfest comprising masquerade, meals, drinking and dancing during day and night" where "the celebrants engaging in crude jokes or, under the protection of their masks, excessive quarrelling." Advent in Latin (adventus) means "coming" and that in Catholic religion it begins the 6th Sunday before Christmas. This arc started on Christmas right? and the 6th chapter was when it was officially revealed that Haise was Kaneki :D Also Advent is associated with a period of fastening....... hm.... advent said: The theme of readings and teachings during Advent is often the preparation for the Second Coming, while also commemorating the First Coming of Christ at Christmas. The first clear references in the Western Church to Advent occur in the Gelasian Sacramentary, which provides Advent Collects, Epistles, and Gospels for the five Sundays preceding Christmas and for the corresponding Wednesdays and Fridays. While the Sunday readings relate to the first coming of Jesus Christ as savior as well as to his second coming as judge, traditions vary in the relative importance of penitence and expectation during the weeks in Advent. also interestingly... , Advent begins on the sixth Sunday before Christmas, the Sunday after St. Martin's Day (11 November) Nov 11th is mentioned again here. St. Martins day is a day of Feasting.... and an annual day of slaughter of fattened cattle...... article said: November 11 is the feast day of St. Martin of Tours, who started out as a Roman soldier. He was baptized as an adult and became a monk. It is understood that he was a kind man who led a quiet and simple life. Roman Soldier = Investigator [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_of_Tours]St Martins[url] = Haise (idk I'm gonna wait and see how many parallels Haise has) The "Swabian-Alemannic" carnival is known as Fastnacht, where Fast(en)-Nacht means the eve of the Fastenzeit (lent). Variants of the name are Fasnet, Fasnacht or Fasent. This celebration begins on January 6 (Epiphany/Three Kings Day). Fastnacht is held in Baden-Württemberg, parts of Bavaria, and Alsace. Switzerland and Vorarlberg, in Austria, also hold this celebration. The festival starts on the Thursday before Ash Wednesday, known in these regions as Schmutziger Donnerstag, Schmutzige-Dunschdig or Fettdonnerstag. In standard German, schmutzig means "dirty", but actually the name is from the local dialect where schmotzig means "fat." In comparison, Carnival in New Orleans celebrates Fat Tuesday or Shrove Tuesday, reflecting the practice of the last night of eating richer, fatty foods before Ash Wednesday, the start of the ritual fasting of the Lenten season. Also, in Germany, this is the time of year at the end of winter when the last of the meat from the previous year is the Schmalz, also spelled Schmaltz, or rendered fat, and this is consumed before the start of Lent. The name - Fasnacht - in its different variations is the reference to the time before the coming fasting time of Lent. In particular regions of Tyrol, Salzburg and Bavaria traditional processions of the Perchten welcome the springtime. The Schönperchten ("beautiful Perchts") represent the birth of new life in the awakening nature, the Schiachperchten ("ugly Perchts") represent the dark spirits of wintertime. Farmers yearn for warmer weather and the Perchtenlauf (Run of Perchts) is a magical expression of that desire. The nights between winter and spring, when evil ghosts are supposed to go around, are also called Rauhnächte. Also "Perchten Welcome" in the later article was link that led me to a goddess named "Perchta" , Kamishiro Rize (神代 利世) is literally written with the kanji for god. Perchta was at first seen as someone benevolent (as kaneki did in the first chapters) but was then seen as someone malevolent (again as Rize is perceived) This can all be farfetched as far as connections go though. Dammit Ishida is making me read too much into things. These articles are making it sound like when Haise goes the club Pierrot will be there to wake up Kaneki and it may or may not be permanent .-. (maybe not since the Karneval doesn't last forever ._. and it's even suspended on certain days) O_O Wow seems like someone did their homework. I knew Ishida put that 11 november date for a very good reason and now its almost certain something bad will be happening to Haise. Lol its amazing how that date alone foreshadows so many events that have yet to happen. |
Jan 30, 2015 6:10 AM
#120
Z4k said: -Luhui said: Z4k said: November 11 is remembrance day so I can't help but think there will be a massive amount of body counts this time. hmm... Maybe since the guy from Germany said it... (beware this is some heavy reading) This was from a wikipedia article I saw searching Germany and November 11 The carnival session, also known as the "Fifth Season", begins each year on 11 November at 11:11 a.m. and finishes on Ash Wednesday of the following year with the main festivities happening around "Rosenmontag" (Rose Monday). Although the festivities and parties start as early as the beginning of January, the actual carnival week starts on the Thursday ("Weiberfastnacht") before Ash Wednesday (in Germany). The big German carnival parades are held on the weekend before and especially on Rosenmontag, the day before Shrove Tuesday, and sometimes also on Shrove Tuesday ("Faschingsdienstag") itself in the suburbs of larger carnival cities. In Austria, festivities tend to culminate sooner, on "Faschingsamstag", the Saturday before Rosenmontag. I just wanted to take a moment the "starts on Jan but actually begins begins right before ash wednesday" I looked at a calender and in germany ash wednesday begins Feb 10th, roughly 2 weeks from now and when the auction was said to take place .-. Also Tokyo Ghoul root A just so happened to begin in Jan lol In the Rhineland festivities developed especially strongly, since it was a way to express subversive anti-Prussian and anti-French thoughts in times of occupation, through parody and mockery. Modern carnival there began in 1823 with the founding of a Carnival Club in Cologne. Most cities and villages of the Rhineland have their own individual carnival traditions. Nationally famous are the carnival in Cologne (Köln), Düsseldorf and Mainz. In the Rhineland, the culmination of the carnival around Rosenmontag is considered to be the "fifth season of the year". Clubs organize "sessions" which are show events called Sitzung with club members or invited guests performing dance, comedy and songs in costumes. The most frequently performed piece of music during such "sessions" is the "Narrhallamarsch". The committee that organizes the events in each town consists of a president and 10 junior members and is called the "Council of Eleven" or "Elferrat." -snipped uncited part- The carnival spirit is then temporarily suspended during Advent and Christmas, and picks up again in earnest in the New Year. The time of merrymaking in the streets is officially declared open at the Alter Markt during the Cologne Carnival on the Thursday before the beginning of Lent. The main event is the street carnival that takes place in the period between the Thursday before Ash Wednesday and Ash Wednesday. Carnival Thursday is called Altweiber (Old women day) in Düsseldorf or Wieverfastelovend (The women's day) in Cologne. This celebrates the beginning of the "female presence in carnival", which began in 1824, when washer-women celebrated a "workless day" on the Thursday before carnival. They founded a committee in 1824 to strengthen their presence in the still male-dominated carnival celebrations. In each city, a woman in black storms the city hall to get the "key" for the city-/townhalls from its mayor. In many places "fools" take over city halls or municipal government and "wild" women cut men's ties wherever they get hold of them. Also, as a tradition, women are allowed to kiss every man who passes their way. On the following days, there are parades in the street organized by the local carnival clubs. The highlight of the carnival period however is Rose Monday (Rosenmontag). Although Rose Monday is not an official holiday in the Rhineland, in practice most public life comes to a halt and almost all workplaces are closed. The biggest parades are on Rose Monday, the famous Rosenmontagsumzug (Rose Monday Parade), e.g. in Cologne, Düsseldorf, Mainz, and many other cities. During these events, hundreds of thousands of people celebrate in the streets, even if temperatures are low, most of them dressed up in costumes. Many regions have special carnival cries (Cologne, Bonn and Aachen: Alaaf!; Düsseldorf and Mainz: Helau!). The carnival in the Netherlands is partially derived from the Rhenish carnival. Carnival in German is Karneval which comes from the Latin word "carnem levare" which means "taking leave with meat" The part where I underlined, in a different article they mentioned that they wore masks that day. Also Narrhallamarsch means "jester's heaven" ................... The Mainz article has clown imagry in it... and it also mentions that during the 15th century there was "an unorganized Volksfest comprising masquerade, meals, drinking and dancing during day and night" where "the celebrants engaging in crude jokes or, under the protection of their masks, excessive quarrelling." Advent in Latin (adventus) means "coming" and that in Catholic religion it begins the 6th Sunday before Christmas. This arc started on Christmas right? and the 6th chapter was when it was officially revealed that Haise was Kaneki :D Also Advent is associated with a period of fastening....... hm.... advent said: The theme of readings and teachings during Advent is often the preparation for the Second Coming, while also commemorating the First Coming of Christ at Christmas. The first clear references in the Western Church to Advent occur in the Gelasian Sacramentary, which provides Advent Collects, Epistles, and Gospels for the five Sundays preceding Christmas and for the corresponding Wednesdays and Fridays. While the Sunday readings relate to the first coming of Jesus Christ as savior as well as to his second coming as judge, traditions vary in the relative importance of penitence and expectation during the weeks in Advent. also interestingly... , Advent begins on the sixth Sunday before Christmas, the Sunday after St. Martin's Day (11 November) Nov 11th is mentioned again here. St. Martins day is a day of Feasting.... and an annual day of slaughter of fattened cattle...... article said: November 11 is the feast day of St. Martin of Tours, who started out as a Roman soldier. He was baptized as an adult and became a monk. It is understood that he was a kind man who led a quiet and simple life. Roman Soldier = Investigator [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_of_Tours]St Martins[url] = Haise (idk I'm gonna wait and see how many parallels Haise has) The "Swabian-Alemannic" carnival is known as Fastnacht, where Fast(en)-Nacht means the eve of the Fastenzeit (lent). Variants of the name are Fasnet, Fasnacht or Fasent. This celebration begins on January 6 (Epiphany/Three Kings Day). Fastnacht is held in Baden-Württemberg, parts of Bavaria, and Alsace. Switzerland and Vorarlberg, in Austria, also hold this celebration. The festival starts on the Thursday before Ash Wednesday, known in these regions as Schmutziger Donnerstag, Schmutzige-Dunschdig or Fettdonnerstag. In standard German, schmutzig means "dirty", but actually the name is from the local dialect where schmotzig means "fat." In comparison, Carnival in New Orleans celebrates Fat Tuesday or Shrove Tuesday, reflecting the practice of the last night of eating richer, fatty foods before Ash Wednesday, the start of the ritual fasting of the Lenten season. Also, in Germany, this is the time of year at the end of winter when the last of the meat from the previous year is the Schmalz, also spelled Schmaltz, or rendered fat, and this is consumed before the start of Lent. The name - Fasnacht - in its different variations is the reference to the time before the coming fasting time of Lent. In particular regions of Tyrol, Salzburg and Bavaria traditional processions of the Perchten welcome the springtime. The Schönperchten ("beautiful Perchts") represent the birth of new life in the awakening nature, the Schiachperchten ("ugly Perchts") represent the dark spirits of wintertime. Farmers yearn for warmer weather and the Perchtenlauf (Run of Perchts) is a magical expression of that desire. The nights between winter and spring, when evil ghosts are supposed to go around, are also called Rauhnächte. Also "Perchten Welcome" in the later article was link that led me to a goddess named "Perchta" , Kamishiro Rize (神代 利世) is literally written with the kanji for god. Perchta was at first seen as someone benevolent (as kaneki did in the first chapters) but was then seen as someone malevolent (again as Rize is perceived) This can all be farfetched as far as connections go though. Dammit Ishida is making me read too much into things. These articles are making it sound like when Haise goes the club Pierrot will be there to wake up Kaneki and it may or may not be permanent .-. (maybe not since the Karneval doesn't last forever ._. and it's even suspended on certain days) O_O Wow seems like someone did their homework. I knew Ishida put that 11 november date for a very good reason and now its almost certain something bad will be happening to Haise. Lol its amazing how that date alone foreshadows so many events that have yet to happen. Can some1 sum that thing up cause it too fucking much to read? |
Jan 30, 2015 7:19 AM
#121
FrozenRemains said: Z4k said: -Luhui said: Z4k said: November 11 is remembrance day so I can't help but think there will be a massive amount of body counts this time. hmm... Maybe since the guy from Germany said it... (beware this is some heavy reading) This was from a wikipedia article I saw searching Germany and November 11 The carnival session, also known as the "Fifth Season", begins each year on 11 November at 11:11 a.m. and finishes on Ash Wednesday of the following year with the main festivities happening around "Rosenmontag" (Rose Monday). Although the festivities and parties start as early as the beginning of January, the actual carnival week starts on the Thursday ("Weiberfastnacht") before Ash Wednesday (in Germany). The big German carnival parades are held on the weekend before and especially on Rosenmontag, the day before Shrove Tuesday, and sometimes also on Shrove Tuesday ("Faschingsdienstag") itself in the suburbs of larger carnival cities. In Austria, festivities tend to culminate sooner, on "Faschingsamstag", the Saturday before Rosenmontag. I just wanted to take a moment the "starts on Jan but actually begins begins right before ash wednesday" I looked at a calender and in germany ash wednesday begins Feb 10th, roughly 2 weeks from now and when the auction was said to take place .-. Also Tokyo Ghoul root A just so happened to begin in Jan lol In the Rhineland festivities developed especially strongly, since it was a way to express subversive anti-Prussian and anti-French thoughts in times of occupation, through parody and mockery. Modern carnival there began in 1823 with the founding of a Carnival Club in Cologne. Most cities and villages of the Rhineland have their own individual carnival traditions. Nationally famous are the carnival in Cologne (Köln), Düsseldorf and Mainz. In the Rhineland, the culmination of the carnival around Rosenmontag is considered to be the "fifth season of the year". Clubs organize "sessions" which are show events called Sitzung with club members or invited guests performing dance, comedy and songs in costumes. The most frequently performed piece of music during such "sessions" is the "Narrhallamarsch". The committee that organizes the events in each town consists of a president and 10 junior members and is called the "Council of Eleven" or "Elferrat." -snipped uncited part- The carnival spirit is then temporarily suspended during Advent and Christmas, and picks up again in earnest in the New Year. The time of merrymaking in the streets is officially declared open at the Alter Markt during the Cologne Carnival on the Thursday before the beginning of Lent. The main event is the street carnival that takes place in the period between the Thursday before Ash Wednesday and Ash Wednesday. Carnival Thursday is called Altweiber (Old women day) in Düsseldorf or Wieverfastelovend (The women's day) in Cologne. This celebrates the beginning of the "female presence in carnival", which began in 1824, when washer-women celebrated a "workless day" on the Thursday before carnival. They founded a committee in 1824 to strengthen their presence in the still male-dominated carnival celebrations. In each city, a woman in black storms the city hall to get the "key" for the city-/townhalls from its mayor. In many places "fools" take over city halls or municipal government and "wild" women cut men's ties wherever they get hold of them. Also, as a tradition, women are allowed to kiss every man who passes their way. On the following days, there are parades in the street organized by the local carnival clubs. The highlight of the carnival period however is Rose Monday (Rosenmontag). Although Rose Monday is not an official holiday in the Rhineland, in practice most public life comes to a halt and almost all workplaces are closed. The biggest parades are on Rose Monday, the famous Rosenmontagsumzug (Rose Monday Parade), e.g. in Cologne, Düsseldorf, Mainz, and many other cities. During these events, hundreds of thousands of people celebrate in the streets, even if temperatures are low, most of them dressed up in costumes. Many regions have special carnival cries (Cologne, Bonn and Aachen: Alaaf!; Düsseldorf and Mainz: Helau!). The carnival in the Netherlands is partially derived from the Rhenish carnival. Carnival in German is Karneval which comes from the Latin word "carnem levare" which means "taking leave with meat" The part where I underlined, in a different article they mentioned that they wore masks that day. Also Narrhallamarsch means "jester's heaven" ................... The Mainz article has clown imagry in it... and it also mentions that during the 15th century there was "an unorganized Volksfest comprising masquerade, meals, drinking and dancing during day and night" where "the celebrants engaging in crude jokes or, under the protection of their masks, excessive quarrelling." Advent in Latin (adventus) means "coming" and that in Catholic religion it begins the 6th Sunday before Christmas. This arc started on Christmas right? and the 6th chapter was when it was officially revealed that Haise was Kaneki :D Also Advent is associated with a period of fastening....... hm.... advent said: The theme of readings and teachings during Advent is often the preparation for the Second Coming, while also commemorating the First Coming of Christ at Christmas. The first clear references in the Western Church to Advent occur in the Gelasian Sacramentary, which provides Advent Collects, Epistles, and Gospels for the five Sundays preceding Christmas and for the corresponding Wednesdays and Fridays. While the Sunday readings relate to the first coming of Jesus Christ as savior as well as to his second coming as judge, traditions vary in the relative importance of penitence and expectation during the weeks in Advent. also interestingly... , Advent begins on the sixth Sunday before Christmas, the Sunday after St. Martin's Day (11 November) Nov 11th is mentioned again here. St. Martins day is a day of Feasting.... and an annual day of slaughter of fattened cattle...... article said: November 11 is the feast day of St. Martin of Tours, who started out as a Roman soldier. He was baptized as an adult and became a monk. It is understood that he was a kind man who led a quiet and simple life. Roman Soldier = Investigator [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_of_Tours]St Martins[url] = Haise (idk I'm gonna wait and see how many parallels Haise has) The "Swabian-Alemannic" carnival is known as Fastnacht, where Fast(en)-Nacht means the eve of the Fastenzeit (lent). Variants of the name are Fasnet, Fasnacht or Fasent. This celebration begins on January 6 (Epiphany/Three Kings Day). Fastnacht is held in Baden-Württemberg, parts of Bavaria, and Alsace. Switzerland and Vorarlberg, in Austria, also hold this celebration. The festival starts on the Thursday before Ash Wednesday, known in these regions as Schmutziger Donnerstag, Schmutzige-Dunschdig or Fettdonnerstag. In standard German, schmutzig means "dirty", but actually the name is from the local dialect where schmotzig means "fat." In comparison, Carnival in New Orleans celebrates Fat Tuesday or Shrove Tuesday, reflecting the practice of the last night of eating richer, fatty foods before Ash Wednesday, the start of the ritual fasting of the Lenten season. Also, in Germany, this is the time of year at the end of winter when the last of the meat from the previous year is the Schmalz, also spelled Schmaltz, or rendered fat, and this is consumed before the start of Lent. The name - Fasnacht - in its different variations is the reference to the time before the coming fasting time of Lent. In particular regions of Tyrol, Salzburg and Bavaria traditional processions of the Perchten welcome the springtime. The Schönperchten ("beautiful Perchts") represent the birth of new life in the awakening nature, the Schiachperchten ("ugly Perchts") represent the dark spirits of wintertime. Farmers yearn for warmer weather and the Perchtenlauf (Run of Perchts) is a magical expression of that desire. The nights between winter and spring, when evil ghosts are supposed to go around, are also called Rauhnächte. Also "Perchten Welcome" in the later article was link that led me to a goddess named "Perchta" , Kamishiro Rize (神代 利世) is literally written with the kanji for god. Perchta was at first seen as someone benevolent (as kaneki did in the first chapters) but was then seen as someone malevolent (again as Rize is perceived) This can all be farfetched as far as connections go though. Dammit Ishida is making me read too much into things. These articles are making it sound like when Haise goes the club Pierrot will be there to wake up Kaneki and it may or may not be permanent .-. (maybe not since the Karneval doesn't last forever ._. and it's even suspended on certain days) O_O Wow seems like someone did their homework. I knew Ishida put that 11 november date for a very good reason and now its almost certain something bad will be happening to Haise. Lol its amazing how that date alone foreshadows so many events that have yet to happen. Can some1 sum that thing up cause it too fucking much to read? Just talks about some carnaval that happens in germany the november 11 What it has to do with TG...I don't know except for the date I don't see anything that relates to it. Unless the poster thinka the auction is going to be a carnival or something like that. And I would like to add that the person who said it (Matsuri) is a japanese man, he just happened to worked for a time with the Germany CCG. And he just repeat it the day of the auction he did not decided on it, the ghouls did. So unless the ghouls are from germany or germany fans, I doubt they are referring to WWI or the carnival. oh and also "In 1999, Ezaki Glico Co Ltd decided that November 11 would be “Pocky & Pretz Day” (the shape of the popular stick snacks resembles the number 1) and it was recognized by the Japan Anniversary Association. Each year on November 11, Ezaki Glico carries out a campaign to thank its customers." Just something funny I found since it seems everyone is looking for a meaning on the date and there is also the 11th tarot card...strength and its also the sign of scorpio. Just something that I am putting out there for others to analyze if they want. Personally I think its just a date...but in TG there's always a possibility that is a millions of things :D |
gabyta07Jan 30, 2015 7:36 AM
| "It's like Tolstoy said. Happiness is an allegory, unhappiness a story" "And the sense of tragedy-according to Aristotle.comes, ironically enough, not from the protagonist's weak points but from his good qualities. Do you know what I'm getting at? People are drawn deeper into tragedy not by their defects but by their virtues" Kafka on the shore by Haruki Murakami...the man that was the inspiration for Sen Takatsuki |
Jan 30, 2015 7:31 AM
#122
FrozenRemains said: Z4k said: -Luhui said: Z4k said: November 11 is remembrance day so I can't help but think there will be a massive amount of body counts this time. hmm... Maybe since the guy from Germany said it... (beware this is some heavy reading) This was from a wikipedia article I saw searching Germany and November 11 The carnival session, also known as the "Fifth Season", begins each year on 11 November at 11:11 a.m. and finishes on Ash Wednesday of the following year with the main festivities happening around "Rosenmontag" (Rose Monday). Although the festivities and parties start as early as the beginning of January, the actual carnival week starts on the Thursday ("Weiberfastnacht") before Ash Wednesday (in Germany). The big German carnival parades are held on the weekend before and especially on Rosenmontag, the day before Shrove Tuesday, and sometimes also on Shrove Tuesday ("Faschingsdienstag") itself in the suburbs of larger carnival cities. In Austria, festivities tend to culminate sooner, on "Faschingsamstag", the Saturday before Rosenmontag. I just wanted to take a moment the "starts on Jan but actually begins begins right before ash wednesday" I looked at a calender and in germany ash wednesday begins Feb 10th, roughly 2 weeks from now and when the auction was said to take place .-. Also Tokyo Ghoul root A just so happened to begin in Jan lol In the Rhineland festivities developed especially strongly, since it was a way to express subversive anti-Prussian and anti-French thoughts in times of occupation, through parody and mockery. Modern carnival there began in 1823 with the founding of a Carnival Club in Cologne. Most cities and villages of the Rhineland have their own individual carnival traditions. Nationally famous are the carnival in Cologne (Köln), Düsseldorf and Mainz. In the Rhineland, the culmination of the carnival around Rosenmontag is considered to be the "fifth season of the year". Clubs organize "sessions" which are show events called Sitzung with club members or invited guests performing dance, comedy and songs in costumes. The most frequently performed piece of music during such "sessions" is the "Narrhallamarsch". The committee that organizes the events in each town consists of a president and 10 junior members and is called the "Council of Eleven" or "Elferrat." -snipped uncited part- The carnival spirit is then temporarily suspended during Advent and Christmas, and picks up again in earnest in the New Year. The time of merrymaking in the streets is officially declared open at the Alter Markt during the Cologne Carnival on the Thursday before the beginning of Lent. The main event is the street carnival that takes place in the period between the Thursday before Ash Wednesday and Ash Wednesday. Carnival Thursday is called Altweiber (Old women day) in Düsseldorf or Wieverfastelovend (The women's day) in Cologne. This celebrates the beginning of the "female presence in carnival", which began in 1824, when washer-women celebrated a "workless day" on the Thursday before carnival. They founded a committee in 1824 to strengthen their presence in the still male-dominated carnival celebrations. In each city, a woman in black storms the city hall to get the "key" for the city-/townhalls from its mayor. In many places "fools" take over city halls or municipal government and "wild" women cut men's ties wherever they get hold of them. Also, as a tradition, women are allowed to kiss every man who passes their way. On the following days, there are parades in the street organized by the local carnival clubs. The highlight of the carnival period however is Rose Monday (Rosenmontag). Although Rose Monday is not an official holiday in the Rhineland, in practice most public life comes to a halt and almost all workplaces are closed. The biggest parades are on Rose Monday, the famous Rosenmontagsumzug (Rose Monday Parade), e.g. in Cologne, Düsseldorf, Mainz, and many other cities. During these events, hundreds of thousands of people celebrate in the streets, even if temperatures are low, most of them dressed up in costumes. Many regions have special carnival cries (Cologne, Bonn and Aachen: Alaaf!; Düsseldorf and Mainz: Helau!). The carnival in the Netherlands is partially derived from the Rhenish carnival. Carnival in German is Karneval which comes from the Latin word "carnem levare" which means "taking leave with meat" The part where I underlined, in a different article they mentioned that they wore masks that day. Also Narrhallamarsch means "jester's heaven" ................... The Mainz article has clown imagry in it... and it also mentions that during the 15th century there was "an unorganized Volksfest comprising masquerade, meals, drinking and dancing during day and night" where "the celebrants engaging in crude jokes or, under the protection of their masks, excessive quarrelling." Advent in Latin (adventus) means "coming" and that in Catholic religion it begins the 6th Sunday before Christmas. This arc started on Christmas right? and the 6th chapter was when it was officially revealed that Haise was Kaneki :D Also Advent is associated with a period of fastening....... hm.... advent said: The theme of readings and teachings during Advent is often the preparation for the Second Coming, while also commemorating the First Coming of Christ at Christmas. The first clear references in the Western Church to Advent occur in the Gelasian Sacramentary, which provides Advent Collects, Epistles, and Gospels for the five Sundays preceding Christmas and for the corresponding Wednesdays and Fridays. While the Sunday readings relate to the first coming of Jesus Christ as savior as well as to his second coming as judge, traditions vary in the relative importance of penitence and expectation during the weeks in Advent. also interestingly... , Advent begins on the sixth Sunday before Christmas, the Sunday after St. Martin's Day (11 November) Nov 11th is mentioned again here. St. Martins day is a day of Feasting.... and an annual day of slaughter of fattened cattle...... article said: November 11 is the feast day of St. Martin of Tours, who started out as a Roman soldier. He was baptized as an adult and became a monk. It is understood that he was a kind man who led a quiet and simple life. Roman Soldier = Investigator [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_of_Tours]St Martins[url] = Haise (idk I'm gonna wait and see how many parallels Haise has) The "Swabian-Alemannic" carnival is known as Fastnacht, where Fast(en)-Nacht means the eve of the Fastenzeit (lent). Variants of the name are Fasnet, Fasnacht or Fasent. This celebration begins on January 6 (Epiphany/Three Kings Day). Fastnacht is held in Baden-Württemberg, parts of Bavaria, and Alsace. Switzerland and Vorarlberg, in Austria, also hold this celebration. The festival starts on the Thursday before Ash Wednesday, known in these regions as Schmutziger Donnerstag, Schmutzige-Dunschdig or Fettdonnerstag. In standard German, schmutzig means "dirty", but actually the name is from the local dialect where schmotzig means "fat." In comparison, Carnival in New Orleans celebrates Fat Tuesday or Shrove Tuesday, reflecting the practice of the last night of eating richer, fatty foods before Ash Wednesday, the start of the ritual fasting of the Lenten season. Also, in Germany, this is the time of year at the end of winter when the last of the meat from the previous year is the Schmalz, also spelled Schmaltz, or rendered fat, and this is consumed before the start of Lent. The name - Fasnacht - in its different variations is the reference to the time before the coming fasting time of Lent. In particular regions of Tyrol, Salzburg and Bavaria traditional processions of the Perchten welcome the springtime. The Schönperchten ("beautiful Perchts") represent the birth of new life in the awakening nature, the Schiachperchten ("ugly Perchts") represent the dark spirits of wintertime. Farmers yearn for warmer weather and the Perchtenlauf (Run of Perchts) is a magical expression of that desire. The nights between winter and spring, when evil ghosts are supposed to go around, are also called Rauhnächte. Also "Perchten Welcome" in the later article was link that led me to a goddess named "Perchta" , Kamishiro Rize (神代 利世) is literally written with the kanji for god. Perchta was at first seen as someone benevolent (as kaneki did in the first chapters) but was then seen as someone malevolent (again as Rize is perceived) This can all be farfetched as far as connections go though. Dammit Ishida is making me read too much into things. These articles are making it sound like when Haise goes the club Pierrot will be there to wake up Kaneki and it may or may not be permanent .-. (maybe not since the Karneval doesn't last forever ._. and it's even suspended on certain days) O_O Wow seems like someone did their homework. I knew Ishida put that 11 november date for a very good reason and now its almost certain something bad will be happening to Haise. Lol its amazing how that date alone foreshadows so many events that have yet to happen. Can some1 sum that thing up cause it too fucking much to read? To make it really short, Pierrot will be in the auction and we might see Kaneki returning. |
Jan 30, 2015 8:03 AM
#123
Z4k said: FrozenRemains said: Z4k said: -Luhui said: Z4k said: November 11 is remembrance day so I can't help but think there will be a massive amount of body counts this time. hmm... Maybe since the guy from Germany said it... (beware this is some heavy reading) This was from a wikipedia article I saw searching Germany and November 11 The carnival session, also known as the "Fifth Season", begins each year on 11 November at 11:11 a.m. and finishes on Ash Wednesday of the following year with the main festivities happening around "Rosenmontag" (Rose Monday). Although the festivities and parties start as early as the beginning of January, the actual carnival week starts on the Thursday ("Weiberfastnacht") before Ash Wednesday (in Germany). The big German carnival parades are held on the weekend before and especially on Rosenmontag, the day before Shrove Tuesday, and sometimes also on Shrove Tuesday ("Faschingsdienstag") itself in the suburbs of larger carnival cities. In Austria, festivities tend to culminate sooner, on "Faschingsamstag", the Saturday before Rosenmontag. I just wanted to take a moment the "starts on Jan but actually begins begins right before ash wednesday" I looked at a calender and in germany ash wednesday begins Feb 10th, roughly 2 weeks from now and when the auction was said to take place .-. Also Tokyo Ghoul root A just so happened to begin in Jan lol In the Rhineland festivities developed especially strongly, since it was a way to express subversive anti-Prussian and anti-French thoughts in times of occupation, through parody and mockery. Modern carnival there began in 1823 with the founding of a Carnival Club in Cologne. Most cities and villages of the Rhineland have their own individual carnival traditions. Nationally famous are the carnival in Cologne (Köln), Düsseldorf and Mainz. In the Rhineland, the culmination of the carnival around Rosenmontag is considered to be the "fifth season of the year". Clubs organize "sessions" which are show events called Sitzung with club members or invited guests performing dance, comedy and songs in costumes. The most frequently performed piece of music during such "sessions" is the "Narrhallamarsch". The committee that organizes the events in each town consists of a president and 10 junior members and is called the "Council of Eleven" or "Elferrat." -snipped uncited part- The carnival spirit is then temporarily suspended during Advent and Christmas, and picks up again in earnest in the New Year. The time of merrymaking in the streets is officially declared open at the Alter Markt during the Cologne Carnival on the Thursday before the beginning of Lent. The main event is the street carnival that takes place in the period between the Thursday before Ash Wednesday and Ash Wednesday. Carnival Thursday is called Altweiber (Old women day) in Düsseldorf or Wieverfastelovend (The women's day) in Cologne. This celebrates the beginning of the "female presence in carnival", which began in 1824, when washer-women celebrated a "workless day" on the Thursday before carnival. They founded a committee in 1824 to strengthen their presence in the still male-dominated carnival celebrations. In each city, a woman in black storms the city hall to get the "key" for the city-/townhalls from its mayor. In many places "fools" take over city halls or municipal government and "wild" women cut men's ties wherever they get hold of them. Also, as a tradition, women are allowed to kiss every man who passes their way. On the following days, there are parades in the street organized by the local carnival clubs. The highlight of the carnival period however is Rose Monday (Rosenmontag). Although Rose Monday is not an official holiday in the Rhineland, in practice most public life comes to a halt and almost all workplaces are closed. The biggest parades are on Rose Monday, the famous Rosenmontagsumzug (Rose Monday Parade), e.g. in Cologne, Düsseldorf, Mainz, and many other cities. During these events, hundreds of thousands of people celebrate in the streets, even if temperatures are low, most of them dressed up in costumes. Many regions have special carnival cries (Cologne, Bonn and Aachen: Alaaf!; Düsseldorf and Mainz: Helau!). The carnival in the Netherlands is partially derived from the Rhenish carnival. Carnival in German is Karneval which comes from the Latin word "carnem levare" which means "taking leave with meat" The part where I underlined, in a different article they mentioned that they wore masks that day. Also Narrhallamarsch means "jester's heaven" ................... The Mainz article has clown imagry in it... and it also mentions that during the 15th century there was "an unorganized Volksfest comprising masquerade, meals, drinking and dancing during day and night" where "the celebrants engaging in crude jokes or, under the protection of their masks, excessive quarrelling." Advent in Latin (adventus) means "coming" and that in Catholic religion it begins the 6th Sunday before Christmas. This arc started on Christmas right? and the 6th chapter was when it was officially revealed that Haise was Kaneki :D Also Advent is associated with a period of fastening....... hm.... advent said: The theme of readings and teachings during Advent is often the preparation for the Second Coming, while also commemorating the First Coming of Christ at Christmas. The first clear references in the Western Church to Advent occur in the Gelasian Sacramentary, which provides Advent Collects, Epistles, and Gospels for the five Sundays preceding Christmas and for the corresponding Wednesdays and Fridays. While the Sunday readings relate to the first coming of Jesus Christ as savior as well as to his second coming as judge, traditions vary in the relative importance of penitence and expectation during the weeks in Advent. also interestingly... , Advent begins on the sixth Sunday before Christmas, the Sunday after St. Martin's Day (11 November) Nov 11th is mentioned again here. St. Martins day is a day of Feasting.... and an annual day of slaughter of fattened cattle...... article said: November 11 is the feast day of St. Martin of Tours, who started out as a Roman soldier. He was baptized as an adult and became a monk. It is understood that he was a kind man who led a quiet and simple life. Roman Soldier = Investigator [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_of_Tours]St Martins[url] = Haise (idk I'm gonna wait and see how many parallels Haise has) The "Swabian-Alemannic" carnival is known as Fastnacht, where Fast(en)-Nacht means the eve of the Fastenzeit (lent). Variants of the name are Fasnet, Fasnacht or Fasent. This celebration begins on January 6 (Epiphany/Three Kings Day). Fastnacht is held in Baden-Württemberg, parts of Bavaria, and Alsace. Switzerland and Vorarlberg, in Austria, also hold this celebration. The festival starts on the Thursday before Ash Wednesday, known in these regions as Schmutziger Donnerstag, Schmutzige-Dunschdig or Fettdonnerstag. In standard German, schmutzig means "dirty", but actually the name is from the local dialect where schmotzig means "fat." In comparison, Carnival in New Orleans celebrates Fat Tuesday or Shrove Tuesday, reflecting the practice of the last night of eating richer, fatty foods before Ash Wednesday, the start of the ritual fasting of the Lenten season. Also, in Germany, this is the time of year at the end of winter when the last of the meat from the previous year is the Schmalz, also spelled Schmaltz, or rendered fat, and this is consumed before the start of Lent. The name - Fasnacht - in its different variations is the reference to the time before the coming fasting time of Lent. In particular regions of Tyrol, Salzburg and Bavaria traditional processions of the Perchten welcome the springtime. The Schönperchten ("beautiful Perchts") represent the birth of new life in the awakening nature, the Schiachperchten ("ugly Perchts") represent the dark spirits of wintertime. Farmers yearn for warmer weather and the Perchtenlauf (Run of Perchts) is a magical expression of that desire. The nights between winter and spring, when evil ghosts are supposed to go around, are also called Rauhnächte. Also "Perchten Welcome" in the later article was link that led me to a goddess named "Perchta" , Kamishiro Rize (神代 利世) is literally written with the kanji for god. Perchta was at first seen as someone benevolent (as kaneki did in the first chapters) but was then seen as someone malevolent (again as Rize is perceived) This can all be farfetched as far as connections go though. Dammit Ishida is making me read too much into things. These articles are making it sound like when Haise goes the club Pierrot will be there to wake up Kaneki and it may or may not be permanent .-. (maybe not since the Karneval doesn't last forever ._. and it's even suspended on certain days) O_O Wow seems like someone did their homework. I knew Ishida put that 11 november date for a very good reason and now its almost certain something bad will be happening to Haise. Lol its amazing how that date alone foreshadows so many events that have yet to happen. Can some1 sum that thing up cause it too fucking much to read? To make it really short, Pierrot will be in the auction and we might see Kaneki returning. Also some guy is 100% getting their balls crushed based on the "women cut men's ties" thing and the second coming might also refer to Amon instead of Kaneki. |
Jan 30, 2015 9:37 PM
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| I NEED MORE!!!!!1111!! In all seriousness, I can't wait to see Juuzo have his revenge. And Eto. I have to see Eto. |
Feb 2, 2015 3:37 PM
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Kvothe51 said: THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- Super hyped for the upcoming chapters. +1 |
Feb 19, 2015 11:15 PM
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| The auction draws near. also is my shipping sense tingling? That would be a twist though. Akira x kaneki. Delusional shipping at its best people. Don't be like me. |
Mar 20, 2015 5:09 PM
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| how these too became so close friends.I have to become stronger and protect everyone. deja vu and he failed |
Apr 21, 2015 7:08 AM
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Oct 3, 2015 7:19 PM
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Mar 8, 2016 12:52 AM
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| Looks like Juuzou will get his revenge against Big Madame. Akira gets it. Haise has mercy not because he's a ghoul, and he feels any special inclination towards them, but because he's just too kind. The last time this guy realized the strong are those who lose the least, he mauled and S-ranked ghoul and ate his kakuja kagune. Maybe there'll be some rapid development of Haise's character in the near future... |
Aug 14, 2016 1:06 AM
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CNTRI715 said: Putrescence said: WatIt'd be nice if Sasaki/Kaneki goes full Griffith at the auction. If he then mind-breaks Akira (e.g. rapes her, or seriously hurts her physically), Amon could become his Guts.That'd be great. Eh? So Amon is being resurrected too, now? Not that I wouldn't like to see him again. The Akira x Amon ship getting sunk still rankles a little. I'm really liking the new Suzuya too. Looks like Shinohara's death left a lasting impression on him. I wonder what sort of operation gave him his leg back? Well, if getting stabbed through the skull can be cured in this world, I suppose a lost limb can be re-attached too. I do hope he gets his revenge. The exposition parts were interesting. Ghouls have been around for more than a century, so that might rule out the possibility that some mad geneticist decided to create ghouls to be the natural predators of humanity. Natural evolution being used to explain it would be wrong, too, since evolution doesn't work that quickly. A random mutation wouldn't be this drastic, either. So that leaves just one plausible explanation for the existence of ghouls: Aliens. Or Magic. Or maybe a very convenient kind of virus. |
Nov 18, 2018 4:15 AM
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