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Jan 28, 2015 4:28 PM
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Well, it'd tie up some of the "loose ends" really nice.

Alternatively, Sasaki/Kaneki could kill/eat Touka, which in turn would, most likely, make Yomo, Ayato, and I guess some another people and ghouls quite angry. Plus it'd give Sasaki/Kaneki the "push" that he really needs now.
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@putrescence, and that's why you'll never be even 1 millionth as good a writer as Ishida :(
Akira isn't dying, but some quinckes definitely are.
Jan 28, 2015 6:15 PM

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Putrescence said:
It'd be nice if Sasaki/Kaneki goes full Griffith at the auction. If he then mind-breaks Akira (e.g. rapes her, or seriously hurts her physically), Amon could become his Guts.That'd be great.
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I do not understand this obsession by tragedy, when the manga was supposedly finished, most fans complained about the tragic end, and these were the same fans who wanted more blood, screams and tears.
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@putrescence, and that's why you'll never be even 1 millionth as good a writer as Ishida :(
Akira isn't dying, but some quinckes definitely are.


No dude, that'd be awesome. Just to see everyone cry over Touka
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Jan 29, 2015 12:07 AM
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Ah, the MAL hivemind...I'd forgotten that every opinion deviating from the common opinion is wrong.
Even if it is a valid comparison between two great works.

And thank you, ichii_1. You seem to know me very well, and I appreciate your input. Not that I am trying to become a better author than Ishida, or an author at all, for that matter. Or that Ishida is some literary genius, a colossus of modern storytelling, if you wish.

Acernos, I don't wish for more blood, screams, and tears (there are plenty of those already). I just want the tension, that has been building for a long time now, to be resolved.
Oh, and there's more tragedy now than there ever was in the prequel.
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ichii_1 said:
@putrescence, and that's why you'll never be even 1 millionth as good a writer as Ishida :(
Akira isn't dying, but some quinckes definitely are.


I agree, except psycho bc even thou I hate her sensei seems to love her.
"It's like Tolstoy said. Happiness is an allegory, unhappiness a story"

"And the sense of tragedy-according to Aristotle.comes, ironically enough, not from the protagonist's weak points but from his good qualities. Do you know what I'm getting at? People are drawn deeper into tragedy not by their defects but by their virtues"

Kafka on the shore by Haruki Murakami...the man that was the inspiration for Sen Takatsuki


Jan 29, 2015 3:37 AM

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Putrescence said:
Ah, the MAL hivemind...I'd forgotten that every opinion deviating from the common opinion is wrong.


This quote couldn't be more true.

But i'm curious as to why you think Haise will attempt rape, that's never been something that has crossed the mind of even white-haired Kaneki.
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Acernos said:
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There is a high chance the victim will be kept safe and alive until the auction though. Plus I don't think nutcracker will be interested in eating any female.

and then? this changes the fact that Sasaki was prioritizing the research rather than not involve innocent people?


Not saying you are wrong but just pointing out that Sasaki may choose to abandon his investigation and save the victim if she is in absolute danger. The fact that she is considered relatively safe may have crossed sasaki's mind and thus not taking any action to spoil nutcracker's plan.

Putrescence said:
Ah, the MAL hivemind...I'd forgotten that every opinion deviating from the common opinion is wrong.
Even if it is a valid comparison between two great works.

And thank you, ichii_1. You seem to know me very well, and I appreciate your input. Not that I am trying to become a better author than Ishida, or an author at all, for that matter. Or that Ishida is some literary genius, a colossus of modern storytelling, if you wish.

Acernos, I don't wish for more blood, screams, and tears (there are plenty of those already). I just want the tension, that has been building for a long time now, to be resolved.
Oh, and there's more tragedy now than there ever was in the prequel.


Well at least the thing you are seeking is same as the majority : plot twist. Just that stuffs like sasaki attempting to eat/rape akira/touka are quite unlikely to happen. Even if he is at the peak of his insanity, he did manage to stop himself from eating shinohara though what happened to hide is still unclear.
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Jan 29, 2015 8:53 AM

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Ghouls are everywhere in the manga. TG just focuses on the ones in Tokyo. :)

I'm still curious about the origin of ghouls. I've read a lot of interesting theories
and it's implied in the manga that even Touka wants to know the origin of her race. So that will probably come out of the closet sooner or later.

Happy happy happy!!!
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Putrescence said:
Ah, the MAL hivemind...I'd forgotten that every opinion deviating from the common opinion is wrong.
Even if it is a valid comparison between two great works.

And thank you, ichii_1. You seem to know me very well, and I appreciate your input. Not that I am trying to become a better author than Ishida, or an author at all, for that matter. Or that Ishida is some literary genius, a colossus of modern storytelling, if you wish.

Acernos, I don't wish for more blood, screams, and tears (there are plenty of those already). I just want the tension, that has been building for a long time now, to be resolved.
Oh, and there's more tragedy now than there ever was in the prequel.


No it's the fact that you're like "I wanna see Sasaki get on over to Akira and rape her" which was incredibly random and out of left field, even if you were comparing it to something else where it happens. I mean fine, you can go ahead and want that to happen but it's so out of context for what's going on in the story right now that everyone did a double take on your post.
Jan 29, 2015 10:20 AM
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Again, I don't particularly want Akira or Touka to somehow get hurt. It just that, given the current cast, these characters are two of the most appropriate "tools" to turn the story around. If Ishida even wants to do such a drastic twist, that is, which I doubt, since he usually manages to bring the story forward without going to the extremes.
Plus, the rape was only mentioned as a parallel to Berserk, nothing more.

And to those of you who say that there's literally no chance in the world that Sasaki/Kaneki would kill/eat/rape someone close to him, read a little more.
At the end of the prequel, Kaneki almost couldn't restrain himself to hurt/eat Hide, his best friend and possibly one of the most important people to him, and all signs pointed at Kaneki spiraling even more.
So, keep all that bottled up and growing for three years, the fact that the CCG (possibly) corrupted and violated him, the disparities between his past and present, and many other reasons, and then release all these suppressed feelings at a single point in time, perhaps through a traumatic event.
Can you really say, with 100% certainty, that Sasaki/Kaneki won't completely lose control over himself?
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Hurt/eat is definitely not out of the question. I'm among those that think Hide was probably eaten at the end of the Anteiku arc. But I guess it was the rape I was focusing on that is really out of context. Nowhere in the story has it ever been hinted that Kaneki is some sort of sexual deviant, sexually violent, etc.

And on the contrary, I do think he will lose control of himself completely eventually. He came really close to it at the end of TG and even this early on :re he lost control of himself when fighting Nishiki.
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Hurt/eat is definitely not out of the question. I'm among those that think Hide was probably eaten at the end of the Anteiku arc. But I guess it was the rape I was focusing on that is really out of context. Nowhere in the story has it ever been hinted that Kaneki is some sort of sexual deviant, sexually violent, etc.

And on the contrary, I do think he will lose control of himself completely eventually. He came really close to it at the end of TG and even this early on :re he lost control of himself when fighting Nishiki.



But wouldnt losing control lead to a second death?
"It's like Tolstoy said. Happiness is an allegory, unhappiness a story"

"And the sense of tragedy-according to Aristotle.comes, ironically enough, not from the protagonist's weak points but from his good qualities. Do you know what I'm getting at? People are drawn deeper into tragedy not by their defects but by their virtues"

Kafka on the shore by Haruki Murakami...the man that was the inspiration for Sen Takatsuki


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gabyta07 said:
CNTRI715 said:
Hurt/eat is definitely not out of the question. I'm among those that think Hide was probably eaten at the end of the Anteiku arc. But I guess it was the rape I was focusing on that is really out of context. Nowhere in the story has it ever been hinted that Kaneki is some sort of sexual deviant, sexually violent, etc.

And on the contrary, I do think he will lose control of himself completely eventually. He came really close to it at the end of TG and even this early on :re he lost control of himself when fighting Nishiki.



But wouldnt losing control lead to a second death?


Think about it though, Haise's mind at the moment is delicate. So if he were to regain his memories I seriously doubt he'd get over it like it was nothing. His mind would be fucked. If all his memories that are filled with suffering and tragedy were to come back rushing to him, he's gonna go insane. No person can handle all that pain in an instant. So right now Haise's in a delicate position. Him remembering his past will come with lots of pain. So the question is how will he recover from it?
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gabyta07 said:



But wouldnt losing control lead to a second death?


Think about it though, Haise's mind at the moment is delicate. So if he were to regain his memories I seriously doubt he'd get over it like it was nothing. His mind would be fucked. If all his memories that are filled with suffering and tragedy were to come back rushing to him, he's gonna go insane. No person can handle all that pain in an instant. So right now Haise's in a delicate position. Him remembering his past will come with lots of pain. So the question is how will he recover from it?


I agree with anikaneki that possibly he will regain it little by little, so that very thing you are talking doesnt happen.
"It's like Tolstoy said. Happiness is an allegory, unhappiness a story"

"And the sense of tragedy-according to Aristotle.comes, ironically enough, not from the protagonist's weak points but from his good qualities. Do you know what I'm getting at? People are drawn deeper into tragedy not by their defects but by their virtues"

Kafka on the shore by Haruki Murakami...the man that was the inspiration for Sen Takatsuki


Jan 29, 2015 11:49 PM

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Sasaki should get promotion and make Matsuri his lil bitch.
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November 11 is remembrance day so I can't help but think there will be a massive amount of body counts this time.


hmm... Maybe since the guy from Germany said it...
(beware this is some heavy reading)



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Z4k said:
November 11 is remembrance day so I can't help but think there will be a massive amount of body counts this time.


hmm... Maybe since the guy from Germany said it...
(beware this is some heavy reading)




O_O

Wow seems like someone did their homework. I knew Ishida put that 11 november date for a very good reason and now its almost certain something bad will be happening to Haise. Lol its amazing how that date alone foreshadows so many events that have yet to happen.
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Z4k said:
-Luhui said:


hmm... Maybe since the guy from Germany said it...
(beware this is some heavy reading)




O_O

Wow seems like someone did their homework. I knew Ishida put that 11 november date for a very good reason and now its almost certain something bad will be happening to Haise. Lol its amazing how that date alone foreshadows so many events that have yet to happen.


Can some1 sum that thing up cause it too fucking much to read?
Jan 30, 2015 7:19 AM

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Z4k said:

O_O

Wow seems like someone did their homework. I knew Ishida put that 11 november date for a very good reason and now its almost certain something bad will be happening to Haise. Lol its amazing how that date alone foreshadows so many events that have yet to happen.


Can some1 sum that thing up cause it too fucking much to read?


Just talks about some carnaval that happens in germany the november 11
What it has to do with TG...I don't know except for the date I don't see anything that relates to it. Unless the poster thinka the auction is going to be a carnival or something like that.
And I would like to add that the person who said it (Matsuri) is a japanese man, he just happened to worked for a time with the Germany CCG. And he just repeat it the day of the auction he did not decided on it, the ghouls did. So unless the ghouls are from germany or germany fans, I doubt they are referring to WWI or the carnival.


oh and also

"In 1999, Ezaki Glico Co Ltd decided that November 11 would be “Pocky & Pretz Day” (the shape of the popular stick snacks resembles the number 1) and it was recognized by the Japan Anniversary Association.

Each year on November 11, Ezaki Glico carries out a campaign to thank its customers."

Just something funny I found since it seems everyone is looking for a meaning on the date

and there is also the 11th tarot card...strength and its also the sign of scorpio.

Just something that I am putting out there for others to analyze if they want.

Personally I think its just a date...but in TG there's always a possibility that is a millions of things :D
gabyta07Jan 30, 2015 7:36 AM
"It's like Tolstoy said. Happiness is an allegory, unhappiness a story"

"And the sense of tragedy-according to Aristotle.comes, ironically enough, not from the protagonist's weak points but from his good qualities. Do you know what I'm getting at? People are drawn deeper into tragedy not by their defects but by their virtues"

Kafka on the shore by Haruki Murakami...the man that was the inspiration for Sen Takatsuki


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FrozenRemains said:
Z4k said:

O_O

Wow seems like someone did their homework. I knew Ishida put that 11 november date for a very good reason and now its almost certain something bad will be happening to Haise. Lol its amazing how that date alone foreshadows so many events that have yet to happen.


Can some1 sum that thing up cause it too fucking much to read?

To make it really short, Pierrot will be in the auction and we might see Kaneki returning.
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Z4k said:
FrozenRemains said:


Can some1 sum that thing up cause it too fucking much to read?

To make it really short, Pierrot will be in the auction and we might see Kaneki returning.

Also some guy is 100% getting their balls crushed based on the "women cut men's ties" thing and the second coming might also refer to Amon instead of Kaneki.
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Lacing up to its rank, finally.
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I NEED MORE!!!!!1111!!

In all seriousness, I can't wait to see Juuzo have his revenge.

And Eto. I have to see Eto.
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The auction draws near. also is my shipping sense tingling? That would be a twist though. Akira x kaneki. Delusional shipping at its best people. Don't be like me.
Mar 20, 2015 5:09 PM

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how these too became so close friends.I have to become stronger and protect everyone. deja vu and he failed

Apr 21, 2015 7:08 AM

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Ou yeee, Etooooooo <3
And ye, what was that "Book of Sui", I wonder o.O
Oct 3, 2015 7:19 PM
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Suzuya's gonna get his revenge!

4/5
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Looks like Juuzou will get his revenge against Big Madame.

Akira gets it. Haise has mercy not because he's a ghoul, and he feels any special inclination towards them, but because he's just too kind.

The last time this guy realized the strong are those who lose the least, he mauled and S-ranked ghoul and ate his kakuja kagune. Maybe there'll be some rapid development of Haise's character in the near future...
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CNTRI715 said:
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It'd be nice if Sasaki/Kaneki goes full Griffith at the auction. If he then mind-breaks Akira (e.g. rapes her, or seriously hurts her physically), Amon could become his Guts.That'd be great.
Wat


Eh? So Amon is being resurrected too, now? Not that I wouldn't like to see him again. The Akira x Amon ship getting sunk still rankles a little.

I'm really liking the new Suzuya too. Looks like Shinohara's death left a lasting impression on him. I wonder what sort of operation gave him his leg back? Well, if getting stabbed through the skull can be cured in this world, I suppose a lost limb can be re-attached too. I do hope he gets his revenge.

The exposition parts were interesting. Ghouls have been around for more than a century, so that might rule out the possibility that some mad geneticist decided to create ghouls to be the natural predators of humanity. Natural evolution being used to explain it would be wrong, too, since evolution doesn't work that quickly. A random mutation wouldn't be this drastic, either.

So that leaves just one plausible explanation for the existence of ghouls: Aliens. Or Magic. Or maybe a very convenient kind of virus.
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Big surprises at the auction i guess.
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Suzuya won't need a lot of makeup to look like a girl.
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This Washu is a lot colder.

So a lot more than just Toru and Suzuya.
Urie got someone peeking at him from outside his window!

And Ayato gets a message from Tatara through Eto.
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