Things like lolicon/shotacon and incest give anime a bad reputation

Journey_95 said:


"exploring themes that would go against the morals of the real world" I have nothing against that but lolicon/incest etc. animes don't "explore" anything they are just made to be funny and have lots of fanservice

Oni_Link said:
Just look at all the threads about people on here being depressed, liking or loving being a shut-in. SMH

It will die out as anime slowly becomes more mainstream in the west. It's going to take some time though.......

UnoPuntoCinco said:
Who cares anime is bad anyway

Drunk_Samurai said:


People want to stick their dick into paper? That's a weird fetish.

ninjastarforcex said:
dont justify your pedo instinct with that lame legal-loli excuse

SpaceHamster said:

Of Ultimate Destiny.

SpaceHamster said:


'Shota' is opposite of 'Loli.'

Basically means you're into 'little boys' instead of 'little girls.'

WAD1992 said:



I made a mistake of calling cross ange loli porn, result : hentai fans ate me alive :/
They should really consider making a dedicated dictionary (and i'm not even joking :| )

Kagami_Hiiragi said:


Incorrect.

If you're going to diss something, at least be accurate doing it. Anyway, its not a hentai.

Journey_95 said:

Anime is such a great medium (some of them easily stand up to the popular tv Shows or movies in my opinion) but with crazy things like this they are dragged down

RichtheLionheart said:


Yep :) and it's great to see others feel the same way. I'm not giving up my hobby because of the negative connotations. However, I do hope things get better.

Kreion said:


God you're pathetic.

Really you are - you being any and everyone who thinks that exactly what they believe is the correct way things should be done. You have no tolerance for things that don't fit inside your narrow minded little bubble. Why don't we give up doing everything that's not work and having deep, meaningful conversations whilst we're at it - what a perfectly productive world that would be. How boring, how dry.

Humans are weird. Everyone has their own fetishes and preferences - some are more common than others and these things become mainstream and therefore acceptable. Others are less popular or more culture specific so are shunned - but there really is generally no reason other than stupid cultural stigma. The only things which should be banned are those which actively hurt one or more participants and is non-consensual - these things are banned (rape/child porn etc.).

Now a fictional rape, or a fictional 'child' has no victim so there is no reason to ban it. You may as well ban books in which many people are killed for all the sense you make. If you, an adult, can't tell the difference between fantasy and reality then that's YOUR problem. No need to judge others for your failure to develop cognitive reasoning to a normal standard.

As for if incest and loli shows give a bad impression to the west...why the fuck do you care. You feel the need to affirm your own normalcy, to try and 'fit in' again, that's pretty sad. People who say anime is just porn were NEVER going to watch it to start with(let's gloss over the fact anime is far more known for tentacles and massive breasts than loli's in the west) just as people who say cartoons are for children give no shits about Korra for example.

As a message to...everyone, please stop trying to justify your own dislike of something into some moral highground. I dislike things, lots and lots of things - just watch me complain about Kyoani perpetually disappointing me after Hyouka. But I don't think the things they make should be banned, that's so self-centered. There are just as many serious anime as there are fun and OTT series - anime needs both to survive.

Journey_95 said:


blah.. seriously I think we have a lolicon fan here who got butthurt by all these comments

there are just some fetishes that aren't normal and disgusting
If someone think's little girls are just cute (like take Menma for an example) thats ok but if someone thinks little girls are hot and gets a boner then something is seriously wrong it doesn't matter if its fictional there are certain "lines" that don't need to be crossed (same with rape, incest etc.)

Now I know that there will always be people with sick fetishes I'm not trying to change people's minds I just think this gives anime a bad reputation and it should die out and not be so "normal" in the anime industry

you and everyone else who likes this can watch hentai just like if people want to see incest they watch porn NOT tv shows because there aren't any like that

Kreion said:


Game of Thrones, Incest, violence and rape all in one nasty package.

If getting aggravated over people who think they have any right at all to dictate what I can and cannot enjoy then have the balls to act as though THEY are being rightious whilst denying me my freedom of deciding what fantasy I like is being 'butthurt' then yes, yes I am.

Oh, they're disgusting are they? Offend you do they? Don't fucking watch them then. You have no right to judge other people on their fetishes - grow up.

Your argument is entirely 'I don't like this so it's evil' - maybe you could start a religious and go on some holy crusades - you've pretty much got the mind set of a 11th century moron blinded by bigotry after all.

Journey_95 said:


there are just some fetishes that aren't normal and disgusting
If someone think's little girls are just cute (like take Menma for an example) thats ok but if someone thinks little girls are hot and gets a boner then something is seriously wrong it doesn't matter if its fictional there are certain "lines" that don't need to be crossed (same with rape, incest etc.)

WAD1992 said:

Game of Thrones ... berserk any one ?? :3
God Hollywood will rip of anything for source material , even the freaking bible :")

Kreion said:


Game of Thrones, Incest, violence and rape all in one nasty package.

If getting aggravated over people who think they have any right at all to dictate what I can and cannot enjoy then have the balls to act as though THEY are being rightious whilst denying me my freedom of deciding what fantasy I like is being 'butthurt' then yes, yes I am.

Oh, they're disgusting are they? Offend you do they? Don't fucking watch them then. You have no right to judge other people on their fetishes - grow up.

Your argument is entirely 'I don't like this so it's evil' - maybe you could start a religious and go on some holy crusades - you've pretty much got the mind set of a 11th century moron blinded by bigotry after all.

Journey_95 said:


GOT is one of my favourite shows but as usual you miss the point and keep on whining and bitching

Incest in Got is entirely different than your usual incest anime its dealt with in a adult manner not the simple ohh "my onii-chan is so hot" and fanservice but of course you wouldn't understand

give me a break I'm not even religious jesus just inventing stuff about a person who has a different opinion then you?? lol someone is VERY butthurt it seems I have offended you or someone close to you

I still stand by my opinion I think guys who get hard by watching little girls are sick it doesn't matter if its fantasy thats the lamest argument I have ever heard
And no I'm not a crazy person with a mentality from the 11th century I mean like WTF? just because I don't like lolicon and incest (and the people who like it) I'm somehow not "modern" enough for you?..

Journey_95 said:

there are just some fetishes that aren't normal and disgusting
If someone think's little girls are just cute (like take Menma for an example) thats ok but if someone thinks little girls are hot and gets a boner then something is seriously wrong it doesn't matter if its fictional there are certain "lines" that don't need to be crossed (same with rape, incest etc.)

Now I know that there will always be people with sick fetishes I'm not trying to change people's minds I just think this gives anime a bad reputation and it should die out and not be so "normal" in the anime industry

ContrivingOtaku said:


"Fetishes that aren't normal and disgusting" - Well, fetishes are already irrational or abnormal desires, so of course they're not normal. Disgusting is more of a subjective view that each individual holds. If I said I had a fetish for knee-high socks on women, would you consider that disgusting as well? If so, compare that with the common view of finding women in red dresses attractive, both are examples of attaining sexual arousal from clothing, but is one more wrong than the other?

"certain 'lines' that don't need to be crossed' - this is the point I really want to hammer on.

Homosexuality has been present in human history with a strong tendency to be frowned upon, a line that was not to be crossed and viewed as disgusting (individual opinions (my own included) can consider it to still be). Yet in our current era, society as a whole has begun addressing the issue, speculating if it's really something that (I guess) should be continued to be taboo, and have in general begun to accept it as a normal thing. (Obviously there are different opinions people have towards this, either being: acceptable, against, tolerate (myself included), or other) This is clear evidence of a particular view of something that was once generally viewed as wrong and immoral, to now have received a chance as a 'normal' practice in society (its still fighting for its grasp though).

Now what I'm wondering, if such a thing as homosexuality that has been viewed negatively, wouldn't other 'distasteful' subjects such as incest, pedophilia, bestiality, etc have the potential to attain acceptance such as homosexuality is gaining now? If they do, these obsessions towards lolis, furries, or whatever have a chance of being considered 'normal'.

_Izaya_ said:
Oh, here we fucking go again.

How many of these threads are on MAL again? Jesus fucking christ.

Journey_95 said:


Yeah but I think comparing pedophilia and bestiality to Homosexuality is not right (saying that as a bisexual guy) I get what you are saying Homosexuality was seen as taboo and not "normal" but now its more accepted (in many countires its still a bad thing though if you are gay)

so basically the same thing could happen with the other things? I disagree maybe I'm too narrow minded but like I said being sexually attracted to someone of the same gender (which is hardly a problem, I never got why someone would be against it) is hardly comparable to wanting to have sex with little girls or animals or with your bro/sis whatever

of course this is only my opinion

jal90 said:
And here I was, thinking that the issue with pedophilia and bestiality had to do with the impossibility of consent, bringing a scenario that in essence is sexual abuse in every one of its forms.

Okashi_sama said:
having incest and cute little girls is bad. having lots of killing, sex, and dark gore-y stuff is good. amirite? xD

Journey_95 said:
Incest in Got is entirely different than your usual incest anime its dealt with in a adult manner not the simple ohh "my onii-chan is so hot" and fanservice but of course you wouldn't understand

I still stand by my opinion I think guys who get hard by watching little girls are sick it doesn't matter if its fantasy that's the lamest argument I have ever heard

jal90 said:
And here I was, thinking that the issue with pedophilia and bestiality had to do with the impossibility of consent, bringing a scenario that in essence is sexual abuse in every one of its forms.

Jonouchi-Katsuya said:

lol. best.

Lyuze said:
Yes there is a large difference.

Lolicon is an attraction to young/prepubescent girls.

Liking petite body types means you're attracted to people of age that look young.

Attraction isn't a purely physical thing. There's a reason taboo fetishes like incest are so well loved.

ManWild said:
Yeah. There isn't really much that can be done though

ManWild said:
Yeah. There isn't really much that can be done though

-Ecliptix- said:
Why the fuck are people resurrecting 6 year old threads about something people still make threads about all the time.