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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Julian showed fine military tactics prowess but Reinhard falling ill yet again leaves another opening. It's not a good sign that he's fallen even more ill than before. It seems his sickness comes up at the worst of times for the Empire. |
 ...even a saint needs a soldier to do the dirty work. |
| What is below, might be considered a spoiler. It is me talking out loud trying to figure out what might happen next. I do not consider it a spoiler because I do not have actual future knowledge of what will happen. Is Reinhard a tragic figure? Ambition? Well I think he has A LOT of ambition but, I also think he manages to keep this in check. For a while I thought the series would end with Reinhard defeating all his enemies and then being left empty. If the series ended that way, then it would be a satire, not a tragedy. Now, Reinhard could die of his sickness, instead of in combat. That is what happened to Yang, in a way. That ending would also be rather satirical, but also tragic in a way. Reinhard is really full of himself at times. I am leaning towards this being his downfall. He has a lot of little enemies which might get the better of him. Something else I have been wondering about is the latent force of Capitalism that is represented by the Phezzani. The Phezzani setup reminds me a lot of the early system of guilds in feudal Europe. Although this anime has dealt with political issues, it is just starting to dealing with some economic issues. The empire is financially burdened, and there are latent seeds of capitalism and republican democracy. This reminds me A LOT of the revolutions that overthrew the monarchies of Europe. These revolutions had a lot to do with economic situations, rather than tactical, political, or strategic reasons. So, will Reinhard be overthrown by Capitalism, and Democracy? Will history plan out as it has before? Or will the Terraist faction throw a wrench into the works? I suppose this is all speculation. I will have to wait to see what happens! |
     "There is no such thing as God in this world." -Setsuna F. Seiei |
| Seriously, they knew Julian was luring them within Thor Hammers firing range, and yet they enter it in their pursuit just to turn around and get owned by the hammer. Great job. |
tainteddonut said: THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Julian showed fine military tactics prowess but Reinhard falling ill yet again leaves another opening. It's not a good sign that he's fallen even more ill than before. It seems his sickness comes up at the worst of times for the Empire. Reinhard's high fever looks more suspicious than ever, with this timing. Again, I could thinking too much and it might just be a natural retribution or providence for him to succumb to a sickness..... And did I mention how I love the ending song? :D |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
HydraA said: Seriously, they knew Julian was luring them within Thor Hammers firing range, and yet they enter it in their pursuit just to turn around and get owned by the hammer. Great job. If the Imperials kept very close to Julian's fleet, the Thor hammer wouldn't have been able to hit them without destroying their own fleet as well. As such it represented a good opportunity to try to get close to the fortress. In theory, anyway. ^^ |
| "I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by." Douglas Adams |
| haha Julian pwned them all X)))) awesome fight) and merkatz was awesome too)) Reinhard has high fevers.. it seems like he is gonna die ? o_O |
| Julian definitely proved a wortchy successor of Yang in this battle. But Reinhards sickness really worries me. Either it's just a natural sickness which may bring him down sometime or it is some plot from earth cult, slowly poisoning him. In any case it's bad news and I hope it'll get cleared up soon. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| So we get a "strong imperial fleet loses vs weak alliance fleet because they are stupid" episode again... meh |
| It was a good episode in the way it demonstrated how skilled Julian can be both in tactics and politics. Once again, most of the protagonists here, whatever the side they belong to, show their liking for fight, and enjoyment in having solid opponents that they respects. It's quite rare in war-like animes, I just remind having seen it clearly in irresponsible captain Taylor. |
| Julian won his first fight yay,i'm proud :) but still i'm amazed by how can Karin still be so into him...that kid barely has any game at all,lol...IRL a hot "tsundere" would never hit on the shy boy wtf is wrong with reinhard's health?is he being poisoned or something? i don't think he's gonna die though,the narrator guy didn't say anything about this yet instead,did he say that Julian will die?or was it just me O.o 5/5 |
Sayonara,papa! "Just how a mirror reflects you,people will also reflect your heart." ~Athena Glory,Aria "Whatever happens,happens" ~Spike Spiegel's thoughts on dying(Cowboy Bebop) |
clannad4ever said: wtf is wrong with reinhard's health?is he being poisoned or something? |
orzel286 said: clannad4ever said: wtf is wrong with reinhard's health?is he being poisoned or something? very good orzel no grammar mistakes!(you probably learned that by hanging around on the C-AS forums) now try writing something coherent ^^ |
clannad4everDec 9, 2010 5:01 AM
| Sayonara,papa! "Just how a mirror reflects you,people will also reflect your heart." ~Athena Glory,Aria "Whatever happens,happens" ~Spike Spiegel's thoughts on dying(Cowboy Bebop) |
| @crapnad4ever Since you're not able to comprehend simple allusion, why are you talking about grammar? Trying to divert attention from your own supidity? Try harder. |
orzel286 said: @crapnad4ever Since you're not able to comprehend simple allusion, why are you talking about grammar? Trying to divert attention from your own supidity? Try harder. mad drawing skills bro,i bet you worked hours on it and yeah i am probably stupid because i wasn't able to "comprehend" your "simple allusion" please explain me the hidden meaning behind those wise words you said in your last post |
| Sayonara,papa! "Just how a mirror reflects you,people will also reflect your heart." ~Athena Glory,Aria "Whatever happens,happens" ~Spike Spiegel's thoughts on dying(Cowboy Bebop) |
| @Orzel - wtf man, you're forgetting rule # 2 of lotgh brotherhood: Treat fellow Lotgh fans with respect. That includes not questioning their other fav anime no matter how bad you think those shows are. clannad4ever said: wtf is wrong with reinhard's health?is he being poisoned or something? well there is this theory flying around, I'm not sure if you've come across it yet so dont want to spoil it. |
| "...our faces marked by toil, by deceptions, by success, by love; our weary eyes looking still, looking always, looking anxiously for something out of life, that while it is expected is already gone – has passed unseen, in a sigh, in a flash – together with the youth, with the strength, with the romance of illusions.” - Joseph Conrad ('Youth') |
crapnad4ever said: and yeah i am probably stupid because i wasn't able to "comprehend" your "simple allusion" please explain me the hidden meaning behind those wise words you said in your last post Being not able to see that one of the most overused (kyoani!) plot devices ("mysterious illness" aka "incurable cough of death" aka "space aids") is used here too makes you look stupid. Wasn't exactly the same device used in crapnad? Blind fanboy is blind. protip - tvtropes @koreye Never signed anything that said "You belong to lotgh brotherhood." And I never will. |
orzel286 said: Being not able to see that one of the most overused (kyoani!) plot devices ("mysterious illness" aka "incurable cough of death" aka "space aids") is used here too makes you look stupid. Wasn't exactly the same device used in crapnad? Blind fanboy is blind. protip - tvtropes Were kyoani and TV tropes around during Alexander the Great's time orzel? Or is an apt allusion to a historical figure too obscure even for your great mind? |
"I'm starting to think mal is run by Xinil generating electricity on a bicycle." - idklol |
Beatnik said: Were kyoani and TV tropes around during Alexander the Great's time orzel? Or is an apt allusion to a historical figure too obscure even for your great mind? |
koreye said: well there is this theory flying around, I'm not sure if you've come across it yet so dont want to spoil it. i also have a theory that includes that butler of his...Emil,but I don't wanna spoil myself so i'll just watch it :) offtopic&useless |
clannad4everDec 10, 2010 9:46 AM
| Sayonara,papa! "Just how a mirror reflects you,people will also reflect your heart." ~Athena Glory,Aria "Whatever happens,happens" ~Spike Spiegel's thoughts on dying(Cowboy Bebop) |
orzel286 said: @koreye Never signed anything that said "You belong to lotgh brotherhood." And I never will. (Pick whichever one you like) |
eyerokDec 10, 2010 9:55 AM
| "...our faces marked by toil, by deceptions, by success, by love; our weary eyes looking still, looking always, looking anxiously for something out of life, that while it is expected is already gone – has passed unseen, in a sigh, in a flash – together with the youth, with the strength, with the romance of illusions.” - Joseph Conrad ('Youth') |
I like pancakes! said: offtopic&useless ..... HERP. @koreye I wouldn't pick any of those - Im not gay/pedo :P |
| Sayonara,papa! "Just how a mirror reflects you,people will also reflect your heart." ~Athena Glory,Aria "Whatever happens,happens" ~Spike Spiegel's thoughts on dying(Cowboy Bebop) |
| Love this battle, my 2nd favorite after the battle of fortresses in 2nd season. It's not just about knowing the precise range and reload time of Thor Hammer, the Imperial Admirals are waging a gamble. If he's able to keep close to Iserhon's fleet, the Thor Hammer won't fire in the direction of their friendly allies. Even if Iserhon have opportunity to utilise Thor Hammer eventually when their allies had completely retreated back to the fortress, if the Imperial Admiral is able to scatter his troops by then, a sizable amount will still be successful making their way in. For the first attempt, the deciding factor was Admiral Wagsenil and Julian's skills at fleet deployment while engaging in continuous battle. The 2nd attempt, Admiral Wahlen intend to take advantage of the TH's reloading time but he didn't expect a well-executed ambush from Admiral Merkatz from their blind spot. The irony was they could have prevented it if the coordination between Wagsenil and Wahlen improved since the former's fleet should be able to spot the tiny numbers of Admiral Merkat's ships and inform the latter. Even then, it's still a gamble if Iserhon's fleet can hold out until the TH has finished recharging. |
orzel286 said: Also /disagree @ lotgh & clannad being rivals. >To me< lotgh is unmatched, just doesn't have ANY rivals. 50/10 in my book. I just love when people write 11/10 or 50/10 or whatever. It's so ironic, it's supposed to mean that something is extremely good or perfect, but it's really a worse score than 10/10 is. 10/10 is a full score, but if you accept scores higher than 10, why not 10^34 /10? When ratings like 50/10 appear you don't really know how far it goes, which means that 50 might really be a crappy score. I mean, 50 is nothing compared to 10^34. |
| -hits everyone a bunch of people in the topic over the head with the Bittenfield level of logic award- |
they can't make this any less obvious, can they? |
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Miss Reinhard: They show skill and military prowess. Let us send an envoy to begin negotiations, maybe we can avoid further bloodshed. Reinhard: F** that, I want a war! The space battle left a lot to be desired once again. Lasers, Lasers, random number of green ships blow up. And yes there were a lot of miscalculations that seem obvious to me as the viewer. They aren't huge blunders that derail the story, but certainly get tucked away and ignored in favor of the solidified plot. At the end when Mecklinger gave his run down on the errors that happened during the battle that was very interesting though. When someone is smart enough to learn from their mistakes, you should fear them. |
danz said: So we get a "strong imperial fleet loses vs weak alliance fleet because they are stupid" episode again... meh I think it's "because they aren't as smart," not "because they are stupid." That's why I've always enjoyed these episodes: Yang, Bucock, and Julian always draw up plans that aren't just foolproof on their side, but "geniusproof" on the other side. I don't believe that Wahlen acted incorrectly, and I believe that Wagenseil's parallel pursuit was well conceived even if he made a few tactical mistakes. |
Shaduge said: plot armor I've lost count of how many times you've used that expression.... |
| "...our faces marked by toil, by deceptions, by success, by love; our weary eyes looking still, looking always, looking anxiously for something out of life, that while it is expected is already gone – has passed unseen, in a sigh, in a flash – together with the youth, with the strength, with the romance of illusions.” - Joseph Conrad ('Youth') |
Shaduge said: eyerok said: Shaduge said: plot armor I've lost count of how many times you've used that expression.... It's natural when it's used so much and this being a long anime In that sense, you can call everything a plot armor. IN fact, every turning point in death note becomes a plot armor, especially the laughably ridiculous and hard to believe turn of events in the middle, too convenient. Even Monster is filled with 'plot armor'. I think the phrase itself should be used sparingly, if at all, because its easy to pick flaws in any story or storytelling method...I think it boils down to one's bias of one method or approach over another. |
| "...our faces marked by toil, by deceptions, by success, by love; our weary eyes looking still, looking always, looking anxiously for something out of life, that while it is expected is already gone – has passed unseen, in a sigh, in a flash – together with the youth, with the strength, with the romance of illusions.” - Joseph Conrad ('Youth') |
| Well, that was a very easy victory of Iserlohn, those Imperial Admirals have completely undone themselves by donating some high morale to Iserlohn |
| I think Julian's win is understandable, I don't fault Empire's ( Wahlen's and Wagenseil's ) fleet lose fully, they just don't know how much skill of Julian ( he is a "newbie" anyway ).. And about a really different skill of Empire and Iserlohn at close foot combat and spartanian squad, it would be a fatal for Empire if it is still this way.. Even if one of Empire's fleet can breakthrough to Iserlohn's atmosfer I don't think they can beat Schenkoop's Rosenritter in close combat.. Empire have to do something about it ... And of course about what we worry most, Reinhard's health, It is quite dangerous ... |
"The Slave is the have-not, the oppressed one with nothing to spare. But because the Slave is in that despairing situation, having nothing, it can kill the Emperor !" |
| I love how each time before a battle starts, both sides shout FIRE! Also, the Imperial side is giving Merkatz too much credit (than Julian) even if Merkatz is good hehe |
| I wonder if, in the end, Reinhard will die not by an assassin, or in combat, but by illness. That would surely piss him off. Anyways they lost 400,000 people right? So that means they only have 500,000 left . . . Since they only had 900,000 after a huge portion left Iserlohn. I wonder if they even have enough people at this point. |
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Pirating_Ninja said: I wonder if, in the end, Reinhard will die not by an assassin, or in combat, but by illness. That would surely piss him off. Anyways they lost 400,000 people right? So that means they only have 500,000 left . . . Since they only had 900,000 after a huge portion left Iserlohn. I wonder if they even have enough people at this point. Nope, the 400,000 were Imperial losses. The Iserlohn Republic losses were not mentioned, but is implied to be insignificant. |
| Oh wow, Alliance forces are again owning Imperials... And apparently General Faceroll can rapid fire Thor's Hammer when he wants. Iserlohn is pretty small place. Do they really think they can hold out against Reinhard when Empire has much bigger reserves and can build new ships MUCH faster than Iserlohn. Unless of couse Rosenrittens go and faceroll captures Heinessen without any losses... |
koreye said: Shaduge said: It's natural when it's used so much and this being a long anime In that sense, you can call everything a plot armor. IN fact, every turning point in death note becomes a plot armor, especially the laughably ridiculous and hard to believe turn of events in the middle, too convenient. Even Monster is filled with 'plot armor'. I think the phrase itself should be used sparingly, if at all, because its easy to pick flaws in any story or storytelling method...I think it boils down to one's bias of one method or approach over another. Constantly beating a stronger force which has competent leaders with some cheap stunt is enough to bring out the plot armor card. Especially when they magically keep getting more troops/ships to be able to fight off each new wave of empire fleets. It's become rather boring watching Alliance vs Empire battles since you already know the Alliance is going to win even though the Empire is the logical victor. The alliance always pulls something out of their ass off-screen that gives them an advantage over the Empire fleet. |
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| At this point it is hard to find satisfaction with victories won in this way. If after so long no one is more the wiser to ambushes in a narrow corridor for that matter, it becomes a disappointing spectacle. |
| "Let Justice Be Done!" My Theme Fight again, fight again for justice! |
| When is the Empire just gonna go in there and obliterate already? They keep using these small forces to fight them. |
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| Writer's BS' strikes again. 1- Why do Empire feel the need to chase FPA inside Iserlohn corridor when attacking side is FPA and all they need to do is defend? 2- They saw an opportunity so they attacked but how come they didn't think they could retreat and use Thor's Hammer while they try to catch up? Don't Empire soldiers know how to do simple math? Don't they know the distance between them, the speed of ships, the distance between FPA fleet and Iserlohn? 3- How did they not think of timing it perfectly to make their move so they can catch up enemy and interrupt their plan to use Thor's Hammer? And if that was impossible how did they not give up on no-more-opportunity? 4- How did they completely forget the rest of the FPA fleet while trying to chase down Julian? Don't they know FPA's number of fleet? 5- Don't either side have any sort of espionage ships, probes so that they won't be caught off guard before moving the entire fleet? 6- How come communication is so poor in such a far sci-fi universe, so Empire is always doing the worst thing possible and never benefit from infinite resources tactical, strategic, technological, scientific? 7- How come Empire can't hack/disrupt/corrupt FPA communication, computer systems with all the resources? How come Empire's fleet is made up of same technologically advanced ships as FPA's despite all the time that has passed? 8- Do anyone ever use 3rd dimension in this thing? (I know I have seen the use of it but it is painfully rare) And why must ships fight while moving forward/backwards or standing still. Why can't they chase each other? 9- A few episodes ago we have witnessed as I recall the first visually depicted FLT, which is obvious to have happened all the time in the show, as you know, in space there's no other way to travel across the galaxy. But "somehow" this doesn't work for communication. How convenient. 10- How can such a thing as "corridor" exist in space anyway? Is it about the supply destinations in-between? But then, you can always make bigger ships for that or simply take supply ships with you. This has got to be one of the most ridiculous sci-fi things I have ever heard in my life and I have seen Plan 9 from Outer Space. I know some of these are general questions or some of these have complex answers but in essence all of these are BS and most of the questions effect heavily in FPA's favor and that's just absurd. I don't even want to hear answers to some of these. And I didn't even mention the exquisitely convenient solar flares and meteors yet. |
RememberTheCantApr 17, 2015 3:05 PM
| Open to chat about any storytelling related subject as long as it's clever and respectful. Myanimelist |
| Just a friendly reminder, the Alliance has already ceased to exist legally since episode 73. What you were looking at were at most Alliance remnants (and they did not even declare themselves to be an Alliance government-in-exile). Chronologically speaking, about a year has elapsed since then. Anyway, I will try to answer your questions to the best of my abilities. Prequel said: 1- Why do Empire feel the need to chase FPA inside Iserlohn corridor when attacking side is FPA and all they need to do is defend? The ultimate objective of the Empire is to re-capture Iserlohn Fortress so as to put an end to the resistance movement maintained by the Iserlohn Republic Government (IRG). To realise that militarily they will have to enter the Iserlohn Corridor and try to force a parallel pursuit, which of course in hindsight is not a good idea. Prequel said: 2- They saw an opportunity so they attacked but how come they didn't think they could retreat and use Thor's Hammer while they try to catch up? Don't Empire soldiers know how to do simple math? Don't they know the distance between them, the speed of ships, the distance between FPA fleet and Iserlohn? What Wagenseil was trying to do (and failing miserably) was to move up so close to the IRG fleet that any attempts to fire the Thor Hammer against them would have damaged the IRG ships as well. This was referred in that episode as "parallel pursuit". He however overestimated himself and by the time he realised that it was too late. Wahlen was banking on the fact that the Thor Hammer and the IRG fleet needs time to face his fleet and gambled on that brief window of vulnerability to storm the fortress, and he might have succeeded if not for the interference by Merkatz's detachment. Prequel said: 3- How did they not think of timing it perfectly to make their move so they can catch up enemy and interrupt their plan to use Thor's Hammer? And if that was impossible how did they not give up on no-more-opportunity? The IRG fleet had the advantage of initiative, which prevented Wahlen and Wagenseil from coordinating properly (communication between the two ends of the corridor would be impossible without making Iserlohn aware of them), and as Mecklinger pointed out in their AAR session later in the episode, Wagenseil was too busy retreating his fleet that he neglected to warn Wahlen about Merkatz's ambush. Prequel said: 4- How did they completely forget the rest of the FPA fleet while trying to chase down Julian? Don't they know FPA's number of fleet? Wahlen's recons only detected the IRG fleet leaving Iserlohn, but were apparently unable to figure out their exact disposition. Merkatz's detachment moved to Wahlen's blind spot after all. You made a good point though on why the Empire did not know about the exact size of the IRG fleet. Even if they did not know about the exact figures, they should have a fairly good estimate by that time. Prequel said: 5- Don't either side have any sort of espionage ships, probes so that they won't be caught off guard before moving the entire fleet? They did have reconnaissance ships; in fact the episode began with a shot of an Imperial recon ship, but they were useless if the enemy struck from a blind spot unless they were constantly sent ahead of the main fleet which Wahlen apparently did not attempt to do once he received the report that the IRG fleet had already departed from the fortress. Whether that can be construed as negligence on his part is debatable. Prequel said: 6- How come communication is so poor in such a far sci-fi universe, so Empire is always doing the worst thing possible and never benefit from infinite resources tactical, strategic, technological, scientific? The Empire might have been more advanced than the Alliance, but they also controlled a much larger area and coordinating large number of ships has always been portrayed as difficult in the LoGH universe. The Alliance was also not exempt from this, and shades of this could be seen in that disastrous plan to invade Imperial territory way back in season 1. A clearer example is portrayed in the first Gaiden series, in the Hundred Billion Stars, Hundred Billion Lights arc, when communications between Alliance fleets in the same region actually broke down. Prequel said: 7- How come Empire can't hack/disrupt/corrupt FPA communication, computer systems with all the resources? How come Empire's fleet is made up of same technologically advanced ships as FPA's despite all the time that has passed? They can and will if given the opportunity; in fact Yang in the Battle of Astarte (see Overture to a New War) pre-load his tactics to all the ships in his fleet in anticipation that the Empire will listen into his fleet's communications when the battle begins. In this episode though, the Empire was not shown doing anything to that effect because that would have been superfluous - Julian and Merkatz were moving their ships independently of each other and did not need to be in direct communication with each other; a simple reconnaissance to determine their relative positions would have sufficed. Imperial ships are actually slightly more advanced than Alliance ships; the most noticeable feature being their atmospheric flight capability whereas Alliance ships had to rely on shuttles for resupply and transportation. Alliance ships are also depicted as having more cannons on average compared to their Imperial counterparts, which implies that their cannons are weaker and had to rely on superior numbers to compensate that. Otherwise, it is more or less taken for granted that an Imperial ship would have similar combat capabilities to an Alliance ship of the same class. This extremely narrow gap in terms of technology was in fact the work of Fezzan, which for many decades had been secretly leaking any potential Imperial advances to the Alliance to ensure that military parity was maintained between the two powers. Prequel said: 8- Do anyone ever use 3rd dimension in this thing? (I know I have seen the use of it but it is painfully rare) And why must ships fight while moving forward/backwards or standing still. Why can't they chase each other? That is admittedly a major failing of the series and any reasons I can come up with will sound like cheap excuses. Prequel said: 9- A few episodes ago we have witnessed as I recall the first visually depicted FLT, which is obvious to have happened all the time in the show, as you know, in space there's no other way to travel across the galaxy. But "somehow" this doesn't work for communication. How convenient. The series never explained that explicitly, but it can be assumed that FTL communications operate along the same principles as FTL travel, ie, it is transmitted along the same navigation routes which ships travel through, so there will always be a time lag for information to be transmitted from one star system to another. Prequel said: 10- How can such a thing as "corridor" exist in space anyway? Is it about the supply destinations in-between? But then, you can always make bigger ships for that or simply take supply ships with you. This has got to be one of the most ridiculous sci-fi things I have ever heard in my life and I have seen Plan 9 from Outer Space. The original novels has this to say (and I quote from a translation of the relevant portion in Volume 1, Chapter 5): "Within the area densely populated by variable stars, red giants, and abnormal gravity fields, was a sliver of safety; and Iserlohn was enshrined within that haven. The only way to travel from the Alliance to the Empire without going through this area was to pass by the Dominion of Fezzan, which, of course, could not be used in a military campaign." Now whether that would break anyone's willing suspension of disbelief or not would depend on the individual. |
MagiarcaApr 17, 2015 10:20 PM
MagisterArcanum said: Prequel said: 8- Do anyone ever use 3rd dimension in this thing? (I know I have seen the use of it but it is painfully rare) And why must ships fight while moving forward/backwards or standing still. Why can't they chase each other? That is admittedly a major failing of the series and any reasons I can come up with will sound like cheap excuses. Magister, the rest of the answers were perfect enough. And let me answer this one, please. We have witnessed 3D action in LoGH universe a bit, as you know. But the main concept was flowing through 2D. First of all, as you know from Battlestar Galactica, (especially) Star Wars; 3D combat means chaos. The audience doesn't understand sh.it while watching these actions. The staff/writer surely have anticipated this paradigm beforehand and decided to follow 2D principles which is based on 18th century combat style. Secondly, the formation/fire style of enlightenment era is the best way to war if you collide 2 armies face to face on a plateau, lowland (in this example, space). So, picking this dimension and this style shouldn't be seen as a failure as well. For the last question as well, you should have seen what happened in the Battle of the Corridor, when the ships come closer to the frontier of this "unpassable" area. The writer's choice was a must, because he wanted to demonstrate us the meaning of strategical/tactical wars of space. Otherwise, the foundation of this series would crumble. ("You can invade anywhere, anytime; who the fuck cares about fortresses, millions of ships anyway?" We would had to pay attention to these questions, otherwise) |
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Wyhern said: MagisterArcanum said: That is admittedly a major failing of the series and any reasons I can come up with will sound like cheap excuses. Magister, the rest of the answers were perfect enough. And let me answer this one, please. We have witnessed 3D action in LoGH universe a bit, as you know. But the main concept was flowing through 2D. First of all, as you know from Battlestar Galactica, (especially) Star Wars; 3D combat means chaos. The audience doesn't understand sh.it while watching these actions. The staff/writer surely have anticipated this paradigm beforehand and decided to follow 2D principles which is based on 18th century combat style. Secondly, the formation/fire style of enlightenment era is the best way to war if you collide 2 armies face to face on a plateau, lowland (in this example, space). So, picking this dimension and this style shouldn't be seen as a failure as well. For the last question as well, you should have seen what happened in the Battle of the Corridor, when the ships come closer to the frontier of this "unpassable" area. The writer's choice was a must, because he wanted to demonstrate us the meaning of strategical/tactical wars of space. Otherwise, the foundation of this series would crumble. ("You can invade anywhere, anytime; who the fuck cares about fortresses, millions of ships anyway?" We would had to pay attention to these questions, otherwise) Nice answers! |
| Wow just wow! That was just too damn epic, but with that ending it doesn't really look to good for the series ending! Either way let's see what's next! |
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| Pretty awesome battle. Also dem death flags for Reinhard |
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