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May 25, 2008 5:37 PM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Annerose was quite a downer. They go over to have a nice dinner after being away from each other in so long and she goes and screws up the mood with foreshadowing the possible downfall of her brother. If Reinhard and Sieg's friendship gets tested in the manner she described there won't be a pretty outcome.

This episode felt like a side-story mostly just to advance Sieg a few notches but it wasn't boring. I do think the reasons for the empire's win could have been better explained though.

As for Phezzan, supplying rebels for an insurrection in the empire can't make for good business in the long run, especially if they wish to maintain their 'neutral' status.

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Yeah I was kinda wodering how they won though. Something about gravity, engeneering ships and explosive gas? Also, I don't remember seeing a shot with 2 satelites and it seemed like there was only 1 tthe whole way through. Kinda filler-ish but, meh. It is just 1 episode out of 100 afterall.

I liked how the first movie just went between the two sides every few minutes. These past few episode I've been thinking "Aww, I miss Yang :(". Then "WTF is Reinhard doing, lemme see, lemme see!".

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Aug 7, 2008 1:24 PM

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And the Roman-esque tyrant gets taken down by countless knives wielded by the people closest to him. Just how it should be.

I like Reinhard better than Yang, at least so far. Probably has something to do with Reinhard's ambition to rule the universe, as opposed to Yang's ambition to settle down and live happily ever after. At least both are likable characters. Can't wait to see them fight again.
 
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Nov 3, 2008 9:36 AM

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why couldn't i stab him? D:
 
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Yeah I was kinda wodering how they won though. Something about gravity, engeneering ships and explosive gas?


If I understood it correctly, they messed up with the gravity, thus rendering the ring useless and then threw something involving gas in order to destroy it? xD
 
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From what I understood, the Zephyr Particles released by the Engineering Ships caused the Artemis satellites to explode. Not much else.

Otherwise, a fun episode. We get to see Siegfried flex his tactical muscle and handle somewhat disorderly subordinates with little difficulty.
 
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How that guy was stabbed by his followers kind of reminded me of a scene in "Julius Cesar" when the Cesar is stabbed by the members of the government.


 
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The tyrant stabbing scene was so Caesar-ish...Except that Caesar had actually been a decent ruler xP I'm pretty sure it was intentional, too.

Sieg is so emotionless o.o I wish we'd see him at least raise his voice once in a while, or something.
Pretty decent episode, although the series itself still doesn't amaze me as much as the top anime page would indicate.
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Nov 21, 2009 11:59 AM

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Sieg is so emotionless o.o I wish we'd see him at least raise his voice once in a while, or something.
Pretty decent episode, although the series itself still doesn't amaze me as much as the top anime page would indicate.


Kircheis is not really emotionless, he just is a kind person and a very competent leader, he knows that he is young and his crew might not respect him. That's why he choose to show that he is competent rather than being authoritative.

Most people didn't find the first half of the first season as great as the rest of the series, that's only a long prelude before the saga.
 
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First season is about "competent heroes" vs "dumb old man". While I don't find it boring, I know why some people find it's boring. But it's necessary to set us to politic situation
 
Dec 18, 2009 12:27 PM

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How that guy was stabbed by his followers kind of reminded me of a scene in "Julius Cesar" when the Cesar is stabbed by the members of the government.


:O
didnt know about this)

anyway it was kinda episodic side story.
it was nice tho...


@ShinRA when will the first season end ? at what episode
 
Dec 18, 2009 12:40 PM

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So, maybe this gets better, but I don't feel like forcing myself to watch a whole season for it to. Unfortunately, dropped.
 
Mar 27, 2010 5:29 AM

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So, maybe this gets better, but I don't feel like forcing myself to watch a whole season for it to. Unfortunately, dropped.


I would suggest you watch two prequel movies before you decide to drop it: my conquest is the sea of stars and overture to the new war. They're much better than the first few eps of the series. I did the same and I'd say it was worth it. If you still don't like the series then don't force yourself
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Jun 2, 2010 6:16 PM
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Why is Sieg getting all the credit? They won thanks to to the scientists of the empire. All Sieg did was ask them surrender, what a brilliant strategy. >___<

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Aug 13, 2010 5:26 PM

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at least it was a quick fight yay :p

and the fat pig was stabbed by his own allies,even by his hookers lol

4/5
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at least it was a quick fight yay :p

and the fat pig was stabbed by his own allies,even by his hookers lol

4/5


I was kinda expecting an "et tu Brute?" when he got stabbed
 
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The enemy lives in Rome or Greece?? What?
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adamantine said:
Why is Sieg getting all the credit? They won thanks to to the scientists of the empire. All Sieg did was ask them surrender, what a brilliant strategy. >___<


Yeah really. So far it looks like one win in battle equals supergenius admiral. It doesn't seem as if anyone cares why things happen or whether one side was just incompetent.
 
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Nice episode. I like Sieg's character
 
Jul 29, 2011 5:00 PM
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Nice to see Sieg get another promotion. It seems these two are unstoppable, but we'll find out.
 
Aug 10, 2011 1:48 PM
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Weird Roman fashion sense on the rebel planet. Everywhere else in Galactic Empire space has pretty consistent dress, and the same goes for the Free Planets Alliance, so I wonder why that was the only oddball. Perhaps they were newly admitted to the political world of space, which might also explain their juvenile understanding of space warfare.

Nice episode in theory. Kircheis has been with Reinhard so long he never got to demonstrate his own abilities. Promotions, and with them power, might have trickled down to him, but he yet to earn any of the respect.
Sadly the battle had more silly tactics. They served well to show us the dangers of Zephyr Particles, in case the viewers missed My Conquest is the Sea of Stars, which is important considering how much they influence LoGH battles. Honestly though I can't believe a entire planet of people would construct a glass cannon like the Artemis Necklace, then pass it off as an "invincible defense."
 
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Nice to see Sieg is a good leader as well. Sieg And Rein make a good team.

That one planet needs to get with the times lol maybe they will now since the Tyrant Maximillian got a coup d'état.
 
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Luthimal said:
Honestly though I can't believe a entire planet of people would construct a glass cannon like the Artemis Necklace, then pass it off as an "invincible defense."


They bought it from Phezzan right? It showed how lazy and stupid they were that they essentially bought a security system and thought they could fight anyone.
 
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reminds me of julius caesar
 
Sep 18, 2011 4:53 AM
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i like Phezzan
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Luthimal said:
Weird Roman fashion sense on the rebel planet. Everywhere else in Galactic Empire space has pretty consistent dress, and the same goes for the Free Planets Alliance, so I wonder why that was the only oddball. Perhaps they were newly admitted to the political world of space, which might also explain their juvenile understanding of space warfare.

Yes, actually it looks a little bit forced in order to be clear about that fact that the leader can be stab by his own crew to be admissible as happened to Julio Cesar. Yet another good episode.
 
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"If there comes a time when he won't listen to you, then that's the end of my little brother."

Uh-oh, foreshadowing?

Incidentally, I burst out laughing when I saw the "Engineering Ship" telop. That one was probably unnecessary...
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As soon as that guy knelt down I was like,
gut him. GUT HIM.
hahaha
total Caesar reference.
Though it's kind of lame for Caesar since he was way more awesome than this slob.
 
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I never thought they'd show Kircheis commanding a fleet, so this was sort of a pleasant surprise for me.
 
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"If there comes a time when he won't listen to you, then that's the end of my little brother."

Uh-oh, foreshadowing?


Aha! .. i knew reinhard reminded me of Alexander the great
 
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ZakuHead said:
clannad4ever said:
at least it was a quick fight yay :p

and the fat pig was stabbed by his own allies,even by his hookers lol

4/5


I was kinda expecting an "et tu Brute?" when he got stabbed


I was waiting for it also. The author seems to like referencing history. Be interesting to see what else is referenced.
 
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Poor Sieg, getting friendzoned and used by Annerose every time.

edit: Lol dat Caesar reference.
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On the part when the traitor kill its leader,it feels like julius caesar assassination plot.
 
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JULIUS CAESARRRRR !!!
 
Sep 9, 2013 9:41 PM

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Cool episode. Was pretty interesting and liked that idiot at the end getting killed like a more hated Caesar ...
 
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Amazing how much a single episode can be better than the previous. This was a good one. Looking forward to more like this one, which I'm sure will happen.
 
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hah! nice caesar reference! in the novel caesar was slain by his senate for being "ambitious" since they feared that he would turn into a tyrant but in this episode kastrop was already a selfish tyrant ts he got killed without remorse. i dont think there are parallels to kastrop's personality and caesar. to quote some parts of marc antony's soliloquy "he (caesar) was my friend faithful and just to me / when the poor had cried caesar had wept. Ambition should have been made of sterner stuff / you all did love him once what cause then withholds you to mourn for him"

also i loved this episode especially seeing sieg and reinhardo become capable leaders and that they finally get some respect! THIS IS ONE HELLA SHOW
 
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The whole Roman thing seemed a little odd considering how everywhere else the people seemed to be doing 19th-20th century European styles. I did enjoy watching that asshole die though.
 
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That Maximilian Von Caeser (Castrop) was extremely entertaining. The Seiyu Hori, Hideyuki also does Captain Ginyu from DBZ, and all the expressions and "Souda" exclamations were exactly like what he did in DBZ, really made my day.

On that note having all these epic VA from True Elite Anime like DBZ make this already phenomenal show even better.
 
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This was probably my least favorite episode so far (that bad guy was just such an idiot), but it was still nice. I didn't understand how they destroyed the necklace thing either. I liked how it ended though, with everyone teaming up and killing the bad guy.
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Ok yeah that scene was a bit iffy on me, like was there any point to making it a parallel to the julius ceaser assassination even to the point of dressing them in roman attire past merely referencing that event for the sake of it. The series has clearly established it was smart in the previous episodes through legitimently well thought out events, we dont need some meaningless reference to real life historical events to have and try to pretend its smarter.

Other than that, ok episode. Not as good as the 4 before it in my opinion. Next episode is back to good ol yang.
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Dat Julius Caesar assassination reference tho. Was expecting the fella to say something like "you too ladies?" when they stabbed him lol.
 
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Nice development! Let's find out what's next.
 
Feb 4, 2015 5:54 PM

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That was a cool strategy to take over that ship and without casualties as well. It was really interesting how they assassinated that commander from the inside. Why were they pretending to be Greek though? Is that just the culture of that country?
 
Mar 25, 2015 9:35 AM

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Lol this episode was just funny. Everyone was just taking up knifes and stabbing him like he's some Piñata. Lmao!
 
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I couldn't help but think "these hoes ain't loyal" when the girls went to stab the dude lol. And I feel the Julius Caesar parallelism was intended, but I don't understand why though??


Overall, a meh episode, though I did like Siegfried's development (if you could call it that I guess).

 
Apr 26, 2015 2:09 AM

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I feel like this episode is foreshadowing a fall out between the duo of Reinhard and Kircheis in the future. Especially in the scene where Annerose speaks to him about her brother.
 
Apr 29, 2015 7:38 PM

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I wish there was a better explanation on how that plan worked.
Still a pretty good episode, with some foreshadowing.
 
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Loved that whole Julius Caesar inspired scene haha.
 
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