| Could'nt watch Sword Art Online and Attack on Titan.........the artsyle was too old and ugly |
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| Well I remember not watching Gundam Seed because of the artstyle but after about 8 episodes I got used to it. |
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| No I like the shows for their personality plot. A good artstyle is a plus though. |
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moonnya said: Things really changed that much, twice, in just three or four years? Really? Even the dpi change that Red_Tuesday points out isn't a change in art style, it's just a change in technical specs. If people really have objections to art styles, I suppose that's subjective, but as has been seen in many a "old vs. new" thread, "old/bad art" is often synonymous with "made in 4:3 and/or not available in HD." Which have nothing to do with art style.I think there are 2 big leaps in artstyle, the first one is 2007-2008, the second one is 2010-2011 Though as I see it, most anime art style falls on a fairly predictable and acceptable spectrum from the "moe-kawaii" end to the "SRSDeep-GrimDark" end, with only a few major deviations like Kaiba or Flowers of Evil. |
laldonkaments said: Sailor Moon Crystal! Couldn't bear to watch the first ep; CGI is horrible and the girls look like mannequins with makeup or sth like dat. And these lips, sometimes they look fine, sometimes rly creepy... I also avoided Ping Pong until now, that "filthy" animation style scares me off. this is also the art style JC Staff using every year |
Red_Tuesday said: RyanEnsign said: Lmao at people who think 2006 anime is old. The DPI of digital art aids took a leap around 2007/8 which makes anything digitally drawn before it look like ass. It's not that everything before 2007 is old, it's the fact that between 1999 and 2007 there was a "dark age" of very low quality digital aid being used in the industry. Hence why a lot of 90s anime can look better than some 00-07 anime. On topic: I'm struggling to get into Seto no Hanayome because of art. That, and it's not very funny when it tries to be funny. now that explains why Bebop has better art than most anime in 2000-2007 Heck, it has better art than lots of anime these days too |
| Cowboy Bebop movie was digitally colored and it still looks better than 99% of stuff out today. Also, they still scan their drawings in at uber low DPI, like 144. They do that so that the lines are solid and the color doesn't bleed. It's just that afterwards, they apply antialiasing so it doesn't look like blocky, low-resolution shit. |
mclovinballz said: This is why I don't watch any anime made before 2007 because the art looks old as fuck and ugly. |
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| Yes. I can't watch any new "serious" shows that are filled with shiny bishies and lolies. Not a single one ever again. |
Red_Tuesday said: RyanEnsign said: Lmao at people who think 2006 anime is old. The DPI of digital art aids took a leap around 2007/8 which makes anything digitally drawn before it look like ass. It's not that everything before 2007 is old, it's the fact that between 1999 and 2007 there was a "dark age" of very low quality digital aid being used in the industry. Hence why a lot of 90s anime can look better than some 00-07 anime. If you want to be more familiar with this era, which is obviously not a dark age of art-style, I suggest you to go watch these : Gankutsuou, Mushishi, Cat Soup, FLCL, Blood: The Last Vampire, Spirited Away, R.O.D OVA, RahXephon, Haibane Renmei, Abenobashi, Wolf's Rain, Tokyo Godfathers, Planetes, Samurai Champloo, Paranoia Agent, Re: Cutie Honey, Mind Game, , Fuujin Monogatari, Dead Leaves,, Full Metal Panic! The Second Raid, Amazing Nuts, Toki wo Kakeru Shoujo, Tekkon Kinkreet, Paprika |
| No, I can watch just about anything . . . Don't really care whether the series was made 2 years ago or 20 years ago . . . Although, it seems like the industry nowadays is trying to carry drivel by just having nice animation . . . That does bother me a little. |
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| Nah, I'm not that shallow. Sure I like some artstyles more than others, but it's not like I'm watching drawings, I watch an anime with a story, characters and all that stuff that is much more important than artstyle for me overall enjoyment. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| I refuse to watch accel world because of how MC is drawn |
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| Normally I don't have a problem with art style, old or new, as long as the show is entertaining. Except one: Gankutsuou. I wanted to like that show, and the story was interesting as far as I watched it, but I had to drop it with prejudice after a few eps because I couldn't put up with the headaches that the art style induced. A shame. |
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mclovinballz said: This is why I don't watch any anime made before 2007 because the art looks old as fuck and ugly. |
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| I really hated Naruto design. It's as if the characters were made to be hated, especially Sasuke (but also Naruto). But then I understood that it's not such a big problem for the actual show. And also, when I watched the first episode of Detective Conan, I had to force myself to finish the episode. Really, have you ever seen something uglier than this?? I almost dropped it then... |
Pirating_Ninja said: No, I can watch just about anything . . . Don't really care whether the series was made 2 years ago or 20 years ago . . . Although, it seems like the industry nowadays is trying to carry drivel by just having nice animation . . . That does bother me a little. Animation and Art-style are not exactly the same. Today's shows are produced in HD and benefit from advances in the added digital visual effects, but overall there is no leap in animation quality (quality of movement) or artistic value (designs, background art). |
| I am not a shallow idiot, so no. |
| Jojolion anime when? |
| I have yet to drop something because of its visuals(at most Dramatical Murder, but that was just plain boring). King of Pigs is CGI in most places and it's kind of awful. It's unsettling, drab, but it adds to the brutality of it tbh. I don't even think Aku no Hana's artstyle to be bad, I want to see it animated even. I don't mind Nobunaga Concerto's animation either. So you might say I have no standards for art and animation. Which is more or less true. |
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DerpHole said: I refuse to watch accel world because of how MC is drawn ^ Otherwise I have no problem with any kind of art style. Knights of Sidonia proved to me that it really only takes an episode or 2 to get used to a different kind of style, and you may be missing out on something great if you are picky. |
| I hate ugly art, the smaller the eyes the better. Reasons why i haven't touched Clannad and never will. |
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| I don't avoid shows or rate them lower as a direct consequence of bad art but most of the shows I've seen that have bad art are pretty bad all around. |
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| At first I was laughing at Ping Pong's artstyle but now it's one of my favorite anime. So I don't really care about artstyle, as long as the anime is good. |
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| Sometimes the art style stops me from watching certain anime, but if the story if good enough too keep me watching then the art style becomes irrelevant. |
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| Pingpong the animation |
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| Chibi Anime is literally cancer I can't watch it |
| I honestly don't mind different kinds of art styles so it doesn't bother me a show has an unusual art style. |
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| I feel sorry for people who refuse to watch older shows because of the art style, they're missing out on some of the best anime has to offer like LoGH. |
| I wouldn't say I have this issue to the same severity, but visuals/art are really dependant on my mood. If I pick an anime up and dislike the artstyle I'll throw it old hold and give it another shot later. |
| I consider it to be a valid reason to drop a series, since animation is visual art, after all. Though there're two things that irritate me about this argument: 1. Anime or any visual art doesn't have any obligation to be pretty. Art went beyond pretty so long ago, that complaining about it being rough or unpleasant is simply barbaric. 2. The right way to say that you don't like the style (not the quality, it can be objectively bad) is something along the lines of "I don't understand this" or "I don't dig this style", not "This is shit, you should burn it". Though yeah, if the quality is poor, then drop it, no further discussion. |
deadoptimistAug 17, 2014 5:31 AM
| Ofc, I won't ever try anything older than '95. |
| About the only anime I refused to watch because of art style is Belladonna of Sadness. Some of it seemed like a stop motion comic or a slide show instead of actual animation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cdp85x9d0A4 |
| I had this problem with 07-Ghost but then I started watching it anyway and it was one of the best decisons I've made. |
| Ping Pong the animation and Inferno Cop laughs at this thread. |
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Mikatarukito said: Ping Pong the animation and Inferno Cop laughs at this thread. I was getting in internet fights all that season because of Ping-Pong. Just can't stand the idiots, who say that a rough and expressive art is a bad art, cause "no pretty". |
| I'm usually not that picky about my art styles but I couldn't bring myself to watch more than one episode of Ie naki ko. The anime is made somewhere in the early seventies, but the use of colours/way things move gives me a slight headache. |
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| I think the only art that really puts me off is very over exaggerated art when it seems like it doesn't have to be, if that makes sense. I don't exactly have any concrete examples off the top of my head, but old art doesn't faze me. Something I can think of, would maybe be a very serious anime with annoying exaggerated art, for me personally that sort of takes away from the experience. Though, I'm pretty picky in the first place, so I hardly ever watch anything that I'm remotely put off by. 90's anime is rather appealing to me because of the nostalgia factor as well, and that I know going in, it's not going to be what's produced these days. It just can't be, but that doesn't mean the story isn't as good or better in some instances. The one thing I do feel guilty about, is having not watched Legend of the Galactic Heroes. Apparently it's amazing, and it's highly rated on MAL as a bonus, but that 80's date is a little daunting to me. I've never watched an anime that old. I will down the road though I'm sure. Anyway, like others have said to, it's also pretty subjective as to what people think is "good" or "bad" art. Ping-Pong in my opinion looks fantastic because it fits. It's all about that for me. As I said earlier, if it doesn't match up with the genres and overall intended style, then I'm not too interested. All of that being said, I LOVE to watch an anime with creative and unique art. I just started watching "K" and I really like the different color palettes they use, though the first episode left something to be desired story wise. So if the art looks amazing, and the story isn't so good then I can stomach it, whereas a good story with very awkward unfitting art would turn me off. |
Dofy said: I think the only art that really puts me off is very over exaggerated art when it seems like it doesn't have to be, if that makes sense. I don't exactly have any concrete examples off the top of my head, but old art doesn't faze me. Something I can think of, would maybe be a very serious anime with annoying exaggerated art, for me personally that sort of takes away from the experience. Though, I'm pretty picky in the first place, so I hardly ever watch anything that I'm remotely put off by. 90's anime is rather appealing to me because of the nostalgia factor as well, and that I know going in, it's not going to be what's produced these days. It just can't be, but that doesn't mean the story isn't as good or better in some instances. The one thing I do feel guilty about, is having not watched Legend of the Galactic Heroes. Apparently it's amazing, and it's highly rated on MAL as a bonus, but that 80's date is a little daunting to me. I've never watched an anime that old. I will down the road though I'm sure. Anyway, like others have said to, it's also pretty subjective as to what people think is "good" or "bad" art. Ping-Pong in my opinion looks fantastic because it fits. It's all about that for me. As I said earlier, if it doesn't match up with the genres and overall intended style, then I'm not too interested. All of that being said, I LOVE to watch an anime with creative and unique art. I just started watching "K" and I really like the different color palettes they use, though the first episode left something to be desired story wise. So if the art looks amazing, and the story isn't so good then I can stomach it, whereas a good story with very awkward unfitting art would turn me off. K has beautiful art and animation. Quite sad that they couldn't get more that 13 episodes because the story wasn't great. Can't wait for the movie. |
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deadoptimist said: 1. Anime or any visual art doesn't have any obligation to be pretty. Art went beyond pretty so long ago, that complaining about it being rough or unpleasant is simply barbaric. Indeed, which is why I have hard time understanding people who want "rough" stories, but with candy clad art. I might be crazy but I wanted cool stuff to be cool, not pretty. No wonder so many anime fans abandoned boat and switched back to superheroes. |
| I'm the exact opposite. If the artstyle is really unique and different, it'll draw me to it. If the artstyle has nothing unique about it, I'll be more likely to not watch it. I ALWAYS advocate experimentation and innovation in art. |
| sometimes there is that kind of problem, for me i usually will get used to it after a while |
| "This is boring...I'm bored..." |
mecharobot said: deadoptimist said: 1. Anime or any visual art doesn't have any obligation to be pretty. Art went beyond pretty so long ago, that complaining about it being rough or unpleasant is simply barbaric. Indeed, which is why I have hard time understanding people who want "rough" stories, but with candy clad art. I might be crazy but I wanted cool stuff to be cool, not pretty. No wonder so many anime fans abandoned boat and switched back to superheroes. Gotta agree here. The contrast between dark content and pretty art can be interesting sometimes, but it is a very particular artistic choice, which shouldn't be overused. Usually a dark story calls for a fitting artstyle. That's why I absolutely adore some of the Yuasa Masaaki's works. Ping-Pong and Kemonozume are great. He really makes animation into something special. |
deadoptimist said: Mikatarukito said: Ping Pong the animation and Inferno Cop laughs at this thread. I was getting in internet fights all that season because of Ping-Pong. Just can't stand the idiots, who say that a rough and expressive art is a bad art, cause "no pretty". This,i'm an art student myself,and the metaphorical expressions and emotions delivered through the animations in Ping Pong impress me. |
| People who don't watch some anime because of the art style are shallow. |
kokkoderrisch said: People who don't watch some anime because of the art style are shallow. Mmm yes. Shallow. Shallow and pedantic. |
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DerpHole said: kokkoderrisch said: People who don't watch some anime because of the art style are shallow. Mmm yes. Shallow. Shallow and pedantic. And also snobbish! And pretentious! We shouldn't forget pretentious, it's important. |
| Yeah, the artstyle was a major factor when I dropped Code Geass and Kill la Kill. |
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| It was Clannad Afterstory. |
[i]"Yet each man kills the thing he loves, [/i]By each let this be heard, Some do it with a bitter look, Some with a flattering word, The coward does it with a kiss, The brave man with a sword!'' ~Oscar |
| Mononoke. I can't stand the art and I don't like the animation. The story seems awesome but after a couple episodes I had to put it on hold. Just couldn't watch it anymore. Not sure if I'll ever get back to it. |
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