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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Another brilliant ending! Johan really framed up Suk, but I wonder why he wants Suk to be chased by the police. Also, it seems that Grimmer was also at 511 Kinderhein (sp?). If so, that could explain his other personality. |
| great ending |
| Brilliant. People need to lock their doors in this anime though. |
| Way to mess up his life. Johan's really good at toying with fear. |
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| Johan totally owned that detective XD |
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| I first tought suk has hanged himself :P But yeah, Johan is still fooling around, need to know what he's up to. |
| I was really expecting to hear something really good on that tape. But instead, it was everything we already knew, only through Johan's own words. Did I see psychological disorder in Grimmer's head? First, when he stood up form the table and got a hallucination of Anna/Johan. That was really interesting. Either he is loosing himself to fear, or it could be just insomnia, or something like that. Second time was when they were listening to the tape. Why was he so disgusted when hearing those eating noises caused by Johan? Does it remember him something? I doubt about that. The only logical explanation would be that Grimmer understood the whole meaning behind the story. But this theory has a flaw. We see him as a very strong man, physically, and mentally. He would not be disgusted by something like that. This leads us to a conclusion that he really had contracted some mental illness. |
| No sig :( |
| Great episode, Suk got owned. And also: "Crunch Crunch! Munch Munch! Chomp Chomp! Gulp!" |
| seems like grimmer has a past with kinderheim 511.. also, suk's been frame up.. no more loveydovey for him.. x] |
| From the point of Grimmer and Suk listening to the tape to the end of the episode, there was some insane tension. Grimmer's a great character by the way. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| ah we didnt get to listen to the whole tape, i couldnt help but to grind my teeth as grimmer and johan crossed paths ahhhhh the tension was awesome |
 Behold of my awesomeness~ controversial and/or sensitive topics likely devolve into the same repetitive, derogatory, abusive, and harassing comments can no longer be posted. But my feels. |
| johan is like the best villian ever, but i miss seeing tenma. BRING BACK TENMA! uhg.... |
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| Wow. |
Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated.~ |
| what interests me from this episode is how Grimmer, a man who seems to be a high caliber spy (being able to detect threats with ease), who's laughed in the face of corrupt police while being tortured and demonstrates absolute dedication and righteousness... was frozen with fear after sensing Johann and seeing the 'blonde woman' walk down the stairs from Suk's apartment. Johann must emanate a seriously monstrous aura to petrify Grimmer like that; another reason why i feel Johann is one of the best villains to grace an anime ^^ |
| It was funny to see Grimmer's expression at the end. |
| another brilliant ending |
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| I thought that Johan would have made Suk eat the candy :> |
| Johan is just toying with Grimmer and Suk. Those guys need Dr. Tenma's help pronto. Oh, and BTW...Nice legs Johan! |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| Not sure how he laced an unopened bag of candy with drugs, would seem pretty hard to me. But holy crap Johan strikes again. |
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| Oh, Johan, you evil evil little bastard. |
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| OMG that ending. About Episode: Seems like Chief put a watch on Suk. Like he was with Grimmer and they were in that outside place having conversation about Experiments and monster thing also and Grimmer even mentioned Kinderheim 511. Nothing new though here. When they went to bank. I was so sure that bank officer is going to call police to get Suk and Grimmer arrested there. But that tape part was good. Seems like we already know everything on that tape only there were maybe couple of things Johan said like he was reading Picture book before going to Kinderheim 511 that could explain why he is like Monster that way. Also too bad we couldn't hear end of the tape cause Grimmer seemed coming sick about those words Johan mentioned. Also this tape part remembered me a little bit a horror anime called Another. Maybe his from too Monster. I mean that could be also true. Or then he understand tape content in it but didn't tell Suk anything like he said himself Suk is unreliable. Other my reasoning is that Grimmer has some sickness. But that house part where top secret guys were questioning him about poison candies. And when he went to change clothes and came back. I knew something was wrong. But Once Johan was disguised in Anna again I notice now that dude is probably eliminated. But no looks like he is been framed. But I wonder why Johan need to get Suk framed. 5/5 |
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| Johan does it again. That psycho needs to be put down like a dog. |
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| Sexy legs Johan. |
| Thats it. The police will accuse Suk as the murder. And btw sexy body Johan. |
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| wow another amazing one! why is Suk so stupid? of course there's a possibility that they're following you. and when Grimmer stand up and felt the presense of Johan, the black figure was scary as hell! finally we now know what the tape is, though we didn't learned anything other than Johan is not his real name, and he is in facr the "Monster" from the book. wow we're getting closer to what really happened in Kinderheim 511!! if only Grimmer played it full! and where the hell is Tenma? he should have known a tape like this exists!!! wow the inspectors just came in out of nowhere. damn looks like Johan framed Suk and i bet he dressed like "Anna" and Suk got mind fucked when the inspectors killed and saw "Anna" being Johan. i wonder if Johan said something to Suk? man we're really getting to the point where they'll show the Kinderheim incident itself!! lol the reply count suddenly drop after the cross dressing scene with Johan XD next episode can't wait as always! |
| the nazgul scream made me jump |
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| This is getting a little freaky. Johan cross-dressing and all. |
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| This is getting better and better,and where the fuck is Tenma? |
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| I think Grimmer's reactions of sheer horror really brought out the eerie and terrifying atmosphere that comes with anything related to Johan. That casette tape was seriously unsettling with the repetition of that Ekvi said: "Crunch Crunch! Munch Munch! Chomp Chomp! Gulp!" Guess their demise is only a matter of time now, although I really want Grimmer to survive. |
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| damn that stairway scene gave me the goosebumps DAT SMILE |
| This episode was hype. I was also petrified once Johan was going down the stairs...it was just so damn powerful. Hope Grimmer and Suk make it out okay, I'm really attached to them now. |
| he smelled gun power but didn't hear a shot? |
undercoverism said: he smelled gun power but didn't hear a shot? I was thinking the same thing. |
yakyuu-addict said: It wouldn't have mattered, Johan already entered his apartment beforeBrilliant. People need to lock their doors in this anime though. |
OriginANIME said: This is getting a little freaky. Johan cross-dressing and all. This anime has contained massacres, murders, torture, abuse, prostitution, and arson, and you think it starts getting creepy when the antagonist starts cross-dressing? I mean... I agree it's really creepy, but this has been insane for a long time now. .-. I wonder why Johan has saved Grimmer's life and continues to spare it. Perhaps he's "useful"? I feel bad for Suk though. There's virtually no way out for him now. It's too bad we didn't get to hear more of the tape. I hope Nina doesn't show up in Prague anytime soon. |
| That Johan Marzan said: Oh, and BTW...Nice legs Johan! lol, thought about the same |
| ..ans Grimmer did nothing as Johan passed him. Not that he would win confronting Johan one on one though. Good episode nonetheless. |
| Brb gonna go whack off to Johan. Looks like Johan is trying to frame Suk. I wonder why? Guess we will find out! Grimmer's gonna be a prime witness in the murder of those two detectives. Awesome episode! These last few episodes have been fucking epic. 9/10 |
| Another brilliant ending Johann! |
| Suk is in deep deeeep trouble, it is so stupid from him to open up to a random girl in bar. Johan would've got to him easily even if he didn't meet him in bar, but still a police man the information are top secret. |
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| I'm impressed by how this anime makes me obsessed. I want to watch the next episode ! :3 |
| I would feel sorry for Suk if it wasn't for the fact that he literally walked into this. "Hey! I met this random girl at a bar who I clearly know nothing about, and she hasn't even told me here name or anything! Just something about 3 frogs.. That means she's completely trustworthy, and I will tell her every single confidential detail I've ever learned. That sounds like a good idea!" |
"You either die an Ashita no Joe, or you live long enough to see yourself become a Naruto."  |
| 5/5 |
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| For a second I though Suk hung himself. Either was he is fucked. |
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