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Mar 25, 2014 2:41 AM
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The scene where kaname talked to chisaki made me cry... the scene where sayu talked to kaname made me cry .... kaname scenes are always making me cry, my poor poor baby ;n; ....why do i ship kaname with chisaki... I just can't get over how he said he would always love her.

Also i really don't think the one manaka loves is tsumugu, seeing as she also lost the memory of when she jump in the pool being worried for hikari too ... so the thing manaka was going to tell hikari might have been about him and not tsumugu ... i'm getting kind of annoy how all the characters just assume manaka loves tsumugu when she might just have been fascinated and curious about him because that's how manaka's personality is.... and it would feel pretty weird after all the tsumugu chisaki drama if manaka's emotions return and she's in love with tsumugu....
exactly, i dont think manaka has any profound feelings of affection towards tsumugu which is why i dont really see them together at all. Manaka clearly had a simple middle school crush on him, nothing really special.
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A bit late here, you know, 18 pages :)
Anyways, I want to add just my two cents to somehow balance this debate about the Tsumugu/Chisaki's hints during the first cour.
So here how I see things.

In my opinion their mutual feelings were born and grew during the first cour.
Here the key points. I'll try to be as concise as I can. So if I may sound absolute at times is mostly for that reason. :)

The first key moment happened When Tsumugu defused Chisaki's attempt to lie for Hikari's sake. During that conversation, after that Tsumugu scolded her, she stated as Tsumugu was not the good guy she thought she was.
This step is somehow acknowledgement of each other. As Tsumugu pointed out the previous episode he saw her as the sea, as much as Chisaki clearly changed her vision of Tsumugu from just the sea slug guy to the "bad" guy. Even becoming all tsundere. All signs of incoming romance in my book. That was the very moment they "saw" each other I think. Even for Chisaki.
This was relevant even because we saw at the same time how her crush on Hikari affected her in a bad way and that Kaname was ready to let her lying.
Instead Tsumugu acted, challenging her, going apparently against her, but instead trying to push her to be a better person. Another pivotal aspect in building up, generally speaking, a possible relationship in my book.
Kaname's alert state: DEFCON 5.

The second key moment was when she collapsed and Tsumugu took her to the sea. Before a beautiful scenery they had another confrontation in which Tsumugu went again against her. She was saying that she had to change for wrong reasons, again due to Hikari's. And he without hesitation criticized her behavior and then added how he didn't dislike her as she was.
At that point Chisaki said that she hated Tsumugu. Isn't that one of those magic words that in anime implies something else?
That was the point from which was clear things could have worked out. They had the chemistry. She was again all tsundere. Again Tsumugu pushed her to be what she is, opposite to her crush that was leading her changing herself just because.
Kaname's alert state: DEFCON 4.

The third one happened during the day city trip, in which beside the blush moment, the most important event happened on the train going back home. They had a brief conversation in which for the very first time Chisaki was interested about something involving him specifically. That had to be important. Nobody and never again someone cared about Tsumugu asking him whatever, so the fact that Chisaki asked him a personal question, about his family, was really something big.
Then he asked about how he felt something different about her voice and she replied affirmatively but without being explicit about it. And even making a reference on how girls don't like perceptive guys.
All that conversation was a subtext one. Implying as at that point the level of their understanding was already far over the level of every other possible couple around. Except probably Akari and Itaru. I really liked that moment.
On aside note, with her last sentence about the girls liking to me Chisaki seemed to be flirting without realizing it.
Kaname's alert state: DEFCON 3.

Then she confessed to Hikari. (A really important and necessary step in her personal grewth).

Finally that emotional ending. During the ceremony finally Chisaki was able to address those feelings she wasn't aware of. Probably the most evident and undebatable scene of them, so I won't indulge over it.
Kaname's state: defeat.
But the moment Chisaki embraced Tsumugu, and figuratively herself, because basically she was ready to step forward and live her life ... well from that specific moment onward her world suddenly started collapsing around her to the ground.

She lost everything so it would be pointless making a list of what she lost. But I think it's important to point out two things.
First, the very moment she embraced Tsumugu and her life Kaname went MIA. A terrible timing wasn't it? A thing to feel really guilty for.
And then just later, as confirmed this episode, the girl she thought had feeling for Tsumugu went missing, when she instead started living with the same guy, harboring feelings for him. Another thing to really guilty for. So well, it's not difficult to see why she acted like she acted during those five years.
And despite that we saw her blushing during the flashbacks, but then Gramps happened. Hitting again her hard. Another piece of her life that seemed to leave her.

So, the steps to me are and were more or less clear and progressive. Not saying that they were easy to catch nor that anyone have to agree with me, even if I think that it was all there. I wanted just to point out my personal view of the matter :)


Last note, I think the show intentionally made them hard to be seen, even because we have to keep in mind that the first cour has been told by Hikari's point of view, who was focused solely on Manaka, in fact he misread Tsumugu actions like driven by his (Tsumugu's) interest toward Manaka, when instead he was trying hard to help them and the land people to blend together. (He defused Chisaki back then avoiding possible misunderstanding, dug the pool, volunteered first for the ceremony, defended Manaka from being bulled). So the hints have been even mixed up with Hikari's misleading view of the events.

Sorry If I wrote too much ;)
Mar 25, 2014 4:14 AM

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All right Sayu! Gotta hand it to her, that confession was great! Love her :D
Also them Kaname feels ;_;! Never really like him "much" since he's always acting cool and perfect, but now this though..I understand what he's going through..

At this rate Miuna will be alone :/

Chisaki though...jeez she's a wreck, I am so tired of her BS...
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aryaII said:
A bit late here, you know, 18 pages :)
Anyways, I want to add just my two cents to somehow balance this debate about the Tsumugu/Chisaki's hints during the first cour.
So here how I see things.

In my opinion their mutual feelings were born and grew during the first cour.
Here the key points. I'll try to be as concise as I can. So if I may sound absolute at times is mostly for that reason. :)

The first key moment happened When Tsumugu defused Chisaki's attempt to lie for Hikari's sake. During that conversation, after that Tsumugu scolded her, she stated as Tsumugu was not the good guy she thought she was.
This step is somehow acknowledgement of each other. As Tsumugu pointed out the previous episode he saw her as the sea, as much as Chisaki clearly changed her vision of Tsumugu from just the sea slug guy to the "bad" guy. Even becoming all tsundere. All signs of incoming romance in my book. That was the very moment they "saw" each other I think. Even for Chisaki.
This was relevant even because we saw at the same time how her crush on Hikari affected her in a bad way and that Kaname was ready to let her lying.
Instead Tsumugu acted, challenging her, going apparently against her, but instead trying to push her to be a better person. Another pivotal aspect in building up, generally speaking, a possible relationship in my book.
Kaname's alert state: DEFCON 5.

The second key moment was when she collapsed and Tsumugu took her to the sea. Before a beautiful scenery they had another confrontation in which Tsumugu went again against her. She was saying that she had to change for wrong reasons, again due to Hikari's. And he without hesitation criticized her behavior and then added how he didn't dislike her as she was.
At that point Chisaki said that she hated Tsumugu. Isn't that one of those magic words that in anime implies something else?
That was the point from which was clear things could have worked out. They had the chemistry. She was again all tsundere. Again Tsumugu pushed her to be what she is, opposite to her crush that was leading her changing herself just because.
Kaname's alert state: DEFCON 4.

The third one happened during the day city trip, in which beside the blush moment, the most important event happened on the train going back home. They had a brief conversation in which for the very first time Chisaki was interested about something involving him specifically. That had to be important. Nobody and never again someone cared about Tsumugu asking him whatever, so the fact that Chisaki asked him a personal question, about his family, was really something big.
Then he asked about how he felt something different about her voice and she replied affirmatively but without being explicit about it. And even making a reference on how girls don't like perceptive guys.
All that conversation was a subtext one. Implying as at that point the level of their understanding was already far over the level of every other possible couple around. Except probably Akari and Itaru. I really liked that moment.
On aside note, with her last sentence about the girls liking to me Chisaki seemed to be flirting without realizing it.
Kaname's alert state: DEFCON 3.

Then she confessed to Hikari. (A really important and necessary step in her personal grewth).

Finally that emotional ending. During the ceremony finally Chisaki was able to address those feelings she wasn't aware of. Probably the most evident and undebatable scene of them, so I won't indulge over it.
Kaname's state: defeat.
But the moment Chisaki embraced Tsumugu, and figuratively herself, because basically she was ready to step forward and live her life ... well from that specific moment onward her world suddenly started collapsing around her to the ground.

She lost everything so it would be pointless making a list of what she lost. But I think it's important to point out two things.
First, the very moment she embraced Tsumugu and her life Kaname went MIA. A terrible timing wasn't it? A thing to feel really guilty for.
And then just later, as confirmed this episode, the girl she thought had feeling for Tsumugu went missing, when she instead started living with the same guy, harboring feelings for him. Another thing to really guilty for. So well, it's not difficult to see why she acted like she acted during those five years.
And despite that we saw her blushing during the flashbacks, but then Gramps happened. Hitting again her hard. Another piece of her life that seemed to leave her.

So, the steps to me are and were more or less clear and progressive. Not saying that they were easy to catch nor that anyone have to agree with me, even if I think that it was all there. I wanted just to point out my personal view of the matter :)


Last note, I think the show intentionally made them hard to be seen, even because we have to keep in mind that the first cour has been told by Hikari's point of view, who was focused solely on Manaka, in fact he misread Tsumugu actions like driven by his (Tsumugu's) interest toward Manaka, when instead he was trying hard to help them and the land people to blend together. (He defused Chisaki back then avoiding possible misunderstanding, dug the pool, volunteered first for the ceremony, defended Manaka from being bulled). So the hints have been even mixed up with Hikari's misleading view of the events.

Sorry If I wrote too much ;)
could someone possibly list the episodes in which these interactions take place?
Mar 25, 2014 8:11 AM

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heterohomo said:
could someone possibly list the episodes in which these interactions take place?


Episode 4, 5, 9, 12 and 13.
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Mar 25, 2014 8:32 AM

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aryaII, you made the accurate way to interpret the scenes, unfortunately some stubborn users in this forum would try to "correct" you with their version of the interpretation (which is wrong and told by Kaname himself as wrong the last episode, he confirmed Chisaki's been into Tsumugu since before the timeskip) because they refuse to let go the fact Chisaki was never that into Hikari. She even said so herself in episode 12, she wasn't afraid of a rejection (so she wasn't that much into him), but that their relationships would change.

It was a puppy crush based on how safe she felt (once again confirmed by the storyboards of how she came to 'love' him). Like how Manaka's crush on Tsumugu was based on blinding admiration.

I'll say the first time she noticed Tsumugu was episode 2, when she observed he was a good guy, almost comparing him on par with Hikari in her mind by noticing his real actions unlike Manaka who "liked" him for something a shallow as to 'fish her up'. When he went against her, in episode 4, she felt her expectations betrayed and went typical anime tsundere. How was this not obvious, I wonder.

It's typical love interest behavior. Maybe some people are watching too much crappy harem shows and not enough real romance anime.
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Kaname's words "It would be like how Akari-san console Hikari, the damage would be too great" was brilliant. To be honest i expected that to be happened earlier, since its a 5 years time-gap to his crush.

And I'm still quite disappointed that there wasn't one for Chisaki beside her crying like so much each time she faced the mirror and realized that she's way older (I guess she totally accepted that she couldn't be with Hikari anymore?)
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trasal said:
Kaname's words "It would be like how Akari-san console Hikari, the damage would be too great" was brilliant. To be honest i expected that to be happened earlier, since its a 5 years time-gap to his crush.

And I'm still quite disappointed that there wasn't one for Chisaki beside her crying like so much each time she faced the mirror and realized that she's way older (I guess she totally accepted that she couldn't be with Hikari anymore?)


Chisaki didn't cry for that reason. She's crying because she's so different and has changed, her romantic feelings are to Tsumugu. She knows this, she's trying to convince herself they weren't and was spelled aloud clearly when she vented with Kaname. She doesn't want Hikari, she wants to use him as an excuse to cling to her unchanged past because she feels guilt about being awake without her friends.

She never wanted Hikari that much, even when she actually liked him. She was the one destroying any attempts to catch his attention when she had the chance.

I wasn't scared that I'd be rejected, I was scared that if I said how I felt, all of our relationships would change.


This was Chisaki in episode 12, no less. She is afraid of change. However, her feelings for Tsumugu seem to be stronger, so she feels devastated and suicidal now because she's torn between fear, guilt, joy and love and that hurts her. It hurts her to be stagnant while before she was comfortable on that bubble. That pain is the one she wants to get the rid of.
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^ While I do agree that her romantic feelings are for Tsumugu, I think her feelings to Hikari was real either, and to me those words are just her excuse because she loves Manaka as much as she loved Hikari. Though I guess you're right about her reason for crying.

And the reason why she never make any attempt was probably because, Manaka, and that she no longer feel that much to Hikari. 5 years are long enough to make people move on at love relationships + she already got some feeling to Tsumugu ever since that eps where Kaname pointed out that she could make that expression to Tsumugu (I forgot which eps).

Still, I want at least some scene which showed her confess once again to Hikari, that she used to love him but she loves Tsumugu more now
Mar 25, 2014 12:33 PM

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^ Absolutely, she had feelings for Hikari, but those were akin to a puppy love crush like the ones Manaka had for Tsumugu. She was hung up in what "loving Hikari" meant to their dynamics to keep the harmony since forever rather of loving Hikari itself. By that time, she's starting to have feelings for Tsumugu (Kaname's jealousy makes it very obvious) like Manaka's maturing her feelings for Hikari.

When she's rejected by Hikari, she sounds a bit relieved, just to note there's no real heartbreak, I think this scene is to mirror Manaka resigning and figuring out her feelings for Tsumugu when he fished her a second time. This resolution was placed on hold, Chisaki's growing feelings became mixed with guilt and trauma and Manaka was gone and her ability to love was taken, but their decision for Tsumugu and Hikari began the day of the ceremony which was anticipated with their mutual growth in the course of the episodes. Naturally, Hikari's devotion to Manaka now and the time Tsumugu spent with Chisaki reinforced the feelings, but according to Kaname (and I agree with him), the result would have been the same.

Manaka is far more honest with her feelings Chisaki is. Or I should say, Chisaki isn't so indecisive as Manaka, but she's more of a coward to admit them while Manaka's more easily confused and indecisive but she's bold when she's sure of them. It's easy to confuse their problems.

Manaka's indecision can be misrepresented as cowardice. While Chisaki's cowardice and fear can be misinterpreted as indecision.
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http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/000/828/828169/
Summary and screenshots from episode 25


Oh oh seems like both Miuna and Manaka are wearing the clothes of the Ojousama :/.

I wonder if we will get to know more about Tsumugus grandfather.
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Nagi no Asukara Episode 25 “Love, is Just Like The Sea.”

So this is what I got from the official website.

To regain Manaka’s feelings, and to postpone the day of disaster, Hikari and the others begin the Ofunehiki, with Manaka as the sacrifice once again. The day before the festival, Akira was told that Manaka’s pendant would reveal who she had feelings for. During the festival, Manaka’s pendant is torn away from her in the commotion, and Miuna dives into the sea after it. In the sea, the thing Manaka had whispered to the sea slug, is finally heard.

Source: http://how-about-noh.tumblr.com/post/80768412745

I have feeling that this "I love... Hi-kun" from preview is this what Manaka tell sea slug.
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LittleStar said:
Nagi no Asukara Episode 25 “Love, is Just Like The Sea.”

So this is what I got from the official website.

To regain Manaka’s feelings, and to postpone the day of disaster, Hikari and the others begin the Ofunehiki, with Manaka as the sacrifice once again. The day before the festival, Akira was told that Manaka’s pendant would reveal who she had feelings for. During the festival, Manaka’s pendant is torn away from her in the commotion, and Miuna dives into the sea after it. In the sea, the thing Manaka had whispered to the sea slug, is finally heard.

Source: http://how-about-noh.tumblr.com/post/80768412745

I have feeling that this "I love... Hi-kun" from preview is this what Manaka tell sea slug.
I hope that it is true ^_^.

But now I am scared for Miuna. "During the festival, Manaka’s pendant is torn away from her in the commotion, and Miuna dives into the sea after it"
Hope nothing bad will happen to her T_T.

I really hope we will get some Tsumugu/Chisaki moments aswell.
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Well... I kinda wish Hikari could heard it, instead of Miuna.
I don't want wait for last episode when Hikari find out
that Manaka love him, and she have something like admiration for Tsumugu.
Eh... I kinda sad that Tsumugu don't tell Hikari something like "Mukaido doesn't love me,
she love somebody else" and then Hikari start to think about it and then he realizes she love him *.*

I don't really understand why Miuna is in Ofunehiki outfit? O.o
They really spoiled whole ending in opening? O.o
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I am so nervous about these last 2 episodes it's crazy. :(
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Weeird.

Why can't anime characters ever just live with being alone?
Why is there always a way out, an escape path?

Everyone loves you, Kaname. Even Chisaki. Everyone was waiting for you. That should be enough - romantic love isn't everything.
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Omg can't wait!!
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Good episode.
The resolutions are coming.
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Sayu! The first girl to truly win in this show. FINALLY there's a relationship going somewhere in this show. It only took 24 episodes. Chisaki's going to be as confusing as ever. She clearly likes Tsumugu, just won't admit it. She needs to forget about Hikari and move on.
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I've been wanting to see Sayu x Kaname happen for a very long time so this episode was really satisfying to me.

All that's left now is:
Hikari x Manaka
Chisaki x Tsumugu
Miuna x That guy in her class. Maybe.
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As much as I don't really like a Chisaki x Tsumugu pairing, it actually pains me to see Chisaki act this way (and I don't mean in it in a sympathetic way either), and now I'm just thinking ship this one off and move on. I've read a few of these posts now, and some are saying that Chisaki's feelings were more of a puppy dog love (and that it was akin to Akari comforting Hikari, according to Kaname), more than a real love. I don't think that's so true. She fell in love with Hikari the moment he lead her and Manaka out of that forest (or whatever you wish to call an underwater jungle lol). In all these romance animes, it's one of those things that usually make the girl fall for the guy.
So my point being, no matter how much it pains me to see a Chisaki x Tsumugu pairing, just ship it already because Chisaki's attitude is starting to grow on me (in the worst possible way) and I don't want it to become the focus for the final two episodes.
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Hurray for Saya and Kaname, Kyaaaa!
I guess some pairings or all of the expected ones will come out after all
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Damn it... So Tsumugu x Chisaki is canon now... One couple I didn't want to happen, but feared, might happen, really happened... I sorta felt Kaname there, always the odd man out, poor guy... I want Kaname x Sayu now. Oh, also Hikari x Miuna.

But really, the characters of this series seem alive, like the friendship between these 5 really exist somewhere.

Poor Manaka...

Awesome plan there, Tsumugu.

Sayu... She did it, she finally said it... So happy for her! And also for Kaname... Heck yeah! Another ship is basically canon, so happy. Who knew, this will end up my OTP from this anime. I mean, just look at these two. Two lonely people finally (almost) together, that's so beautiful..

Can't describe this episode in right words, it was just beautiful...
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Looks like Miuna is now the odd one out -- having not confessed to Hikari yet. Maybe next episode?
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What a beautiful episode

The best scene was definitely the one between Kaname and Sayu,it was heart breaking seeing kaname cry like that. I’m glad that he finally let it out all out and reveled to Sayu just how lonely he was. He always felt left out being the only one that no one loved (he always felt like he had no one, not even a family) .I actually think that kaname just wanted someone to love him romantically which is the reason why he cried when he heard Sayu’s confession .And Sayu was amazing too, she has grown so much during the show and her confession was really well done in my opinion .

Chisaki was a bit frustrating to watch but it’s understandable and I don’t blame her for feeling like this .After all, she’s just trying to find her place and where she truly belongs and I don’t find her actions to be that unrealistic like many people say. Lots of people in real life are forced to change and grow due to some harsh circumstances, they end up regretting many things and wish to go back to those old times and re-live their lives .Chisaki’s situation is very unfortunate , she’s forced to choose between the past and the present even if it at the expense of her true feelings .I hope that she finds a way to move one somehow.

I hope that Manaka gets her feelings back but I have this bad feeling that Miuna is going to be the one to return them to her .
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Wow dem feels at the part between Sayu and Kaname
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5/5

Well! The first pair is formed, now we have to see who will be left out of the game, if everything will be discounted, Miuna leave us pens. If everything will be distorted and original Miuna will go into hibernation and will marry one day svelgiatasi with Akira, so everyone will be happy. * _ *
Plot is not bad, very sweet story in the end, I liked the speech of Kaname and Sayu.
Drawings cute, nice to see old friends, too bad the girls have remained somewhat anonymous.
Akira is too cute and funny! ^ _ ^
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Oh kami, the feels ;_;

All aboard S.S. Tsugumu x Chisaki but I really feel sorry for Kaname
Kaname is such a great character; I pity him a lot.
But there's always Sayu-chan~

The OST is just perfect! I need to get one of those CD's soon...
Also, that smile on Miuna's face while with Hikari is so heart-touching.

Did anyone else noticed the poor animation/art on Hikari's face for this episode?
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Wow that was an amazing episode 8/10
I really liked this show!
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I said I like Tsumugu in the previous episode discussion, but good job to the writer for destroying that in the first 2 minutes of this episode. I don't dislike him now, but just felt meh, his choice of word and action really made me not able to like him. This series handles the romance really badly in my opinion, sigh. I liked and disliked the part with Kaname, I liked how he was lonely and afraid that no one is waiting for him when he wakes up, but then he now knows that Sayu has always been waiting for him; I disliked the KanamexSayu ship, it sort of feels like Sayu is Kaname's second choice.

Sigh, staying together for 5 years must necessarily means that she has to fall for him? Sigh, whatever, I don't care about that ship anymore.

Lol, Akira was sulking, so cute. ^^
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satisfying ending.

Man those feels.
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I was really hoping Chisaki would confess to Tsumugu too, hopefully she will eventually. Sayu's confession scene was perfectly done. Akira's "confession" for Manaka was adorable, too. Hope the Ofunehiki goes well.
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http://puu.sh/7WyJj
^ Yo, I heard you got a stalker. . .

Well the feelings are everywhere! Getting pretty hyped for the ceremony, some crazy stuff will go down.

I'm glad Kaname finally has somebody, it felt like out of everybody he was in the worst situation, but he partly has himself to blame for never showing his feelings.

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oh man. tsumugu's confession seriously made me go "awww" and i really wanted chisaki to be with him D: and when chisaki ran straight into kaname and he wanted to help her to figure out her feelings for tsumugu i was just making the weirdest noises. gosh, kaname made me want to cry - the way he was smiling and talking about how he was always the odd one... gosh, what a poor little sweetheart ;A;

"i'll start looking at you properly. not as a little girl, but as a girl who's my age." oh god, that was perfect. i was seriously scared kaname would be like "ah, you like me? i actually like chisaki, but when i think about it now... okay, let's date." but they did a great job here. it's not rushed or unrealistic and it's a cute, slow start of their relationship :')

so my guess is that we'll end up with sayu/kaname, chisaki/tsumugu and manaka/hikari. that would mean miuna will be the only one left...
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That akira reaction when he's rejected by manaka lol. I hope the ofunehiki will go smoothly without prpblems. KANAME X SAYU SHIP IS SAILING ATLAST. Glad for sayu because kaname will see her as a girl .
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Nice Sayu actually managed to confess her feelings and it looks like she got accepted! And lol Akira at the beginning that was pretty cute :p

I really wonder what's next though!
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I've always liked Tsumugu, but now, I don't really know.., he's showing all these 'emotions' with a darn dead pan face, is that so hard to make???
T_T Kaname... noooo, but good for them I guess..
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damn, too much damage taken for kaname, but gladly sayu is the one waiting for him. epic scene
Apr 19, 2014 8:34 AM

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Congrats to Sayu. Her love came true.
Apr 19, 2014 10:42 PM

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I find Kaname's character to be really really really ironic. I seriously wonder if he was added into the story as an afterthought, simply to break the fourth wall.

Like seriously, his entire character arc, drama focusing on him, and total character development (assuming this episode resolved everything with him) can be summarized as "I feel like people don't care about me". Which, is completely legitimate for him to feel, seeing as he gets his feelings completely blown off when he lets them out, and then the rest of the time he keeps everything bottled up and nobody really notices or tries to get him to open up (besides Sayu).

But, in a writing perspective, his character has received the absolute least attention and development. His role as a "main" character is not because of his impact on the story, but mostly because he's just always there. He's just.. around. His character arc is always in the background, never given the proper attention it deserves in order for him to be considered a main character. It's almost as if the writers don't care about him. Even the resolution (assuming this episode was it) to his problems was a quick, brief scene where everything was resolved with one single conversation. And even then, most of the emotional weight of that scene was focused on Sayu. Hell, Sayu is more of a main character than Kaname is, in terms of attention given by the writers.

I really honestly wonder if his character was even an original part of the initial script, and he was just added in to create more drama with Chisaki/Tsugumu. But then the writers were like, shit, now this guy's here, but we don't really have anything for him to do. He can't be a main character unless we give him some sort of emotional development. And then ironically and intentionally, in an incredibly self aware approach, made his entire character arc revolve around how he feels like the "odd one out" and neglected.
Apr 20, 2014 9:53 PM

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Finally some love to Kaname
Apr 27, 2014 6:31 PM

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Deym, so many feels in this episode.

Tsumugu had been turned down. BOOOOOOOOOOM!! Chisaki doesn't love him. Chisaki still loves Hikari. when Chisaki cried while talking to Kaname, i feel like crying.

KanamexSayu is starting. Good job Sayu, I'm happy for her.

I love Manaka-chan :3


I'm excited to see what's going to happen next, but I'm not happy that it will end.

Season 2!!
Apr 28, 2014 11:50 AM

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Great episode. I almost teared up in Kaname scene. About fucking time, I waited for so long for Kaname to show his true feelings. Excellent scene. 5/5
May 1, 2014 7:22 PM

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1. how tragic for ojoushi-sama to find her lover already dead cuz he was searching for her

2. So trick the sea god with a manikin that has manaka's pendent, which holds her emotions, to get her feelings back… quite the plan

3. So much cheese between sayu & kaname on that railroad crossing

7/10
May 17, 2014 11:41 PM

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Everyone except one person can potentially get someone. Unfortunately its probably Miuna.. ;-; (still praying though)
May 29, 2014 11:46 AM

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Pretty cool episode, now 2 bros are hooked up. : )
OriginANIME said:
Everyone except one person can potentially get someone. Unfortunately its probably Miuna.. ;-; (still praying though)

This love hexagon is very complicated. ヽ(゚Д゚)ノ
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Jun 25, 2014 5:27 AM
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See, I told ya, guys!!
Kaname and Sayu's scene almost made me cry.....it was beautiful. I thought that Kaname will rush towards Sayu after Sayu confessed and he will get hit by the train and then DRAMA ahahaha.
Kaname and Sayu is the only pairing I am happy to happen. Kaname is really lonely after all this time, he is really all alone (I have put myself in his shoes, and it hurts.....it hurts). Sayu became a great character, and she saw Kaname's loneliness. Kaname and Sayu <3 Kaname will start to love Sayu and not out of pity.
Looks like they will end the Anime with a Boatdrift Ceremony, and something will happen during the ceremony which will make them realize their true feelings therefore will bring an end to this love infinite-tagon.

Manaka and Hikari - I like and I don't mind.
Chisaki and Tsumugu - I don't like but I don't mind.
Kaname and Sayu - <3
I can already see what will happen to poor Miuna ;_;
Well, let's finish this!!
Jul 6, 2014 2:14 PM

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Saya x Kaname - well, even it fell kinda weird for him to stop loving Chisaki at once - at least someone will get happy. And as I understand it he didn't just want Chisaki he just wanted anyone to care of him.

Tsumugu being rejected by Chisaki is just due to her still being frozen up in time, she just have it hard when she needs to being selfish as feelings of others are more important to her. And he was literally forcing it onto her in that scene. But I guess soon there will come the time where she would be asked what SHE wants the most.

And finally - you can clearly see pairs in this episode at last. But that would mean Miuna would be left alone which would be pretty sad.

All in all, now it all depends on Manaka - as her feelings will tell the end. Though my bet is it would be her who would be left odd - cause friendship is something she helds the most.
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Well, Tsugumu's confession to Chisaki didn't exactly work out, even though it seems like Chisaki really does love him. I hope they are able to get together by the end of the series.

And, FINALLY someone's confession actually DID work out; it seems Kaname might actually give Sayu a chance. I really did feel for Kaname during that scene when he said that he thought no one was waiting for him... Good for Sayu and Kaname, though!

Great episode! Only 2 more left ;__;
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