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amoex said: Aichiro said: That future that the girl saw could have been a hint for another movie after this one. I really hope that wasn't a spoiler though. I would really hate her power if it was lol. What future are you talking about? All the future in this one are in other KnK movies. The "future" Shizune saw when she notice Shiki waiting for Mikiya outside the cafe is actually what might happen at KnK7, which... Mikiya managed to handle once again. Oh yea! Thanks, I just realized that the first part of the movie is a side story, and the second part of the movie is the actual sequel. This is a first for me seeing a side story and a sequel in one movie, the writer really is amazing. |
| I dont think I can say anything new ,something that hasnt been said already so I will refer to a small easter egg I found. When Touko was playing with her gameboy, the chars in the game,the two sisters , werent in a really good relationship. Geez Touko, self insert much? |
| Wow.... Just wow... It's been many years since I started watching this.All I can say is that it's been fantastic. I have no complaints whatsoever only praiseworthy things. This movie was amazing once more. Superb animation and music and interesting story. It really made me feel attacked to both Shizune and Mitsuru and even that Old lady. The most amazing of course was Mana. So cute and smart. Great movie, great series. Just sad that it's over for real now. |
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| I want to ask about one thing when Mana said that her father owe her (Mother of Mifune) a lot so she meant SHIKI? Well she said father not papa so I don't think she meant Mikiya. |
| Really awesome...I just wished Touko and Kokutou 10 years later were in it. I hope they plan on more movies. |
YuenSan said: Touko would be the same in appearance...unless if puppet bodies age as well....Really awesome...I just wished Touko and Kokutou 10 years later were in it. I hope they plan on more movies. |
| Man, that was really good. Kara no Kyoukai was already one of my favorite anime series, but this last movie cemented its place at the top for me. Loved every part. Music, art, plot, and DAT NOSTALGIA. |
skudoops said: Yes.So did anyone else like the credits song? |
skudoops said: So did anyone else like the credits song? I like how you mention that of all things. I did really like it though. |
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| Excellent, really superb. Ufotable animation was top notch as always, Kaijura delivered us an excellent soundtrack and the ending song by Kalafina was beautiful. Still cant believe Kara no Kyoukai has come to an end. Gonna miss Shiki, Mikiya and Touko. By the way, who voiced Seo friend in the school? Somehow I think the seiyuu is Nao Touyama. |
| 01:08:06 dat fazakon 9/10 for this movie. |
| Isayama Hajime should be awarded The Manga with The Highest Inconsistencies of Characters' Appearances. He keeps performing multiple plastic surgeries on those Shingeki No Kyojin characters in a SINGLE chapter. Yes, I've read up to the latest chapter of Shingeki No Kyojin manga. Forced myself to read through the kidsketching chapters after the anime's ended. At least from now on, I only have to go through the hell once a month. Patiently awaiting SNK TV/movie/OVA anime-sequel. The 2015 SNK live-action movie would probably suck. |
| 6.5/10 production values were pretty good, cant say the same about the history, i wasnt bored with it though i thought the extra chorus was more interesting |
silversaintMar 11, 2014 12:29 PM
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| Kara no Kyoukai..what a nostalgic. Mana is cute. |
ZapredonMar 12, 2014 10:02 AM
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion. http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30 It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist. |
| This was kinda crappy. The first story wasn't bad but it wasn't great either. The 2nd story was crap. The only good part was seeing an adult Shiki. Otherwise it was grating. I couldn't stand Mana. Acted like your typical 'kawaii,' 'moe' character. |
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lucjan said: In other words this movie wasnt badass enough.And it doesnt have to be either since that's not what it is about.This was kinda crappy. The first story wasn't bad but it wasn't great either. The 2nd story was crap. The only good part was seeing an adult Shiki. Otherwise it was grating. I couldn't stand Mana. Acted like your typical 'kawaii,' 'moe' character. |
lucjan said: This was kinda crappy. The first story wasn't bad but it wasn't great either. The 2nd story was crap. The only good part was seeing an adult Shiki. Otherwise it was grating. I couldn't stand Mana. Acted like your typical 'kawaii,' 'moe' character. Your opinion is crap! |
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| That was a good watch. Its nice to see Shiki and Mikiya really did have a future together. I dont care how much he knew Shiki liked him, Mikiya mustve been scared to death she might kill him during their honeymoon. |
Old_RavenMar 13, 2014 1:54 PM
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| Stunning movie - Animation, OST and the entire structure of the movie was top-notch. As expected by Ufoable - Nah, I may think that they've surpassed the previous KnK movies with this excellent adaptation. A few more months to itch through until the Fate Stay Night remake. |
| 「一人殺せば犯罪者だけど、千人殺せば英雄になれる。百万人殺せば征服者だし、絶滅させれば神よ」 |
| Extra Chorus wasn't as good as Mirai Fukuin imo. A lot of people seem to believe that, but I just don't see it. |
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| Meh, really. What was the point of Shizune? She was a pointless subplot and quite a bit of screentime was spent on it. Kamemura was a flat villain. Why would you leave you daugther with a stranger? The last part with the fortune teller was cool, though, and of course the animation and OST were top-notch. |
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| This was a nice what I believe to be a conclusive movie for the series. Mana is so cute and Shiki looks even better with longer hair. I wonder if Shiki didn't kill Mitsuru because she thought he would become a reliable ally in the future. I honestly thought they were gonna reveal that Shizune became evil or something lol. I'm still confused about the old woman in the alley, did she also tell Mikiya's future in the past or did the meeting with the other Shiki helped create the future where Mikiya and Shiki are together? |
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ssjokg said: lucjan said: In other words this movie wasnt badass enough.And it doesnt have to be either since that's not what it is about.This was kinda crappy. The first story wasn't bad but it wasn't great either. The 2nd story was crap. The only good part was seeing an adult Shiki. Otherwise it was grating. I couldn't stand Mana. Acted like your typical 'kawaii,' 'moe' character. What does being badass have anything to do with what I said? The story in the first arc was the weakest among KnK. There was no depth to it and it felt contrived; it didn't add anything to the KnK world at all. I honestly felt like I was watching filler. The story in the 2nd arc was complete fan service (not the ecchi kind). I didn't need to see 15 minutes of a self-important, pretentious little shit who is the very definition of cliche. There was nothing original about her. cupc said: lucjan said: This was kinda crappy. The first story wasn't bad but it wasn't great either. The 2nd story was crap. The only good part was seeing an adult Shiki. Otherwise it was grating. I couldn't stand Mana. Acted like your typical 'kawaii,' 'moe' character. Your opinion is crap! Your attitude is crap. |
lucjanMar 15, 2014 10:05 PM
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lucjan said: ssjokg said: lucjan said: In other words this movie wasnt badass enough.And it doesnt have to be either since that's not what it is about.This was kinda crappy. The first story wasn't bad but it wasn't great either. The 2nd story was crap. The only good part was seeing an adult Shiki. Otherwise it was grating. I couldn't stand Mana. Acted like your typical 'kawaii,' 'moe' character. What does being badass have anything to do with what I said? The story in the first arc was the weakest among KnK. There was no depth to it and it felt contrived; it didn't add anything to the KnK world at all. I honestly felt like I was watching filler. The story in the 2nd arc was complete fan service (not the ecchi kind). I didn't need to see 15 minutes of a self-important, pretentious little shit who is the very definition of cliche. There was nothing original about her. cupc said: lucjan said: This was kinda crappy. The first story wasn't bad but it wasn't great either. The 2nd story was crap. The only good part was seeing an adult Shiki. Otherwise it was grating. I couldn't stand Mana. Acted like your typical 'kawaii,' 'moe' character. Your opinion is crap! Your attitude is crap. But it did add interesting backstory to the KnK world, totally opposite of what you said. The fact that SHIKI was told about her death before she died, was revealed in the end. That was one of the best moments in the whole franchise for me, and made the entire movie. |
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| i liked the first story! quite an interesting story~ wasn't such a big fan of the second story though, it was quite confusing. |
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cupc said: But it did add interesting backstory to the KnK world, totally opposite of what you said. The fact that SHIKI was told about her death before she died, was revealed in the end. That was one of the best moments in the whole franchise for me, and made the entire movie. There wasn't any weight to the dramatic moments because the story was weak. The story felt like filler to me. None of the characters were unique either. And I don't see how Shiki's eventual death being prophesied adds anything to previous movies. |
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lucjan said: The story was like most of the movies.Someone has a supernatural ability and Mikiya or Shiki try to help in a way.And it also shows us that they actually have a bright future.cupc said: But it did add interesting backstory to the KnK world, totally opposite of what you said. The fact that SHIKI was told about her death before she died, was revealed in the end. That was one of the best moments in the whole franchise for me, and made the entire movie. There wasn't any weight to the dramatic moments because the story was weak. The story felt like filler to me. None of the characters were unique either. And I don't see how Shiki's eventual death being prophesied adds anything to previous movies. Your problem is that it wasnt intense.There was no reason for it to be. And SHIKI's death being prophesied along with the continuation of his dream is very important for his character since what we knew about him from the previous movies was only from words of Touko or Shiki. So yeah Mirai Fukuin adds interesting backstories. |
ssjokg said: lucjan said: The story was like most of the movies.Someone has a supernatural ability and Mikiya or Shiki try to help in a way.And it also shows us that they actually have a bright future.cupc said: But it did add interesting backstory to the KnK world, totally opposite of what you said. The fact that SHIKI was told about her death before she died, was revealed in the end. That was one of the best moments in the whole franchise for me, and made the entire movie. There wasn't any weight to the dramatic moments because the story was weak. The story felt like filler to me. None of the characters were unique either. And I don't see how Shiki's eventual death being prophesied adds anything to previous movies. Your problem is that it wasnt intense.There was no reason for it to be. And SHIKI's death being prophesied along with the continuation of his dream is very important for his character since what we knew about him from the previous movies was only from words of Touko or Shiki. So yeah Mirai Fukuin adds interesting backstories. Intensity is not the problem. It's the depth of the story. Most of the movies, with the exception of movie 6, had more character development. The stories were deeper and the events had impact upon the main characters, as opposed to some guy with ability to see the future. Shiki acted like a robot in the first half. She did nothing that I didn't already expect. In each of the original movies, other than 6, we learned more about Shiki and Shiki grew from her experiences, which didn't happen in the first half. I understand the 2nd part of this movie tries to build upon the original movies but what they were building was meaningless to me. The conclusion of the 7th movie was enough. We saw the two together. Why did we need confirmation to something we already knew? Having this movie explain Mikiya and Shiki's future didn't matter because it should have been assumed from movie 7. So don't tell me my problem was the intensity. That's a load of bull. My problem was a lack of depth in the story, cliche and annoying characters, and the filler atmosphere throughout the entire movie. SHIKI's death isn't something I needed to an entire movie to understand. |
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lucjan said: ssjokg said: lucjan said: The story was like most of the movies.Someone has a supernatural ability and Mikiya or Shiki try to help in a way.And it also shows us that they actually have a bright future.cupc said: But it did add interesting backstory to the KnK world, totally opposite of what you said. The fact that SHIKI was told about her death before she died, was revealed in the end. That was one of the best moments in the whole franchise for me, and made the entire movie. There wasn't any weight to the dramatic moments because the story was weak. The story felt like filler to me. None of the characters were unique either. And I don't see how Shiki's eventual death being prophesied adds anything to previous movies. Your problem is that it wasnt intense.There was no reason for it to be. And SHIKI's death being prophesied along with the continuation of his dream is very important for his character since what we knew about him from the previous movies was only from words of Touko or Shiki. So yeah Mirai Fukuin adds interesting backstories. Intensity is not the problem. It's the depth of the story. Most of the movies, with the exception of movie 6, had more character development. The stories were deeper and the events had impact upon the main characters, as opposed to some guy with ability to see the future. Shiki acted like a robot in the first half. She did nothing that I didn't already expect. In each of the original movies, other than 6, we learned more about Shiki and Shiki grew from her experiences, which didn't happen in the first half. I understand the 2nd part of this movie tries to build upon the original movies but what they were building was meaningless to me. The conclusion of the 7th movie was enough. We saw the two together. Why did we need confirmation to something we already knew? Having this movie explain Mikiya and Shiki's future didn't matter because it should have been assumed from movie 7. So don't tell me my problem was the intensity. That's a load of bull. My problem was a lack of depth in the story, cliche and annoying characters, and the filler atmosphere throughout the entire movie. SHIKI's death isn't something I needed to an entire movie to understand. Wow the butthurt because a movie didnt have "more depth". My turn to say "thats a load of bull". A continuation movie doesnt have to be something more than the previous ones.It is a fine addition to the series. That you wanted "more development" when that wasnt possible due to the main story being completed doesnt make the movie filler or the characters cliche and annoying.The movie wasnt bad because your expectations werent fulfilled. And in this movie the mains were Shizune,Mana and Kamekura.And the movie did a fine job with them.That you didnt care is your problem not the movie's. You did need it.So far were never able to see what HE thought. |
ssjokg said: Wow the butthurt because a movie didnt have "more depth". My turn to say "thats a load of bull". A continuation movie doesnt have to be something more than the previous ones.It is a fine addition to the series. That you wanted "more development" when that wasnt possible due to the main story being completed doesnt make the movie filler or the characters cliche and annoying.The movie wasnt bad because your expectations werent fulfilled. And in this movie the mains were Shizune,Mana and Kamekura.And the movie did a fine job with them.That you didnt care is your problem not the movie's. You did need it.So far were never able to see what HE thought. How is defending my opinion an aspect of being butthurt? If anything you're the butthurt one; the one who had to reply to my original opinion on the movie and couldn't let my views go. That depends on what you want in a movie. I want development upon the previous in a sequel. Since this wasn't a development I was unsatisfied. Since the story didn't add anything useful to the series it felt like a filler; an unsatisfying filler. What was the point of this movie other than feeding into those wanting more? Furthermore, the cliche characters aren't a reaction to my dissatisfaction with this movie's development. You've watched far more anime than I have so I'm surprised you don't understand where I'm going with this. The characters, Shiki and Mikiya included, weren't unique at all. I have seen their personalities and mannerisms countless times before in different titles. All this tied together made for an unsatisfying experience. That's based off my views and where you get off thinking my views are unwarranted, I don't know. When I first commented in this thread, I didn't reply to anyone else. All I did was leave my opinion; this movie being crap a part of that opinion. Where do you get off discrediting that? How does this movie expose what 'he' thought? We received one reference to him and that was of his death. |
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| You are butthurt that this wasnt what you wanted.You are butthurt that your unreasonable expectations, since the first 7 movies already achieved them , werent fulfilled. The movie did exactly what is was promising to do .Present two new stories one about Shizune and a young Kamekura and the other about Mana and the grown up Kamekura.It fulfilled its p"promise" and in a well done way. What do you mean about cliche or not unique?First of all you are vague and second you have already seen them like this in all the previous movies. Cliche? I dont know many characters that can see the future, are tormented by absolute fate and need help by a character that in the previous movies was good only for detective work.That was the first time Mikiya, as part of Hollow Shrine, actually managed to help others without Touko or Shiki. And I dont know many chars that want to challenge how far they can take their powers or see how they changed after they lost them. Or both of them used in the same series to show an antithesis. And I certainly dont know any daughter-like characters that know and act like a long lost personality of their mother and influence the lives of other people. If by cliche you mean cute girl in trouble,a changed "bad guy" and a "self-important, pretentious little shit"(I have no idea how you liked any Shiki) then no.That wasnt their only trait. I dont understand were you are going with this, even if I have watched more anime than you , because what matter is the execution.And the movie did it very well.Just like the previous ones.Because if I simplify things like you do now, Mikiya is cliche because he is the overly kind guy that helps and never hurts others.His freaking Origin is "One that will never hurt others, more so than anyone else".I have seen many like him but his execution was different. It's not about his death a=but about his dream.And we saw his reaction.From leaving the mother of Mifune alone(he intended to kill her) all the way to humming Mikiya's song. |
| You keep using that word but I don't think you know what it means. Not liking something doesn't mean I'm butthurt, otherwise everyone would be butthurt about many, many things. By your logic you're butthurt about Ai Mai! Moe Can Change! (first anime I pulled off your list with a bad rating). I don't remember the producers ever coming up to me and promising me anything. I watched the movie because it had Kara no Kyoukai in the title. Cliche in their personalities and behavior. It shouldn't be that that hard to understand. And future telling wasn't invented with KnK buddy. Mana is very different than Shiki so I don't understand your confusion with my interest in Shiki. Maybe you didn't attend Kindergarten but the concept of people not liking the same things is universal. I disagree with your argument. I don't think this movie did the series justice at all and I've explained why. You have to accept people like different things than you or face looking like a douche all your life. I've only been responding to you to share my views on the movie but you just don't give up. Get over it. |
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| Ai Mai! Moe Can Change! was promising a scifi moe comedy.I didnt get that last part. Mirai Fukuin gave EXACTLY what it promised in the synopsis or novel. That you are going blindly into a series or movie is your fault. And you want the "your list " game? Fine. Attack on Titan a 10 when it has the most overused type of characters and twists in anime history but Mirai Fukuin is crap? What has fortune telling, alone, have to do with what I said?You talk about MF lacking depth but you are the one only looking on the surface, and I am surprised you like the KnK series for the characters' depth. You were the one that called Mana a "self-important, pretentious little shit".How was Shiki, all 3 of them , any different before the end of the 7th movie?The only difference is that Mana didnt try to push others away. Your reasons for not liking it dont make sense.It's like watching an ecchi series and complain because you dont like ecchi. Btw Your attitude is crap. |
ssjokgMar 16, 2014 3:23 PM
| I'm sick of trying with these arguments so I'll reply in statements. - There is nothing unusual about watching a sequel that is a part of a series you like. - There was no game. I pointed that anime from your list out because I was trying to show you that disliking an anime doesn't make you butthurt. Evidently you didn't comprehend that. - You said you didn't know many characters that could see into the future so that's why I brought it up. - Shiki wasn't any different. She was exactly how I expected her to act. I wanted more. The KnK series always gave me more each time a new movie came out. - You're so dense, man. I just don't know how to handle you. I went into this movie expecting what KnK usually delivered for me. I was disappointed when it didn't deliver. Quoting me is hilarious though. Thnx for the laughs. |
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| Funny you call this an argument when the only thing you did was saying "lack of depth"' "cliche" and "unique" but never expanded on them and when I pointed out the depth and execution you resorted to "personal opinion", list attacks, straw man and ad hominem. lucjan said: Funny because it did.I went into this movie expecting what KnK usually delivered for me. I was disappointed when it didn't deliver. |
ssjokg said: Funny you call this an argument when the only thing you did was saying "lack of depth"' "cliche" and "unique" but never expanded on them and when I pointed out the depth and execution you resorted to "personal opinion", list attacks, straw man and ad hominem. lucjan said: Funny because it did.I went into this movie expecting what KnK usually delivered for me. I was disappointed when it didn't deliver. Are you blind? I fleshed it out so many times for you. And I don't know how you think you're using the term ad hominem but I never resorted to those. Everything I've said had been directed toward your arguments. How did it deliver upon my expectations if it didn't deliver upon my expectations? Re-read your response. |
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lucjan said: ssjokg said: Funny you call this an argument when the only thing you did was saying "lack of depth"' "cliche" and "unique" but never expanded on them and when I pointed out the depth and execution you resorted to "personal opinion", list attacks, straw man and ad hominem. lucjan said: Funny because it did.I went into this movie expecting what KnK usually delivered for me. I was disappointed when it didn't deliver. Are you blind? I fleshed it out so many times for you. And I don't know how you think you're using the term ad hominem but I never resorted to those. Everything I've said had been directed toward your arguments. How did it deliver upon my expectations if it didn't deliver upon my expectations? Re-read your response. No you never fleshed it at all. You just kept repeating "lack of depth","cliche" and " other movies were better" without actually talking about WHY the characters dont have depth and are cliche. Read post 89 and 91 Because you had false expectations.As I said before going blindly into the movie was your fault.You dont judge something for what you wanted it to be but for what it is and what it promised to do. And even if your "expectations" were depth and uniqueness, the movie did have them.You not caring because they are new characters and the 2 old mains werent the focus, again , isnt the movie's problem. You may not have liked the movie but that doesnt mean that it failed to do what it aimed to do. |
| - If you don't think I fleshed my point out at all and that I've only used those phrases/words over and over again then you're a lost cause. I think you just can't cope with the fact that someone liked something different than you. - I never insulted you randomly. I've already related my responses to what you have written here. None of it is random. - How am I supposed to know what the movie will be like if I've never seen it? It doesn't make any sense. - The movie didn't have what I expected it to have. I didn't like the movie. And to me it failed to do what I wanted it to do. Why can't you accept the fact that people are different than you? |
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| Yes I am a lost cause because you cant explain shit. You didnt explain why Mikiya had nothing new.I proved he had. You didnt explain why Shizune, Mana or Kamekura were overused chars.I explained why they werent through their execution. Of course. Synopsis.Easy right? Do people watch something for what it wants to show or for what they want? Oh you are different from everyone else here, I dont doubt that. |
ssjokgMar 16, 2014 4:38 PM
| I fairly liked it. Although I still prefer Movie 5 and 7 of KnK, this was a nice spin-off. Didn't get much action but that's fine, I simply love the atmosphere and that kind of tension that only KnK can delivers me. Btw, the fanboy in me wanted to see more of Kokutou and Shiki together in the end. |
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| Pretty good. I teared up a bit at the SHIKI stuff. When Mana said that her father thanked the old woman I presume she actually meant that SHIKI thanked her as well. |
SimmianPrimeMar 23, 2014 10:58 PM
| Good movie. New characters were interesting and Shiki was badass as always. Mana! Glad we got to see Shiki's daughter. I really liked the last bit with the male Shiki. Perfect way to end the movie. Hoping they will make more Knk stuff in the future. |
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| did they really include a doge in the movie i think they did |
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