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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Mm, pretty calm episode on most parts for the first half. I'm pretty sure Mayuka has a thing for Aoba. Dat reminiscing of memories. Looks like they did the coupling right again this time. I'm curious about this Fiona girl though. I think she might be a major character and knows Dio quite well. |
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| No OP. The enemy is thinking Hina is being a betrayer. Everything he knows is gone, except for the school. His decision to stay. That ship is from Dio's hometown? The family is safe, but the father is strict, it seems. |
tsubasaloverJan 27, 2014 8:08 AM
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tsubasalover said: No OP. Enemy thinking Hina is being betrayal. Everything he knows is gone, except for the school. His decision to stay. That ship is from Dio's hometown? The family is safe, but the father is strict, it seems. "Enemy thinking Hina is being betrayal" Dat grammar. Did you use Google Translate to write the comment or something? Also, GRRR I want to watch this. Episode overview: Ok. I am not sure how to put this... But are most mecha shows like this? Not that it's bad but I am noting a few trends: Peace time music sounds very cheerful. Aoba goes on a date-like event with Mayuka, and around his school. His lil sister probably isn't alive at this point, also. Second, the portrayal of the enemies/allies. Portraying the Zogillia's forces so obviously bad. I'm not too sure how to describe it, but the commander of the opposing forces in this ep for example, had a menacing and nazi-like feeling to him, as well as having his foces named the 666th force. While the allies have a lax and easy going captain that isn't drilled with rules. Secondly, the cast of the main protagonists are all very friendly, where as the enemies are portrayed as zombie-like soldiers shouting "ALL HEIL ZOGILLIA!" or "Death to enemies!" Is this what people called conventional? Now the Fiona little sister and the father adds an interesting topic... But the dad, does he have to look like every other dad in Anime? God... Dio reminds me of so many other protagonists with his situation. Well, at least there are secondary protagonists. |
GodlyKyonJan 26, 2014 1:34 PM
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| Lol at this current thread turning into commentary on someone's English skills when it's obvious that English isn't everyone's first language. This was a decent episode that focused more on character development than all else. Two major things of note for me: 1. The missing OP. Usually series starts to cut out OPs toward the end of the season or at the end of an arc, but this episode actually cut out its OP despite 1) this being very early into the season and 2) this not being some ending to any arc. This means that Sunrise actually has far more content to cover than anticipated and it could be a good thing if they don't mess up the pacing. 2. Aoba's sister. Note that Mayuka looked for Watase Tsubasa when she was trying to find Aoba's sister. We all know that women tend to take on their husband's last name, and I imagine this is overwhelmingly the case in Japan, which means Tsubasa might still be alive under a different name -- potential as a plot twist later on when her identity is revealed. Meanwhile, Aoba still hasn't figured out that the Hina he's met on the battlefield isn't the Hina that saved him. What a denseball. |
| Thread cleaned Off-topic comments about proper usage of English removed. I'm sorry guys but please focus on this week's episode. |
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| Seems like Aoba has lost everything =/ Nice battle at the end of the episode, I can´t get enough of this coupling system >_> Dio a part of the royal family? It looks like he has a dark past, we´ll see in next episode =) Fuckin´ love the ED theme <3 |
| Mayuka is so cute. She's not going to die soon, right? |
| where can i watch episode 4 with english sub? |
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ThangLong said: Thread cleaned Off-topic comments about proper usage of English removed. I'm sorry guys but please focus on this week's episode. Sure! All heil zogillia! I can't believe I missed all those comments... helenobell said: GodlyKyon said: tsubasalover said: No OP. Enemy thinking Hina is being betrayal. Everything he knows is gone, except for the school. His decision to stay. That ship is from Dio's hometown? The family is safe, but the father is strict, it seems. "Enemy thinking Hina is being betrayal" Dat grammar. Did you use Google Translate to write the comment or something? Also, GRRR I want to watch this. Episode overview: Ok. I am not sure how to put this... But are most mecha shows like this? Not that it's bad but I am noting a few trends: Peace time music sounds very cheerful. Aoba goes on a date-like event with Mayuka, and around his school. His lil sister probably isn't alive at this point, also. Second, the portrayal of the enemies/allies. Portraying the Zogillia's forces so obviously bad. I'm not too sure how to describe it, but the commander of the opposing forces in this ep for example, had a menacing and nazi-like feeling to him, as well as having his foces named the 666th force. While the allies have a lax and easy going captain that isn't drilled with rules. Secondly, the cast of the main protagonists are all very friendly, where as the enemies are portrayed as zombie-like soldiers shouting "ALL HEIL ZOGILLIA!" or "Death to enemies!" Is this what people called conventional? Now the Fiona little sister and the father adds an interesting topic... But the dad, does he have to look like every other dad in Anime? God... Dio reminds me of so many other protagonists with his situation. Well, at least there are secondary protagonists. A number of mecha shows are indeed like that. It's part of the reason why this show's been getting so much flak from viewers- they feel that it's nothing worth talking about. While it is largely clichéd, I personally think execution of this show is decent, and the use of time travel puts a nice spin on things. Yeah... IF that's the case then this is no different from all those TLR clones, or rather, harem series. But so far, I'm not too bored with the series. Sure it's not anything exciting, but at least the show is well done enough to pass my time. |
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| anyone noticed? "In order for a coupling to be successful, both pilots must be able to merge their consciousness. For that to happen, they must completely trust and accept each other." but in episode 2 Dio just said " im going to be coupling with you. Just do as i say! " looks like they change the coupling "rules/requierment" to their convenience whenever they want it. that aside it was a good episode. |
Kerozinn said: anyone noticed? "In order for a coupling to be successful, both pilots must be able to merge their consciousness. For that to happen, they must completely trust and accept each other." but in episode 2 Dio just said " im going to be coupling with you. Just do as i say! " looks like they change the coupling "rules/requierment" to their convenience whenever they want it. that aside it was a good episode. Err... Maybe it wasn't 100% successful? Or just that Aoba unilaterally trusted Dio? |
| "Justice Never Dies!" - Kenji Endou, 20th century Boys |
| Well, IDK where this is going, but this is going to probably be a closed loop time line so don't expect anything Steins;Gate level here Also, what were people saying about the comments?? |
| "Justice Never Dies!" - Kenji Endou, 20th century Boys |
| Suck's for Aoba not to see his family, although it is 70 years in the future. Dio and his father not getting along so well? Hope to get some history with Dio's family. |
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| 1. Not knowing why Hina is the enemy really keeps me watching as well as the battles 2. Got a feeling that Aoba & Dio are somehow related after seeing Dio's family 7/10 |
billybob300cJan 27, 2014 5:25 PM
zannet_t said: Lol at this current thread turning into commentary on someone's English skills when it's obvious that English isn't everyone's first language. This was a decent episode that focused more on character development than all else. Two major things of note for me: 1. The missing OP. Usually series starts to cut out OPs toward the end of the season or at the end of an arc, but this episode actually cut out its OP despite 1) this being very early into the season and 2) this not being some ending to any arc. This means that Sunrise actually has far more content to cover than anticipated and it could be a good thing if they don't mess up the pacing. 2. Aoba's sister. Note that Mayuka looked for Watase Tsubasa when she was trying to find Aoba's sister. We all know that women tend to take on their husband's last name, and I imagine this is overwhelmingly the case in Japan, which means Tsubasa might still be alive under a different name -- potential as a plot twist later on when her identity is revealed. Meanwhile, Aoba still hasn't figured out that the Hina he's met on the battlefield isn't the Hina that saved him. What a denseball. Wouldn't it be interesting if Aoba is related to Dio. Dio's father and Aoba both have brown hair and Fiora's eyes are green. |
billybob300c said: What? How can they possibly be the same person??1. Not knowing why Hina is the enemy really keeps me watching as well as the battles 2. Got a feeling that Aoba & Dio are the same person after seeing Dio's family 7/10 |
| "Justice Never Dies!" - Kenji Endou, 20th century Boys |
| So all it took to restore Dio's trust in Aoba was one stupid lil speech? Seems a bit to easy. And of course Aoba's family is unfindable, if they were, they could actually reveal if he makes it back to the past. |
| Aoba's family and friends are dead. His house gone but now he wants to protect everyone here. Plus meet Hina face to face to find the truth!!! GodlyKyon said: billybob300c said: What? How can they possibly be the same person??1. Not knowing why Hina is the enemy really keeps me watching as well as the battles 2. Got a feeling that Aoba & Dio are the same person after seeing Dio's family 7/10 Same here. Dio being Aoba's great great great....grandson or his sister's child. My first thought was that Dio being a clone of Aoba. But i'd go with my other theory. |
AnimeFan500 said: Aoba's family and friends are dead. His house gone but now he wants to protect everyone here. Plus meet Hina face to face to find the truth!!! GodlyKyon said: billybob300c said: What? How can they possibly be the same person??1. Not knowing why Hina is the enemy really keeps me watching as well as the battles 2. Got a feeling that Aoba & Dio are the same person after seeing Dio's family 7/10 Same here. Dio being Aoba's great great great....grandson or his sister's child. My first thought was that Dio being a clone of Aoba. But i'd go with my other theory. I doubt it... He may be the great greate grandpa or something like that... But having a clone just so you can do coupling seems rather elaborate to involve time travel. |
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Kerozinn said: the translation is kind of erratic by adding the adverb "completely" as i did not hear anything equivalent in the audio.. all they need is to trust each other and accept the coupling and it doesn't have to be on a deep friendship level.. what's more important about what the professor said is the one after that, where emotion is the main problem.. in the previous episodes, though they did not completely trust each other, they still have a sense of unity in trying to survive, defeat the enemies or follow the orders given to them.. this time, though, while they are also concerned with that, Dio is distracted by his remorse towards Aoba for force decoupling with him from the previous episode, effectively hurting him in the process..anyone noticed? "In order for a coupling to be successful, both pilots must be able to merge their consciousness. For that to happen, they must completely trust and accept each other." but in episode 2 Dio just said " im going to be coupling with you. Just do as i say! " looks like they change the coupling "rules/requierment" to their convenience whenever they want it. |
| LOL dio sure changes his mind quickly that pink girl single handedly salvaged this episode. i so wanna drop this show though lol. something tells me the hina plot wont be that great anyway but i still want to know what happens. |
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| I do not mind Mayuka but Hina is still the best! I doubt this will have a conclusive ending... |
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| *coupling fails* Commander: "they're still not getting along?!" Oh, that actually surprised you? lmao. That theory that Dio might be related to Aoba's sister is possible. At first I thought it was weird that it was his sister he looked for and not his parents but then it also made sense it'll be her he'll look for since she's still most likely alive. But I just can't shake the feeling that him saying his sister's name (was it ever mentioned in the previous episodes that he had a sister?) was intended and his sister's going to play a huge part later on. You know like when the twist happens and we're all like "WHERE THE HECK DID THAT COME FROM?!", the scriptwriter's going to be like "uh but we did kind of foreshadow it in episode 4 you know." Just a thought :D |
"May those who accept their fate be granted happiness." "May those who defy their fate be granted glory." |
xchee said: *coupling fails* Commander: "they're still not getting along?!" Oh, that actually surprised you? lmao. That theory that Dio might be related to Aoba's sister is possible. At first I thought it was weird that it was his sister he looked for and not his parents but then it also made sense it'll be her he'll look for since she's still most likely alive. But I just can't shake the feeling that him saying his sister's name (was it ever mentioned in the previous episodes that he had a sister?) was intended and his sister's going to play a huge part later on. You know like when the twist happens and we're all like "WHERE THE HECK DID THAT COME FROM?!", the scriptwriter's going to be like "uh but we did kind of foreshadow it in episode 4 you know." Just a thought :D Aoba's sister was seen in episode 1. When he left his house. She was eating breakfast. |
dokidokidoing said: I'm surprised too he could do it so easily. He did get forcibly decoupled after all, and it seemed to be quite a big hit on him. But I guess your explanation does make sense; he's a soldier afterall. I think Aoba needed a harsher scolding than that though. We get it that he saved the ship, but it doesn't dismiss the fact that he decoupled. I'm afraid he's going to do something stupid again.mugiwara84 said: So all it took to restore Dio's trust in Aoba was one stupid lil speech? Seems a bit to easy. Knowing Dio, he probably was thinking of the more pressing matter at hand- the fact that his family's ship was being attack- and realized that doubting Aoba in battle would benefit nobody. I wouldn't be surprised is Dio continues to be skeptical of Aoba's story off battle. He's proud, stubborn and a rather distrusting- but Dio's a soldier. He knows how to be practical when it really counts. Hina did say that Dio was waiting for him too, that with him being a very trusting person like you said, pretty sure he was 1000% trusting Dio. |
TynkerJan 27, 2014 7:31 PM
| This is a bit too one-dimensional. I mean Aoba is able to kill people so easily. He hasn't even shown regret at killing people. And Dio is an annoying prick. |
| Dio's dad Aobas son? or Aobas sister son? might make some sense to why they can link up |
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| Eh a little back story, with a calm atmosphere for the 1st half wouldn't hurt. But 70 years ago..... things have change quite a lot for Aoba. Now, Mayuka is getting along with Aoba huh, but he still have doubts about Hina. Great teamwork for rescuing Dio's family, despite their problems of their trust, only to be short live when his father butts in. |
LostArc said: zannet_t said: Tagged to reduce length of post. Wouldn't it be interesting if Aoba is related to Dio. Dio's father and Aoba both have brown hair and Fiora's eyes are green. It is absolutely possible that Aoba is related to Dio. Like I said, there's a potential for Aoba's sister popping up later as a plot twist. And Aoba's sister would be about the age of someone's grandmother right now. She could very well have married into the Weinberg family (which would explain why "Watase Tsubasa" returned no result) and become Dio's grandmother. |
| I can feel this series being rushed :( |
Inugirlz said: This is a bit too one-dimensional. I mean Aoba is able to kill people so easily. He hasn't even shown regret at killing people. And Dio is an annoying prick. Dio is badass. Over the Aoba thing, he was more focused on helping Dio´s family and making up for the mistake he made last chapter. At least, that´s what it seemed to me. |
Inugirlz said: This is a bit too one-dimensional. I mean Aoba is able to kill people so easily. He hasn't even shown regret at killing people. And Dio is an annoying prick. Aoba has nothing left to protect other than the people on Cygnus ship. It's also a kill-or-die-together situation. So he got through the psychological barrier. I thought they made it very clear already. Such a great episode to tie things up, this also means that Aoba cannot possibly return to the past due to the war. He can't peacefully live either. I fear the ending would be a problem later since Hina will definitely be forced to go into the past from the future. Maybe Aoba won't end up with Hina after all. I have a feeling Weinberg family is related to Aoba through his sister, she might be the paternal grandmother of Dio Weinberg. |
| Eh, a pretty bland episode. Moar Hina to create more angst is needed. |
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| Pretty decent. Except, I don't mind killing, I actually love it. Specially here, where we have a war going on. But, MC doesn't even flinch an eye when he kills all those of the enemy side. That to me makes him seem robotic and bland. He's supposed to be a civilian, a regular HS boy who's never held a weapon before. I want some more emotion out of him, not necessarily him crying or being agonized by guilt over his actions and the stuff happening around him, since I hate that, but at least showing an emotion of what he's doing. Also, I may be pointing this out late, but I didn't like how Hina magically disappeared when she was traveling with him through the wormhole. I've never like that take on time travel. I prefer the type of time travel that was shown on the reboot of Startreck. |
| It's probably different in terms of killing when you see the person or not. if the pilots are in their mecha, the whole mecha got exploded, you wouldn't be seeing their actual death. Comparing to stabbing someone with a knife and seeing that physical person in front of you. I think Aoba's more of helping Dio in a way. And LOL at Dio papa, definitely his papa. Dio needs to open up more to Aoba. Hopefully through his family. I like this anime. |
sentience said: I have a feeling Weinberg family is related to Aoba through his sister, she might be the paternal grandmother of Dio Weinberg. That is what I think too. |
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| Meh, episode was o.k.. Only 8 more episodes, so they are probably going to rush this. Dio is an annoying prick. |
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| Okay episode, but they made Dio agree way to quick |
| wouldnt it be good if his little sister was dios grandmother |
| Well not much action but good to see Aoba starting to accept his fate a bit more. We won't know until he meets Hina again though -.- He actually got of pretty easily, just with one punch. I expected him to get chewed on by the crew. Pretty easy going I see ^^; Dio seems to have family problems. Well his imouto is cute so that's another bonus. I wonder if she'll play a bigger role?...I also agree with the theory that Dio's imouto is a grand daughter of...maybe Aoba's sister? Well, that would be a nice twist, Aoba being Dio's ancestor lol XD That would explain why he looked at Dio's little sis like he saw her before. |
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