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May 29, 2013 9:33 AM

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Bad good ? i dont know, the story was like a code geass replica and it was not as epic as CG , so people hate it . Overall it isn't that bad , there are more ridiculous anime out there.
May 29, 2013 10:28 AM
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Guilty Crown was great, depressing and exciting anime. 9/10
May 29, 2013 5:45 PM

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yuichi333 said:
Guilty Crown was great, depressing and exciting anime. 9/10


Not sure about great but it was depressing and exciting and full of emotion for me.

8/10 cuz plotholes.
May 29, 2013 10:50 PM

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i heard really bad things about it

but i gave it a shot because i liked some of the OST

i enjoyed it, but the ending was confusing as fuck

still not nearly as bad as people make it out to be
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Physiicx said:

Not sure about great but it was depressing and exciting and full of emotion for me.

Fortunately, that Arisa survived, but I was very sorry for the Hare and Inori.
The end of episode 15 was the saddest.
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I enjoyed GC very, very, very much.

Somuchso that I made a MAL account and all.
I thought it was pretty great. Cried like a baby too.
May 31, 2013 4:30 PM

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i love code geass,gurren laggan,eureka 7 would i like this
Jun 1, 2013 2:43 AM

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Calumz said:
i love code geass,gurren laggan,eureka 7 would i like this


most likely.


I sing for my people, I sing for my friends
I sing for justice, so that the world finally ends
I sing for my father who rests high above
and also for my mother who I deeply love
But as I sing I wonder, what is it for?
when there is no one who sings for me anymore...
Jun 2, 2013 7:23 AM

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I was also not sure if I should watch it. I decided to start watching it and I didn't regret it at all.
Actually I watched the whole thing in 2 days marathoning.
I really, really enjoyed watching this series. I never thought it's bad. But you need to watch this anime really concentrated, if not, you won't understand a lot of things later.

It's quite similar to SAO and Code Geass like a lot of other users said. I think it's as good as these shows.

It's also kinda depressing and emotional, so I don't think a lot of people were bored while watching this.


9/10 btw
Jun 4, 2013 7:32 PM

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yeah the thing is when I talk to any of my friends in real life who watched this show pretty much everyone liked it a lot. But as soon as you go online there's just so much hate for it. I think people are scared that their gonna be deemed to have bad taste if they like this show, which is pretty lame.
Jun 4, 2013 7:35 PM
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Yup. t just follows just like Code Geass, and it is cliche like hell.
Jun 4, 2013 9:18 PM

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The best argument i've seen for it being bas was either the person was a CG fanboy (which i though was a shit Anime), or it was cliché, but almost anything that comes out for Animes are full of cliches and tits shots..Personally i looooooved the anime, would deff reccomend to others 8/10. :)
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Yup. t just follows just like Code Geass, and it is cliche like hell.


The similarity between code geass and guilty crown shouldn't come as a surprise. The main composers were the same after all, they just switched their roles.
On another note, I've heard Yoshino loves cliches and if his profile is accurate it shows in the scripts he was in charge of.

I do kind of feel bad for him though. This was his chance to put himself in another light seeing how this was supposed to be an ambitious original production but he blew his chance.
Jun 5, 2013 2:30 PM
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Guilty Crown is great. I really enjoyed the series when I was watching it.

The overall content I believe was good.
Although there are some flaws I must point out first. The execution and pacing itself was horrible. Writers left many plot holes and confusing twists that were left for viewers to think for themselves. The story and concept itself I believe was very interesting and unique, but it's undermined due to the wave of faults and flaws. If one looks past the flaws, it's actually quite a beautiful anime. Animation and the soundtrack can speak for itself because it's subliminal. Character development was good, well only for some characters. I really think a second season could fix that (I REALLY WANT A SECOND SEASON <3) It's not the worst anime ever created, however it's not the greatest masterpiece either. It really depends on you. Some hated it, and some really loved it.

A rating for the anime itself would be about 7/10.
My enjoyment level would be 10/10, it really tugged my heart strings hehe.
Jun 5, 2013 10:36 PM

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Bored me to death so dropped it..

Jun 5, 2013 11:06 PM

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No its not that bad specially if you are a newcomer.
Jun 5, 2013 11:20 PM

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The best argument i've seen for it being bas was either the person was a CG fanboy (which i though was a shit Anime), or it was cliché, but almost anything that comes out for Animes are full of cliches and tits shots..Personally i looooooved the anime, would deff reccomend to others 8/10. :)
CG was a shit anime in your opinion.

So everything has cliches so this can't be criticized for them? That's not true. And it's how they use the cliches, every anime has at least some, so it matters mostly how they use them and most people thought Guilty Crown didn't do a good job.
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IntroverTurtle said:
Nagisalover said:
The best argument i've seen for it being bas was either the person was a CG fanboy (which i though was a shit Anime), or it was cliché, but almost anything that comes out for Animes are full of cliches and tits shots..Personally i looooooved the anime, would deff reccomend to others 8/10. :)
CG was a shit anime in your opinion.

So everything has cliches so this can't be criticized for them? That's not true. And it's how they use the cliches, every anime has at least some, so it matters mostly how they use them and most people thought Guilty Crown didn't do a good job.
I didn't think CG had that many cliches. While I really enjoyed the anime, it wasn't the clichés that bothered me, but rather the character development.
Jun 6, 2013 3:07 PM
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Guilty Crown is definitely better than 90 percent of other anime.
Most anime is mediocre productions, but Guilty Crown was great.
Jun 6, 2013 4:46 PM

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Guilty Crown is definitely better than 90 percent of other anime.
Most anime is mediocre productions, but Guilty Crown was great.


So production values are more important than plot, characters, coherence, etc.?
You must think Michael Bay movies are masterpieces then.
Jojolion anime when?
Jun 6, 2013 5:06 PM

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I personally found guilty crown to be amazing...in my opinion it wasn't bad at all well except for the ending
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Jun 14, 2013 3:18 PM

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If you're watching an anime to enjoy an anime, you'll like it. If you're watching it to find all the inconsistencies, plot holes, and simply to criticize, then you won't.

I watched Code Geass and tried to like it for 18 episodes and then I simply couldn't take it anymore. The art bothered me, the setting bothered me, I didn't like any of the characters except maybe one or two. I watched Guilty Crown and really enjoyed all aspects of it. Some of it was weak, such as the way they chose to handle Inori's character development, but overall I fell in love with it. Art, animation, and OST are all exceptional. I adored Shu, Hare, Inori, Ayase, and Haruka. The rest kind of fell through the cracks for me, but it's much better than can be said for Code Geass, in my opinion.

Don't get me wrong, though. I really wanted to like Code Geass. It's not like I love Guilty Crown, therefore I hate Code Geass. Because they're both from the same writiers, yes, there are similarities--but the differences are what made me love Guilty Crown a lot more than Code Geass.
Jun 14, 2013 3:24 PM

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GC + SAO were the first anime I watched before joining MAL and watching many more anime. I enjoyed them back then, but now I realize the amount of flaws they had. Sure GC animation and soundtrack was probably the best I've seen yet, but the plot was a train wreck.
Jun 14, 2013 3:29 PM

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Having watched 1 episode, it looks like a big shit, but maybe I'm wrong.
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Jun 18, 2013 6:09 PM

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It would be better only if had 1000 Elephants.
Jun 18, 2013 6:17 PM

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Jun 18, 2013 6:19 PM

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good music, pretty animation, everything else sucks :|

Jun 19, 2013 12:37 PM
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It's good if you look at it with a certain perception. Many people say there is no character development or plot but there certainly is.

(SPOILERS)

Shu and Inori isn't a romantic love. It is a pure love. Unconditional. Shu goes through a lot of development. He's weak, he slowly finds his resolve, he is crushed, he pretends to be strong, he chooses himself to be the tryrant, he gives his life up for the people that threw him out like trash. Inori is supposed to be a constant. She shows how much Shu is changing. Also the fact that Inori is always by Shu's side despite whatever he does.

Basically a kid who wants a normal life is given an unnatural power. "With great power comes great responsibility." He tries to run away from his responsibilities because he is weak willed. Yet he eventually stands up with the help of other people. When he loses the girl that had faith in him, he blames himself because he believes his weakness is what caused her to die. He chooses to become the evil king so that he can lead the people to freedom. He is betrayed and left to die. YET comes back to sacrifice his life again.

Origin of virus is the forbidden apple. The virus means sin. The apocalypse means the removal of free will/hell. The void genome is the responsibility and the burden. Daath is the materialization of the human species' unconscious will.

This anime is based off Christianity. Which is why it's based on Christmas. An OVA called Lost Christmas. Gai holding a cross. Adam and Eve.

I actually wrote an explanation here: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=537188&show=0

I also watched it again and realized that Shu fighting Daath means that Shu is fighting against the will of the world. I honestly think that's beautiful. Not only is Shu sacrificing his life unconditionally but he fights against the manifestation of the will of 6 billion people in the world.

I love this anime because it really shows human nature. Shu isn't perfect. He's far from it. But he takes his experiences and learns and chooses what he believes will benefit those around him. Even if it means he has to give up his life.

I am religious so keep that in mind.
Jun 19, 2013 12:42 PM

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Bro, you can explain that without adding religion in it.

But anyway, I like your opinion on the show.




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Hitler was good, objectively.
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Some people complain about the ending, but I think it's very good, but also very sad.
Jul 2, 2013 10:36 AM
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yuichi333 said:
Guilty Crown is definitely better than 90 percent of other anime.
Most anime is mediocre productions, but Guilty Crown was great.


So production values are more important than plot, characters, coherence, etc.?
You must think Michael Bay movies are masterpieces then.


I agree with you so much yuichi. Imo, this anime is definitely worth watching. Sure, no stellar storyline or anything like that, but it isn't all that bad too, at least it kept me interested all the way through. If there is anyone telling you otherwise, they are just wildly exaggerating. If the anime really sucked, how is it so popular? ;)

The music/animation/voice acting are also one of the best you'll find on the market. It's funny how one piece, which doesn't look great animation-wise but has a good story, is praised but guilty crown which is the other way round, is drawing so much flak. GC is only held back by its average story from being a superb anime while it excels in all other aspects, maybe with the exception of its characters. Sure, the same thing can be said to Avatar, which has cliched storyline, but you can never deny its success and great animation.
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zktaichou said:
Nidhoeggr said:
yuichi333 said:
Guilty Crown is definitely better than 90 percent of other anime.
Most anime is mediocre productions, but Guilty Crown was great.


So production values are more important than plot, characters, coherence, etc.?
You must think Michael Bay movies are masterpieces then.


I agree with you so much yuichi. Imo, this anime is definitely worth watching. Sure, no stellar storyline or anything like that, but it isn't all that bad too, at least it kept me interested all the way through. If there is anyone telling you otherwise, they are just wildly exaggerating. If the anime really sucked, how is it so popular? ;)

The music/animation/voice acting are also one of the best you'll find on the market. It's funny how one piece, which doesn't look great animation-wise but has a good story, is praised but guilty crown which is the other way round, is drawing so much flak. GC is only held back by its average story from being a superb anime while it excels in all other aspects, maybe with the exception of its characters. Sure, the same thing can be said to Avatar, which has cliched storyline, but you can never deny its success and great animation.
People like bad things.

Becuase most people see story as the most important part of an anime. People say story, characters, etc. Most people only praise the art, animation, and music.
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IntroverTurtle said:
zktaichou said:
Nidhoeggr said:
yuichi333 said:
Guilty Crown is definitely better than 90 percent of other anime.
Most anime is mediocre productions, but Guilty Crown was great.


So production values are more important than plot, characters, coherence, etc.?
You must think Michael Bay movies are masterpieces then.


I agree with you so much yuichi. Imo, this anime is definitely worth watching. Sure, no stellar storyline or anything like that, but it isn't all that bad too, at least it kept me interested all the way through. If there is anyone telling you otherwise, they are just wildly exaggerating. If the anime really sucked, how is it so popular? ;)

The music/animation/voice acting are also one of the best you'll find on the market. It's funny how one piece, which doesn't look great animation-wise but has a good story, is praised but guilty crown which is the other way round, is drawing so much flak. GC is only held back by its average story from being a superb anime while it excels in all other aspects, maybe with the exception of its characters. Sure, the same thing can be said to Avatar, which has cliched storyline, but you can never deny its success and great animation.
People like bad things.

Becuase most people see story as the most important part of an anime. People say story, characters, etc. Most people only praise the art, animation, and music.

Animation which consists of good choreography, fights etc.

In the end, Guilty Crown sold quite well for a standalone anime (as in, not being an adaptation), so it was a success. It's also raising in score.




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Hitler was good, objectively.
Jul 2, 2013 12:58 PM

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It was good in first 2 episodes (IMO, episode 1 is great) .... then it went downhill, but still not that bad .... then it became a mess in the second part

The only good things about this series are animation and music

In short, very disappointing series

ps. I personally find that the ending is not that suck as many complain

6/10 for me (watch if you have time but don't expect much)
Jul 2, 2013 12:59 PM

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Immahnoob said:
It's also raising in score.
Is it?

That makes me happy :D
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Red_Keys said:
Immahnoob said:
It's also raising in score.
Is it?

That makes me happy :D

It was 7.74 when I watched it, now it's 7.85.

Why does it make you happy, anyway?




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Hitler was good, objectively.
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Immahnoob said:
Red_Keys said:
Immahnoob said:
It's also raising in score.
Is it?

That makes me happy :D

It was 7.74 when I watched it, now it's 7.85.

Why does it make you happy, anyway?


Because it needs to be more recognized >:D.
Jul 4, 2013 12:16 AM

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The bad part of guilty crown is in the 2nd arc. If the 2 arcs were made into seasons. Season 1 would have excellent critics making it almost one of the best anime ever produced, and season 2 would be one of the worst anime ever produced. Overall because it just is, it is an okay anime in my opinion >.>
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^ The second part was better.

Immahnoob said:
Red_Keys said:
Immahnoob said:
It's also raising in score.
Is it?

That makes me happy :D

It was 7.74 when I watched it, now it's 7.85.

Why does it make you happy, anyway?
Because it deserves a 10.
Jul 4, 2013 1:23 AM

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Of course it does.

But I'd be happy with an 8.10 at the moment.




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Hitler was good, objectively.
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Yes and should be banned.
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Physiicx said:
Immahnoob said:
Red_Keys said:
Immahnoob said:
It's also raising in score.
Is it?

That makes me happy :D

It was 7.74 when I watched it, now it's 7.85.

Why does it make you happy, anyway?


Because it needs to be more recognized >:D.

As much as I love GC, it's (un)fortunately already recognized. As a bad anime. But hey, at least it's ranked 67 for popularity.
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tingy said:
Physiicx said:
Immahnoob said:
Red_Keys said:
Immahnoob said:
It's also raising in score.
Is it?

That makes me happy :D

It was 7.74 when I watched it, now it's 7.85.

Why does it make you happy, anyway?


Because it needs to be more recognized >:D.

As much as I love GC, it's (un)fortunately already recognized. As a bad anime. But hey, at least it's ranked 67 for popularity.

It's recognized as BAD by the MAL Community which nobody gives a jack shit about.

In Japan it sold really well.




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Hitler was good, objectively.
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tingy said:
But hey, at least it's ranked 67 for popularity.

That doesn't mean anything. Unless you mean the favorites rank.
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^ The second part was better.

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The only good thing about the second season was the change in the setting. I also thought this was good but the plot also trainwrecked itself here as soon as the writers thought resurrecting Gai was a good idea when no exposition was ever given for this plot twist to make sense. Logic failed hard in the anime.

The anime's weakness in the first season was the lack of direction and focus in the plot. There are objectives and missions but at the end of day whatever was supposed to come from character interaction becomes meaningless because the plot goes from 25-450 mph in pacing by the finale and becomes more disjointed by the second season when it feels like entire episodes were cut off. The transition in the setting itself should be noted as an example in the plot's disjointed nature. Students are suddenly in school during the first episode of season 2. The only way I can explain the first season's disjointed plot is that the writers thought they had two seasons to work on at first or the writers were so bad that communication between them was lacking. The logic department was another problem, so I'll go with the latter option. Assuming that pacing was fixed, even if scenes were to execute in natural progression the logic behind some of them would be another problem.

I can compare this first season with Valvrave that I just finished watching a few days ago. Both anime start out with logic that makes you scratch your head more often than needed but Valvrave at least takes its characters somewhere after the 5th episode and relations between characters are more solid. The plot in that anime also has a similar flaw in its finale that starts throwing a lot of WTF's and this came from the lack of foreshadowing (and likely planning) just like GC. Both anime were holding back on their more supernatural concepts and this was a bigger problem in GC.

GC didn't take advantage of its concepts being more grounded on science fantasy. We see the Lostxmas ova and immediately notice how far these concepts go with Present. The writers from nitro+ were just more creative here and this creativity was severely lacking in the anime which focused mostly on having a dark and dystopic setting but that's it. The setting (reminded me of DN btw) and the fantasy elements didn't mesh well in the anime.
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Immahnoob said:
tingy said:
Physiicx said:
Immahnoob said:
Red_Keys said:
Immahnoob said:
It's also raising in score.
Is it?

That makes me happy :D

It was 7.74 when I watched it, now it's 7.85.

Why does it make you happy, anyway?


Because it needs to be more recognized >:D.

As much as I love GC, it's (un)fortunately already recognized. As a bad anime. But hey, at least it's ranked 67 for popularity.

It's recognized as BAD by the MAL Community which nobody gives a jack shit about.

In Japan it sold really well.

It's still recognized as bad not just by MAL but by I guess the west as whole? It's hard to find reviews/comments on English sites (other anime forum or blogs) that say good things about GC except the usual, which is that the animation and the music are great.

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tingy said:
But hey, at least it's ranked 67 for popularity.

That doesn't mean anything. Unless you mean the favorites rank.

The person I quoted said it should be more recognized, being number 67 in popularity means it's the 67th most watched anime on MAL, which also means it is recognized, whether as a good anime, or as a bad anime. Maybe I'm using the term recognize too loosely, but that's what I meant when I pointed out its popularity :)
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to be fair, i feel like an idiot for thinking guilty crown would be good in the first place

come on writers of death note, code geass, and high school of the dead, thats a train wreck just waiting to happen, we got a guy who cant conclude series for shit(death note), a guy who doesnt understand how to make plot points go in a coherent pattern(code geass) and.....well HOTD speaks for itself.

Oh well, and the anime community goes on, GC will fade into obscurity when something worse comes, probably the next code geass or something.


*SPOILERS*

Objection! The writer of Death Note couldn't help it, he was forced to extend the manga (which, obviously, is what the anime follows) because the sales were too damn high. If you see the part were L dies, the authors take a 7 week "break" and then the transition to N and Co was just forced. They pretty much come out and explain it in Bakuman, with the analogy being Reversi, but this time Shounen Jump wasn't retarded and let them end it even before the 100 chapter mark (which is how death note should have ended).

Further objection to code geass! Not exactly sure what you mean by incoherent, but from your list it looks like you just really didn't like R2. I think the ending of R2 was planned already in R1, as there are multiple hints to it ( EX) The Lelouch/Suzaku dual speech about making the world without war to Euphie/C.C., ending with Lelouch knocking over the black king chess piece which represented himself), but there was executive meddling, as Code Geass R1 had a midnight slot or something like that, but R2 had a prime time slot, so the writers were forced to reiterate the story from R1, making it kind of odd. Point being, I don't think you can really blame the writers for the not-so-great elements.

But yeah, Guilty Crown is just inexcusably bad. I cannot even fathom why they put in scenes like Shoe and Wheelchair-girl going back to back AFTER they beat up the enemy robots. It was just so ridiculous I couldn't even appreciate how cool it was supposed to look.
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*SPOILERS*

Objection! The writer of Death Note couldn't help it, he was forced to extend the manga (which, obviously, is what the anime follows) because the sales were too damn high. If you see the part were L dies, the authors take a 7 week "break" and then the transition to N and Co was just forced. They pretty much come out and explain it in Bakuman, with the analogy being Reversi, but this time Shounen Jump wasn't retarded and let them end it even before the 100 chapter mark (which is how death note should have ended).

Further objection to code geass! Not exactly sure what you mean by incoherent, but from your list it looks like you just really didn't like R2. I think the ending of R2 was planned already in R1, as there are multiple hints to it ( EX) The Lelouch/Suzaku dual speech about making the world without war to Euphie/C.C., ending with Lelouch knocking over the black king chess piece which represented himself), but there was executive meddling, as Code Geass R1 had a midnight slot or something like that, but R2 had a prime time slot, so the writers were forced to reiterate the story from R1, making it kind of odd. Point being, I don't think you can really blame the writers for the not-so-great elements.

But yeah, Guilty Crown is just inexcusably bad. I cannot even fathom why they put in scenes like Shoe and Wheelchair-girl going back to back AFTER they beat up the enemy robots. It was just so ridiculous I couldn't even appreciate how cool it was supposed to look.


To my knowledge, the writer from death note had nothing to do with Guilty Crown so I don't know why people are even bringing this up.

The scene you mentioned in the anime is not an objective flaw however. Cheesy and over the top perhaps, but not a flaw. A better example of a badly used cliche is when Inori appears in Shu's school during the third episode. If GHQ had complete control over Japan, there is no way Inori could avoid identification.
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I don't really care anymore especially some unanswered stuff & plot-holes that scratch your head all the time. Things had passed since they're now focused on Attack On titan.

Ironic that why both Psycho-Pass & Gargantia were such an amazing anime (You know that both made by Production IG right? That's exactly what I was ranting about!).
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tsudecimo said:
tingy said:
But hey, at least it's ranked 67 for popularity.

That doesn't mean anything. Unless you mean the favorites rank.


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