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Mar 15, 2012 9:44 AM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Showing about Gai...

Almost reaching enemy's base.

Ayase (wheelchair girl) x Shu moment? Shu said getting dirty is his job and wanting Ayase to remain beauty. She trusts him in winning against Gai, who Shu said he's can fight against.

Someone (Uchiyama-san's character) is on revenge, and beginning of final battle.

Wow, he can just call out someone's name and the void of that person can appear. Cat girl waits for Shu to rescue Inori.

Gai only wanted her as Mana, not Inori, who is thankful for him to give her life. The disease covering her (covering the feeling) for the rebirth of Mana.

Shu gave Inori the sadness and beauty of the human being, struggling and be strong. She also was able to love him.

Shu is getting worse with the disease to consume the enemy's disease, as well as Inori, who is beginning to forget, and singing so only Shu can hear it.

That white hair guy (Dart) showed up in front of Shu. Apple again? Shu is choosing Inori over Mana, so the fight between them begins.

Inori, who fights over her ugliness was with him when he showed his ugliness, so it's his turn to be with her. That feeling made Shu won.

Inori became Mana, with black dress after the disease covering her.

Next ep. will be final ep.!
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Mar 15, 2012 9:50 AM

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Shuu has become quite a player, nonchalantly said that line to Ayase.
And Yuu got defeated so easily. Well, with only 2 episodes left, they don't have enough time to play around with him.



Oh well, Shuu is damn cool this time.

NEXT!! and LAST!! Shuu vs Gai!!
 
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Mar 15, 2012 10:18 AM

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Regardless of the death flags thrown around in this episode or whatever, I'm still sticking to my guns with Shu dying. This show is named "Guilty Crown" after all. Shu has the Guilty Crown and he's been shown to carry the evils of those around him.

I would be severely disappointed if Shu does not die and we get some half assed reset ending where everyone (that's still alive) is happy. Nothing would be more ideal than having Inori wait for Shu's return even though it's obvious that he's dead. If they somehow pull a happy ending out of this and remove the aspect of the "Guilty Crown" it will just cement my overall disappointment with this show. It was absolutely terrible in the beginning, but it drastically improved after the break and it has been exciting to watch it ever since even though it still is riddled with flaws. Having an unfitting ending would just be the final nail in the coffin for this show...it would just be another show with a great premise and supposedly excellent staff behind it that made something disappointing and mediocre.
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Mar 15, 2012 10:47 AM

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McRib said:
Regardless of the death flags thrown around in this episode or whatever, I'm still sticking to my guns with Shu dying. This show is named "Guilty Crown" after all. Shu has the Guilty Crown and he's been shown to carry the evils of those around him.


Shu dying would make it the same as all other series where the main character dies because of Karma. Making him dead is the easiest way to not surprise me. Though, i doubt we'll be seeing a definitive ending next episode.
あなたが...それでも何も変化に耐え...しかし... ...場合に前方にも一歩を踏み出すなら...私は感じの何かが変更されるている、と...何か良い処理が 行われます!
 
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Mar 15, 2012 10:51 AM
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Really nice episode.

The fight scene wasn't as good as others but still very well done.

Shu is still badass.

Inori may be gone except for that one crystal flower that popped up near the end of her sequence.

ShuxAyase moment was fun, got a few chuckles out of the dialogue.

last episode next week.
 
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Mar 15, 2012 10:53 AM

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The Daarth guy was pretty cool. I thought if they left him alive there would be a second season but they might try to wrap it all up next week. I'm thinking Inori will be back in one form or another.
 
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McRib said:
Regardless of the death flags thrown around in this episode or whatever, I'm still sticking to my guns with Shu dying. This show is named "Guilty Crown" after all. Shu has the Guilty Crown and he's been shown to carry the evils of those around him.

I would be severely disappointed if Shu does not die and we get some half assed reset ending where everyone (that's still alive) is happy. Nothing would be more ideal than having Inori wait for Shu's return even though it's obvious that he's dead. If they somehow pull a happy ending out of this and remove the aspect of the "Guilty Crown" it will just cement my overall disappointment with this show. It was absolutely terrible in the beginning, but it drastically improved after the break and it has been exciting to watch it ever since even though it still is riddled with flaws. Having an unfitting ending would just be the final nail in the coffin for this show...it would just be another show with a great premise and supposedly excellent staff behind it that made something disappointing and mediocre.


There's only one problem. If Shu dies, so does Ayase, Yahiro, specs lady, and Souta and everyone else who might have given their Void to him. That's quite the death toll
 
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Mar 15, 2012 10:59 AM

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I have a new term for Tsugumi's duck hacking. "YOU GOT DUCKED!" Ahahahah! That was way too hilarious the way she fooled them all with that hacking trick.

It was nice of Shu to give Ayase a nice lift to her Endlave in the spoiler
some no exchange there of feelings.

Gai firing that big bow and what it did was totally ridiculously exaggerate beyond the Cheese of cheeses at how these arrows grew unto their target and affected it with the virus. Cheese of cheeses.

Mawaru Penguin Drum Kiga Apple reference in the following,

It’s official now with this pic. That is the apple of Fate.

SHU VS EVIL SHU........EPIC was EPIC!
Best fight ever! Evil Shu actually impressed me with his Dual wannabe Predator Discs and Wannabe Dual Sabers similar to the ones of Sayaka from Madoka strangely. From the looks of how Evil Shu disappeared, it suggests me that he digitized so was he a really person or digitized? His disappearance was certainly weird the way it was shown. How The Fuck did Shu even pull out that Void let alone use it? WTF?

When Mana revived I was like,

with a "Game Over Man! Game Over!" I was totally thinking and still am that it's over! Mana is BACK! In the following,

Along with the spoiler
She took Inori's body! She bloomed from a Apocalypse flower. She still looks amazingly beautiful with that dress along with its colors but NOW WHAT!?

BTW Image Stitches are done in the club:
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Some of Inori.
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Mar 15, 2012 11:01 AM

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There's only one problem. If Shu dies, so does Ayase, Yahiro, specs lady, and Souta and everyone else who might have given their Void to him. That's quite the death toll

He can give them back (even if they are not near him) so if he is about to go he'll probably do that.
 
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Shu, you motherfucking badass. Although that floating scooter thingy was a little gay. a_a

Episode itself blew me away as usual. I'll elaborate on that later on I guess. What caught my attention, was the preview. It shows Shu's right arm with the king's mark on it despite the fact that it should be on the left one. Gai sacrificing himself yet again to grant Shu more power? Wouldn't quite like it since that fucker deserves a cruel death and not a noble one yet again.

How fucking intimidating does Mana 2.0 look? Damn, time to kick your sister's ass, Shu. Save your girl and become the real king once and for all!

10/10
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Mar 15, 2012 11:29 AM
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Oh, the pathos, it's overflowing! "I felt like your heart touched me" Seriously Inori, you disappoint me, I thought you have already passed this level of your personality.

Once again, I'm left wondering how the "bad guys" have such a vast following despite Gai and before that Segai killing their subordinates left and right. Don't they see that obeying them means certain death?
I really hope their irrational behaviour doesn't lead back to laziness on side of the writers.
 
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prismheart said:
Darklight0303 said:
There's only one problem. If Shu dies, so does Ayase, Yahiro, specs lady, and Souta and everyone else who might have given their Void to him. That's quite the death toll

He can give them back (even if they are not near him) so if he is about to go he'll probably do that.
Agree but the ending suggests otherwise. In thee end what happened to Gai may happen to Shu and company. They all go poof gone! That does kill a S2 TBH.
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Shu, you motherfucking badass. Although that floating scooter thingy was a little gay. a_a
ROFL, it looked like one of them from the new game of Star Wars TBH.

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Mar 15, 2012 11:35 AM

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DAMMIT I EFFING LOVED THIS EPISODE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAS ALSDKF:LAKDF:LAKSD:KLFASDL:KFALSD:KF:ALSKDFLASKDFASDLKFAS:LDKF"SF

What made my day is Daryl coming back. <3<3 I love him so much. But I know he's gonna turn around. The producers wouldn't make him die an evil character, or else he wouldn't have stayed so long. ANYWAYS. IN THE NEXT EPISODE, HE SHOWS UP TOO. HELL YEAH.

Anyways. DAMMIT THE WATER WORKS. I CRIED SO MUCH IN THIS EPISODE. INORINNNNNNNNNN... SHUUUU.... GAI, DAMMIT. How could you?! I thought you were turning around again, and you BLEW IT ALL. AGAIN!
 
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A mixed bag of an episode for me. Too much symbolism, but at least the episode flowed somewhat naturally. The fight scene was cool, but who the hell was that kid, and why should I care (also, that kid can draw voids out of people who are over 17, or did this episode just not try to make them look their age)? The stuff was good for a finale lead-up, but I still don't like the characters. Overall, an okay episode.

And what the hell is up with that Kenji guy anyways?
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Mar 15, 2012 11:43 AM

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Shu was boss; epic is epic, so much win in this episode; people can say whatever they want about the rest of GC, but i have trouble finding any fault in this episode. Even tho it wasn't as built up as i hoped since Inori's character didn't develop quite like Shu's did, the whole Shu x Inori this episode was done well; and that fight with Daath while short was bad ass. Next episode is the finale and Shu vs Gai; like was mentioned last episode i dnt see Shu dying since it would kill off half the cast like Ayase (nice Shu x Ayase moment also, lol he learned his way with words i guess XD) so in the end it might be cliche but i anticipate and hope for a good ending. The real king has come!
 
Mar 15, 2012 11:47 AM

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Shu riding a segway, what a nerd.

Episode was 2/5
 
Mar 15, 2012 11:49 AM

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That episode was awesome.
The soundtrack was awesome.
I loved the parts where Inori was talking about why she fell in love with Shu, and the part where Shu was talking about how no one truly KNOWS Inori. It was really sweet.

And. OMG. KENJI BBY.
And
WTF ARE YOU DOING DARYl. WHAT ARE YOU DOING. NONONONONONO.
Omg. If Daryl dies, I'm gonna. FJSDKFJSLDFFFF.
Just when we think that Daryl went through a heel face turn. He gets crazier instead.
fajflsdlfslffff. Choose how you die? YOU CAN'T DIE. YOU HAVE LIKE. 1000005239068902 LIVES.

The battle was extremely entertaining to watch. I'm kind of disappointed Yuu got beaten so easily, but the show's almost over. We can't spend episodes on a minor battle like that.

I can't really type anything coherent anymore, so I'll stop here.
 
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Lololol, I'm loling at how much hate that flying scooter got. XDDD
 
Mar 15, 2012 12:00 PM

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The soundtrack was awesome.
I loved the parts where Inori was talking about why she fell in love with Shu, and the part where Shu was talking about how no one truly KNOWS Inori. It was really sweet.

And. OMG. KENJI BBY.
And
WTF ARE YOU DOING DARYl. WHAT ARE YOU DOING. NONONONONONO.
Omg. If Daryl dies, I'm gonna. FJSDKFJSLDFFFF.
Just when we think that Daryl went through a heel face turn. He gets crazier instead.
fajflsdlfslffff. Choose how you die? YOU CAN'T DIE. YOU HAVE LIKE. 1000005239068902 LIVES.

The battle was extremely entertaining to watch. I'm kind of disappointed Yuu got beaten so easily, but the show's almost over. We can't spend episodes on a minor battle like that.

I can't really type anything coherent anymore, so I'll stop here.
AKSDF:AKSDFLKASD:KFAL:SKDFL:AKSDLKF EVERYING YOU SAID. YOU SUMMED UP MY FEELLNGS.

I KNOW RIGHT. IF DARYL DIES I'M GONNA KILL SOMETHING. PERHAPS MY ROOM. ASDLFA:LSKDF:LASKD:KALS:DKFASDF NO DARYL YOU CANNOT DIE. NOOOOOOOONEEEE OF US WILL LET YOU.

TSUGUMI WON'T LET YOU! JUST WATCH!! NO DYING DARRRRRRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYLLLLL!!
 
Mar 15, 2012 12:02 PM

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I love Inori >.<
Awesome eposide !
Shu was badass again !!
i feel sorry for those who drop GC
 
Mar 15, 2012 12:02 PM

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Definitely one of the better episodes - minus the whole futuristic segway Shu used to travel. That was super lame.
 
Mar 15, 2012 12:04 PM

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1/5

i guess im too biased to even rate this ep 2/5 since i developed such a hate for this anime

just watching it too see how bad they will fuck up the ending lol
 
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Darklight0303 said:

There's only one problem. If Shu dies, so does Ayase, Yahiro, specs lady, and Souta and everyone else who might have given their Void to him. That's quite the death toll

They will definitely have some sort of asspull regarding that plot point or they'll just conveniently forget about it.

The entire show is filled with plot holes...questioning something like that is pointless since it will just make you frustrated. This show is actually enjoyable to watch when you just sit back and watch the show instead of trying to decipher what the writers are trying to make of it.
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Mar 15, 2012 12:06 PM

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UtsukushiiYume said:
Lololol, I'm loling at how much hate that flying scooter got. XDDD


Funny how that's all they can bring down about the episode, maybe the hate has lost fuel of late?
 
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Shu shoulda just used Ayase's void instead of that scooter...

The episode gave off the vibe of Gai trying to protect Shu instead... Might just be me.
 
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I really like Shu as a main character now, his development throughout this show has been sublime.
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Mar 15, 2012 12:30 PM

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Ayase and Tsumugi are still alive. *fingers crossed*

So Arisa is back as Gai's doting sidekick again? That's nice. I mean don't bother telling us what happens to her that she's willing to make that choice. You make her a big part of the story and the most hated char by the "jealous undersexed male" demographic. Then after she takes part in taking Shu to Haruka with the intention of asking Haruka questions about Gai, she disappears from the story completely. So, now we see her obediently lending her void to Gai to help destroy the main fleet. Nice storytelling. *rollseyes*

Inori is gone.... who's waiting for "nope, she just went into hiding in a flower" cliche moment in the next episode?!

Overall the episode was average. Daath boy was as dangerous as a house fly. The fleet got owned again by super Gai weapon #23 this time. I guess it doesn't kill the void users. Shu has his moment with Ayase. They're both handicapped now so they can relate. Mana is back and looks bitchy as ever. pretty much a cliched setup to the finale.
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this episode was awesome but it seems like there's too much to resolve with just one episode left :( hopefully there will be another season!
 
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/just joining on in the scooter hate because it's lol. I personally didn't hate it or anything.
 
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Final ep.. Shu FTMW...
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Final ep.. Shu FTMW...
I think in the preview Shu saves everyone from being infected and possibly killing each other. I see Daryl and Tsugumi being infected.

Mana looks HOT in there. Damn, Mana got totally hot OVER 9000 with that dress alone. Unbelievable.

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UtsukushiiYume said:
Lololol, I'm loling at how much hate that flying scooter got. XDDD


Funny how that's all they can bring down about the episode, maybe the hate has lost fuel of late?


Haha, exactly huh? I never really saw why people hated GC in the first place. It's such an awesome anime.
 
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For a predictable episode, this was damn good. I got suprised when i saw this episode though, as i was sure it's gonna 24 episodes long and wondered why would the final take 3 episodes more? Then i saw next episode is last. .__.
Waiting eagerly for next episode, this one passed way too quickly.
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Awesome episode and honestly Shu's choice of Transportation did little to spoil it for me at least. I do find it ridiculous how so many try to cling to every little thing even in an episode as good as this.
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Good episode,the beginning of the end.

Shu and Ayase scene was cute,Ayase letting him help was big and it was a nice farewell between them.

Gai using super bow was pretty awesome now that is power!

Shu driving in the scooter really was a little lame.....

WTF dont use Ayase Void anyway!?!?!?

Shu vs Gaath was pretty epic and finally after months of waiting Shu finally was a badass not only the way he fights also the way it think is deserve as a good MC...a little to late.


Sad when Inori begin to forget about Shu showing how much he had show to her....


At then end Mana is back!!! Ayase and the other fighting Daryl!! Next episode everything end.....cant wait to see how it ends!!!
 
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UtsukushiiYume said:
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UtsukushiiYume said:
Lololol, I'm loling at how much hate that flying scooter got. XDDD


Funny how that's all they can bring down about the episode, maybe the hate has lost fuel of late?


Haha, exactly huh? I never really saw why people hated GC in the first place. It's such an awesome anime.
Well there is hatred and there is RAGE. I guess my RAGE was what fueled my hatred but only towards some flaws and some characters dying *cough*Hare T_T*cough* so yeah, I don't get the hatred over other shit despite totally understanding and reading them out. Seeing as far as we are in this before last episode.

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Yumekichi11 said:
UtsukushiiYume said:
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UtsukushiiYume said:
Lololol, I'm loling at how much hate that flying scooter got. XDDD


Funny how that's all they can bring down about the episode, maybe the hate has lost fuel of late?


Haha, exactly huh? I never really saw why people hated GC in the first place. It's such an awesome anime.
Well there is hatred and there is RAGE. I guess my RAGE was what fueled my hatred but only towards some flaws and some characters dying *cough*Hare T_T*cough* so yeah, I don't get the hatred over other shit despite totally understanding and reading them out. Seeing as far as we are in this before last episode.


Oh yeah, I see. (Hare's death was so sad. -sob- However, Gai's death also was. Like, the first one.) Exactly. GC should only be hated once the person who is hating actually tries to understand it, I guess.

Dammit, why can't we have a season 2??
 
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Woot! Mana is here. Final ep is going to be the best!
 
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InfiniteDestiny said:
UtsukushiiYume said:
Lololol, I'm loling at how much hate that flying scooter got. XDDD


Funny how that's all they can bring down about the episode, maybe the hate has lost fuel of late?


You know things are bad when you aren't even complaining about the Daath kid being completely useless or Kenji being forgettable.
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I understand Shu so much more now. I'm loving this anime so much. One of the best anime ever in my opinion. This episode was badass <333 . Gai is still sexy as ever. Hope this anime can get season 2.
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One episode left and I don't want it to end. Second season anyone?
It got very sad when Inori started losing her memories that she had with Shu.
And what is going to happen to Ayase and her group? And what about Daryl *~*

Mana is back alright. Next [last] episode, showdown between Gai and Shu.
Not actually hoping for a happy end...






 
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NO INORI!!!!
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Mar 15, 2012 1:34 PM

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Hey does anyone know the OST that played during Shu vs Daath?
 
Mar 15, 2012 1:45 PM

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i wonder if they'll troll the community with this

like code geass ep 24 25 waiting half a year herp derp
 
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Hey does anyone know the OST that played during Shu vs Daath?


Hmm, I'm pretty sure that was from the Another Side album that released a couple of weeks ago... I have it, but I forgot where the link was. D': If I find it, I'll tell you.
 
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great episode, 5/5 way to make ayase blush shu, your starting to become more of a player lol and daryl suddenly became tony stark XD

i just loved that scene in the middle where inori was losing her memories and described shu perfectly, how he has suffered, made mistakes and hated his own ugliness, but she loved him because of his kindness and how he was so human,

i also like that part where shu took that guys cancer away which made his own cancer even worse and brought him closer to death, it worries me that he might die soon and ayase is seeing this too as he is sacrificing and giving away his life too much which is why she screamed

that fight scene with shu and yuu was awesome, i liked the way shu got pissed off when yuu insulted inori when he doesn't understand her, and pulled out yuu's void and used it against him

but dam that ending, inori has finally become mana and its just gai vs shu.......the winner becomes king......the loser will die.......only one can save the girl they love.........its just so awesome, i am really looking forward to the final episode
 
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I really hope Shu and Inori get their happy end.

Alsoo, idk man, but this show has actually gotten kinda... good these last few episodes. I've been enjoying the second half quite a lot tbh.
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lol at the haters rating it down just because of shu riding a scooter, or just bashing it from the same old reasons because there aren't many new ones , this is an episode discussion you know, you could at least say why hated this episode not the previous ones before, giving a low rating without at least explaining is just..well....boring, its getting really old seeing the same old reasons, or saying new reasons as crappy as "shu was riding a scooter, immediate 1/5", i really am interested to see actual reasons why this episode was bad, you may even change my opinion of it

it wasn't even a proper scooter, it looked like the robot companion of inori that tsugumi uses, i suppose it would be unfair to leave it out the fight, also he never used ayase's void because he didn't want to carelessly expose it to danger, from what i see he only uses voids when he really needs it or when he is saving someone, he would be selfish to just use ayase's void to travel in style when it isn't necessary
 
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So now Shu can do Frieza's Death Ball huh?

I know right. I don't recall any of the voids being able to do that.
 
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So wait... when Gai made that void bow, was the one hanging from the ledge above him Daath? If not who was that? And did Shu take Daath's void during his fight, to do that void ball?

Episode was enjoyable, but random void powers are random.
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