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Jun 1, 2013 5:30 PM
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Finally another work from Makoto Shinkai!

After a bath taste that was left from Hoshi wo ou kodomo, I feel pretty satisfy with his latest piece. The art is simply amazing, it left me breathless and made me constantly pause and re-watch from time to to time. The level of details is over the top, just look at the animation the rain make when it fall on the ground, the tree slowly swaying under the wind, the dust falling with each movement of the chalk. The sound is pretty solid but not that great, I believe it is mostly a variation of the main theme song but it does suit the mood.

Aside from all of that, the story does not amaze me. While this one is truly a strong point of Makoto Shinkai, telling a simple story but with a really interesting point of view, it doesn't left any impact in me at all. At the beginning I really felt a resemblance to his work 5 cm per second and I hoped it will be moving and emotional but it is not. The built up for the movie final climax is not enough imo, also, the climax itself is so so.

Eventhough the movie itself is good, it doesn't have any lasting effect at all, at least for me. It is something that u see, praise, enjoy, and then forget it as time goes by. 7/10, I hope that in his next work, Makoto Shinkai will improve the story aspect of his movie.
Jun 1, 2013 6:24 PM

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That was just so not good. The plot and characters were terrible, shallow, and messy. I disliked Hanazawa Kana as the 27-year-old Yukino; she sounded much too young. Little to no development on their relationship was shown. The only saving graces were the music and art, which even then cannot make up for the lacking storyline. I didn't come into this movie with high expectations, and I guess I was right. Makoto Shinkai needs to work on his plot ideas, pronto.
Jun 1, 2013 7:09 PM

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Breathtaking art, touching story, great seiyuu's and amazing soundtrack.Simply beautiful!
9/10.
Jun 1, 2013 9:13 PM
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symbv said:
People talk a lot about the last lines about walking and come for you, but the most memorable lines to me, except the emotional confrontation near the end, are the pair of Tanka from Manyoushu (ch.11) that bookend their first meeting in the park and their last (before getting true to each other). It is a beauty that so many tanka in Manyoushu are pairs in which one is the answer to the other in feeling and mood.

The lady to the man:
なるかみの すこしとよみて さしくもり あめもふらぬか きみをとどめむ
The thunder strikes softly. Can't the sky get a bit cloudy and rain falls a little. To keep you around. (my bad translation)

And the man answers:
なるかみの すこしとよみて ふらずとも わはとどまらむ, いもしとどめば
Even if there is no thunder or rain, I shall stay here, if it is your desire to keep me around. (my bad translation again)

Much better in mood and fits the dreamily beautiful scenery than the J-Pop song at the end.



I never thought those words (tanka) would strike me where i'm not really volatile of
I have no words to convey what i thought about the garden of words
no rate needed, all i want to leave is i'm satisfied
Jun 1, 2013 10:36 PM

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Well, that was disappointing.

It lacked the emotional UMPH of Shinkai's other works. The characters were pretty dry. Plus, squick relationship. At least it didn't actually go anywhere.
Jun 1, 2013 11:21 PM

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I got this feeling that it should have been longer, I just couldn't attach completly to the characters in the mere 45 mins. wasted potential IMO 3.7/5
Jun 1, 2013 11:25 PM

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Great film, movie was short but nicely done with the art and story, and I liked the ending song ^^
Jun 2, 2013 5:45 AM

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Really nice movie, too bad it was kinda short. I loved the story , the MCs and how he stood up to those 3rd years for her. Anyway , too bad they didn't end up together , but at least it ended on a good note , unlike some of his other works.
Jun 2, 2013 6:38 AM

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Anyone know what the note/letter said that Takao was holding in the epilogue? It had the date 2014/2/3 on it.
Jun 2, 2013 6:41 AM

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destructo22 said:
Anyone know what the note/letter said that Takao was holding in the epilogue? It had the date 2014/2/3 on it.


This letter turned out to be longer than I thought.
Thanks for reading all the way up to here.
I hope you continue to be in good health,
and that the warm seasons come quicker.
[...] I look forward to hearing from you.
2014.2.3 Yukino Yukari
Jun 2, 2013 7:24 AM

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DraconisMarch said:
At least it didn't actually go anywhere.
Except it does go somewhere as he is planning to go to Shikoku to visit her and bring her the pair of shoes.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
Jun 2, 2013 7:25 AM

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10 for the animation
10 for the OST
8 for the story
7 for the characters

>35/4
=8.75
Overall: 9.

It was awesome.
Jun 2, 2013 7:27 AM

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I still can't get over how amazing the art and animation was.
Jun 2, 2013 7:57 AM

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eldest said:
destructo22 said:
Anyone know what the note/letter said that Takao was holding in the epilogue? It had the date 2014/2/3 on it.


This letter turned out to be longer than I thought.
Thanks for reading all the way up to here.
I hope you continue to be in good health,
and that the warm seasons come quicker.
[...] I look forward to hearing from you.
2014.2.3 Yukino Yukari

So it was from Yukari?
Jun 2, 2013 8:03 AM

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^ Yes it's from Yukino.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
Jun 2, 2013 8:56 AM

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The artwork sure was absolutely stunning.
Jun 2, 2013 9:48 AM

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eldest said:
destructo22 said:
Anyone know what the note/letter said that Takao was holding in the epilogue? It had the date 2014/2/3 on it.


This letter turned out to be longer than I thought.
Thanks for reading all the way up to here.
I hope you continue to be in good health,
and that the warm seasons come quicker.
[...] I look forward to hearing from you.
2014.2.3 Yukino Yukari
Fuuuuuuuu-

Thanks, eldest.
Jun 2, 2013 10:32 AM

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destructo22 said:
eldest said:
destructo22 said:
Anyone know what the note/letter said that Takao was holding in the epilogue? It had the date 2014/2/3 on it.


This letter turned out to be longer than I thought.
Thanks for reading all the way up to here.
I hope you continue to be in good health,
and that the warm seasons come quicker.
[...] I look forward to hearing from you.
2014.2.3 Yukino Yukari
Fuuuuuuuu-

Thanks, eldest.


not a problem
Jun 2, 2013 12:12 PM

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Am I the only one who chuckles a bit at the idea of a physical snail mail letter dated 2014? Or is that actually still a fairly common thing to do in Japan?
Jun 2, 2013 2:49 PM

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Well that was very good but it was just to short of a story
Jun 2, 2013 6:08 PM

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fst said:
Am I the only one who chuckles a bit at the idea of a physical snail mail letter dated 2014? Or is that actually still a fairly common thing to do in Japan?


a letter is more personal/sentimental?
Jun 2, 2013 7:07 PM

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Wow, that animation was so beautiful; I loved these rain drop, the movement of the trees and plants, all so beautiful.

The OST and story were also great, my only complaint would probably be the length though.

Definitely buying this when it becomes available.
Jun 2, 2013 10:27 PM

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fst said:
Am I the only one who chuckles a bit at the idea of a physical snail mail letter dated 2014? Or is that actually still a fairly common thing to do in Japan?
I definitely would rather receive a physical snail mail letter from a person I love and look at her handwriting. I guess modern technology has made people less romantic these days? And as for your next question, yes, snail mail letters are still much more common in Japan. Despite the move to electronic communication, it is still the common practice for people and companies to send New Year Greeting Cards (the equivalent of X'mas card in the west) in physical form to be considered polite and respectful, for example.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
Jun 2, 2013 10:46 PM

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The first Makoto Shinkai film that I didn't hate. In fact, I liked this one quite a bit. (And yes, I've seen all of his other works.)
Jun 2, 2013 11:30 PM

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Wow. This is my first Makoto Shinkai film, and I finally understand why everyone is so taken with the art of his other works... the visuals were breathtaking. I'm torn between giving this a 7 or an 8 though, because I think the story was a little weak. Both characters were in relateable situations (between the frustration that comes with adolescence and having a passion, and feeling lost), but they weren't explored very well.

Loved the piano soundtrack.
Jun 3, 2013 12:06 AM

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just finished watching this

the one i downloaded was amazing quality but the last scene had no fucking subtitles

i have no idea how to feel just now but i'm frustrated

can anyone tell me what he says in his monologue after the credits?
Jun 3, 2013 12:30 AM
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bbmello said:

i have no idea how to feel just now but i'm frustrated

can anyone tell me what he says in his monologue after the credits?


http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=608159&show=0#msg22417819 (post #7)

AND someone translated the letter that Takao was holding at the end:
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=608159&show=60#msg22458731
Jun 3, 2013 12:34 AM

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Great art, just really great. But the story wasn't the best. Had some good lines and I liked the type of romance, though it felt a little cliche.

Art 9
Story 7

Overall I'm thinking a 7 or 8 for now.

+1

If you really want to fit in, just put Legend of the Galactic Heroes in your top 5 and have it be the only 10-rated anime in your list.
Jun 3, 2013 12:50 AM

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Looked great, but was amazingly... boring. Conclusion was obvious, and nothing much actually happened, story wise.
Jun 3, 2013 4:36 AM
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eldest said:
destructo22 said:
Anyone know what the note/letter said that Takao was holding in the epilogue? It had the date 2014/2/3 on it.


This letter turned out to be longer than I thought.
Thanks for reading all the way up to here.
I hope you continue to be in good health,
and that the warm seasons come quicker.
[...] I look forward to hearing from you.
2014.2.3 Yukino Yukari


I just noticed that the Date is 2014 and not 2013 oO

Hopefully that is a hint for something.. Maybe the Date for the next Movie? Oo
Jun 3, 2013 4:47 AM

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I just noticed that the Date is 2014 and not 2013 oO
Hopefully that is a hint for something.. Maybe the Date for the next Movie? Oo
My take is that the story in this movie takes place from NOW, as it is currently the rainy season in Japan (around late May), precisely when the story in the movie starts and as the story progresses through summer, then fall and winter (when Takao did the year end exam which should be January), it should be 2014 by the time the story reaches the epilogue.
symbvJun 3, 2013 4:54 AM
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
Jun 3, 2013 4:50 AM

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Keichi-chan said:
eldest said:
destructo22 said:
Anyone know what the note/letter said that Takao was holding in the epilogue? It had the date 2014/2/3 on it.


This letter turned out to be longer than I thought.
Thanks for reading all the way up to here.
I hope you continue to be in good health,
and that the warm seasons come quicker.
[...] I look forward to hearing from you.
2014.2.3 Yukino Yukari


I just noticed that the Date is 2014 and not 2013 oO

Hopefully that is a hint for something.. Maybe the Date for the next Movie? Oo
Doubt it.
Jun 3, 2013 5:12 AM
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The scenery porn was great as usual with a Shinkai production. I did notice on the letter that Yukino wrote on the bottom in English was "...and fell in love, I asked my sweetheart..." Guess someone wasn't hiding their feelings much.
Jun 3, 2013 6:39 AM

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The animation and visual is AMAZING.
2nd movie from Shinkai Makoto that I've seen where the couple didn't end up together.
Sad, but I like the realism.
The romance between the student and a 27 years old teacher is off IMO.
Nevertheless, 45minutes flew by.
The OST at the end is just beautiful.
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I really like love stories like this one.
Jun 3, 2013 8:17 AM

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tingy said:
bbmello said:

i have no idea how to feel just now but i'm frustrated

can anyone tell me what he says in his monologue after the credits?


http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=608159&show=0#msg22417819 (post #7)

AND someone translated the letter that Takao was holding at the end:
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=608159&show=60#msg22458731


thanks man, that was driving me nuts
Jun 3, 2013 8:44 AM

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Makoto Shinkai does it again. Story was a bit weak but god damn those visuals, somewhat depressing ending was to be expected.

10/10
Jun 3, 2013 12:21 PM

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The animation was impressive, I've never seen something like that! 9/10 only because I've felt the ending too rushed.
Jun 3, 2013 12:27 PM

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At first glance i thought Yukino will have a tomboyish like voice (since her character looks like it specially that she drinks alot of beer) but shocked when i heard that cute smooth voice >_>.. wouldve preferred a tomboyish one but i guess thatll mess up the part where she got bullied by the students (since it wont happen if she was tougher and tomboyish).

Either way this movie is just phenomenal, just look at that background art and the animation it was so fluent..!

Too bad though that it was only 46 minutes =_= i need more background arts as epic as the one's on the movie and animation as fluent as well!
(would have love to see them hook up too nyahaha) but they probably are afraid of people copying what happened and started courting their teacher's.

Still, this is really good and i want moar!
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As expected of the makers of 5 Centimeters Per Second, this movie was stunning visually, and the story was brought out really amazing as well with the art.

The story was one touching one as well, young people struggling in a big world and tries to find the means to go forward and open up to people. Sadly such as vile rumors can have a major impact on ones life, just like Yukino. who was a high school teacher.

The character stories were pretty decent overall, and again the visuals in this show brought out something extra to it. Which was really good, the scene that takes during the stairs was amazing to watch with the visuals and brings more emotion to it.

Like many of Makoto Shinkai works, things doesn't go all that well, but not bad either. People move on and maybe, when they both are ready. They will cross path yet again.

Fantastic visuals, good story. 8/10 for me.

Jun 3, 2013 1:37 PM

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I liked the movie overall, but the sudden outburst near the end was a bit too cringey for me. I really enjoy the quiet, gentle atmosphere that this movie portrays (similar to 5 centimeters per second, though I enjoyed 5cm more), I just wish it had continued rather than climax with a bunch of sobbing.
Jun 3, 2013 2:18 PM

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I liked the movie overall, but the sudden outburst near the end was a bit too cringey for me. I really enjoy the quiet, gentle atmosphere that this movie portrays (similar to 5 centimeters per second, though I enjoyed 5cm more), I just wish it had continued rather than climax with a bunch of sobbing.

Yeah, my thoughts precisely. But it was good watch nonetheless, I like the atmosphere, music and also that relation of theirs.

Animation 10
Music 10
Story 7
Atmosphere 9

Overall 8/10

Also, main seyiuu was very Tsunemori Akane-ish :D No wonder she felt very close to me, I watched not only Psycho-Pass and Kotoura but also Sasami-san, Angel Beats! and Shinsekai Yori lately, Hanazawa Kana is great actor :)
Jun 3, 2013 2:56 PM

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Yes, beautiful art, not as gripping as I would hope. But not so bad with the spare dialogue and muted interactions up until the end. Even though we all know how it would go I still loved that placement of the shoes there by the conclusion.
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LostHanyou said:
I liked the movie overall, but the sudden outburst near the end was a bit too cringey for me. I really enjoy the quiet, gentle atmosphere that this movie portrays (similar to 5 centimeters per second, though I enjoyed 5cm more), I just wish it had continued rather than climax with a bunch of sobbing.


You did watch the last minute? The movie continues after the credits. The sobbing part was really sweet I think. Yukino had also fallen in love Akizuki but decided to run away from her problems, her job and him. Not wanting to leave it like that however she faced him one more time to hopefully reveal how she really felt. Having had some time to think, Akizuki lashes out upon seeing her wanting her to hate him so that he could move on thinking it was impossible that she could return his feelings. Yukino starts crying cause she realises that she has been running away and throws herself at him. Then they both started crying cause although they are both really in love and had changed each other, their situations mean that they couldn't be together for some time at least but at least they were honest to each other and perhaps there could be a future together.


Personally I'm a huge fan of Shinkai's works and I really enjoyed this one. Last year I was very fortunate to meet him at a screening of Children Who Chase Lost Voices. ^^

Again he brings back his common themes of distance and love, although he describes it as "love" in the traditional Japanese sense, (lonely sadness) as in longing in Solitude.

The plot is quite simple but also sweet and endearing

Also the movie explains where his love of shoes came from so not really a foot fetish as some thought. lol You can have an interest in shoes without it being a fetish.

In the end I do think they meet again cause;
1) They said it was the happiest time in their life and they both pretty much admitted to being in love.
2) He was still thinking about her many months later
3) The letter showed they were in contact still.
4) And he does say when he matures a bit he'll go to her.
Jun 3, 2013 4:53 PM

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Eh, 7/10. I'd recommend it to people who want a short, scenery porn and simplistic slice of life/romance tale, but in the end it fell kinda flat for me story wise for sure.

I still think The Place Promised in Our Early Days is his best work..
Jun 3, 2013 5:37 PM
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Was good overall, the story is pretty simple but it was enjoyable none the less.
Jun 3, 2013 5:39 PM

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It didn't feel that enticing...much to be desired than what the 46min offered.

Just this once, I'll fulfill whatever your wish is.
Jun 3, 2013 5:41 PM
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It didn't feel that enticing...much to be desired than what the 46min offered.


I think one of the bigger reasons for that was takao's backstory being pretty non existent outside of why he wanted to be a shoe maker.
Jun 3, 2013 7:42 PM

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I scored this 6/10 earlier but now I think it deserves a 7/10 because of the visuals.
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Loved it. That art was amazing. I would say I want more but I think it ended perfectly.
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