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Mar 24, 2013 2:04 PM
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| I would say Ashita no Joe. I honestly didn't think an early 70's anime could have such a strong focus on Character development but I've been proven wrong. Most of the characters have made major changes in their characters ( I'm on episode 36 ) but in a realistic way not just immediate unrealistic changes. Basically the progression is very well thought out. |
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Mar 24, 2013 2:07 PM
#2
| From the ones I have watched maybe Higurashi. |
Mar 24, 2013 2:13 PM
#3
| From what I've heard Ashita no Joe is definitely up there, as for what I've seen I'd have to Monster the delve into how each character feels exceeds your expectations with episode you watch and there's no lack of characters moving towards their objectives while distinguishing who they are. |
Mar 24, 2013 2:14 PM
#4
| Out of the ones I've watched: Monster Aria series FMA: Brotherhood Gankutsuou Welcome to the NHK! |
Mar 24, 2013 2:14 PM
#5
Jauregui said: From the ones I have watched maybe Higurashi. Lol. |
Mar 24, 2013 2:21 PM
#6
SaekoBusu said: From what I've heard Ashita no Joe is definitely up there, as for what I've seen I'd have to Monster the delve into how each character feels exceeds your expectations with episode you watch and there's no lack of characters moving towards their objectives while distinguishing who they are. Oh yeah Monster was a good anime with nice moments of character development. Since you haven't seen it I would take this time to recommend Ashita no Joe for a fantastic anime assuming your fine with the 70s animation which actually looks good for its time. |
Mar 24, 2013 2:21 PM
#7
Jovoo said: Jauregui said: From the ones I have watched maybe Higurashi. I would agree, not the best, but it does have some good character development. I'd say NGE and Serial Experiments Lain for me. Kara No Kyoukai as well as Baccano! are other examples that first come to mind. Solvite said: Jauregui said: From the ones I have watched maybe Higurashi. Lol. You haven't even seen the show, so don't act cocky. He's right, Higurashi does have very good character development. |
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Mar 24, 2013 2:21 PM
#8
| Hajime no Ippo and One Piece. |
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Mar 24, 2013 2:23 PM
#9
Jovoo said: Jovoo said: Jauregui said: From the ones I have watched maybe Higurashi. I would agree, not the best, but it does have some good character development. I'd say NGE and Serial Experiments Lain for me. Kara No Kyoukai as well as Baccano! are other examples that first come to mind. Solvite said: Jauregui said: From the ones I have watched maybe Higurashi. Lol. You haven't even seen the show, so don't act cocky. He's right, Higurashi does have very good character development. No it doesnt. Creepy face laughing isnt character development. |
Mar 24, 2013 2:25 PM
#10
Solvite said: Jovoo said: Jovoo said: Jauregui said: From the ones I have watched maybe Higurashi. I would agree, not the best, but it does have some good character development. I'd say NGE and Serial Experiments Lain for me. Kara No Kyoukai as well as Baccano! are other examples that first come to mind. Solvite said: Jauregui said: From the ones I have watched maybe Higurashi. Lol. You haven't even seen the show, so don't act cocky. He's right, Higurashi does have very good character development. No it doesnt. Creepy face laughing isnt character development. But, but....you haven't even seen the show...what the fuck are you talking about? |
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Mar 24, 2013 2:25 PM
#11
| Honey and Clover, no fucking contest. The whole focus of the show is the development of each and every single characters in it. |
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Mar 24, 2013 2:30 PM
#12
| Pocket Monsters. The whole show focuses on Satoshi's development. Basically, Rise and Fall. From his newbie days to his good trainer days, and then right back to his newbie days. But even when he reverts to a noob, he's still better than in his older days. |
Mar 24, 2013 2:33 PM
#13
| Legend of the Galactic Heroes |
Mar 24, 2013 3:01 PM
#14
silversaint said: Legend of the Galactic Heroes Although I've only seen 16 episodes I also have to agree. Also, Sera's change in Hellsing Ultimate is very well made. |
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Mar 24, 2013 3:14 PM
#15
| I don't think it's possible to say definitively that a series has the best focus on character development because some characters are always more well-developed than others, but some characters that come to mind that I feel stood out because they were developed exceptionally well are Minami Shimada from Baka and Test, Yukio Tanaka from Beck, Yin from Darker than Black, Ryner Lute, Ferris Eris, and Sion Astal from The Legend of the Legendary Heroes, Vegeta and Future Trunks on Dragon Ball Z, Pan on Dragon Ball GT, Mikado Ryugamine from Durarara!!, Hajime and Tsugumi Shibata from Hell Girl, Kino from Kino's Journey, Craft Lawrence and Holo from Spice and Wolf, Mugen and Jin from Samurai Champloo, and Yuki Nagato from The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, oh and Hikaru and Kaoru Hitachiin from Ouran High School Host Club. |
Mar 24, 2013 3:53 PM
#16
silversaint said: Legend of the Galactic Heroes And it has a lot of characters. |
Mar 24, 2013 4:13 PM
#17
FullmetalFanatic said: Yes One Piece, it's all about them trying to achieve their dreams and growing, all of the crew has grown a lot(Brook a little less). I'm not going to say they've had the most development but they are probably my favorite and they have all developed over their journey. IntroverTurtle said: Haven't seen Hajime no Ippo, but One Piece? Really? It is easily one of my favorite anime but it really lacks in character development. There are so many characters and the pacing is so bad that they all just remain static...Hajime no Ippo and One Piece. Luffy started out as a headstrong teenager who thought he could protect everyone and was beat down until he broke physically and mentally, only to regain his confidence in achieving his dream (in small words). His dream that was started by Shanks who saved him as a child and sacrificed one of his arms. Zoro was a lone wolf bounty hunter who only lived for his dream, he became one of the most reliable members and has sacrificed himself for another's dream(something he would never have done before) even going as far as to bowing to the one man he vowed to defeat in tears just to help Luffy. Nami started out as an outcast thief who wouldn't trust anyone and hated pirates, eventually being saved by a pirate and becoming one herself, overcoming some of her past and allowing herself to try and achieve her dream while trusting her comrades. Usopp started out lying to help cheer him and his mother up as she was dying, eventually learned how much his lies hurt others and himself when the people closest to him wouldn't believe him when he was serious. Wanted to become a pirate like his father so he went out to sea, he still ended up as coward and a liar but started to learn what the crew meant to him and learned that he would need to stick up for his comrades if he wanted to be able to smile with them. Overcoming the power difference through trickery and lies to become a big part of the crew. Sanji also started out as one unable to follow his dreams, tied down the restaurant in which Zeff runs, wanting to repay him for saving his life. Learned from Luffy that the correct way to repay someone from saving your life is not to throw it away, and with that decided to leave and follow his dream. He also is now a key member of the crew who would sacrifice his life to save them. And that's just the original crew and only the obvious and basically first step in their development(not counting the eps and arcs after their initial one where you learn about them and the grow). They have all grown themselves, grown closer to the crew, and closer to Luffy as they all are willing to devote themselves to his dream. The amount of characters is a plus, even some side characters like Vivi or Coby get some development. You don't like the pacing, but I do, and I think it's the pacing that helps people overlook some of the development that they do go through. |
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Mar 24, 2013 4:17 PM
#18
ZetaZaku said: Pocket Monsters. The whole show focuses on Satoshi's development. Basically, Rise and Fall. From his newbie days to his good trainer days, and then right back to his newbie days. But even when he reverts to a noob, he's still better than in his older days. What, really? He doesn't even age xD |
Mar 24, 2013 4:17 PM
#19
silversaint said: Legend of the Galactic Heroes THIS |
Mar 24, 2013 4:38 PM
#20
ADiosMio said: ZetaZaku said: Pocket Monsters. The whole show focuses on Satoshi's development. Basically, Rise and Fall. From his newbie days to his good trainer days, and then right back to his newbie days. But even when he reverts to a noob, he's still better than in his older days. What, really? He doesn't even age xD It's symbolic. He is supposed to represent our childhood. How would a teenage boy represent one's childhood? If he became a teenager in later series, kids wouldn't be able to relate to him. |
Mar 24, 2013 4:42 PM
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Mar 24, 2013 4:47 PM
#22
Pirating_Ninja said: Ashita no Joe is the best anime ever and even if you don't think the art has aged well the story certainly has. Note that I don't think the subs are completely finished however i'm at episode 36 and is addicted as hell. only took a few episodes to know this was something special.I might have to vote Monster although I might need to watch Ashita no Joe now ... Although if this was manga I would vote Mars instead most likely. |
Mar 24, 2013 4:51 PM
#23
BlackSabotage said: Pirating_Ninja said: Ashita no Joe is the best anime ever and even if you don't think the art has aged well the story certainly has. Note that I don't think the subs are completely finished however i'm at episode 36 and is addicted as hell. only took a few episodes to know this was something special.I might have to vote Monster although I might need to watch Ashita no Joe now ... Although if this was manga I would vote Mars instead most likely. haha will definitely check it out then, character + plot = me likey, art is nice but since so many newer anime toss plot/character development to the roadside I can't really say that I would prefer a newer anime over an older one... I'll definitely have to check it out (might even try listening to the raws if I catch up to the subs and like it so much, good way to get used to understanding non-written Japanese (honestly might be easier given how many kanji there are) |
Mar 24, 2013 4:55 PM
#24
| Cowboy Bebop. It's all about the characters! |
Mar 24, 2013 5:09 PM
#25
IntroverTurtle said: Yes One Piece, it's all about them trying to achieve their dreams and growing, all of the crew has grown a lot(Brook a little less). I'm not going to say they've had the most development but they are probably my favorite and they have all developed over their journey. Luffy started out as a headstrong teenager who thought he could protect everyone and was beat down until he broke physically and mentally, only to regain his confidence in achieving his dream (in small words). His dream that was started by Shanks who saved him as a child and sacrificed one of his arms. Zoro was a lone wolf bounty hunter who only lived for his dream, he became one of the most reliable members and has sacrificed himself for another's dream(something he would never have done before) even going as far as to bowing to the one man he vowed to defeat in tears just to help Luffy. Nami started out as an outcast thief who wouldn't trust anyone and hated pirates, eventually being saved by a pirate and becoming one herself, overcoming some of her past and allowing herself to try and achieve her dream while trusting her comrades. Usopp started out lying to help cheer him and his mother up as she was dying, eventually learned how much his lies hurt others and himself when the people closest to him wouldn't believe him when he was serious. Wanted to become a pirate like his father so he went out to sea, he still ended up as coward and a liar but started to learn what the crew meant to him and learned that he would need to stick up for his comrades if he wanted to be able to smile with them. Overcoming the power difference through trickery and lies to become a big part of the crew. Sanji also started out as one unable to follow his dreams, tied down the restaurant in which Zeff runs, wanting to repay him for saving his life. Learned from Luffy that the correct way to repay someone from saving your life is not to throw it away, and with that decided to leave and follow his dream. He also is now a key member of the crew who would sacrifice his life to save them. And that's just the original crew and only the obvious and basically first step in their development(not counting the eps and arcs after their initial one where you learn about them and the grow). They have all grown themselves, grown closer to the crew, and closer to Luffy as they all are willing to devote themselves to his dream. The amount of characters is a plus, even some side characters like Vivi or Coby get some development. You don't like the pacing, but I do, and I think it's the pacing that helps people overlook some of the development that they do go through. Those are just examples from their introductory story arcs. Beyond them, they don't change as characters much at all. |
Mar 24, 2013 5:13 PM
#26
Pirating_Ninja said: BlackSabotage said: Pirating_Ninja said: Ashita no Joe is the best anime ever and even if you don't think the art has aged well the story certainly has. Note that I don't think the subs are completely finished however i'm at episode 36 and is addicted as hell. only took a few episodes to know this was something special.I might have to vote Monster although I might need to watch Ashita no Joe now ... Although if this was manga I would vote Mars instead most likely. haha will definitely check it out then, character + plot = me likey, art is nice but since so many newer anime toss plot/character development to the roadside I can't really say that I would prefer a newer anime over an older one... I'll definitely have to check it out (might even try listening to the raws if I catch up to the subs and like it so much, good way to get used to understanding non-written Japanese (honestly might be easier given how many kanji there are) Pirating_Ninja said: BlackSabotage said: Pirating_Ninja said: Ashita no Joe is the best anime ever and even if you don't think the art has aged well the story certainly has. Note that I don't think the subs are completely finished however i'm at episode 36 and is addicted as hell. only took a few episodes to know this was something special.I might have to vote Monster although I might need to watch Ashita no Joe now ... Although if this was manga I would vote Mars instead most likely. haha will definitely check it out then, character + plot = me likey, art is nice but since so many newer anime toss plot/character development to the roadside I can't really say that I would prefer a newer anime over an older one... I'll definitely have to check it out (might even try listening to the raws if I catch up to the subs and like it so much, good way to get used to understanding non-written Japanese (honestly might be easier given how many kanji there are) Well then by all means check it out. I do believe the first 14 episodes are on veoh subbed. The others are on other sites but youll have to switch between mirrors some of which are laggy at least for me. But its totally worth it in the end. Also their are torrents you can check out but i'm not sure how far they go. P.S. Just to let you know Joe is a real d*** in the first several episodes, but please don't take your frustration on his arrogance out on your computer lol. This is about becoming a better person but dang ive never gotten so worried up over one character. |
Mar 24, 2013 6:05 PM
#27
| I know this will get zero praise but my vote goes to Naruto as focus on character development. |
Mar 24, 2013 6:11 PM
#28
HAL5 said: I praise you for being bold enough to make such a controversial statement.I know this will get zero praise but my vote goes to Naruto as focus on character development. |
Mar 24, 2013 6:38 PM
#29
| Lol, I know Naruto characters go through character development xD My vote goes to: Maria-sama ga miteru Princess Tutu Angel Beats such girly votes xD |
Mar 24, 2013 6:51 PM
#30
| The most realistic and nuanced characters with a lot of depth and subtext are going to be from shoujo or seinen anime, so anyone listing shounen anime either has a skewed sense of realism (e.g. that the development of a character is defined by how many villains he defeat, or how many platitudes he can come up with about peace, freedom, friendship, honor, or any other shallow virtue), or needs to expand his repertoire. |
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Mar 24, 2013 6:52 PM
#31
Solvite said: Jovoo said: Jovoo said: Jauregui said: From the ones I have watched maybe Higurashi. I would agree, not the best, but it does have some good character development. I'd say NGE and Serial Experiments Lain for me. Kara No Kyoukai as well as Baccano! are other examples that first come to mind. Solvite said: Jauregui said: From the ones I have watched maybe Higurashi. Lol. You haven't even seen the show, so don't act cocky. He's right, Higurashi does have very good character development. No it doesnt. Creepy face laughing isnt character development. You say that because you haven't watched the show. Every arc focuses in the development of the characters. Each arc explores one of the characters (personal develompment and their relationship as a whole group). Before watched I also tought it was just killer lolis and creepy stuff but I was VERY wrong. |
Mar 24, 2013 6:57 PM
#32
katsucats said: Ashita no Joe is Shounen aint it? I don't think the demographic matters that much really. Not all Shounen are about fighting over the top villains.The most realistic and nuanced characters with a lot of depth and subtext are going to be from shoujo or seinen anime, so anyone listing shounen anime either has a skewed sense of realism (e.g. that the development of a character is defined by how many villains he defeat, or how many platitudes he can come up with about peace, freedom, friendship, honor, or any other shallow virtue), or needs to expand his repertoire. |
Mar 24, 2013 6:58 PM
#33
Jauregui said: You say that because you haven't watched the show. Every arc focuses in the development of the characters. Each arc explores one of the characters (personal develompment and their relationship as a whole group). Before watched I also tought it was just killer lolis and creepy stuff but I was VERY wrong. going insane (for some) counts as character development too, I think. I mean, they're not the same as they were in the beginning of the series xD |
Mar 24, 2013 7:01 PM
#34
| From what i've seen, Monster and Sakurasou No Pet Na Kanojo. |
Mar 24, 2013 7:04 PM
#35
| The best character development I've seen have been in Texhnolyze and Ergo Proxy. I mean there it doesn't matter how much the characters have changed, but the direction they changed in is simply perfect. |
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Mar 24, 2013 7:10 PM
#36
Jauregui said: Each arc in Higurashi explores how a different character goes utterly insane in an alternate universe. Higurashi is a plot driven anime, not character driven. The only character insight that's not developed as a direct response to an event-specific plot device is perhaps You say that because you haven't watched the show. Every arc focuses in the development of the characters. Each arc explores one of the characters (personal develompment and their relationship as a whole group). Mion secretly lamenting that she's not seen as a girl. |
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Mar 24, 2013 7:46 PM
#38
katsucats said: The most realistic and nuanced characters with a lot of depth and subtext are going to be from shoujo or seinen anime, so anyone listing shounen anime either has a skewed sense of realism (e.g. that the development of a character is defined by how many villains he defeat, or how many platitudes he can come up with about peace, freedom, friendship, honor, or any other shallow virtue), or needs to expand his repertoire. Character development doesn't have to be realistic and shounen anime actually are most likely to have it due to the typically longer length. A character maturing throughout, getting past and present background, or how a character thinks and their ideals can come from any genre in anime. |
Mar 24, 2013 7:48 PM
#39
| Turn A gundam |
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Mar 24, 2013 7:52 PM
#40
BlackSabotage said: I would say Ashita no Joe. I honestly didn't think an early 70's anime could have such a strong focus on Character development but I've been proven wrong. Most of the characters have made major changes in their characters ( I'm on episode 36 ) but in a realistic way not just immediate unrealistic changes. Basically the progression is very well thought out. You win! |
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Mar 24, 2013 8:05 PM
#41
| gundam seed i mean |
Mar 24, 2013 8:25 PM
#42
SadisticDoc said: get outgundam seed i mean |
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Mar 24, 2013 8:43 PM
#43
LayedBack said: Yay!BlackSabotage said: I would say Ashita no Joe. I honestly didn't think an early 70's anime could have such a strong focus on Character development but I've been proven wrong. Most of the characters have made major changes in their characters ( I'm on episode 36 ) but in a realistic way not just immediate unrealistic changes. Basically the progression is very well thought out. You win! |
Mar 24, 2013 9:02 PM
#44
| Spice & Wolf had great character development that was quite entertaining. It would be difficult for me to choose and absolute number 1 though. |
Mar 24, 2013 10:31 PM
#47
| Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica Every single character is developed. Even her parents. |
Mar 24, 2013 10:37 PM
#49
TheGreat1s said: Probably Mars of Destruction I cried so hard when that girl got her head blown off. |
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