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Mar 2, 2013 10:59 PM
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would you be relieved, or upset? Will this be a step towards rectifying the elitism of this community, or no?

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Mar 2, 2013 11:02 PM
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So you only couldn't see what other people have scored? I'd be fine with that. I generally don't look at people's lists to look at their scores.
Mar 2, 2013 11:06 PM
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What you call "elitism" is a good thing. It means people have demonstrated varying capacities to think.
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Mar 2, 2013 11:07 PM
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Ambient_ said:
would you be relieved, or upset? Will this rectify the elitism of this community, or no?
It wouldn't be as interesitng, it's like having sports where everyone wins.

No most of the elitism happens on the forums so it won't matter what their list says. And people will find a way around it.
Mar 2, 2013 11:07 PM
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katsucats said:
What you call "elitism" is a good thing. It means people have demonstrated varying capacities to think.
Yea, heaven forbid people start having wrong opinions.
Mar 2, 2013 11:10 PM
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I only use it for my own reference (just to check how I felt about shows and/or to remember what I liked if someone asks about x or y show if it's been a long time) and from time to time for the compatability thing - which is a complete joke in how it works but it's kinda cool to see what me and a friend agree or disagree on. It doesn't turn into arguments or elitism, more like ball busting or just saying cool you loved this too.

So I'd be a little annoyed if it was taken out because I see literally no positive reason for it to happen - while I do see plenty of negative outcomes from removing it. Besides - it shows your opinion on a show, I don't see how that's a negative thing. There wouldn't be public profiles on the site if we weren't supposed to be able to see what others think of things.

The only "real" elitists that are a problem are the types who believe if you don't like x - or you like y - then you're below them. On a worse level, those who believe that about entire genres and demographics. Sadly, removing scores would do nothing to get rid of that.

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I could tell, because anyone who is an active member would not have created this thread because they would already know the answer to this thread.


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Read as, nobody cares - especially given 4chan isn't even elisit. /a/ mostly only likes shitty currently airing - or recently aired - shows and the vast majority of the users only got into anime in the past couple years or only followed a few series prior. Almost everyone there has a lower power level than I do and I haven't even seen that much, if you ever check a MAL thread you'll find that the majority of them have only seen a babby-level 100 or so and most of them mainstream. There's nothing elitist about /a/, they just play pretend.
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Mar 2, 2013 11:13 PM
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No most of the elitism happens on the forums so it won't matter what their list says. And people will find a way around it.

Yea this.
When you say that does that mean the ranking system disappears ? because that would not be helpful.
Mar 2, 2013 11:14 PM
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There ara too much MAL user that have score fetish.
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katsucats said:
What you call "elitism" is a good thing. It means people have demonstrated varying capacities to think.
Yea, heaven forbid people start having wrong opinions.
Heaven forbid people give opinions at all.
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Mar 2, 2013 11:21 PM

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The only thing that would change is that there would be no scores. I feel that what most people consider elitism on here is just debating. Debating is part of human nature and is healthy, it shows that people are actually you know, different from one another.


Mar 2, 2013 11:29 PM

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katsucats said:
What you call "elitism" is a good thing. It means people have demonstrated varying capacities to think.
You know I just might be inclined to think this makes sense.

But of course their capacity to think could still be low, so...

Ignoring the shitfests that occur every day, I like scores. If someone likes SAO, so be it. I might be inclined to disagree with them (outside of actually flaming them in their respective boards), but I mean they like it; what am I supposed to do about it? Make them hate something they enjoyed?
Mar 2, 2013 11:36 PM
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would you be relieved, or upset? Will this be a step towards rectifying the elitism of this community, or no?

Global scores will remain appended to each anime, but scores assigned will remain anonymous.



That would suck. Would be to boring.
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Mar 3, 2013 12:28 AM

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Then we can all enjoy mars of destruction together.
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Mar 3, 2013 12:34 AM

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I would be upset becouse I always look at overall ratings that shows me something worth watching.
Mar 3, 2013 12:46 AM

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dzejkobz said:
I would be upset becouse I always look at overall ratings that shows me something worth watching.


Ambient_ said:
Global scores will remain appended to each anime, but scores assigned will remain anonymous.


Each series would still have it's score, but you couldn't see what people individually rated it on their profiles.
Mar 3, 2013 1:06 AM
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Ambient_ said:
would you be relieved, or upset? Will this be a step towards rectifying the elitism of this community, or no?

I wouldn't care, I use the list to keep track of the anime I'm watching/have completed/ptw. But if I still wanted people to see my scores, I'd put them in the tags.
As for elitism, it doesn't need rectifying. People just need to start taking less seriously.

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Mar 3, 2013 2:09 AM

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With or without this, series scoring would remains as it is.
Overrated and underrated arguments would still exists, elitism will prevails.
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Mar 3, 2013 2:23 AM
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Humans are programmed with a desire to see/compare/and compete through statistics. Basically, it would upset A LOT of people.
Mar 3, 2013 7:45 AM

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A more interesting question (I think) would be:
"What if the term 'masterpiece' was replaced with another term of a lesser degree?"

For the topic, if we removed scores altogether, then that means no more 'overrated' and 'underrated' threads. No more 'hidden gems'. No more complaints about the Top Anime page. No more 'lessons' about what a proper MAL Graph looks like.

On the flipside of things, I dislike coming across recommendation threads where the OP doesn't have anything listed in terms of score and simply says, "based off my list, can you recommend me anime I'll like?"

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Mar 3, 2013 7:54 AM

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What's with all the score/rating threads recently?
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Mar 3, 2013 7:55 AM

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One of the good features of this website is being able to compare scores... Making the scores anonymous would make the website a bit more boring than it already is.
Mar 3, 2013 7:56 AM
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Not at all. In my opinion, I think the scoring should be based on the REVIEWS rather than users who just randomly puts a score on their list. It should be an entire formula to be honest.
Mar 3, 2013 8:11 AM

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I would be incredibly upset. Excluding obvious losses the Top MAL lists, it will eliminate one of MAL's best features which is the ability to look at user list comparability, which I often use to give me an idea as to what I may like that I haven't seen or read.

Essentially, it would remove one of MAL's biggest strengths and make it no different than any other anime forum.
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Mar 3, 2013 8:22 AM

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Whats with all the scoring thread we keep having? Is it really that important?


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Read as, nobody cares - especially given 4chan isn't even elisit. /a/ mostly only likes shitty currently airing - or recently aired - shows and the vast majority of the users only got into anime in the past couple years or only followed a few series prior. Almost everyone there has a lower power level than I do and I haven't even seen that much, if you ever check a MAL thread you'll find that the majority of them have only seen a babby-level 100 or so and most of them mainstream. There's nothing elitist about /a/, they just play pretend.

But MAL is hated on that site, so I doubt regulars would even post in such threads.

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Mar 3, 2013 8:22 AM

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Nah, since scores aren't even the main source of elitism

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I would be incredibly upset. Excluding obvious losses the Top MAL lists


people would still score things, but anonymously, so these features would stay
Mar 3, 2013 8:32 AM

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As long as I have own scores, I have no problem with it.
Mar 3, 2013 8:37 AM

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That sounds like a terrible idea.
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Mar 3, 2013 8:43 AM

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I would hesitate to watch some anime if that happened, since I depend solely on the scores to find good anime to watch.
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Mar 3, 2013 8:46 AM

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Peten00b said:
I would hesitate to watch some anime if that happened, since I depend solely on the scores to find good anime to watch.
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Mar 3, 2013 9:11 AM

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I would hesitate to watch anime if that happened, since I solely depend on MAL's collective crappy taste to find good anime to watch.
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Mar 3, 2013 9:19 AM

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What's with all the score/rating threads recently?


Rating anime is srs business.
Mar 3, 2013 9:39 AM
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I'm confused, if the global scores remain the same, what exactly is the point in taking away scores on ones list? Ever heard the expression, "If it isn't broke, don't fix it." How could seeing another user's personal scores cause any sort of problem?
Mar 3, 2013 10:05 AM

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Keep everything as it is.

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Mar 3, 2013 10:19 AM

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KingYoshi said:
I'm confused, if the global scores remain the same, what exactly is the point in taking away scores on ones list? Ever heard the expression, "If it isn't broke, don't fix it." How could seeing another user's personal scores cause any sort of problem?
It's not. I assume he sees that one problem with personal scores is that people can go into your list and rag you for rating a show too highly or too lowly, but that always happens no matter what. But even if I had said "I loved School Days, it's the epitome of what all anime should be," it's not like people would treat that any differently than if I had rated it a 10/10.
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Mar 3, 2013 10:33 AM
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I would be releved, cause then we can use the best response to any anime related argument.

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Mar 3, 2013 10:42 AM

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frankly i don't use MAL to help me decide on what I will watch. Scoring is fine, imo. There may be some usage of scoring i don't know about? Anyway, for me its on the fringe
Mar 3, 2013 12:16 PM

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I don't know. Patterns in scores and other details are things that help me determine if some users are just spambots or actual people with opinions when I used to mod for another forum.
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Mar 3, 2013 12:47 PM

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OP, you lost me at "rectifying" elitism.

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