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Mar 1, 2013 1:03 PM
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Oriolidae said:
So... I wonder if Sibyl will tell Akane the whole truth, or only part of it and manipulate her...


Right I forgot Sibyl is actually that system of brains and evil lady.
It could be the dominator talking.
R-right?
Mar 1, 2013 1:04 PM

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I can't wait for the final epic long-battle/brawl in a huge grain field in the next couple of episodes.
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Mumble200 said:
Oriolidae said:
So... I wonder if Sibyl will tell Akane the whole truth, or only part of it and manipulate her...


Right I forgot Sibyl is actually that system of brains and evil lady.
It could be the dominator talking.
R-right?


Maybe the dominator actually has a will of it's own.

Maybe after weeks of using it, the dominator finally respects/trusts/feels sorry for akane and wants to tell her the secret.
Mar 1, 2013 1:26 PM
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Looks like the animation is back on track; and so is the story.
Making the episode center around profiling Makishima made for an interesting change of pace and gave the story the certain something so many of us enjoy to watch.
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Mar 1, 2013 1:42 PM

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I like the way Kougami and the professor did their research. As for Akane: it seems like she will be somehow learning all about the system through that Dominator. Who sent it though?

Mar 1, 2013 2:28 PM
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Akane is in trouble. I'm worried they might feed her disinformation in order to get Kougami.

Max Weber, modified crops, anarchism. Urobuchi really put a lot of his interests in this series. This is so not your standard "oni-chan no baka" with cats ears standard crap being pumped out generically nowadays
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Mar 1, 2013 3:20 PM

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Marzan said:
Akane is in trouble. I'm worried they might feed her disinformation in order to get Kougami.

Max Weber, modified crops, anarchism. Urobuchi really put a lot of his interests in this series. This is so not your standard "oni-chan no baka" with cats ears standard crap being pumped out generically nowadays


All that's missing in this show is a fanservice "beach" episode.

Akane, Yayoi, and Shion in sexy bathing suits, Kogami, Kagari, Ginoza, Makashima and Old dude in swim trunks+shirtless,
Mar 1, 2013 3:37 PM

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That ending! Like others mentioned Akane might get manipulated by sybil, but hopefully that wont happen. I really hope the ending of the series isn't rushed. There's only 3 episodes left, and we haven't seen anymore of Yayoi's arc. Hoping for a 2nd season.
Mar 1, 2013 6:03 PM

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For the love of god Makishima, you had better not be touching my hyper-oats. There is a line man.
Mar 1, 2013 6:12 PM
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Ginko-Senpai said:
For the love of god Makishima, you had better not be touching my hyper-oats. There is a line man.
Silly Makishima. Hyper-oats are for Sibyl citizens.
Mar 1, 2013 6:22 PM

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He smiled? ...he actually smiled...?
HE FRIGGIN SMILED! ~♥

Damn only 3 more eps... hope it doesn't go into a cliffhanger
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Mar 1, 2013 6:35 PM

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Well shit. I really need to find time on my Thursdays to watch this...
Mar 1, 2013 7:02 PM

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That ending... Friday, come faster~
Mar 1, 2013 7:26 PM

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Marzan said:
This is so not your standard "oni-chan no baka" with cats ears standard crap being pumped out generically nowadays
I count perhaps 2 or 3 shows in one season that has xxx no baka or oni-chan in the dialogue, and I have not seen much cats ears so far. So how did you get the idea that such shows are "being pumped out" ??
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
Mar 1, 2013 8:30 PM

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this is like the first episode that Kogami actually smiled and he looks like a happy teenage boy omfg
Mar 1, 2013 11:03 PM

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and after this, Akane will escape as well. Nice.. talk about giving Ginoza another heartbreak XD

wonder why telling akane the truth? what's important about it?
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Mar 1, 2013 11:09 PM

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wonder why telling akane the truth? what's important about it?


Brainwashing!!!! who would tell her the real truth about Sybil?
Mar 2, 2013 1:09 AM

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This was a great buildup episode, I liked all the research they did and what not. It was fascinating to see how they did all that. I'm pretty sure that Sibyl will try to brainwash Akane, I seriously doubt that they'll tell her the truth. Next episode should be epic since this was buildup.
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Mar 2, 2013 1:27 AM
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Kuro-Snivy said:
That ending! Like others mentioned Akane might get manipulated by sybil, but hopefully that wont happen. I really hope the ending of the series isn't rushed. There's only 3 episodes left, and we haven't seen anymore of Yayoi's arc. Hoping for a 2nd season.


Yayoi's arc isn't actually important because the entire thing was to see if she was capable of becoming an enforcer so there's 100% no reason to continue her arc
Mar 2, 2013 1:31 AM

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So, in the episode they talked about the consequences of destroying the hyper-oats and they talked about how people would flood in, making the Psycho-Pass analysis useless and all that but, I could have sworn that in earlier episodes that they suggested that the whole world was under the Sybil System's control and that the Sybil System ended war altogether or something like that, please correct me if I'm wrong because it didn't seem like anybody mentioned it before on this thread. Could just be my bad memory.

Also, am I the only person that hopes that Kougami is completely wrong about the targeting of the hyper-oats? That would be a real freaking twist and would also suggest that maybe Kougami and Makishima aren't as alike as we might think. Though targeting the food supply does seem like a logical choice.
Mar 2, 2013 2:17 AM
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I simply adore this photograph. Pure joy! Tee-hee.

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Newmn84 said:
I could have sworn that in earlier episodes that they suggested that the whole world was under the Sybil System's control and that the Sybil System ended war altogether or something like that, please correct me if I'm wrong because it didn't seem like anybody mentioned it before on this thread. Could just be my bad memory.
Don't think there is something like that in the anime. In fact the Chief said that Sybil system runs Japan and made Japan the only place on Earth with rule of law. This means the other parts of the world does not have Sybil system.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
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I have to say that there's a difference between incorporating philosophy into the plot and dropping a bunch of quotes into the script as if the author went quote farming on Google and wants to brag about how clever he can make everyone sound, but like most anime that tried to be too smart for its own good, his fatal mistake is giving every single character the same philosophical vantage point, as if every character happened to have read all the same books, remember the same quotes and references -- of course in order to give counter-arguments to his narrative, he would have to actually be familiar with his sources, and I'm disappointed to say that Psycho-Pass has shown no such competency.

We can tell that Gen Urobuchi is gloating rather than contributing real value from a very fair assumption that probably 99% of his audience have no idea who Pascal, Foucault, or Max Weber is, so mentioning their names is already pretentious. He wants us to be impressed by his appeal to authority fallacy, a gimmick to add perceived depth where none exist.

I could almost subtract half a point or a point to the score by this alone.
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Mar 2, 2013 3:20 AM

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Newmn84 said:
Also, am I the only person that hopes that Kougami is completely wrong about the targeting of the hyper-oats?
Based on the show's heavy focus on detective intuitionism, such as the profiler who likes to brag at every instance at his adeptness in reading physical tells and "logic", I highly doubt it will be revealed that our protagonists could make such a comparatively simple mistake. I mean if you could tell what kind of weapon someone is using by the way he walks, then you could obviously tell his grandmother's middle name from what he ate last Tuesday.
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Mar 2, 2013 3:47 AM

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That dominator(Hidaka, Noriko) spoked.
It has personality?
Mar 2, 2013 4:41 AM

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katsucats said:
I have to say that there's a difference between incorporating philosophy into the plot and dropping a bunch of quotes into the script as if the author went quote farming on Google and wants to brag about how clever he can make everyone sound, but like most anime that tried to be too smart for its own good, his fatal mistake is giving every single character the same philosophical vantage point, as if every character happened to have read all the same books, remember the same quotes and references -- of course in order to give counter-arguments to his narrative, he would have to actually be familiar with his sources, and I'm disappointed to say that Psycho-Pass has shown no such competency.

We can tell that Gen Urobuchi is gloating rather than contributing real value from a very fair assumption that probably 99% of his audience have no idea who Pascal, Foucault, or Max Weber is, so mentioning their names is already pretentious. He wants us to be impressed by his appeal to authority fallacy, a gimmick to add perceived depth where none exist.

I could almost subtract half a point or a point to the score by this alone.


I've got to agree with this.
Mar 2, 2013 5:14 AM
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I got a bad feeling about this at the end (I mean what's gonna happen to Akane next?! She's being mind-controlled by Dominator Sybil too?!)...
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Mar 2, 2013 8:43 AM
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Oh Makishima's plan was to disrupt Japan's food supply.
Mar 2, 2013 9:43 AM

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I hope that the end will not be so bad than i imagine, what i imagine next ? : please Akane, i beg you, don't shoot on poor Kogami, pff, Sybil system, what a bad joke...
Mar 2, 2013 12:10 PM

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Alright episode!

Dominators have personalities?

katsucats said:
I have to say that there's a difference between incorporating philosophy into the plot and dropping a bunch of quotes into the script as if the author went quote farming on Google and wants to brag about how clever he can make everyone sound, but like most anime that tried to be too smart for its own good, his fatal mistake is giving every single character the same philosophical vantage point, as if every character happened to have read all the same books, remember the same quotes and references -- of course in order to give counter-arguments to his narrative, he would have to actually be familiar with his sources, and I'm disappointed to say that Psycho-Pass has shown no such competency.

We can tell that Gen Urobuchi is gloating rather than contributing real value from a very fair assumption that probably 99% of his audience have no idea who Pascal, Foucault, or Max Weber is, so mentioning their names is already pretentious. He wants us to be impressed by his appeal to authority fallacy, a gimmick to add perceived depth where none exist.

I could almost subtract half a point or a point to the score by this alone.


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Mar 2, 2013 1:01 PM

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I admit I found this episode slightly lackluster with predicting Makishima's next move, but the cliffhanger was great. I wonder if that was the decision the Chief could not understand at first. As always, looking forward to next week's ep!
Mar 2, 2013 2:11 PM

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Regardless of what the director claimed. Akane is pretty Moe for me xD

It's nice to see that the Professor refuses to use all of the gadgets that Akane depneds on everyday such as instant cook machine, virtual hologram, and assistant AI. He is truly an exile hermit in this society

Makishima was rightly exposed by Kougami as not some kind of idealistic anarchist, but a full-on barbaric, survival of the fittest provocateur.

Another dimension of Miakisima's character was also explored. His problem with Sibyl is not only because it controls human nature, but because it denies to judge him. He felt that he was rejected as a human. Since he can't be brought into society, his reason for destroying Sibyl is to bring society to him. If true, this extra dimension really adds depth to Makisihima character

Japan does not solely import food. There are many other raw materials it has to import because Japan is poor in natural resources. Thus the idea that Japan can totally cut itself off from the rest of the world by just being able to self-produce food is ridiculous. It's simply impossible for Japanese citizenry to use all those advance technological gadgets without importing raw materials from the outside. This is one of those unexplained plot points that might have been ignored for the sake of plot progression.
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I got a bad feeling about this at the end...
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Alright episode!

Dominators have personalities?


Dominators are Sybil voice, and now Sybil will tell Akane the whole truth, without brainwashing her.

Because that's what is beautiful : If Akane know all the truth, she'll do what Sybil want because that's what is "right". If she did it because she was brainwashed, it would be disapointing.

What's the worst :
- To be forced to kill someone you "love" while being brainwashed
- Kill someone you "love" and help someone you hate, both of your own free will because it's what is right to do

The second one option is what's really terrifying ;)
Mar 2, 2013 6:21 PM

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Ginoza is finally losing it (or lost it according to the Chief) which means he is already doomed for Enforcer duty, unless the complete collapse happens.

The final plan is in motion, and Akane is going to be told everything? This is interesting, I wonder if she will choose the same as Makisima.
Mar 2, 2013 6:31 PM

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The final plan is in motion, and Akane is going to be told everything? This is interesting, I wonder if she will choose the same as Makisima.
I'm guessing that Akane will be invited into Sybil. After all, she probably "qualifies".
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katsucats said:
I have to say that there's a difference between incorporating philosophy into the plot and dropping a bunch of quotes into the script as if the author went quote farming on Google and wants to brag about how clever he can make everyone sound, but like most anime that tried to be too smart for its own good, his fatal mistake is giving every single character the same philosophical vantage point, as if every character happened to have read all the same books, remember the same quotes and references -- of course in order to give counter-arguments to his narrative, he would have to actually be familiar with his sources, and I'm disappointed to say that Psycho-Pass has shown no such competency.

We can tell that Gen Urobuchi is gloating rather than contributing real value from a very fair assumption that probably 99% of his audience have no idea who Pascal, Foucault, or Max Weber is, so mentioning their names is already pretentious. He wants us to be impressed by his appeal to authority fallacy, a gimmick to add perceived depth where none exist.

I could almost subtract half a point or a point to the score by this alone.


I partially agree with this. However, I think with a short time frame it is impossible to truly express deep philosophical elements. Unfortunately, that is a major flaw most anime, even the good ones, have. At least Psycho-Pass so far was not at all a bad offender.
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Whaaa?! I can't believe Kogami just smiled like that. So cute.
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katsucats said:
WolfWood37 said:
The final plan is in motion, and Akane is going to be told everything? This is interesting, I wonder if she will choose the same as Makisima.
I'm guessing that Akane will be invited into Sybil. After all, she probably "qualifies".


Yes, she is qualified to integrate the Sybil, look how she controls her psycho-pass.
But now, i wonder , is only who fear to get his crime coefficient increased who becomes criminal? and what will people do if they discover that Sybil is made from minds that Sybil it self can't judge like Touma.
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katsucats said:
I'm guessing that Akane will be invited into Sybil. After all, she probably "qualifies".
I said it back in ep.14 already I think. In fact my guess is that she would join and try to inform the system from inside. Urobuchi does not like clear black-and-white villain, and he loves bittersweet outcome where a solution is reached by good deal of sacrifice and compromise. I believe Akane will not wholly reject the merits of Sybil system but she also knows there is critical drawback and potential vulnerability. She may pay the price of stop living as a normal individual but she may get a chance to make the system better from within its core.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
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Awesome episode!
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Mar 3, 2013 11:10 AM

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katsucats said:
I'm guessing that Akane will be invited into Sybil. After all, she probably "qualifies".
I said it back in ep.14 already I think. In fact my guess is that she would join and try to inform the system from inside. Urobuchi does not like clear black-and-white villain, and he loves bittersweet outcome where a solution is reached by good deal of sacrifice and compromise. I believe Akane will not wholly reject the merits of Sybil system but she also knows there is critical drawback and potential vulnerability. She may pay the price of stop living as a normal individual but she may get a chance to make the system better from within its core.


Urobuchi said that he wanted to do something new, and we all know that your version of the end would be anything but NEW für Urobuchi. Nuff said. And please be careful with cross-spoilers, I've seen people here spoiler the ending of other animes before...
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Hmm, the end was unexpected o.o
What's Sibyl System trying to accomplish by telling the truth to Akane? Or maybe "the truth" will all just be lies? Otherwise I can't think of what the Sibyl System would gain from telling Akane the truth behind the System...

And finally the scope of Sibyl System was told to reach all over Japan. It was never completely clear to me until now if the system is only in a certain city or the whole country.
Interesting idea, to take out the system by destroying food resources.
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I think I know what's happening what exactly that Chief Kasei was!!

During ep16, that was her/his clone! And so during later ep (17)! NO wonder why during last ep (18) she was in the car rather inside the transport & controls the entire the sibyl system (She was been in the chair all the time? I don't know.)! I sense the Army of Kasei is coming I mean her/his clones are still out there!! God, that really drives me nuts all the time!

And yes, will Kougami @ others will head back to Nona tower from EP16 to find out the truth of Sibyl system?!

I feel the worst is coming for Akane! Only 3 eps to go!
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Getting a little irritated with all the cliffhanger episode endings, it's such a cheap trick. Too much talking in this episode and the way Kougami guesses everything is also getting a little old. Nevertheless, I'm intrigued.
Mar 4, 2013 8:44 AM

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I hope nothing happens to Akane
Mar 4, 2013 9:56 AM

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I think I know what's happening what exactly that Chief Kasei was!!

During ep16, that was her/his clone! And so during later ep (17)! NO wonder why during last ep (18) she was in the car rather inside the transport & controls the entire the sibyl system (She was been in the chair all the time? I don't know.)! I sense the Army of Kasei is coming I mean her/his clones are still out there!! God, that really drives me nuts all the time!

It was explained : "Chief Kasei" is a cyborg body, inhabited by different brains of Sybil, that can be swapped "at will" (they take turn inside)

It means that it's not one person, or rather, the person inside Kasei change. And it's not a clone, unless you call two cars of the same models "clones" :p

But Makishima really killed the brain that was inside the artificial body during the crash
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The ending made me shiver. Gotta love that feeling.
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I can't believe they are simply acting on a forum post by some dude. What the fuck?
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Nooooooo! Don't take her brain!

LOL
Interesting episode though not much happened, hopefully next episode has some action. Still gets a 4/5 though because of the entire anime is solid.
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good episode.
Shingo's plan is to destroyed the main food source.

Wow Koguami now joins Shingo.

3 more episodes left. Man i wish this will be season 2. This show is awesome.
4/5
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