DO NOT discuss the source material beyond this episode. If you want to discuss future events or theories, please use separate threads.
DO NOT ask where to watch/download this episode or give links to copyrighted, non-fair use material.
DO NOT troll/bait/harass/abuse other users for liking or disliking the series/characters.
DO read the Anime Discussion Rules and Site & Forum Guidelines.
DO NOT ask where to watch/download this episode or give links to copyrighted, non-fair use material.
DO NOT troll/bait/harass/abuse other users for liking or disliking the series/characters.
DO read the Anime Discussion Rules and Site & Forum Guidelines.
| OMG. This is, by far, biggest surprise episode I've watched. I wonder how Makishima can even pass the Sibyl system even when he murder someone...Could it be that his will is the weakness of the Sibyl system since it's mentioned that the will is never a part of Crime Coefficient assessment? On side note, judging from how good this anime progressed, I can say this anime can really surpass Fate/Zero at any time. |
ShoutaAzumaDec 21, 2012 10:49 AM
 |
| ...woah. |
 |
Pyr0 said: by a psychopath who doesn't even register in the 'almighty' system that everyone's so proud of. He's registered but whatever he does, his Psychopass will always be clear, and in fact as you see in this episode perfectly zero. so according to SIBYL, he's literally an "angel" who can do no crime. |
 Visit this blog That I'm working with my friend http://randomnessthing.com/ |
| Best episode yet with Akane getting mindfucked like that. I was yelling at her to pick the gun aim and blow his head but i knew she wouldn't. Felt sorry for that poor girl. I wonder what the consequences for her would have been if she killed him when the system refuses to see him as a criminal. So after getting so mindfucked is Akane's phycho-pass still fine? Btw despite the fact his a murderous ass i can't help but agree with his opinion about the system being bullshit. His existence shows how flawed the system is and is about time they fought against it. Yumekichi11 said: This really hits the pits cause Shougo does not register at all with the system. If anything he is DNA/Brain altered. This is impossible that the system does not react to him. At worst he has Admin privileges of the Sybil system and where he may be registered as part of the creating team. There he can as easily as Kayaba did in SAO before dying in implementing something to make the system not recognize him or his crime coefficient. It’s either that mind alterations as to never raise his Crime Coefficient. Stop mixing apples and oranges. |
MonadDec 21, 2012 11:48 AM
| These episodes keep getting better. While I didn't like how her friend was cut and then killed while she couldn't do anything it's really going to help with her character development. This is my favorite anime this season. 5/5 |
| If strength is justice, then is powerlessness a crime? |
kaimax said: Pyr0 said: by a psychopath who doesn't even register in the 'almighty' system that everyone's so proud of. He's registered but whatever he does, his Psychopass will always be clear, and in fact as you see in this episode perfectly zero. so according to SIBYL, he's literally an "angel" who can do no crime. I think he can bypass the system like that because his a complete psychopath. Basically he feels nothing about killing people and doing what he does. Usually most murderers etc even if they seem to not have remorse even a little in the back of their head know there's something wrong with what they are doing. This guy might really feel absolutely nothing about doing what he does and so the system can't find anything in his brain that will show that something irregular is happening since his brain is so calm like nothing irregular did no matter what he did. 9988 said: Flashybrown said: That really sucks that she died. I really hate that guy, but thats what villians are for. When it comes down to it a good villian makes you question everything you believe. Case and point the inspector in the end. After this episode Akane will start to wonder if they sibyl system is really reiable. Reliable? Forget that, the question here is to see it is plain and simply RETARDED. In this aspect Makishima is absolutely right. Or anyone here suggests its ok to let a machine rules peoples entire lives in all aspects and worst judge them? There is nothing wrong with a machine ruling and judging people. Are our current leaders and judges better? The problem is that the machine is made by people too. |
MonadDec 21, 2012 12:06 PM
| This is what I think, is it possible? Judging how freaked out Yuki wasl she should have a high crime coefficient (similar to the lady freaked out from being raped at ep 1). Can't Akane borrow Yuki's crime coefficient to unlock the dominator and quickly aim at Shougo before pulling the trigger? Dominator's transformation is mechanical, and it doesn't lock immediately after the dominator's aim left the target and has a delay before firing the shot (when Kougami dodge and shoots the hound). So it should have a short delay for Akane to redirect the shot at Shougo. |
 |
| Makishimas Psycho Pass is Pure White huh somehow I thought about Shirokuma when he said that I WONDER WHY!! ;) |
| I suspected that Makishima would be able to defeat the Sybil system, thereby exposing the limitations of the Dominator. I wonder how long before Akane is so clouded that she's dropped as an inspector. IN his speech, Makishima makes a good point. It is the will to carry out an act that truly separates the criminal from the non-criminal. All human being at one point harbour feeling of anger, jealousy or cruelty. But not everyone acts on those feelings. Therein lies the flaw of the Sybil system. Best anime this season hands down. Not even close. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| Wow, this episode was exciting! Shinya was awsome as always! <3 In my opinion Akane isn't suitable for this job at all, she's way to naive and a real scaredy cat on top of that. It is such a shame that Yuki had to die, I wished Akane would have just throw away the Dominator and use the gun instead to save her friend. I'm looking forward to the next episode, I'm interested in how they will deal with Makishima because the Sybil System is useless in his case. |
Monad said: It's still a possible occurrence or speculation even if it's mixed up and since when anime does not do that.Yumekichi11 said: Stop mixing apples and oranges.This really hits the pits cause Shougo does not register at all with the system. If anything he is DNA/Brain altered. This is impossible that the system does not react to him. At worst he has Admin privileges of the Sybil system and where he may be registered as part of the creating team. There he can as easily as Kayaba did in SAO before dying in implementing something to make the system not recognize him or his crime coefficient. It’s either that mind alterations as to never raise his Crime Coefficient. Always mixes up stuff anyway. From the occult to other elements. |
Yumekichi11Dec 21, 2012 4:02 PM
| OH man that's the kind of episode that screams thriller damn I was hoping the other latent criminal got there to save her in time but this show is not forgiving like that. Man what a twist really good so far. |
vivichi said: Wow, this episode was exciting! Shinya was awsome as always! <3 In my opinion Akane isn't suitable for this job at all, she's way to naive and a real scaredy cat on top of that. It is such a shame that Yuki had to die, I wished Akane would have just throw away the Dominator and use the gun instead to save her friend. I'm looking forward to the next episode, I'm interested in how they will deal with Makishima because the Sybil System is useless in his case. 1. It's a shotgun, she is going to hit both, from that range though it probably wouldnt be killing anyone. 2. She is a new recruit, it is her first time handling a situation like that. not to mention one of her best friends lives are on the line bundled with makishimas psycho pass being very low. It's realistic that she reacted the way she did, she can hardly be called a scaredy cat after having chased after him. i wouldnt say she asa naive either but hey :) and theres also the fact that proper guns are very rarely used and they dont have any training with them whatsoever. i think akane is a good character |
| Does anyone else need a doctor to confirm that someone without a head is dead? |
| Maybe if makishima doesn't kill people or manipulate others into doing so then his crime coefficient would rise? Just an idea |
| Does anyone else need a doctor to confirm that someone without a head is dead? |
| That was freaking nuts....how the hell can this guy not be judged... |
 |
| I think the reason he can't be judged by the Dominator is because he's mentally sane. You could even put it as he has 'method behind his madness'. The other criminals thus far were unable to have a grip on reality and went insane, often with symptoms of schizophrenia. Yet, Makashima sees humanity not as humanity, but as a study, and an art, and something to be studied, not lived. |
Monad said: kaimax said: Pyr0 said: by a psychopath who doesn't even register in the 'almighty' system that everyone's so proud of. He's registered but whatever he does, his Psychopass will always be clear, and in fact as you see in this episode perfectly zero. so according to SIBYL, he's literally an "angel" who can do no crime. I think he can bypass the system like that because his a complete psychopath. Basically he feels nothing about killing people and doing what he does. Usually most murderers etc even if they seem to not have remorse even a little in the back of their head know there's something wrong with what they are doing. This guy might really feel absolutely nothing about doing what he does and so the system can't find anything in his brain that will show that something irregular is happening since his brain is so calm like nothing irregular did no matter what he did. 9988 said: Flashybrown said: That really sucks that she died. I really hate that guy, but thats what villians are for. When it comes down to it a good villian makes you question everything you believe. Case and point the inspector in the end. After this episode Akane will start to wonder if they sibyl system is really reiable. Reliable? Forget that, the question here is to see it is plain and simply RETARDED. In this aspect Makishima is absolutely right. Or anyone here suggests its ok to let a machine rules peoples entire lives in all aspects and worst judge them? There is nothing wrong with a machine ruling and judging people. Are our current leaders and judges better? The problem is that the machine is made by people too. 0_0 indeed, that you point out its the interesting part, I dont like the idea of falling into the rule of a machine, I agree 200% with the other part, it just shows you we are simply fucked no matter what, either we fuck each other as humans or we let a machine fuck us, the interesting part is whats worst, ultimately I support free will for better or worst rather than giving up my freedom, my privacy, my rights, which of course does not mean rulers will respect them either, as it actually happens right now in the real world, see the interesting part? Ultimately it goes back to what I said, we are fucked either way. In theory its easy to see why the sibyl system exist and people are under its rule but the theory does not always translates as smooth to reality. It could be than an hybrid system would be better, like bypassing the systems judging under certain circumstances, like what happened this ep, the system failed and Akane was unable to shoot the darn thing, of course this would surely give birth no numerous problems, so no matter what we do there is no perfect solution. |
9988Dec 21, 2012 4:49 PM
| Wow, many posts to read ^^ Well just wanted to say: Why Yuki?! Really liked her :( Really stunned me there |
| I just went speechless for a minute after this ep, it was that good. Discovery... Resistance... Hopelessness... Inevitability... Resignation... Shock... Suffering Urobuchi Gen can capture not only emotions and feelings of his characters but also emotions and feelings of his anime watchers. That scene has been burned into my brain for a long time. |
Mich666Dec 21, 2012 5:26 PM
AdeekYool said: She should've just took the opportunity given the momuent that Makishima guy gave her the loaded shotgun, to just finish him up right there and then. Three things: 1) she never killed someone before, dominator did. Dominators always did that dirty job so their psychopasses didn't get cloudy. In case of that shotgun it would be HER who had to pull the trigger noone else. 2) she could easilly kill not only makishima but yuki also with that shotgun. collateral damage. cold shots of those rifles scatter greately with distance. 3) she was terrified that his psychopass was ok for dominator. |
| Pretty great episode. They just better give a damn good explanation why Makishima has such a low crime coefficient. |
| Video rants & stuff: Top 12 Heart-Wrenching Scenes in Anime | DraconisMarch Video Club |
| Fucking intense, holy shit that guy..... I demand an explanation :/ |
 |
| I'm a bit surprised this was introduced so quickly. It was fairly obvious that this flaw would exist in the Sybil System, and it was also fairly obvious that Makishima would be the most likely candidate for showing it. He's already shown several clear indicators of being a "classic" sociopath, which would by its nature represent the greatest natural candidate for spoofing the Sybil System in this direction. So, no real surprises there, other than how openly he flaunts himself here. Still, I didn't expect it to come to play so early, which leaves a great deal open for exactly what's going to happen in the second half of the series. If this is coming out now, I can only hope what's coming later isn't the obvious. |
| WHY! ;_; just went i thought Akane was the purest of them all we have this motherfucker no wonder he wears all white. |
 |
| Now, the real beginning has just begun :D |
| Akane being all panicky really infuriated me. I understand that she was taken aback by Makishima's crime coefficient and that it's against the laws laid down by Sybil to take the matter in her own hand and kill someone with an otherwise clear hue but if she can't keep her composure in a difficult situation and confront someone who is constantly threatening to kill a helpless girl, then why the hell is she an inspector to begin with? And the way she was holding that gun indicates that she can't use any weapon other than the Dominator whatsoever which basically means, Sybil is so full of itself that it believes a Dominator is all you need to hold on to and you're as good as to call yourself an inspector regardless of how inexperienced and irresolute you are. |
9988 said: I think he can bypass the system like that because his a complete psychopath. Basically he feels nothing about killing people and doing what he does. Usually most murderers etc even if they seem to not have remorse even a little in the back of their head know there's something wrong with what they are doing. This guy might really feel absolutely nothing about doing what he does and so the system can't find anything in his brain that will show that something irregular is happening since his brain is so calm like nothing irregular did no matter what he did. I think it's not like the dominator analyze what people think about their deeds " it's some thing wrong or not " . Take kogami like an example , he was judged by the dominator because he wanted revenge to his friend and I'm pretty sure that in bottom of his heart that he tought that killing the criminal is the right decision to do and nothing wrong with that. So .. basicly I think that the system analyse the person's instincts and if there's something wrong with his instincts the system will judge him . In Makishma case , it's so strange that the dominator can't detect his criminal instincts and still more his coeff crime decrease the more he has an intention to commit a crime ! |
| Fucking hell this was good. Really intense episode, I quite expected that Akane wouldn't shoot him although I didn't expect it would turn out like this. Makishima makes a great villain. I love those calm merciless psychopaths. Oh wait... |
| The only thing you can rely on is that you can't rely on anything. |
HauntingShock said: Now, the real beginning has just begun :D I hope this is true. Previous EPs was a bit boring, but this one is a real stuff! Yeah, they need more, more pain and suffering! ψ(｀∇´)ψ |
 |
| That's one cold mother f*cker. |
 |
| Akane, the hell have u done~! Isn't she inspector after all? D: I really REALLY thought she's going to save Yuki.... ;__; Or at least someone will help her. Ugh... Never liked Yuki, but still... It was disgusting. Now I hate Makishima even more. You Urobutcher, you~! Is killing innocent characters so funny or something?! :'< |
     |
| This episode put this anime in my top 15 and guaranteed buy at this moment. I pray they keep this up, really looking forward to it. |
 |
| Suddenly this show has become awesome. I love the bad guy. I love the implications about the sibyl system. And nice action. More! 5/5 |
| I am falling, I am fading, I am drowning, help me to breathe. |
| Arghhhhhh!!!! Stupid Akane!!!!! Well, I won't blame you, I knew living by the judgement of a stupid system was bad from the beginning!! People no longer have what you'd call free will anymore, even if you're just depressed, you're a criminal, so DAMN STUPID!! While watching this episode, I was just shouting: " Frickin' Kill him already, don't care about his psycho-pass, Yuki is about to get killed, Dammit!!" The show is getting along nicely!!! |
| Signature |
| Well this show finally became worth following. |
| damn good episode. i'm really curious about makishima i really cant wait for ep12! |
     |
joanah009 said: damn good episode. i'm really curious about makishima i really cant wait for ep12! next year brod. next year. important note: does that shotgun have unlimited bullets? its been bugging me, i haven't seen the old guy reload to allow the no. of shots done after it another note: this series makes use of pseudo-scientific reasoning, well that's the case for me, but still i love it |
| Simplistic beauty can't be appreciated by someone who looks for something grand in everything he watch. |
AmberFebruary said: important note: does that shotgun have unlimited bullets? its been bugging me, i haven't seen the old guy reload to allow the no. of shots done after it Watch again pls. AmberFebruary said: another note: this series makes use of pseudo-scientific reasoning, well that's the case for me, but still i love it What are you on about? |
| I think that this anime is one of the best 3 of the year. |
JReitan said: AmberFebruary said: important note: does that shotgun have unlimited bullets? its been bugging me, i haven't seen the old guy reload to allow the no. of shots done after it Watch again pls. go watch yourself then again pls. at around 6:30 he reloads while running then he fires one shot at Ko running and then fires another again when shot by the dominator now the bullets are spent he only has one arm. didn't reload. yet he points that gun at his target. makishima picked it up. assuming he didn't reload it. akane fired two shots. so maybe makishima reloaded it. anyway, i don't any mechanisms behinds shotguns but i know how to count shots |
| Simplistic beauty can't be appreciated by someone who looks for something grand in everything he watch. |
AmberFebruary said: JReitan said: AmberFebruary said: important note: does that shotgun have unlimited bullets? its been bugging me, i haven't seen the old guy reload to allow the no. of shots done after it Watch again pls. go watch yourself then again pls. at around 6:30 he reloads while running then he fires one shot at Ko running and then fires another again when shot by the dominator now the bullets are spent he only has one arm. didn't reload. yet he points that gun at his target. makishima picked it up. assuming he didn't reload it. akane fired two shots. so maybe makishima reloaded it. anyway, i don't any mechanisms behinds shotguns but i know how to count shots 6:59 marks a technique used by visual storytellers to cut through unnecessary time that doesn't further the plot.The music, his laughing, and the faded gunshots and explosions also cue this moment. While he is seen walking by the audience for only about 10 seconds, it's implied that he's been walking for a while. Thus, it should also be implied that he's reloaded his shotgun. You may ask, "Well, why didn't they show him reloading the gun during that series of short clips?" and the answer would be director's choice. He felt it was more necessary to focus the camera on his "insane" smile. |
More topics from this board
Poll: » Psycho-Pass Episode 4 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page )jenanime - Nov 1, 2012 |
306 |
by RGreatDanton
»»
Nov 12, 8:49 PM |
|
Poll: » Psycho-Pass Episode 3 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page )Yumekichi11 - Oct 25, 2012 |
306 |
by RGreatDanton
»»
Nov 12, 6:13 PM |
|
Poll: » Psycho-Pass Episode 2 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page )neurogal91 - Oct 18, 2012 |
377 |
by RGreatDanton
»»
Nov 12, 6:04 PM |
|
Poll: » Psycho-Pass Episode 1 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page )Yumekichi11 - Oct 11, 2012 |
670 |
by RGreatDanton
»»
Nov 12, 5:53 PM |
|
Poll: » Psycho-Pass Episode 8 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page )Stark700 - Nov 29, 2012 |
275 |
by Ardi8
»»
Nov 12, 2:16 AM |