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Dec 19, 2012 11:40 PM
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Don't get me wrong I enjoy seeing a good kissing scene when I see one, but is it a must have in a romance anime? It is an act intimacy after all, right. Is simply doing kind things for one another or telling the other person you want to be with them forever not enough to convey the characters emotions and feelings for one another, and yet when an anime doesn't show a kissing scene someone will post something like 'why no kiss'. Even I'm bit disappointed to an certain extent when there is no kiss. Maybe its because since kissing is a significant part of real life romance we come to expect it. What's all of your take.
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Dec 19, 2012 11:47 PM
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It depends on the series.

Something like Hyouka didn't need one, however could you imagine Toradora! without it's kiss? It just wouldn't be the same.
Dec 19, 2012 11:49 PM
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I am not too familiar with romance anime, but generally to rush things in a romance is to make things less meaningful.
Like you were saying, the simple kind things and the explanations of affection give meaning behind the relationship which builds up this strong bond and connection.
Generally a kissing scene wouldn't hurt, however, but it certainly isn't needed.
Dec 19, 2012 11:49 PM
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No kissing is too lewd.
Dec 19, 2012 11:50 PM
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drewzm said:
Don't get me wrong I enjoy seeing a good kissing scene when I see one, but is it a must have in a romance anime? It is an act intimacy after all, right. Is simply doing kind things for one another or telling the other person you want to be with them forever not enough to convey the characters emotions and feelings for one another, and yet when an anime doesn't show a kissing scene someone will post something like 'why no kiss'. Even I'm bit disappointed to an certain extent when there is no kiss. Maybe its because since kissing is a significant part of real life romance we come to expect it. What's all of your take.


It's not really a big deal but i find in fact i rather like it like this, it allows the the director to convey the relationship between the characters on a more emotional and personal level instead of the direct physical aspect.

Take for instant Byousoku 5 Centimeter, i find it be a great romance/love story even though at no point within the film there is any romance, essentially a romance without the romance.
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Dec 20, 2012 12:02 AM
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Look at Zero No Tsukaima, both main characters kissed so many times it took away the spark. The less kissing the better the anticipation.
Dec 20, 2012 12:04 AM
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I generally prefer it, yeah. But, there are a few series it didn't bother me to not see it.
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Dec 20, 2012 12:05 AM
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I think I'm a fan of less kissing rather than more.

Notably in Strawberry Panic! the first kiss doesn't happen for awhile and it's a pretty significant moment when it does.

That said, I do love seeing two characters who like each other showing their affection, kiss or otherwise.

Edit: In other words, no a romance doesn't need a kissing scene, but I like them.
Dec 20, 2012 12:18 AM
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Depends. Alot of the animes that are listed as romance are not even "that" kind of romance.
Dec 20, 2012 12:32 AM
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mitch3315 said:
It depends on the series.

Something like Hyouka didn't need one, however could you imagine Toradora! without it's kiss? It just wouldn't be the same.


This.
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Dec 20, 2012 12:34 AM
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it depends
Kara No Kyoukai or shows like that dont really need one
but for most com/dram/rom then yea i would like to see at least, it annoys me when they dont even conclude a romance with a kiss or an "i love u" scene
Dec 20, 2012 1:01 AM
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I sometimes personally don't mind if they don't say 'I love you' because its sometimes not necessary when their actions speak for their selves and their intentions; where its so obvious that both the characters and the audience know it. Not that it would hurt to utter those words but it can be cliche sometimes too.
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Dec 20, 2012 1:45 AM
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[url]http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SacredFirstKiss[/url]

This is a pretty good read on the subject.


And it depends on the show mostly, some shows would be great with a kissing scene some it wouldn't matter because they did not focus on the romance so deeply.
Dec 20, 2012 1:50 AM

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It's like Japan have something against kissing!
Dec 20, 2012 1:52 AM

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IcecreamManwich said:
It's like Japan have something against kissing!


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Dec 20, 2012 1:55 AM
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Because kissing scenes make otakus nervous and faint.

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its not a necessity. Clannad is a perfect example, there was no kissing scene at all in 50 episodes and no sex scene either even though they had a child but it was still great to watch
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digitaldude999 said:
[url]http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SacredFirstKiss[/url]

This is a pretty good read on the subject.


And it depends on the show mostly, some shows would be great with a kissing scene some it wouldn't matter because they did not focus on the romance so deeply.


Wow, that would certainly explain a lot. It helps to be more educated about the culture in japan if your reading certain manga or watching anime.
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Dec 20, 2012 3:34 AM

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I have a feeling this is in response to the Chuunibyou ending backlash, but...

A kiss is necessary if warranted by the series. As stated before, a show like Clannad pulls it off perfectly without a kiss. Heck, that one hug at the end of the series was more powerful than any kiss could ever have been.

And as far as Chuunibyou is concerned,


Just seeing the character's true feelings for one another is oftentimes more powerful than any physical thing.

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I have a feeling this is in response to the Chuunibyou ending backlash, but...

A kiss is necessary if warranted by the series. As stated before, a show like Clannad pulls it off perfectly without a kiss. Heck, that one hug at the end of the series was more powerful than any kiss could ever have been.

And as far as Chuunibyou is concerned,


Just seeing the character's true feelings for one another is oftentimes more powerful than any physical thing.


If I've read correctly, Rikka and Yuuta did kiss in the LN, so I don't think it would've been too forced or out of place. Really, it would have fit fine during the scene on the beach.

However, I'm not too worried about it not happening. The kiss at the end of a romance doesn't necessarily need to occur for it to reach a satisfying culmination. As it was, the scenes where they hugged on the roof and when they were looking at the "unseen horizon" on the beach were very powerful.
Dec 20, 2012 4:06 AM

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It could be really frustrating, if you want them to do it, of course...
Dec 20, 2012 4:29 AM

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bigeaze said:

If I've read correctly, Rikka and Yuuta did kiss in the LN, so I don't think it would've been too forced or out of place. Really, it would have fit fine during the scene on the beach.

Indeed, I've read the first light novel and that is the case. But the kiss takes place in a different context, though you're right in saying it would have fit at that particular scene. I found the way they did it in the anime to feel more in character for them, at least through my eyes.

However, I'm not too worried about it not happening. The kiss at the end of a romance doesn't necessarily need to occur for it to reach a satisfying culmination. As it was, the scenes where they hugged on the roof and when they were looking at the "unseen horizon" on the beach were very powerful.

Totally agree with you there.

Dec 20, 2012 4:40 AM
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Like someone said, no kissing is more effective and sensual in some cases. Also, the Japanese, in general, don't kiss so often as Americans.
Dec 20, 2012 5:03 AM
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To be honest, it doesn't matter.
I remember Cardcaptors, The Romance between Sakura and Syaoran was gradual, there was never a kiss, just a confession and what looked like was going to be a hug at the end. But yeah no need for a kiss.

Though Toradora or Zero no Tsukaima, the Kiss adds to the character development. And also helps to create a lasting scene in our heads.
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no_good_name said:
IcecreamManwich said:
It's like Japan have something against kissing!


What did you say about asparagus?

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Because kissing scenes make otakus nervous and faint.

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Dec 20, 2012 5:20 AM

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I'll agree that it really depends on the tone that the series is setting.

All relationships are different. Some have more of a sexual/physical attraction between the characters while others are a little slower with the relationship development. One simple truth though? At one point or another, anyone that ever calls themselves a couple do eventually kiss (and eventually go farther), when it comes to anime, that's up to the producers.

I prefer my romance animes to have kissing but honestly, that's because it's more realistic than have BFF lovers. Then again, you might have to take the age of the characters into consideration because older couples (when I say older, I mean HS/college age) are much more likely to get ambitious with their relationship than, let's say a middle school couple.

I might need to take a closer look at this myself...of my favorite anime romances (or couples)...

Angel Beats

ef-a tale of memories

ef-a tale of melodies

Sword Art Online

Steins;Gate

Katanagatari

Gosick

Hyouka

Chrno Crusade

Elemental Gelade

Ano Hana

Hanbun no Tsuki ga Noboru Sora

Eureka Seven

Tasogare Otome x Amnesia


Hmm, of my 14 favorite anime romances, it's 8-6 in favor of kissing scenes. Pretty close. Like I said, I prefer animes with kissing scenes but they aren't "necessary" all the time.

*edit* I went back and edited this because there were a couple I temporarily forgot about. It was 6-6 before, 8-6 after edit.
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Dec 20, 2012 9:12 AM

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A kissing scene for me is a bonus. What it matters for me is if their chemistry is very good.


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I don't care much about romance but kissing scene is sometimes fine, when it doesn't feel forced.
The only scene where I really missed a kissing scene was Clannad.
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I don't care much about romance but kissing scene is sometimes fine, when it doesn't feel forced.
The only scene where I really missed a kissing scene was Clannad.

Well, their relationship was purely based on sexual desire. That's how I felt when I watched that anime at least.
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The most important part of romance animes are the romantic moments itself, the actual relationship (if it's really a true romance anime, not an anime with romance as a small subgenre).
I really like kiss scenes, the more romantic the better and I get kind of disappointed if a really nice romance anime doesn't have at least one, but that doesn't mean the anime is weaker.
As long as the relationship between the two is obvious (not by letting it be seen by the audience, but by conveying it with words between the characters) it's ok.
Dec 20, 2012 6:14 PM

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Short answer yes, long answer yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees

The kiss is the final climax, the cherry on the cake, the moment we've all been waiting for, without it the anime seems a bit pointless to me. I think that if a romance anime does not have that kind of moment in it, then it probably is doing something wrong.

Romance without a kiss just seems like it gets no pay off, no "reward", as it were. You can have all the passionate scenes in the world, if at the end we do not get a payback, then what were they for? That being said, it does not mean that if a romance anime has no kiss, that it is an automatic bad anime, I just think that it will never be....truly complete, without that moment of triumph...of sorts.
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It brings it all together, but it's not really needed.

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It's all about relationship building to me. Kissing or not doesn't matter.
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The fewer the better so that when it happens it catches you off guard.
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miereneronaile said:
mitch3315 said:
It depends on the series.

Something like Hyouka didn't need one, however could you imagine Toradora! without it's kiss? It just wouldn't be the same.


This.


I also agree with it. ^_^ I think certain shows don't need it, but some do. Clannad did without it pretty well (>.> Though, my boyfriend and I have this theory of "pregnant by holding hands" since Tomoya and Nagisa never kissed and still had a child), whereas a show like, say, Sukitte Ii na yo has a lot of significance to the kisses shown.
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SoraLover1994 said:
miereneronaile said:
mitch3315 said:
It depends on the series.

Something like Hyouka didn't need one, however could you imagine Toradora! without it's kiss? It just wouldn't be the same.


This.


I also agree with it. ^_^ I think certain shows don't need it, but some do. Clannad did without it pretty well (>.> Though, my boyfriend and I have this theory of "pregnant by holding hands" since Tomoya and Nagisa never kissed and still had a child), whereas a show like, say, Sukitte Ii na yo has a lot of significance to the kisses shown.


LOL isn't it because they had a child at the end of the visual novel?
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No. I like it better if they don't. Then mai waifus can stay pure.

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no, unless its a comedy soft romance (not like Clannad or Ef) then I want a kiss scene if the development wasn't good enough.
Dec 21, 2012 12:18 AM

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I like it when there is kissing. But depending on the anime it doesn't really matter.
Dec 21, 2012 1:32 AM

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That's pretty stupid for a romance anime not to have a kiss scene.
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Yes. It is god dammit.
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