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| Don't know this is about protecting the Earth from monsters or juz internal disputes/competitions between soldiers and fan services..... First 2 ep was great and then 4 5 6 starting to bore me out...all they show is hot characters -_- |
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| I always thought Japanese wouldn't have much problems with russian and some slavic languages, but how can Yui fuck up "Barchenowa" so badly that it doesn't even resemble original name? |
| レッツゴー ED イケイケゴーゴー |
| Is anyone else feeling like the directing is seriously bringing this show down? Some of the scenes seem just kind of forced together. And Yui's flashback could have had some serious impact but it just seemed flat to me. |
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| Yui and Cryska too hot. |
Magito said: Better enjoy the fanservice because this could be their last. With 24 episodes I doubt it, but it's going to turn bloody for sure... |
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| I actually enjoyed this episode alot more than the previous ones . Why ? BECAUSE BOOBZ MAKES EVERYTHING BETTER <3 |
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| Fan Service!!! only thing that i didnt like is that they but a hammer and sickle on Cryska outfit, i know she soviet and all but really even in a bikini come on man, so the Japanese doll and Topgun are getting along? for once but if i had to choose Cryska is the one for me. |
| Ah! the injured ankle plot. So original, so innovative, so inspiring. Oh, no the boat is missing. God hates me!! Now i have to spend a day or two in this island alone with a Russian and a Japanese hot babe. Not to mention we are all half naked without proper clothes. THE MISERY!!!!! _fantasticmrfox said: Cryska in a bikini = THE PRIDE OF MOTHER RUSSIA! Funny with soviet symbol on her breast, lol. Russia power. Arcane587 said: Ugh, Cryska and Yui took a quick 180 this episode for no reason. Completely out of character for them. Don't know about Cryska since her character wasn't shown at all. You can't say is out of character when she had no character. Besides i don't see how she took 180 by just asking a question. As about Yui i don't think this behavior is not in her character. Lets not forget who she was before her traumatic experiences made her try to be more tough. Still it was obvious that kind of side is still inside her by her inside monologues and stuff. She's a woman after all. She can't always act like she sees no man or she'll never have a relationship. At some point she has to feel attraction to a male and even be sweet to him. |
MonadAug 6, 2012 3:59 PM
| Beach episode, was pretty good because it wasn't just fan service. |
| I'm fairly new to MAL and I've been noticing in every episode discussion I enter there's always so much negativity about it lol. Is that normal? It's funny how a lot of people are thinking MLA is going to turn into a harem anime just because of this single fanservice episode. Although the Yuuya/Yui coupling has been established and Cryska (maybe Inia as well) is a possible future love interest, it doesn't justify comparing MLA to those crap ecchi/harem animes. I just don't feel like MLA is NOT going to prioritize the romance (apparently future harem) over the actual plot of MLA (the fight between humans and BETA). Basically, I think the romance will just be some spice for the main story. Regarding the "180" the characters did, I think it's a little exaggerated. While Yui did show a softer side of herself, I believe that's all she did. She did not drop her authoritative personality and go straight to a dere personality. If you never noticed, Yui has only shown her stubborn side to Yuuya as a repellent for his arrogance and the conflicts between them only arose when Yuuya's handling of the Japanese TSFs were involved. Seeing as this episode lacked any TSFs, Yuuya and Yui had nothing to argue about so it would just be bitchy for Yui to act that way. Although Inia arguing with the annoying one (forgot her name) was strange, the personalities of the Scarlet twins haven't truly between established yet IMO since they are still full of mystery. Also, Cryska's interest in Yuuya has yet to be confirmed as romantic (she wasn't blushing when she stated it), so don't start anticipating this anime turning into a harem because of Cryska saying that out of the blue (I do feel it's very possible she will be a future love interest, but not quite yet). If anyone is wondering why I'm being so defensive about this anime it's probably because after taking a look at the Summer 2012 anime list, I found that MLA and SAO were the only animes I'd be taking an interest in (seeing as the rest were all just slice of life, ecchi, harem, or sequels of anime I don't plan to watch yet), and I found it irritating how everyone was being so critical to MLA when the rest of the Summer 2012 anime don't seem like anything better. It's a very sad day when you see a fine anime like MLA rated lower than something like Highschool DxD. |
| Nice episode, stranded on a island. It seems like Yui is falling for him? Wtf is this. |
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| According to a poster on a another board I sometimes browse, the anime is "staying very true to the LN, with just minor changes here and there (compared to the other LN adaptation series this season). I'm not that certain, but if I didn't count wrong, ep 8 onwards till ep 13 (if they end there) should be BETA action galore." Also, why does everyone keep saying things like, "BETA all over etc. and we're at the beach?" War's not about being on the front lines at all times. And please correct me if I'm wrong, but the BETA have not occupied any of North or South America (the hive that landed in Canada was nuked), Australia, or Africa. Finally, does anyone else think Cryska is "interested" in Yuuya because she's angry at him for that whole incident with Inia? She sounds pissed in the preview for the next episode. |
| At least Yuuya can be a gentleman when needed, I guess I can finally call it progress. Although no guy would hesitate to help two girls with bombastic bodies in case of emergency. |
bmadfsh said: Negativity in the episode discussions doesn't necessarily mean the show is bad. Sometimes it just makes for more interesting conversation than talking about aspects of the show that are fine.I'm fairly new to MAL and I've been noticing in every episode discussion I enter there's always so much negativity about it lol. Is that normal? bmadfsh said: I think the show turning into a harem anime is a bit of hyperbole, or at least it is in my case. I'm fine with there being a romance aspect to the show, but it should develop over time (more than 10 minutes). As for the disappearance of BETA from the plot entirely...Maybe it's partly because we've become accustomed to the 12-13 episode anime series. In which case, the anime would be half over, and the BETA really only had an impact on 1/6 episodes.It's funny how a lot of people are thinking MLA is going to turn into a harem anime just because of this single fanservice episode. Although the Yuuya/Yui coupling has been established and Cryska (maybe Inia as well) is a possible future love interest, it doesn't justify comparing MLA to those crap ecchi/harem animes. I just don't feel like MLA is NOT going to prioritize the romance (apparently future harem) over the actual plot of MLA (the fight between humans and BETA). Basically, I think the romance will just be some spice for the main story. bmadfsh said: Blasphemy! Highschool DxD was a very good anime. There are actually quite a few good anime this season, although I find your dislike? of slice of life anime interesting, considering that's the majority of MLA thus far. It has disappointed people somewhat because they promised us episode 2, then continued to deliver nothing but episode 3. Violent, gory mecha anime...not Infinite Stratos.If anyone is wondering why I'm being so defensive about this anime it's probably because after taking a look at the Summer 2012 anime list, I found that MLA and SAO were the only animes I'd be taking an interest in (seeing as the rest were all just slice of life, ecchi, harem, or sequels of anime I don't plan to watch yet), and I found it irritating how everyone was being so critical to MLA when the rest of the Summer 2012 anime don't seem like anything better. It's a very sad day when you see a fine anime like MLA rated lower than something like Highschool DxD. |
fullmetal_adam said: Negativity in the episode discussions doesn't necessarily mean the show is bad. Sometimes it just makes for more interesting conversation than talking about aspects of the show that are fine. I guess I could understand that it's just I'm used to having more optimistic about anime. fullmetal_adam said: I think the show turning into a harem anime is a bit of hyperbole, or at least it is in my case. I'm fine with there being a romance aspect to the show, but it should develop over time (more than 10 minutes). As for the disappearance of BETA from the plot entirely...Maybe it's partly because we've become accustomed to the 12-13 episode anime series. In which case, the anime would be half over, and the BETA really only had an impact on 1/6 episodes. Yeah, the romance was developed rather quickly, but I didn't mind. Probably since I wanted the romance aspect of MLA to start up for some time now. Surprisingly, I haven't seen too much people complaining about the disappearance of BETA, but regardless we barely had a timeskip in episode 3 and had 4/5 to settle us into the new setting. That being said the beach episode was rather sudden, but it's only been 6/25 episodes so I really didn't mind. fullmetal_adam said: Blasphemy! Highschool DxD was a very good anime. There are actually quite a few good anime this season, although I find your dislike? of slice of life anime interesting, considering that's the majority of MLA thus far. It has disappointed people somewhat because they promised us episode 2, then continued to deliver nothing but episode 3. Violent, gory mecha anime...not Infinite Stratos. IMO Highschool DxD is a very generic ecchi/harem. I've watched tons of them for reasons I will explain as a "phase', and Highschool DxD was nothing special. I refer to any anime with a school setting with very normal characters as slice of life (may be different from the actual definition of slice of life; I never looked into it. Forgive my ignorance if I'm wrong). So, I only found the first 2 episodes of MLA to be slice of life, which I only bore through thanks to the BETA being in action. I'm not sure what you mean by promised us episode 2 and whatever...care to explain? Thanks. |
| I think this anime can be improved with some more frequent "mind talking" from the characters. Its really hard to tell what Yuuya is thinking from just his grunts and scoffs.... Since this anime has the same director I think as Rosario+Vampire....or did.... one of those "la la la la la" moments could of helped explain the changes in attitude between him and Yui hahaha... From a logical stand point I think that since they were out of uniform... their attitudes changed...dropping a bit of their military work personas...and feeling some attraction from all this skin... the directing of the animation doesn't do a good job of showing this though... a short mind speak would of helped greatly... I think Yui had a change of personality because she was feeling useless and was having post trauma stress disorder from her past... it sapped her of energy which is actually possible... they could of shown this better though, maybe using a flash back thought that happens earlier rather than the dream or maybe using both... a short flash back thought... plus a dream sequence... The PTSD might be why they picked her to head up this R&D... to get her away from the Japan and the front lines since she wasn't mentally fit to fight.... maybe they will have a flash back for this.... like how they did for Yuuya where they it shows him being a trouble maker so they kick him to Alaska... |
bmadfsh said: I'm not sure what you mean by promised us episode 2 and whatever...care to explain? Thanks. Blitzschnel said: I should probably preface this with the fact I had never even heard of the Muv-Luv franchise before this anime...So, all I meant is episode 2 built up my hopes, and gave a misleading impression of the show.I don't remember them promising episode 2. In fact they said it would stay loyal to the LN, and there isn't a lot of action in the LN till the end (and we have 25 episodes). MLA: TE needs to succeed before we can get MLA (Which is really episode 2 on overdrive). I would give Dawn of the Dead (2004) as an example. Within a few minutes of the start, s**t hit the fan and zombies were everywhere until the end of the movie. MLA started in a similar fashion as far as pacing is concerned, but hasn't followed through with it. I thought it would have a lot of action and violence, but it reverted to young adult drama with mechs and looks to continue down this road for some time. The anime isn't bad for what it is, it's just that I expected something different to what I'm getting after that amazing second episode. I drew a little graph illustrating the excitement/action level of the series so far in the spoiler. |
bmadfsh said: fullmetal_adam said: Negativity in the episode discussions doesn't necessarily mean the show is bad. Sometimes it just makes for more interesting conversation than talking about aspects of the show that are fine. I guess I could understand that it's just I'm used to having more optimistic about anime. Welcome to MAL. Enjoy your long (or short) stay. People like to "hate" the anime they watch. According to certain users, watching anime is suffering. In other words, all anime is shit and they have to express their utter disgust of it every single episode. It was pretty decent as a beach episode with some potential character development underway. |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
fullmetal_adam said: I should probably preface this with the fact I had never even heard of the Muv-Luv franchise before this anime...So, all I meant is episode 2 built up my hopes, and gave a misleading impression of the show. I would give Dawn of the Dead (2004) as an example. Within a few minutes of the start, s**t hit the fan and zombies were everywhere until the end of the movie. MLA started in a similar fashion as far as pacing is concerned, but hasn't followed through with it. I thought it would have a lot of action and violence, but it reverted to young adult drama with mechs and looks to continue down this road for some time. The anime isn't bad for what it is, it's just that I expected something different to what I'm getting after that amazing second episode. I drew a little graph illustrating the excitement/action level of the series so far in the spoiler. This is the sole reason why I think (and fear) the entire thing will fall. The ML Franchise provides one of the hardest way to get people in. Taking the VN series alone: Everyone agrees MLA is one the best, if not the best VNs around. Problem, to enjoy it to the fullest, one has to go through the inferior-in-comparison MLE and MLU. And that's when some people start dropping the series. The Anime, is a whole lot more complicated (Its another layer on top). MLA is too complex (and as a result, too expensive), so they had to kickstart with a series that can be done on a budget, which is MLA:TE. If MLA:TE is a success, they would gain enough funding for MLA. So in Anime terms, MLA: TE is the equal of MLE & MLU of the VNs. You have to get through an inferior stage to get to the superior one. (Except its for enjoyment in the VNs, and for funding in the Anime). But MLA:TE, being a side story, doesn't cover the description of the universe of MLA well enough. Cue Episodes 1 & 2. To describe MLA universe, one has to shown what basically the MLA Anime will be like. That unforunately, creates a false perception of the MLA:TE series as though it would be like "MLA"* to those who have no idea of the ML franchise. So people join in, see episode 2, expect more, and become disappointed and leave. It also creates the reverse effect. Those who will enjoy episode 3 onwards will get turned off by episodes 1 & 2 and not join the anime. What happens? Both sides fall, and MLA:TE barely gets any support because it alienates watchers from all sides. The only people who will stay will be those who already know the MLA Universe and MLA:TE LN is not like MLA. Which won't be enough to support for a MLA Anime. *When I refer to "MLA" here, I mean people getting the impression that we'll get more episodes 2, which will only be true if MLA was animated. it doesn't require the knowledge of the ML franchise, I was just using a convenient term to sum "Episode 2". |
fullmetal_adam said: I should probably preface this with the fact I had never even heard of the Muv-Luv franchise before this anime...So, all I meant is episode 2 built up my hopes, and gave a misleading impression of the show. I would give Dawn of the Dead (2004) as an example. Within a few minutes of the start, s**t hit the fan and zombies were everywhere until the end of the movie. MLA started in a similar fashion as far as pacing is concerned, but hasn't followed through with it. I thought it would have a lot of action and violence, but it reverted to young adult drama with mechs and looks to continue down this road for some time. The anime isn't bad for what it is, it's just that I expected something different to what I'm getting after that amazing second episode. Yeah, that's understandable. Episodes 1/2 are like from a completely different anime from episodes 3+. It's been the biggest reason I could think of as to why so many people were bashing on MLA, since they didn't get what they expected after watching the first 2 episodes. wakka9ca said: Welcome to MAL. Enjoy your long (or short) stay. People like to "hate" the anime they watch. According to certain users, watching anime is suffering. In other words, all anime is shit and they have to express their utter disgust of it every single episode. Thanks! Good to be here...but after joining MAL...I've seen the dark side of anime lovers.........anyway thanks :D |
| Yui's personality is changing so much in this episode... Dere > Tsun > Dere > Tsun > Dere..... Anyway better than last episode.... 3/5 |
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| I thought this would be a pointless fan service episode but it got serious really fast, I love story development so this episode was great for me. I'm looking forward to more, I'm really loving this show so far. |
I almost never read discussions after I made my post, if you want to reply PM me or post on my profile page. |
bmadfsh said: If anyone is wondering why I'm being so defensive about this anime it's probably because after taking a look at the Summer 2012 anime list, I found that MLA and SAO were the only animes I'd be taking an interest in (seeing as the rest were all just slice of life, ecchi, harem, or sequels of anime I don't plan to watch yet), and I found it irritating how everyone was being so critical to MLA when the rest of the Summer 2012 anime don't seem like anything better. That seems to happen quite often in seasons and i find it frustrating too. For example if you look this anime actually has lower score than most of the more silly not very well made ecchi harems this season. I would understand if this was some anime site full of Japanese otakus that like licking their screens but i hoped a little better from a site with western fans. But it seems many are just Japanophile teenagers that start reading manga pages and novels of whatever new show and are putting themselves into that otaku mentality. Hey maybe after this episode and the moe moments(yeah moe and blushing is what raises scores, fanservice isn't exactly it) the score will go higher. As i see it, usually in forum talking when a show is not in those categories you talked about gets scrutinized more because more critical people actually watch it and care to say something. Many of these people simply drop other silly shows or just accept they are silly without much to talk about so those shows end up with mostly their exclusive fans and with a forum talk of happy moments while a show that actually is not just another silly harem or whatever gets butchered for it's ability to keep critical watchers onboard. Good enough to keep them onboard unlike other silly shows but at the same time it has to take their criticizing since the actual fact that it's not just another of the typical bunch raises expectations. For example like you after watching the first episodes i am more eager to watch this show every week exactly because it looked not to be like the majority of other stuff and have some more intriguing elements that make me look forward to it. But if those potential promises end up at nothing at the end my posts will probably be more critical compare to others no matter if i still score it better than them or not because i actually expected a little something and i will get pissed of if it hardly turns out to be better than those other shows that i already had minimum expectations from. For now am happy with it but this character building relaxing fanservice attitude better not go until before the last two episodes because am gonna get pissed. After 4-5 episodes it better start delivering some tension and plot moving events. I expect that won't happen next episode but hopefully from the 8th episode will start giving us some first episodes intensity or else it might as well join the other harem-slice of life bunch. I enjoyed the service in this one but i won't be happy if that's the best i will get after the initial promises. bmadfsh said: Yeah, that's understandable. Episodes 1/2 are like from a completely different anime from episodes 3+. It's been the biggest reason I could think of as to why so many people were bashing on MLA, since they didn't get what they expected after watching the first 2 episodes. so fresh watchers like me found the first episodes awesome while those that knew it got disappointed from them. It seems to me that they simply got disappointed because they didn't watch what they thought they will despite the fact that it was better. Those first episodes where awesome and better than what we watch now that is more inline with typical cliche anime stuff. But when you want to watch something and you get something else you usually can't appreciate it no matter how good the thing you are getting is. Personally i just want to see more of that tension. I'm experienced enough to realize even when i was watching those first episodes that it wouldn't be going all the time with such tension and that i will get a bunch of slower episodes like what we are getting now but i will be disappointed if it stays like it is now until the end. |
MonadAug 7, 2012 5:22 AM
| Nice desu ne. This was quite an enjoyable episode. |
| Dere Yui = do want. Looks like they will be on that island next episode too, since the boat is gone. The atmosphere might get even more tense, but I bet the three of them will have a better relationship when they get out of there. I wonder what Cryska's interest in Yuuya is. |
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| next episode predictions: yuuya walks in on yui naked... |
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| lucky yuuya |
| WOW! Hot girls everywhere... |
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| Also what annoyed me was how hard apparently it is to hop/walk on one leg when one of your ankles is twisted. All she had to do is put one arm round his shoulder and not use one leg. I thought she was meant to be some kind of military elite yet she's floundering worse than some random old woman who twisted their ankle wearing high heels they shouldn't have been :/ Kinda miss Meiya and Takeru :P |
transcendent12 said: Also what annoyed me was how hard apparently it is to hop/walk on one leg when one of your ankles is twisted. All she had to do is put one arm round his shoulder and not use one leg. I think you missed something there. He was the one that wanted to carry her and that because by hopping on one leg while using him as a crutch will be slow as fuck. It was raining and he left a sick woman alone in a cave, hopping their way for her pride to stay intact was stupid, it was a lot faster if he just lifted her up and carried her. Btw next episode they discover that they are not alone in the island and that there are "others". ^_^ |
| That rope looked strong enough to keep that boat there as a matter of fact is should be strong enough to keep a steel boat four times as that rubber boat there. Also the rope was broken near the tree which would also be strange in other words that rope was bitten by some animal or it was cut by a person. Meaning there could be more people on the island. Seems Yui is haunted by her past judging from that nightmare, it's no wonder she has some form of trauma left from that time tho. It also explains part of her personality. She was also feeling guilty about that pilots that she attacked when trying to force Yuuya to learn how to control his unit and she also opened up allot to Yuuya maybe even to much. She also blushed a few times at his actions. |
| Too much fucking fanservice. At least Yui and Yuuya were much more tolerable then usual. Not a terrible episode I guess. Oh, and I prefer Yui's old hairstyle. Just got reminded of that in the dream/flashback. Nice cliffhanger. |
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| Of course he coincidentally gets stuck with the 2 girls that don't like him so he can get closer. Yui was a bitch as always despite him going out of his way to protect both of them. Yeah dude is racking up the harem though, now they'll both want to bang. The boat shouldn't matter much though with the other dude going for help and them having air support near by. I guess those 2 can discuss who gets first shot at him until he gets back. Yeah .... besides that all the girls looked a bit too hot this time. Bitchy Yui, and both Russians. Oh and he got a real nice view of Blondie. Even shorty wasn't too bad. He's getting a nice harem going. |
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Araragi93 said: BETAs are destroying the world but don't worry, our soliders are playing volleyball. Tarisa looks cute on that swimsuit and I lol'd seeing the hammer and sickle badge on Russian ones. But why aren't their swimsuits red? Enquiring minds want to know. My first thought after seeing the hammer and sickle. Re: the playing volleyball… They're in development mode. I think even soldiers play volleyball. I think it's reasonable, especially since they are basing it on a PR stunt. I am starting to like this show. While previous episodes had a lot of action and tension (which this show does well), the characters were all one-dimensional. This was the first episode to start rounding some of the characters out. I had to score this episode a 5 instead of a 4, after Bridges' lecture to Takamura, in which he told her: first, I'll explain later, and second, that if she actually wanted what she said she wanted, she should co-operate. And then surprisingly, she accepted that. And it surprised him too. That was pretty good for an anime MC. There were a number of other nice touches in this episode as well: Manandal skipping out at the first opportunity, how Takamura acts when out of her environment, how Cryska acts regardless of hers, Bremer's good-natured hotness, how they cleared out all the other characters in a reasonable way to leave the focus on the three, how they had an appropriate sense of urgency but didn't collapse in a heap because someone might catch a cold. Hopefully, the show is about to shift into a higher gear and keep the pace up. |
Monad said: Btw next episode Dude, you couldn't put that in spoilers? |
| I just got a hold of the preview in my BLOG: http://ecchiking99.blogspot.ca/2012/08/muv-luv-alternative-total-eclipse_8.html Got to say that the swimsuit feast continues but there will be also some in tube semi nudes. Well from the looks of the pic. Seems fan service upping with a deep plot of the Russians side. |
| Fanservice? Wait, I thought this show was about nationalist propaganda. /sarcasm |
Blitzschnell said: Now I understand why this episode feels so disjointed. They did indeed skip something. So we actually skipped though a battle between Yuuya & the Scarlet Twins after all. What a pity. I can't believe they skipped something as big as that... Explain Cryska's sudden interest in Yuuya. Just wondering, who won the fight? |
| lol anime cliches everywhere. Have some differences you need to resolve? Get stranded on an island during a storm. |
Yuuya, Yui, and Crsyka better survive in the end. They need to make awesome Eishi childrens! XD |
| After dropping this , I came back after looking for mecha series then I remembered this but I had to pick it up on the typical anime beach episode All the girls have a body even the smaller girls that in most anime are flat and wear school swimsuits lol Inia has a rack on her Yea a sprained ankle will do that to ya GreatRumbler said: Absolutely dreadful episode all around. I really liked the first two episodes, and even some of the episodes since, but it's clear that we're veering off into boring cliches and frustrating, nonsensical character development. Exactly what made me drop this anime before the for two episodes were epic then it turned to sh!t thanks to yuuya showing up lol |
Amon-RawDec 2, 2012 10:55 PM
| man, the ending song is good. goes well at the end of this episode. |
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